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Mooi
post Aug 10 2011, 12:33 PM

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Sorry guys.. being in a niche market is supposedly good or bad?

The pro and con I can only think of now -
Pro: focus on the specific knowledge and master better??
Con: harder to find jobs???

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post Aug 10 2011, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Mooi @ Aug 10 2011, 12:33 PM)
Sorry guys.. being in a niche market is supposedly good or bad?

The pro and con I can only think of now -
Pro: focus on the specific knowledge and master better??
Con: harder to find jobs???
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I believe there are cons more than pros. When the boss knows that you got no other company can work for, they might take advantage on you. For example, give you minimum increment or even none at all. I witnessed this before.
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post Aug 10 2011, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(josephlau7966 @ Aug 10 2011, 01:01 PM)
I believe there are cons more than pros. When the boss knows that you got no other company can work for, they might take advantage on you. For example, give you minimum increment or even none at all. I witnessed this before.
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Hmmm I see..
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post Aug 10 2011, 02:07 PM

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not necessarily..doesn't mean u work in niche industry you can't find other industry job...i seen many ppl change industry and i believe decision making & leadership is more important than technical skill!

anyway there always two perspective..and it depends on the individual..
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post Aug 11 2011, 05:18 PM

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beside job i think the company future prospect and the relationship among the colleague is quite important ! For me i m working in the M&E trading company although it doesn't stress as those contractor but the job isn't that easy
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post Aug 11 2011, 07:54 PM

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Ok, u wanna noe wat I think bout engineering, I'll explain.

Construction, be it developer, consultants or contractor, if u r not da boss, u'll Neva be comfortable with da pay. Contractor, u'll think of all those unscrupulous ways to save money. Developer will think of all ways to squeeze da contractors. Consultant, well u r in da middle. Consultancy is onli good when u work in overseas where u get respected da way they respect doctors, lawyers.

Manufacturing, starting pay is good, but after dat growth is slow.

Oil and gas, once in a while need to go offshore and smell petroleum lo.

Other fields are shipping, engineers can too enter da finance line actually.

Construction is so saturated mainly because of the klcc boom which tempted everyone to enter this industry. After da 97 recession, most ppl r kinda stuck in da field till now.
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post Aug 11 2011, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Mooi @ Aug 10 2011, 01:33 PM)
Sorry guys.. being in a niche market is supposedly good or bad?

The pro and con I can only think of now -
Pro: focus on the specific knowledge and master better??
Con: harder to find jobs???
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IF you are damn good, then you will never loose jobs, I have a friend who is doing great in a niche market. on saving energy in Chiller system.. think about it....
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post Aug 12 2011, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Aug 11 2011, 08:29 PM)
IF you are damn good, then you will never loose jobs, I have a friend who is doing great in a niche market. on saving energy in Chiller system.. think about it....
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Yeah, i think the same bro...I am going to change my job soon, from project engineer (contractor for TNB, mainly in automation), to field service engineer (doing filtration and purification) doing filter for water, gas etc2. Even in niche market, the basic of engineering still apply. I ve asked my soon to be boss about the job, and he said that what i know now (mainly control & automation) is just a piece of their whole system that comprise of instruments, and also mechanical. Even if you want to jump to new job, the knowledge that you learn in the current company, even the market is small,still applies to other engineering field. I think its no harm in entering a job with niche market, as long as u want to learn.

By the way, being PE has given me a lot of knowledge in project handling and boast up my CV a lot..haha...i've been to 2 interview lately, and got both of the job. Had to reject 1, as the other offers much more competitive package, and last month also theres this 2 company calling me for an interview, and i had to decline as i have accepted another job. Btw, so far i had jump to 3 main diffrent industry, telco,aviation, and power..and its all related to other..

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post Aug 12 2011, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(josephlau7966 @ Aug 10 2011, 10:34 AM)
yeah. This field is sucks. It pays the least among all the engineering fields. sad.gif I has been a few years in this field. I am now wondering can I change to other field. cry.gif


Added on August 10, 2011, 11:30 am

Manufacturing Factory - The job scope is usually very specific yet routine. Mechanical people are usually assigned to handle the production line or maintenance of machine and facilities. Most of the factory is in niche market. Sometimes, you may find hard to find similar job in same field. This kind of work requires least traveling, thus might be boring. Normally, MNC in electronic field will have better prospect compare to other factories.

To anyone, please correct me if i am wrong. Thank you.
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the starting pay is high for manufacturing especially semi-con. but if every 10-year the econ downturn cycle comes, then the salary will be cut or VSS. very difficult to secure job when econ downturn. unless one is very specialize and high demand his/her skills (R&D an example, mostly the last dept to ask to leave).

u still can change from construction. i am an example after 3 years plus sinking myself into it. tongue.gif
the construction experience & knowledge is very useful when switch to certain fields. rclxms.gif


Added on August 12, 2011, 8:28 am
QUOTE(Mooi @ Aug 9 2011, 10:36 PM)
What about girls? I am female, doing mechanical engineering degree.

Other than construction (I do have an interest in it unfortunately), O&G, shipping, palm oil plantation, manufacturing factories, automobile.. what other fields or options do I have?

Please roughly give me the idea then i will do researches on it on my own.
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for ladies can try QA/QC job & become internal auditor and progressively into lead auditor in ISO.


Added on August 12, 2011, 8:33 am
QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 13 2011, 06:34 PM)
1) main con M&E company contract based (no technical background go work for main can u'll get ur ass kicked)
2) sub contractor M&E company (u'll hav better training but being a subcon its a tough life if u can endure it it'll b good)
1) FIREFIGHTING COMPANY (selling fire fighting equipment? or a contractor?)
2) air cond company (sales?design?r&D? contractor?manufacturer? wat department u joing? or u joing the cleaners to help air con company sweep floor?)
3)lorry tanker fabrication factory such as the esso & shell lorry tanker(imho too specialized next time susah cari makan)
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main-con if one is their bond graduate and work for them no issues most of the time. they will provide you a mentor and give certain period of time for you to learn and rotate based in their site project locations. be humble & nice to sub-con/vendors so can learn from them too to create win-win situation for both parties.

tanker fabrication better learn their welding & inspection tech spec & work scope. there is a possibility to explore into welding & inspection in fabrication line.



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post Aug 12 2011, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(ch_teo @ Aug 12 2011, 08:26 AM)
for ladies can try QA/QC job & become internal auditor and progressively into lead auditor in ISO.
Auditor? The first thing that comes to my mind is accountancy. Is that possible?

Anyway, thanks for the heads up! I will do homework - looking up infos etc on it smile.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Mooi @ Aug 12 2011, 12:41 PM)
Auditor? The first thing that comes to my mind is accountancy. Is that possible?

Anyway, thanks for the heads up! I will do homework - looking up infos etc on it  smile.gif
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start from ISO 9001 as internal quality auditor (IQA) the most basic ISO system for manufacturing company. they may be certified or may not. but most MNCs will have this certification.

this technical engineering auditing is not related to finance. got clause 1 to 8. most of the time just audit or being audited clause 4-8 of a manufacturing flow process. lot of ladies involve in ISO auditing line, QA/QC. can try also Six Sigma.
CQE (certified quality engineer) is not as high demand as IRCA.

if possible, you may also sideline to NDT & welding.

you may also sideline to HSE (health, safety & environment)/ DOSH.

most of the ladies will just Q only as what i understand at oil & gas industry/manufacturing.

best combination is QHSE.
combination of ISO 9001 + ISO 14000/OHSAS 18000 as lead assessor (IRCA), then one's value is very high demand.

there is also API auditor/3rd party inspector.

hope the above helps. start from the most basic ISO 9001: 2008, current revision. or start as QA/QC role function.
there are certain links embedded at the above certain nomenclature. smile.gif

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post Aug 12 2011, 01:29 PM

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ch_teo, you have just made my life easier. *gives you a big wet e-kiss*

If there's anything I don't understand, I will further ask about it.

At the mean time, thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!! smile.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 01:29 PM

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I find Q&A boring..lots of documentation..
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post Aug 12 2011, 01:36 PM

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To me, its worth to give it a thought anyway. smile.gif

Wanting to figure out what I want then plan ahead before I graduate.

One the side note: I am good at report writing etc (maybe that will be a plus point hmm)

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post Aug 12 2011, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Mooi @ Aug 12 2011, 01:36 PM)
To me, its worth to give it a thought anyway. smile.gif   

Wanting to figure out what I want then plan ahead before I graduate.

One the side note: I am good at report writing etc (maybe that will be a plus point hmm)
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then u can try QA lor....

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