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klthor
post Feb 29 2012, 05:37 PM

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You need to apply ur own tax file number most of the time, edaftar is easy and efiling is easy as well. just go to their website http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=2...1&unit=4&sequ=1

Regarding the PCB, YA 2011 you dont have to pay any tax therefore they did not deduct your PCB. If i were you, I would not go and apply tax file number for YA 2011, instead i will apply for YA 2012. Because it takes time for them to open a tax file for you, if delay = penalty haha. so better start on 2012 ba wink.gif by the way, you get your feb salary edi?

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post Feb 29 2012, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Feb 29 2012, 06:15 PM)
Hello All,

I am new to this thread, just wonder how i claim or submit my income tax for business company (Sdn. Bhd) ?
By doing myself can save cost by pay an accountant fees right ?

Any suggestion or link for steps / which document needed to keep is pretty much appreciated.

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Sdn. Bhd. is kinda messy with cp204, form c, form r,. i suggest u get a tax agent and pay them RM800 per year to solve this -.- because the penaltyimposed might be higher than the tax agent fee. late submission of cp204 will cost u ranging from RM200 to Rm2000. diff with actual and tax estimate will be a 10% on the diff. late submission of form c and r will be a 20% of ur tax payable... really not recommend you to do it yourself unless you are very good at the date;)

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post Feb 29 2012, 07:10 PM

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damn true -.- sdn. bhd. is no joke, dun even dare to think about how complicated a bhd can be biggrin.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(saiga @ Mar 1 2012, 10:01 AM)
Hi guys.

First time tax payer here. How do I calculate rebate for Housing Loan Interest?

My case ;

House purchased in 2010
Price : RM 304300
Current monthly installment : RM 1441
Profit rate : 4.5%

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look at your statement, normally there will be 2 amount. Principal + interest = RM 1,441. add up all the interest , thats the interest you can claim in relief (MAX RM10k).


Added on March 1, 2012, 10:49 am
QUOTE(MYstombox @ Mar 1 2012, 10:20 AM)
Feb salary, yes got already.
Also got PCB deduction, no problems with this.

When you mean apply for YA 2012 tax file, means when do I actually go and apply for it?

My company said at the end of this year, they will print out some form (didn't catch what the HR said) and will apply for tax file for me.

Also, the prepaid tax deduction from my company does not follow the schedule 2010 on hasil's website. My company is using computer generated payslip, and I got deducted about RM6 more.


Added on March 1, 2012, 10:26 am

Thank you! I will keep tracking, but my payslip the finance officer only print once every few months.

Feb pay already got, but payslip not yet receive.
I only received my Dec '11 and Jan '12 payslip in mid Feb. :S
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EA form is the name, its your annual income from the company and an evident to show LHDN, so thats your income smile.gif if the Company apply for you then its good, just make sure to ask them to apply for 2012! meaning your 1st income will be on jan 2012 tongue.gif, so that you can skip 2011 tax return!! O.O
i feel evil haha

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post Mar 1 2012, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Mar 1 2012, 11:06 AM)
I don't think can skip the Dec 2011 income, anyway for me it doesn't matter.
Because after deduct off the FY2011 personal relief, I don't have to pay for anything for FY2011.

I do prefer to just do everything proper, so that hasil doesn't come after me and even if they do I have proof that I did everything correctly.

on a side note, the question about whether we purchase 2 or more computers, can we claim a total of RM3000 relief or is it just 1 computer?

Also, I went through hasil's website, but it doesn't state much about combined/spouse tax filing and their allowances/relief.

I can only find the rebate @ RM400 per person.

Next question assuming this scenario:

This year wife not working but there are shares under her name. So tax vouchers are under her name.

Can we do joint assessment? Or would separate assessment be better?

If we do joint assessment for the year, in future if she starts working, can she then do individual assessment?
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if the wife has not work before then you can not elect for join assessment . but nowadays i dun think ppl will join assessment
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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Mar 1 2012, 11:37 AM)
Thank you on this.

What about computers?

Because this is a grey area, doesn't exactly state clearly on the website as well.
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according to public ruling 'a' personal computer for non- business use.
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post Mar 1 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Mar 1 2012, 02:15 PM)
If wife never work before? Like now housewife.
Can still do combined assessment? Or she cannot even be included?

Also, I had no other income in 2011 except for dec 2011.
No commissions nothing, so my PCB does not fluctuate, but no idea how they calculate as it is not as per the schedule 2010.
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IF your wife had not work before, you can not elect for joint assessment. She must have total income for previous years.

as for pcb, there are 2 method. computerised and schedule. in fact, computerised will be more accurate. u can get the calculator from LHDN website as well.


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post Mar 1 2012, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Mar 1 2012, 02:39 PM)
Also, when you mean total income over the years.
What if shares were bought in her name?
Dividend qualifies for income, so can that be used for joint assessment?

Ah okay, thanks.
Appreciate it.
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let put it this way, if your wife did not submit tax return before and has no income for this year. then u can not joint with her.

2 types of dividend, 1 = tax exempted and 2 = taxable. please refer to the dividend slip, if it is not tax exempted then they have already deduct the % from your dividend. you need to calculate and see if you can refund for the tax paid . go to LHDN website, is should have the calculation working paper. its kinda complicated for me to list how to do so, so better go dl the worknig paper and flw step by step. or else look for some tax agent to do it for you. and yes, if ur wife received div she has to file in tax return.
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post Mar 1 2012, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(xtjs @ Mar 1 2012, 07:28 PM)
is commision received by real estate agent taxable?
have to declare if the amount is small below rm5k?


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dividen received from as1m shares have to declare?
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yes... commission received is taxable as well
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post Mar 1 2012, 07:50 PM

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i wish i had my EA form so that i can submit my tax return as well smile.gif
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post Mar 2 2012, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Mar 2 2012, 12:50 AM)
I have a rental property. In 2011, the Developer issued strata title to individual purchasers. I incurred legal fees. Is this tax deductible against the rental income?
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no.... but it will add into your cost of purchase, meaning RPGT will lower when u sell ur property withoin 5 years.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 03:32 PM)
i think a lot don't read what i'm asking or don't get what i'm saying so i'll say it again - I have the annual statement with the breakdown on both life insurance and medical insurance. My initial question was: I have bought personal insurance AND MLTA housing insurance. Both have separate statements stating the amount of life insurance and medical insurance. Now - my question is simple - is it alright to add BOTH The medical insurance (for personal insurance PLUS housing MLTA insurance FOR MEDICAL)? My agent told me this should be fine, but I'm having doubts which is why I asked.
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as long as u can show them its ok. i dun think they limit HOW MANY insurance u can buy.. they just cap you at life insurance + EPF = 6k and midical insurance = 3k
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post Mar 2 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 04:18 PM)
understood. I'm asking to see if anyone knew to save my time talking to LHDN. Will do. Thanks.
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it will be better to email them, call them = pass around si beh mafan.
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post Mar 5 2012, 10:36 AM

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you may open it via e-daftar... but rumors said IRB going to come up with new system which will exempt tax return for those who do not need to pay for tax to reduce their paper work and focus resources on tax audit. for now, you have to file tax return once you commence work . for back log, nah.... just state you start work now la, dun let them penalty u.
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QUOTE(maldiniho @ Feb 19 2013, 01:02 PM)
hi guys, i have a question :

if I am a sole prop and I hired a staff, for his EA form what I should fill in the "No. Majikan"  (i think it starts with E) field in my staff's EA form?

FYI, my own tax no is OG xxxxxxxx. Do I have to request for another "majikan no" just for staff tax matters?

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mate you have to prepare Borange E as well, the Borang E number = nombor majikan.
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post Feb 25 2013, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(nothingz @ Feb 24 2013, 05:30 PM)
not all employers will have the E file Number (Nombor Majikan), some companies/proprietorships/partnerships registered more than 5 years ago did not come with E file number unless they applied for it specifically for submission of PCB.

therefore, if you submit Form E, then you will have an E file number, if you don't submit, you leave it blank at the EA Form
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well i do agree not all Employer has E number back then, but now its auto generate for Sdn Bhd. the proper way = every company/partnership/prietorship has to submit Borang E as long as you have emplyees, if you have employee who meet their requirement to pay tax etc its a must for you to submit Borang E. so far i did not see any penalty impose to those did not apply for it. but since its the proper way why not do it that way rather than taking risk of penalty from from irb? besides its just few pieces of form you have to fill it thats all.
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QUOTE(maldiniho @ Feb 25 2013, 12:38 PM)
Thanks for advice. Would the IRB cause troubles to me (or my staff) if I leave it blank?
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so far i didnt see any trouble from it.
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post Feb 25 2013, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(nothingz @ Feb 25 2013, 07:32 PM)
there will not be any problem if your business really does not have an E File Number, so to your staff
the purpose of having Form E is to monitor those earning more than RM30k per annum and whether do they declare taxes.  if your business does not have anyone earning more than 30k/the business is dormant then it is meaningless to file in although it works as a declaration.  therefore no point requesting for an E File Number if you are not meeting the criterias
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dormant is not required but for those which are active and have employees is not really meaningless, you can see the direction of IRB where they prefer every employer to apply for Borang E since they auto generates E number for Sdn Bhd. i assume you are familiar with tax issues, as an example will be the changes on CP204 submission. its always to be safe than sorry, we never know when IRB will penalty those employer without E number even they do not have employee salary >30k Pa or 2.5k per month.
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QUOTE(nothingz @ Feb 25 2013, 09:04 PM)
most of the peoples hope that they will not receive the CP500, so that they don't need to pay in advance. not much peoples will like to pay in advance voluntarily. hahahaha

you can call to ask about it tomorrow
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true haha, but i do meet some1 who prefer to pay CP500 because their tax payable is like 500k + - where they found it sakit hati when paying in shot -.-
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QUOTE(nothingz @ Feb 25 2013, 10:33 PM)
If IRB wants to make it compulsory for all employers, they should issue the Form E to them and not wait till they come and apply since their system should have all the info
the income tax act is drafted in the way that you are 'guilty unless proven innocent', because you have to pay tax in advance, CP500 & CP204 before you file in your final tax. in 1 way it reduces your burden by not having to pay 1 lump sum which the amount may be substantial but on the other hand, you don't earn interest by depositing to IRB.

1 more thing is, you better don't underestimate because you will be penalised if the difference between estimation and actual is more than 30%.  as if all the business profits can be estimated reliably...

for a well manage business, i feel that the 'paying tax in advance' practice is unfair to the taxpayer
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FYI IRB are doing it for Sdn Bhd, whenever you apply for C number they generates E number for you now. so what im telling here is to be safe than sorry. best way to protect yourself is to take care of yourself from potential harm.

for pay in advance practice, i do agree with you its not fair for taxpayers.

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