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post Jun 3 2011, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Jun 3 2011, 12:02 AM)
Is there such a thing for income tax to suddenly deduct a lot from your salary?
I've called my HQ they say is new income tax rule, so in months to come not going to deduct much..

She say is because i just got increment in my salary that's why income tax deduct one shot..
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Yes, for PCB, the deduction % is calculated monthly (not avg salary per month). So, if for this month you receive several months of back-dated increment, or big bonus, the deduction will be a lot compared to normal. It can even be 1-1.5x more from your normal deduction.

Just wait until next year (2012), do the assessment for 2011, and you can claim back overpaid tax.

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post Jun 3 2011, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Jun 3 2011, 12:46 PM)
ThNks for the reply..I still have not get back my rebate for year 2010.. Normally how long does it take for them to process..
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Depends. I submited end-Apr and not yet receive also.

There is one time (within these few years), I received rebate in Aug only.

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post Jun 8 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 7 2011, 10:15 PM)
wat if they ask us to bring receipts and we don have?
how to be confident? it is like cari pasal or maut
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QUOTE(swatz @ Jun 7 2011, 11:18 PM)
doh.gif memang cari pasal if you did not keep the receipt properly.

What advise you want from the forumer?
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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 8 2011, 08:33 AM)
wat happen if cant provide receipt?
that all i like to know
and what i can do
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LOL If don't have the receipt or lost it, i.e. no proof, why do you put into tax deduction ? laugh.gif

Like that memang cari pasal lah biggrin.gif

Hope they not audit you. I was audited once, they ask me meet at interview room (Jln Duta branch). She brought my file with all my actual submissions for the past years, and check about 2-3 years latest submission, receipts, etc. Not really 100% scrutinize but still browse through all. Since I keep all in proper (at least 7 years), there is nothing they can do, and interview done after 20 minutes.

What you can do now is, try borrow receipts from friends, e.g. for book receipts no name printed (Popular/MPH/Kinokuniya/Borders/etc.)
If computer, then try ask vendor to print for you (must be your name).

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post Jun 14 2011, 11:06 AM

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Submitted online at last week of April.
Received snail mail yesterday. 2k+ refund icon_idea.gif

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Check and already in account. rclxms.gif
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post Jun 21 2011, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(500Kmission @ Jun 21 2011, 12:20 AM)
LHDN current bank is CIMB. If you write in FORM BE is CIMB bank for refund, they of course will direct credit to your account which is safer than post.
If you are not CIMB account holder, LHDN want to use post cheque, because the direct credit to diff bank account often encounter unsuccessful process.
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I put my MBB account number into LHDN form. They banked into my account directly. Perhaps there are others who get banked in direct also ? hmm.gif

QUOTE(howszat @ Jun 21 2011, 12:36 AM)
Have a look at post #28, which included a letter from LHDN which mentions Maybank.

That makes your post about "not a CIMB account holder" inaccurate.
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Sharp eye man! smile.gif

QUOTE(500Kmission @ Jun 21 2011, 01:03 AM)
The statement is made by one of officer in LHDN. Maybe he was lucky and get the money. Actually, it happen on other company (CHGS) as well. The company want to direct credit the annual interest to me, it is not successful, but my friend has received the money. After there are so many unsuccessful result, the company decide send cheque to every investor.
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Heh heh, my CHGS also direct bank-in to my MBB account smile.gif

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post Jun 22 2011, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(bill11 @ Jun 22 2011, 03:26 PM)
I got a letter from LHDN regarding rebate for the 'faedah pinjaman perumahan' , so i need to send them the copy of the SNP (those important page only ?) to where ?

should it be ok post it as per the letter head address, need to attn to anyone ?

thx.
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IINM, you need to submit all the 12 months bank statement details (Jan-Dec 2010) which specifically states on the interest charged also.
e.g. rm500 interest per month x 12 = rm6k
If you put relief of 10k ... kantoi laugh.gif

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post Jun 29 2011, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(aiskrimcup @ Jun 29 2011, 11:23 AM)
i also the same, they ask for the S&P, not the statement. i am getting confused, so i did nothing. lantak la, duit orang mahu, rebate balik macam-macam hal!
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QUOTE(leongal @ Jun 29 2011, 02:01 PM)
i was audited for the housing loan interest, they asked for s&p and bank statement; then forwarded them those documents; two weeks later, they responded tat my calculation was correct; a week later, i got back my rebate!

just send them the documents tat they request...
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Well, if the submission is correct, there is nothing to hide, and you'll get your dues back.
If faking it, then continue with the tidak apa attitude, and then continue blaming everyone else.
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post Jul 15 2011, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(wos @ Jul 14 2011, 06:33 PM)
Mine very fast...get back after 3 weeks...but the refund only like 60% of what I should get back.

After few calls with them...

You know what? LHDN claim that I did't paid the full PCB and because of that I get my partial refund to cover the missing PCB.

really wtf... vmad.gif

Now still waiting them to investigate.

I really don't know how come this happen? I already provide all the receipt to them...but still need so long to check.  (1 months plus)

Really kudos to them!  notworthy.gif  rclxub.gif
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If your wording is correct, it means your employer did not pay the full PCB. You may receive salary slip with the amount deducted, but actually your company did not pay the amount to LHDN.

PCB = Potongan Cukai Berjadual, i.e. monthly deduction from salary.

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post Jul 19 2011, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(ezonemy @ Jul 19 2011, 09:45 AM)
i have an issue with 2010 tax return, waited for 3 month and called them up. thye say there is some issue with my bonus for 2010 then they say i neva submit for year 2007 & 2008. i was new to work tat time even dont know wat is PCB. moreover the pcb deducted was less than 100 for 2007 & 2008. for 2009 was the first year i did my e filling and got my return via check now for 2010 saying got problem. somemore in 2009 i have declared my parents medical cost and newly bought pc now they ask me if i have the receipt for it of coz i dont have it. what shud i do? shud i go and declare my tax for 2007 & 2008 or just wait for them. really confused.
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Dude and the rest of readers,

(1) Ignorance is not bliss. A lot of friends, family, relatives, b/f, g/f, neighbour, LYN trollers, enemies, dog/cat, devil, etc. tell you when your salary is below 30k/year or 2k per year or 2.5k per year or whatever cr@p, you DO NOT need to declare income tax, since your are NOT taxable. -> This is not true. As long as you have income, even RM500 per month, you ought to declare it for proper filing purpose. The end result is, it is not taxable only. If it is taxable, then it is your responsibility to pay it.

(2) Keep all the receipts for 7 years. It is your responsibility to keep it properly, in case of audit. If you lost it, then you have to request the receipts again from relevant sources, like insurance, etc. Otherwise, you will need to take it out from your deductions if you get audit.
If you do not have the receipt, DO NOT put it into submission.
If the amount does not reach maximum allowed, e.g. Book @RM1k, just put the exact amount you got as per receipt, e.g. RM150.
DO NOT CHEAT, as if you get audited, like the case above, kantoi !!!

You can evade all other things in life, except Death and Tax.

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post Jul 20 2011, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(wos @ Jul 20 2011, 09:19 AM)
Just a update.

After 2 months, finally I fedup with the LHDN customer services tai chi here tai chi there, I direct talk to one of the LHDN director, and got the response within 3 hours.  flex.gif
cute_boboi, you are right..but my company did pay the PCB however the figure not correct. This incident happen because the figure at form (typo error) is different with the cheque, therefore that particular month payment is freeze  shakehead.gif
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Glad to hear it is sorted out.

There are some incident where company:
- put in your payslip PCB deducted
- issue FAKE payment receipt to LHDN and put in their files.
- LHDN says no such payment received.
- Company show you fake payment receipt.
This is where you need to ask the LHDN to call up and check (audit) your company payment and get it all sorted out.

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post Jul 20 2011, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(wos @ Jul 20 2011, 03:21 PM)
I saw the official receipt from HR, I believe there is real. Basically this is what happen.

There is hand write error on submit form, it written Rm 10,010 but the cheque is written in Rm10,000 which is the correct figure.

According to the HR, back to last year, correction is already made. But I guess LHDN did not receive the correction?
And cause the payment freeze.  rclxub.gif until now...

Now the accountant is working on it. But I don't get it, why no warning letter from LHDN?  shocking.gif
Here is the reply from LHDN
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(1) Obviously your company accountant is not working properly. For such an obvious 10k cheque issued but not deducted from account, he/she should check all the books again.

(2) How can the accountant close the year-end books ???

(3) If new cheque is cleared, and not into your tax account, again, obviously accountant issue wrong cheque. The cheque cannot be cleared if it is issued to the wrong tax accounts.

(4) LHDN fault for wrongly entering into system.

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post Jul 25 2011, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(kiminaro @ Jul 24 2011, 04:53 PM)
for right now i as his staff not sub con..
and he said those voucher for those foreign worker (indon) when he got big project before this..
and in that time he not asking them to sign because he think no need. and now he said irb want the voucher to prove it.

so to be clear dont sign at all? or i have to reduce the amount like 10k or 15k to be safe?

btw as i already in his staff so all the details about me in resume before already in hand..is there any chance to submit the sub con thing without my permission or my sign?..because he asked to one of clerk my full name and ic no and sending the details to his accountant and yet i havent sign anything so far...
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(1) Are you aware that you lose out 13% Employer EPF on your monthly 5k ?

(2) Assume you earn 60k/yr and save half of it (30k/yr). 3 years later, you have 90k and want to buy a house/car. Depending on your luck, you may get audited and you will have to explain where you get the 90k savings. You can bluff all the way, but it won't go far.

"For the few thousand/tens-of-thousand to pay to income tax, it is not worth it to evade." - advise from my CPA friend.

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post Aug 1 2011, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyloke @ Aug 1 2011, 01:25 PM)
Submitted my Borang BE on March 2011. Supposingly there should be few hundred refund I can get. However, I just got a letter last week, saying that "akaun tuan tidak menunjukkan apa-apa baki kredit yang boleh dibayar balik"..
Past few years I also able to get the refund, just that this yr I receive such a letter...
Shall I visit / call / email and request them to check for it?
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Sure, why not. As a tax payee, you have the rights to question and ask them to show you how they re-calculate your tax payment. They may not be able to do it over phone, you may try to lodge a case.

I would suggest to drop by the office where your file is located and get a queue number.

However, be prepared if it back-fires, i.e. you submitted wrong declaration or deductions, etc. and they turn the table saying you falsify without receipts/proof, and end up you have to pay fine (e.g. no books receipt, but still deduct 1k ... kantoi doh.gif ). But if you have nothing to hide and declared clearly, then you have nothing to be afraid.

QUOTE(Nidz @ Aug 1 2011, 02:10 PM)
i just started working on june. my salary is around rm3k. wut should i do with regards to income tax? do i need to deduct monthly?
pls advise. tq
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Ask HR/Finance if they practise PCB for your salary range or not.
Ask your HR/Finance to help prepare the form to create an income tax account number.
You may/may not need to personally goto LHDN counter to open the account, depending on your company.

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QUOTE(Nidz @ Aug 1 2011, 03:15 PM)
im not sure about the PCB, but they asked me to open an account first, which i did (e-filing).
so, do i have to do PCB or i just can submit my file manually every April?
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Yes, checked with your HR/Finance if the company is doing PCB for your salary range.

Whether they do PCB or not, you still need to declare next year (for 2011 income). It is your duty to declare it, once you get the EA form, latest by end-Jan 2012.

If got PCB, it will lessen the pain to pay for the tax, since you already pay in advance monthly (like pre-paid installment). In fact, you may get back money, if you overpay the PCB after calculating all the deductions.

If no PCB, and if need to pay tax, then it hurts the wallet to pay up few hundred RM for your salary range.

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post Aug 2 2011, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(sunnyloke @ Aug 2 2011, 09:18 AM)
I changed job on January and my ex-company HR don't know submitted what form to LHDN. End up I had been requested to submit the Borang BE directly to the Jln Duta branch. The officer did asked me to bring along all original receipts for her checking. Therefore, I am 100% confirmed I had declared all thing correctly.

Well, if they want to check back few yrs ago records.. then that a problem.. I need to dig for all the receipts...
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When I was audited once by LHDN, I brought along 3-5 years receipts, etc.
They did check my 3 years declaration and when everything in order, they let me go in 20 minutes.

If you do not bring the past-years receipts, I'm not sure if they'll let you go, or will they request another date/time to ask you to bring those ? hmm.gif

QUOTE(firee818 @ Aug 2 2011, 10:00 AM)
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In fact, I really don't like my employer to do PCB for me, because I don't need to worry about my tax credit. FYI, If u want to claim back tax credit, u need to bring in all sort of prove, receipt and sometime to might got into trouble if u mis-do u Borong B/BE!
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If the forms are submitted in order, and does not raise alarm, then the individual will get back the tax credit (if any) automatically without the need to prove, or goto LHDN counter, or email/tel.

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post Aug 2 2011, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(snigapoe @ Aug 2 2011, 05:44 PM)
if we pay extra of the income tax when can we expect refund from them?
i just call cs, it has been confirm that my income tax has been overpaid
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Definitely. Those are your money. Even my friend request back 20 cents, as it is his principle.

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post Aug 3 2011, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(snigapoe @ Aug 2 2011, 06:55 PM)
how long did your fren waited for the refund?
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Not sure. Couple of months. The point is, he wants his 20 cents back from LHDN, even after wasting more time, tel bill, etc. than that.

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post Aug 3 2011, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(snigapoe @ Aug 3 2011, 01:47 PM)
well mine is like few hundred due to miscalculation by them
hoping will be getting the refund soon

coz i got fren already waited for years but still nothing been credited back to him
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Generally, the waiting is between 3-6 months. Anything more than that, the individual must follow up with LHDN to get it sorted out. Silence does not amount to LHDN acceptance. LHDN may still dig out the individual previous years declaration (up to 7 years) for audit purpose.

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QUOTE(Nidz @ Aug 3 2011, 02:52 PM)
i see. so what if i dunt want my company to deduct PCB, can? Then i'll just file my tax forms myself next year. sweat.gif
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LHDN made it compulsory for company to make PCB, as there are a lot of people who do not submit their tax declaration.

Anyway, if LHDN really wants to audit you, they can easily recalculate backwards from your EPF contribution and/or BNM to check your banking/financials. Unless you do all in cash and keep it in pillow or under the bed. Remember the bungalow house that got affected by the land slide near Bukit Antarabangsa ? rm500k cash in house rolleyes.gif and no one audit them whistling.gif

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QUOTE(hockster @ Aug 4 2011, 12:22 AM)
Hello,

I need some help regarding on income tax issues. I would be glad if somebody can explain my situation.
I'm an offshore contract worker which hired by Switzerland company and my salary in USD which transaction by Tele-Transfer from Switzerland to Malaysia Bank.
I don't pay income tax in Switzerland. and I dont pay tax in Malaysia also but recently I've register an Income tax account in Malaysia.
My question is, is it taxable on my income situation? As far as I know, earning foreign currency is not taxable right? But the officer in LHDN told me that I need to show prove that I've pay tax in Switzerland, so that I dont have to pay it again in Malaysia. So this really worries me, if i need to start pay tax in Malaysia.

Please help me to sort out this issues... thank you in advance... cheers~
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Switzerland (personal) income tax rate 22.4-42.2%

I would guess you are sort of like a contract worker. Therefore, you may use the country where you reside when you are onshore. If you prefer to get taxed in Switzerland, then by all means declare there. Otherwise, declare back in Malaysia LHDN.

If you declare and pay in Switzerland, and you bring the money back into Malaysia (buy house, car, etc.) and get audited by LHDN, LHDN may require you to show proof of the tax you paid in Switzerland, otherwise LHDN will tax you again.
Double Taxation Agreeement

No matter where you work, even on the moon/ISS, your income is still taxable.


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