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post Jun 10 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:33 AM)
definitely. in fact d3100 could give a better image quality over d2x without doubt.
the only down side I could think of is the lacking of control.
You sure the D3100 gives better quality of the D2X? biggrin.gif Perhaps marginally as I've seen great photos from the D2X when you don't go over ISO 800.

If I was given between a D3100 and a D2X to choose, I would take the D2X pro body anytime. The handling ergonomics and the sure focusing AF system is enough to get you addicted to pro bodies. That's me lah.

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:33 AM)
I have a question here.
Knowing that Nikon gives a good noise control in all over their camera (even D3100 is consider good already, could go to  ISO3200) Why would one upgrade to FX if they need reach and forgetting about bokeh?
The thing is people are still using DX bodies if they need reach. Period. That is why I still keep my D300.

Wildlife photographers in general usually use DX bodies like D300/D300s for reach and for more pixel density if they want to crop but for pros that have all the required glasses to give them the required reach, they will reach for their D3/D3s/D700 especially when low light performance is required.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 10 2011, 10:39 AM)
- so do you mean i should get D3100 if i wan upgrade from D70s?  laugh.gif (lol i also wonder why most of the people will recommended D90 jump to D700 instead of D7000... because more pro body?? hmm.gif)
At the end of the day, it depends on what the person wants. If you want lightweight, the D7000 is nice.

If I were to choose between a DX body like the D7000 or a FX body like a D700, I would take the D700 because of these 4 things in their particular order;

1. Better subject isolation on the D700
2. Better focusing system on the D700
3. Overall better shadow noise even at lower ISOs on the D700
4. Better handling and feel on the D700 in my hands (I don't mind the heavy weight)

The only considerations that *might* sway me away from the D700 to the D7000 are as follows;

1. Higher MP on the D7000
2. 1080p video on the D7000
3. Lighter on the D7000

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:56 AM)
I believe d70s to d3100 is an upgrade in image quality but it is a down grade in camera control, you don't have focusing dedicated button, you don't have the front dial, top lcd, etc etc etc.
in term of image quality and iso handling I think d3100 and d90 is on par that's why I believe it is superior compared to d70s (oh ya.. I am no longer using d3100, so hopefully you didn't find it subjective)
If you're speaking purely from D70s to D3100, then your arguments are correct.

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:56 AM)
the only reason that I could think of for going FX is wide angle. =D
so, if you are wide angle shooter and having enough budget, by all mean go for FX.
FX wide angles lenses are EXPENSIVE. It is far cheaper to use DX bodies with DX wide angles to get wide angles. But quality wise, it seems that only FX lenses are the way to go.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 10 2011, 11:01 AM)
my opinoin go to FX because it is better image quality and more dynamic range and can lasts longer.  tongue.gif
It was correct when the D3/D3s and D700 were launced. But after the D7000 came out, those advantages of the FX system were not so obvious anymore. Not saying that the D7000 is better but the gap between DX and FX is much closer with FX still having the edge.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jun 10 2011, 11:26 AM)
after u use long time then u know already  smile.gif
Don't know man... I've not been using mine for too long I guess. wink.gif

2005 - D70 (sold in 2007)
2006 - D2Hs
2007 - D40x (sold in 2011)
2008 - D300
2009 - D700

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 03:39 PM)
Anyway I am a total noob, and I didn't own FX yet.
so I think it is better to return this question to one who has a lot of experience in photography. What do you think bro jchue73?
Errr, what do I think? unsure.gif

If you do lots of low light shooting and appreciate subject isolations, the FX is the body to get. Saying that dos not mean with DX you get nothing. With DX, you can still do low light and portraiture with the correct lenses and it's cheaper too. The newer DX bodies somehow brings the gap to FX closer.

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 03:39 PM)
that makes me feel guilty by having expensive camera (even mine, might not be expensive for your guys PoV). blush.gif
Don't be pressured or forced into thinking that owning a DSLR, you must take good pics. Money is yours and if you enjoy using a DSLR taking ordinary pics, so be it. You can ask opinions and weigh on it yourself what you need and don't need. At the end of the day, the money is yours and I feel that the main important thing is that you enjoy and get satisfaction from your hobby. Don't let other people decide how you should enjoy your hobby.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 10 2011, 03:46 PM)
70200 VR2 is weather sealed right? Mine had A LOT of dust inside before it went back to Nikon to repair due to faulty AF.
I think one needs to differentiate between weather sealed and water proof. In the industry I work with, you have what you call IP (ingress protection) rating for equipment enclosures. Have a look here;

http://www.aquatext.com/tables/ip_ratings.htm

So while the camera / lens can be rated to resist water droplets, dust can still enter.

QUOTE(hypermount @ Jun 10 2011, 05:03 PM)
Quick questions guys...will my old Nikon F65 lenses fit on new Nikon DLSRs? From what I read if got AF still can AF...if like that I'll stick to Nikon liao...thinking about D7000.
It's good to find out what old lenses you still have...

For a good knowledge on what works and what does not, have a look at the link below;

http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/slr-lens.html
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post Jun 13 2011, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 10 2011, 06:02 PM)
AFAIK, the 70200 weather seal includes dust.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0907/0907300370mm200mm.asp

I need to find for the official link when I'm back home... still in office sad.gif
Yes, I'm inclined to believe that they are dust sealed also. But that would be very difficult since you have external moving parts.

Did you find the official link?

QUOTE(Beanie2304 @ Jun 11 2011, 01:38 PM)
PIC SPAMZ!

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Attended a press conference in a very small place, a Korean BBQ restaurant at Desa Sri Hartamas yesterday. =D
I saw the other pics too. It would have been better if you shot facing them. Pity most were side shots.

QUOTE(Soul-X @ Jun 11 2011, 07:43 PM)
Walao transformer fever everywhere
QUOTE(BenSow @ Jun 12 2011, 05:37 PM)
guys, when a camera gear is lost, how can it be found again?

back from camp.. first time photographing flowing water in nature.. reason being my mum will never allow me to go to rivers -.-

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Not bad. I like it. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 12 2011, 09:57 PM)
Thank you smile.gif Still trying to get into landscape photography, using a CPL appeared to a little tricky on wide angle... only certain portion of the sky is polarized  doh.gif Any tips? Main reason is for a more saturated blue sky.
What CPL are you using? B+W? Use the thinnest one possible but I think you already know this...

QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 12 2011, 10:19 PM)
get a gradient filter?
A gradient filter is not a CPL.

QUOTE(gnome @ Jun 12 2011, 10:58 PM)
Haha same here, tried a few times to take landscape photos but all turned out so so only, nothing special sweat.gif
It's more difficult to use wide angle and get good composition than to use a tele.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 12 2011, 11:00 PM)
maybe u didnt position urself in the optimum position for the cpl to work fully.
CPL on wide angles are generally tricky. The whole frame does not get polarised (i.e. one side gets polarised more than the other side).

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 12 2011, 11:26 PM)
now looks better but duno why the green colour is kinda fake-ish for both tires.... even Aldo's some landscape green colour i also feel like i never see this kind of green in my eyes beforeĀ  hmm.gif
Fake green is due to pushing the saturation up.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 12 2011, 11:31 PM)
its got something to do with how the angle of the sun rays hit, but in general, 12oclock sun is no good.
i only use polariser mostly to get rid of reflections tongue.gif
I too have given up on them. More so now that I shoot with the 14-24.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 13 2011, 12:12 AM)
Last time I remember at 1/60 f/22 ISO200 I still overexpose -.-... at least the CPL is going to cut light :S.
You still need ND filter. The CPL is not going to cut a lot of light.

QUOTE(hypermount @ Jun 13 2011, 08:16 AM)
is it safe to reuse the backpack which I store the lenses? it's a lowepro and I don't feel like ditching it.
Hmmm, this is tricky. I would sun the bag first and make sure it's dry.

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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Jun 13 2011, 10:34 PM)
Thanks for sharing everdying smile.gif ..
But i think it's not about calibration. My colors at least look 'ok' before this. Something must have gone corrupt or something.

Can any one help?
Out of LR, are your pics different viewing under a different photo jpg viewer? If yes, your LR is corrupted. If not, it could be (although unlikely) that your LCD exhibiting colour shifts...

Perhaps post a sample pic for us to check?

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 13 2011, 11:12 PM)
sharing is caring.
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Ahah... Backlight. Does not necessarily have to come from the sun.

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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Jun 14 2011, 12:45 AM)
im planning to do photography class handle conducted by professional speaker. i might wanna know from here, how many are interest to join if i conduct?
Any idea who the speaker might be?


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QUOTE(gnome @ Jun 14 2011, 10:14 PM)
anyways today's haul

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and a sample pic taken wide open

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Congrats ! That's fast. How much? From J One?

QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jun 14 2011, 11:12 PM)
I noticed there are several versions of Nikon 85mm f1.4? Which is the best and how much it costs? Could someone enlighten me? Thought of getting a 85mm f1.4 G.
I have the 1.4D but I've read that the 1.4G beats it slightly in all aspects. However, they mention that there's a look / glow from the older 1.4D that the 1.4G does not have.

Either way, I don't think you can go wrong with either.

QUOTE(elainor @ Jun 14 2011, 08:57 PM)
Anyone here using mbp? im wondering is it able to use crack version of aperture 3, LR os cs5 just like windows cause im gonna get one when i come back (sick of windows 7) . I bet none of you are using ori version  laugh.gif
Errr... Don't make sweeping statements like that. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(elainor @ Jun 15 2011, 12:37 AM)
Buying list for this return trip:

A f/1.4g either 24mm/35mm (purpose for street photography any comments)?
Why 35mm f/1.4 since you already have the 35mm f/1.8? For D7000, the 24mm would be nice. 35mm may be a little too tele for street.

QUOTE(gnome @ Jun 15 2011, 09:31 AM)
Bought from foto selangor, RM650 laugh.gif
Thanks for the info. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jun 15 2011, 01:47 AM)
can't afford to jump la. Just wanna get best of both. Used to have D90 and D300 last time tongue.gif
If I recall, jumping ship is for people who cannot afford. But keeping both systems is something else ! rclxub.gif

Anyway, the Canon system is excellent. Any reason to continue using the Nikon?

In other words, what does Nikon have that Canon does not? In the same way, what does Canon have that Nikon does not? Just curious.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 15 2011, 11:00 AM)
f/1.2 primes with AF! < Something Nikon doesn't have yet...
Nothing to shout about. I would not pay so much for a f/1.2.

For a 58mm f/1.2 Noct, that's a different matter. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(elainor @ Jun 15 2011, 12:48 PM)
Thanks for the comments, yea i have thought about it as well, 24mm in fx will it be too wide to shoot?
24mm is not that wide on FX. 35mm on FX is quite nice actually.

Street price? Pretty much everywhere I ask, these are the prices I get. RM 4.9k for the 35mm f/1.4 and RM 6.5k for the 24mm f/1.4. icon_question.gif

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Jun 15 2011, 01:27 PM)
I went to Foto Selangor at Pertama Compleks just now, served by a graceful Chinese lady, bought 50mm 1.8g for Rm650 and extra batt for RM190, Memory card for RM100.

Paid by card band no additional charges.

Im not sure cheap or exp the extra batt or memory card, but I believe 50mm 1.8g for Rm650 is the lowest I see so far.

Thanks gnome for the info.
Thanks for the feedback especially on the bit about no surcharge on CC. Perhaps you bought other extra stuff?

I've bought more expensive stuff before but some shops still insist on 2% surcharge. mad.gif

BTW, congrats on the new lens.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jun 15 2011, 01:44 PM)
get transformer ,
you can do more with android  whistling.gif
If I want to view pics only, I would be more concerned about the quality of the screen. Not how many apps can be supported.

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QUOTE(Thundercatz @ Jun 15 2011, 03:52 PM)
hi, guys, got something to ask here,
what is the difference on
1. using photoshop to tuning the photo color and brightness correctly
2. shoot RAW file and edit the WB & picture style with capture NX

outcome is the same, still dunno wat is the different
kena shot by some expert sifu but i dun get it ler rclxub.gif
Using RAW / NEF, you have much more room to edit. It used to be that the JPG files from the camera are very lousy and have low resolution and therefore not so suitable if you want to edit and do fancy stuff on it. But nowadays with high MP cameras, JPG files that come out from the camera are quite good already if your target output is 4R printing or just for posting on the web. If you shoot correctly in the first place, I don't see why the outcome should be different. So if you just do minor editing, the end result should be about the same if you shot it with RAW / NEF and convert. If you need to do major editing, RAW / NEF would be better.

BTW, you can also shoot RAW / NEF and edit using Photoshop / Lightroom under ACR. Just that only the WB information is recognised. Other settings like Picture Style etc is ignored under ACR.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 15 2011, 04:01 PM)
in picture encoding, JPEG lost many details already while RAW still keep the infos...that's why if wan play safe then shoot RAW.
Lets just say that RAW / NEF files are digital negatives of your picture.

During film days, your basic source of your picture is your film negatives. RAW / NEF files are like film negatives but in digital form. Everything is contained in it.

So if you want to manipulate or do poster size printing, getting your pics extracted from RAW / NEF is the best.
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jun 16 2011, 12:10 AM)
FishEye 8-16mm, Tilt Shift lenses, f1.0 and f1.2 wicked lenses, plenty more. smile.gif
Canon T&S lenses are famous. I've not seen a comparo since Nikon came out with theirs after releasing FX bodies. But Canon have the widest T&S lens 17mm f/4 which Nikon's widest is only 24mm f/3.5.

QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jun 16 2011, 12:10 AM)
Plenty of Nikonians would buy 50mm f1.2 anytime if it's available compared to jumping and getting a 58mm f1.2 biggrin.gif
You are not familiar with the legendary 58mm f/1.2 Noct?

QUOTE(Isepunye @ Jun 16 2011, 12:40 AM)
i shoot street my lousy 50mm F1.8 whistling.gif
You have samples?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 16 2011, 07:13 AM)
Anticipating for the 50mm f/1.2 AF version from Nikon, the old 50mm f/1.2 AiS (MF) beats the crap out of the newer 50mm f/1.4D and even 50mm f/1.4G :S.
The 58mm f/1.2 Noct owns them all.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/58.htm

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 16 2011, 10:44 AM)
aiyah.. 50 1.4 is so lousy la bro..
http://www.dwatak.pl/?page_id=537
it seems 50 1.8 beats 50 1.4 hands down in term of sharpness.. =\
bokeh might be the other way round. since 1.4 vs 1.8  blush.gif
but I don't know since I never touch 50 1.8G yet. haha
Yup, I've read elsewhere that for the price of the 1.8G and fantastic performance you get, the 1.8G is bang for the buck. Of course if you need f/1.4, then you need it.

Bokeh wise, I'm told the 1.8G still rendered better out of focus. I may be wrong.

QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jun 16 2011, 10:48 AM)
35mm or 50mm 1.8G better?
since price similiar
Depends on what you are going to use it for. DX or FX body?

I personally find that on DX bodies, the 50mm is too long for general photography. For portraiture, perhaps ok.

No point owning the best lens only to not use it because you are not comfortable with the focal length.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 16 2011, 11:45 AM)
Really tempting; Now wonder how will the 85mm f/1.8G be? If there is one coming...
Hmmm, sounds interesting. Almost all updated lens turns out better than the lens they replace.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 16 2011, 11:55 AM)
True, it also depends on the distance from your subject and what are you shooting. For wedding or events where you need more hit rate and capture the moments, you hardly use very wide aperture unless you're really confident; But for portrait shoot under controlled environment, then it's different story; But not everyone understand when to use the aperture and just use the widest, end up many OOF or sharp at different area; In my personal opinion, it defeats the purpose.
Agreed. Shallow DoF needs a static subject. Very difficult if the subject is constantly moving. But once you nailed the subject, you get a very satisfying feeling after looking at the results. Simply mind blowing.

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 16 2011, 12:00 PM)
I love shallow DOF. it's just amazing. drool.gif
I am thinking to get kegma and 35mm 1.8 then sell my sigmalux. Muhahaha..  wub.gif
Hopefully increment fast fast come.  blush.gif
If you love shallow DoF, then you'll love 24mm f/1.4 and the 35mm f/1.4. Oh, not forgetting the 85mm f/1.4 too. biggrin.gif

Getting DoF separation at wide angles is simply mind boggling.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jun 16 2011, 03:32 PM)
Since I'm on DX, I'm considering between 16-35mm f/4G and 24-70mm f/2.8G to be my next upgrade for lens. Any opinion? 24mm on DX quite tight.
Actually, the better lens would be the 17-55mm f/2.8 DX lens but between the two you listed above, I would go for 16-35mm f/4 for the work you do.

You can sell the 17-55mm f/2.8 later if you upgrade to FX.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 16 2011, 03:53 PM)
For candid, actually 50mm on DX still not tele enough, you still need to get quite close and unless you want to get full body shot.
That is why for me the 50mm is neither here nor there on DX. smile.gif

I've not tried the cheap 50mm f/1.8D lens that I have on the D700 too much. I guess it's because the quality is not too good? Perhaps the 1.8G would change that. hmm.gif

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 16 2011, 03:57 PM)
yes you have to pay extra RM 300++
but it is cheaper compare to 50 1.4 G.
Sigmalux also good.  whistling.gif
If you want f/1.4 on the Nikon 50mm, you'll want it more for light gathering ability. For bokeh, the 1.8G renders smoother bokeh than the 1.4G and 1.4D if I'm not wrong.

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 16 2011, 03:57 PM)
IMHO get 17-55. 24-70 is mean for FX user.
once you are in FX already then sell it off.
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jun 16 2011, 05:23 PM)
If Nikon gonna produce another 50mm f1.2, do you think they will make it worse than the 58mm f1.2 Noct which is already decades old? Another reason why Nikonians would rather get the new 50mm f1.2 is AF instead of MF. smile.gif
Zeiss Distagon lenses are also MF. So what's wrong with MF? flex.gif

But I digress... I have no idea if Nikon would make the the new f/1.2 (if they ever make one) that surpasses the quality of the Noct in my opinion or if Nikon would ever make another Noct. The Noct's specialty is in rendering images in low light at wide open but normal day to day use, it's quality is easily exceeded by today's lenses. So making a AF-S 50mm f/1.2 that exceeds the quality of the Noct at normal daylight shooting usage should be doable.

QUOTE(razuryza @ Jun 16 2011, 05:36 PM)
new one is 1500-1650.. so.. u think it is reasonable or not?  rolleyes.gif
At that time when SB-800 was the latest and greatest and brand new was around RM 1.2k, you seldom see 2nd hand price below 1k.

I would say that don't expect the 2nd hand prices of SB-900 to be cheap. In my opinion, if you want cheap, RM 1350 for 2nd hand seems about right. If you're not comfortable paying those prices for 2nd hand, get it new.
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QUOTE(luminescence69 @ Jun 16 2011, 06:13 PM)
hi guys,

was just wondering if these photographer legal rights apply to us in Malaysia.

Photographer legal rights
I guess... But nobody has rights in Malaysia. laugh.gif

Once I was shooting inside the performance of Cirque du Soleil in Macau the other time and was stopped half way because while changing settings, the AF assist light came out. rolleyes.gif They requested me to delete the photos which I did. Well, I guess they have the right to do so since they indicated no photography of any sort is allowed.

The other instance is in malls like KLCC or within KLCC grounds, you are not allowed to shoot with a DSLR. Small camera ok. hmm.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 16 2011, 06:51 PM)
Yeap, only for D300 and above. D7000 might have it tho, not quite sure.
That's correct. Just like high-end bodies, the D7000 will work in A (Aperture Priority) or M (Manual) modes with AI / AI-S lenses. P (Program) or S (Shutter priority) exposure modes will not function. For lower end bodies, the AI / AI-S lenses will mechanically couple to the new Nikon bodies but M (Manual) exposure mode only as metering will not work. You need to cuba-cuba.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 16 2011, 11:20 PM)
the question is WHEN will u go fx?
so until then, why sell urself short and sometimes curse urself that ur lens not wide enough (24-70) or long enough (16-35)?
+1

QUOTE(Isepunye @ Jun 17 2011, 12:36 AM)
D200 and above will read the meter. D7000 and below, photographer brain will be the meter haha
D7000 boleh. You can refer here;

http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/slr-lens.html

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jun 17 2011, 01:51 AM)
I would love to go FX anytime, but that depending on my financial. Therefore whenever I could afford it, I'll move to FX. Hopefully by next year?
You need to ask yourself in that one year, how many missed opportunities because of not wide enough or not having the required reach.

If you can live with it, then by all means get either the 16-35mm f/4 or the 24-70mm f/2.8 that suits you.

QUOTE(Thundercatz @ Jun 17 2011, 01:55 PM)
laugh.gif wow, thx sifu thumbup.gif i earn knowledges today
Aiks, I'm no sifu. Glad to share and still learning myself.
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QUOTE(fubs @ Jun 17 2011, 04:51 PM)
a camera (d90 above) or flash (sb700/sb900) with a built in commander mode oso can biggrin.gif
I think you missed out D70... biggrin.gif Their built-in flash can also act as commander.

Else if your camera does not have commander mode, just set your speedlight to SU-4 mode and get your built-in flash to trigger it. But the triggered flash needs to be set manually and you will not have TTL.
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Jun 18 2011, 09:33 PM)
Wah, sharp,

but then, is it because its non moving object, models, flowers etc, hence easier to shoot it sharp?

How about those moving subject, and under low light?
When subject is moving, it's more difficult to capture and nail the focus wide open when DoF is razor thin. Static is easier. Moving + low light + thin DoF = recipe for disaster sweat.gif

You need a good body with more reliable AF. Use AF-C and use single focus and rely on cross type sensors like the middle ones. Then hope for the best. biggrin.gif

Having a lens that's fast on the focus is aslo part of the success equation. Currently, the AF-S 24mm f/1.4, AF-S 35mm f/1.4, AF-S 50mm f/1.4 (and the other 50mm variants), AF-S 85mm f/1.4, AF-D 105mm f/2.0 DC and AF-D 135mm f/2.0 DC portrait lenses unfortunately aren't exactly speedsters when it comes to focusing. They are fast but not enough when the subject moves under low light. That makes nailing focus a little more difficult. The only hand holdable ones that are fast focusing when coupled with pro bodies are the AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8, AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8, the mother AF-S 200mm f/2.0 ! drool.gif

QUOTE(gnome @ Jun 18 2011, 10:12 PM)
At F1.8 any moving subject can be tough at time to get in focus, heck even with F2.8 also if you or your subject move abit already gone case since the DOF is very thin. Same goes with F1.4 tongue.gif
Especially f/1.4 laugh.gif


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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jun 18 2011, 10:42 PM)
f/1.4... seriously if not static or portraiture, kinda difficult to get a tact sharp image sweat.gif
Yup. It's considered in the lucky category.

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 19 2011, 02:16 AM)
just tested 80-200 2.8 from BTS.
kinda hard to shoot at 200mm w/o VR. =\ maybe just my shaky hand
Needs practice. Steady your hands by putting them close to your body. One hand on the body and the other hand support the lens. Shoot no slower than 1/320 shutter speed.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jun 19 2011, 02:27 AM)
no worry, put to FX then not shake that much tongue.gif
Yeah, FX more forgiving apparently.

QUOTE(Calvin Pixels @ Jun 19 2011, 07:12 PM)
Hi sifu(s), new nikon d5100 user here biggrin.gif
i have only 1 question, is it ok to on the build in high iso NR to high?(can someone explain more about it the user guide dun have)
i shooting at raw format
If you shoot JPG, yes the high ISO noise reduction matters but if you shoot RAW, it will depend on what which RAW convertor are you using?

If you use ACR under Lightroom / Photoshop, yes the settings don't matter in RAW as they are ignored but if you convert the RAW under View NX2 or Capture NX2 by Nikon, yes the settings matter.

High ISO NR will make the details in the picture very mushy and washed out. It's best to leave it at minimum setting or set it no NR at all.

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Very intense. If looks could kill... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Calvin Pixels @ Jun 19 2011, 07:27 PM)
if raw+jpg then jpg is only change?
Yup, only JPG is affected but for RAW, see my post.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jun 20 2011, 01:30 AM)
Found these photos from my friend's FB album titled Punggol Reservoir:

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Those are your friend's setup? Punggol Reservoir is in Singapore if I'm not wrong. Those lenses are mounted on Gitzo tripods with Wimberley type gimbal heads which makes maneuvering the body + lens setup to track birds almost effortless.

QUOTE(BenSow @ Jun 19 2011, 09:39 PM)
dammit... went outside for a photowalk and reverse macro-ed an insect and then minutes later I look thru the viewfinder and saw a worm-like thingy i was like wtf? Removed my lens and saw like a very small piece of string on the mirror... how do i clean it? >< quite annoying as it is at the centre AF point
You changed lenses under dusty conditions? I believe the problem you have does not affect the picture but it's a nuisance when viewed in the viewfinder. If you're lucky, the string would just disappear over time.

QUOTE(Isepunye @ Jun 20 2011, 03:05 AM)
just try and error today tongue.gif
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Nice. I think this one is one of your better shots. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jun 18 2011, 12:41 AM)
lai spam, first time take my 18-35mm for serious photo taking doh.gif

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Forgot about this. Nice one. Really like this. smile.gif

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Jun 19 2011, 11:15 PM)
I go shoot some photos this morning, and i have this question and hopefully sifu can teach me:

1) What is the correct way to shoot children at playground?

I use AF-c focus, Continuous shooting mode, Aperture mode today.

Will it be better to shoot with Af-c, Continuous and Shutter mode instead? so that i can choose to either show movement or freeze movement?
2) What is the best / fastest / convenient way to change between AF-s and Af-c? Or it is ok to shoot all the time in Af-c if im expecting movement, e.g. at the playground?
I'm not too sure how the D5100 AF behaves or where the controls are. What subject are you shooting? If your subject is still and does not move (can pose for you), stick with AF-S. If you're shooting fast moving subjects, stick with AF-C. You can stick with AF-C all the time but you must be aware that your focus shifts when you recompose.

Whether to shoot in aperture or shutter priority, it also depends. For sports when I want to decide if I want to freeze the subject or want motion blur, I would choose shutter mode. My lenses don't have VR and I would use shutter priority + Auto ISO when required to keep the shutter speed high in low light. For everything else, I use aperture priority.

Try and test. Sometimes for more control, I put the controls in Manual mode especially in low light. The shooter has all the control.

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Jun 19 2011, 11:15 PM)
3) What is the best / fastest / convenient way to change from Single shot mode to Continuous mode? Or it is ok to be in Continuous mode and taking 1 picture at a time? any different?
I usually leave the camera at continuous mode. If you need one shot, just press once and the camera will only take one shot.

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Jun 19 2011, 11:15 PM)
4) What is the correct / near to best aperture value for landscape? Im using 50mm for the whole photoshoot and i cant use f/1.8 to take landscape photo right? Since the subject is big and i cant get the whole subject into focus?
On a D5100 or cropped sensor cameras, you would not want to go beyond f/11 to avoid difraction limits. I would stay with f/8 and be there ! biggrin.gif

On if using f/1.8 to take landscapes is a good idea, my reply is depends. If you're shooting at night, then you have a good reason. If you shoot daytime, your shutter speed might hit the 1/8000 limit.

You can actually get all your subjects in focus if you use hyperfocal technique. The hyperfocal distance for 50mm lens shot at f/1.8 on the D5100 is estimated around 70.2m from your camera. Focus at that location and everything else in the frame would be in focus.

In general, you would want to stop down the lens for 2 reasons;

1. To get enough DoF

2. Because most lenses are not sharp when shot wide open and performs better or best when stopped down

If you have a 58mm f/1.2 Noct or the 24mm f/1.4 or the 35mm f/1.4, these lenses are often shot wide open for night shots because wide open, their performance is excellent.

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Jun 19 2011, 11:15 PM)
5) I used the spare memory card today, brand new, out from the packaging, so now i have one memory card in the camera and one spare, what is the correct way to store the backup memory card? any holder?
When you buy the new memory card, doesn't it already come with the plastic holder?

QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Jun 20 2011, 09:39 AM)
AP Racing glow in the dark series stoppers.....

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Nice. Well done. rclxms.gif

I think it would be better if you crop to exclude the bottom tarmac.


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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jun 20 2011, 01:52 PM)
and the wimberly + gimbal cost more than the tripod anytime  tongue.gif
Well it can be but if you're talking about Gitzo tripods, they cost as much if not more than the Wimberleys.

Cheap way is to go with CF tripods like Benro + Manfrotto 393 gimbal.

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