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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V10, The dark lord continues

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celciuz
post Jul 3 2011, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Jul 3 2011, 10:53 AM)
So in a way (in technical terms) the 50f18G is better than the 85f14G and 35f14G?

Haven't got a chance to see the comparison yet..
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It doesn't have nano coat? its f/1.8? It just has aspherical element which both 85 and 35 don't. Plus 85 and 35 has 9 blade aperture design.
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post Jul 3 2011, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Jul 3 2011, 11:26 AM)
biggrin.gif Next time need to think out whether need grab old lens D or top up more go for G if is it same distance and F stop for prime lens.  biggrin.gif
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Sure... new lens not only add in SWM... example the 85mm. The new 85G is more accurate in focusing, nicer color and also less CA. Sharpness I think more or less similar.
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post Jul 3 2011, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Jul 3 2011, 11:48 AM)
So for the an Average Joe like me, won't have much different in final picture?

Btw, I'm still thinking to take the 85f14 or 85f18. In that range the bokeh doesn't give much different right? Just that the f14 is a stop faster?
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Not a 1.4 vs 1.8 comparison,

Taken at f/1.4
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Boe by CY Pixels, on Flickr

Taken at f/2
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Giyumi Molly by CY Pixels, on Flickr

This is just a rough guide, as there are many other variables.. like distance to subject etc.
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post Jul 3 2011, 04:31 PM

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Just tried friend's new 50 1.8G, got to admit it is sharp wide open! Impressive. He got his at 700, what's the price like in KL?
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post Jul 3 2011, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(KIEN18 @ Jul 3 2011, 04:40 PM)
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Looks soft... where was the focus point?

QUOTE(maelzx @ Jul 3 2011, 05:35 PM)
i dont know where people get cheap price such as RM680 (they said at j-one amcorp mall) but I did ask at Pertama there, RM799.
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I thought it was about RM650 around in KL?
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post Jul 3 2011, 06:24 PM

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Best part about the 50mm f/1.8G, really light! And capable of shooting at f/1.8... sweet... now if only the f/1.2 would be as good or better biggrin.gif
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post Jul 3 2011, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(KIEN18 @ Jul 3 2011, 06:48 PM)
totally soft...
haha...how to increase the sharpness?
focus point should be at her nose.. hmm.gif
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Is it OOF or maybe handshake?

QUOTE(RobustRobot @ Jul 3 2011, 07:09 PM)
so Celciuz, u highly recommend this lens for those who haven't had any 50mm yet? people like me~~ ;P
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Yeap! I would put it this way... for f/1.8 if you have the budget go for the 50mm f/1.8G, or else then f/1.8D. If I had the budget, and to choose between definitely the f/1.8G. It looks even better than the f/1.4D/G wide open!

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jul 3 2011, 07:51 PM)
Wow, I wonder what kind of shop you walked into. Anyway, Foto Selangor at Ground Floor of Pertama Complex is offering the lens at RM650. Even if they did not offer this price at the very beginning when you asked, a little negotiation will able to get it at RM650 even for not regular.

Anyway, the retail price is RM798. That's the highest possible it should go after it's officially being launched in Malaysia.
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Sweet, maybe I can try to nego with my regular shop. Melaka one selling at RM700...
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post Jul 4 2011, 10:13 AM

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Taken yesterday during a Fashion Show in Mahkota Parade, Melaka yesterday.

Experimenting with different approach,
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Marina by CY Pixels, on Flickr

The stage, really sucks compared to KL's shows sad.gif
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post Jul 5 2011, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 5 2011, 02:39 PM)
The AF-S 35mm f/1.4 has one aspherical lens element. The AF-S 85mm f/1.4 has none while the AF-S 24mm f/1.4 has TWO aspherical lens elements. All of these 3 lenses have Nano Crystal Coating and have 9 blades for excellent bokeh rendering.
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Whops my bad.

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 5 2011, 02:48 PM)
Aiks... What time was that? I was in Malacca last weekend.
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2PM and 3:30PM on Sundays for July. There will be various shows... with the same crappy stage...
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post Jul 6 2011, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jul 6 2011, 08:25 AM)
You need to be extra careful on such expensive lens; There's one guy in PM bought a problem unit, when he test everything was OK, later the problem emerge; When he send to Nikon centre, the repair bill was very high and there was repair record as well, apparently, according to the buyer, the previous seller opt for the temporary solution repair which makes it work for a short while or something like that; Not sure the details, but it's a good example of how bad it can turn out.
Video and using a lot of live view will use up a lot of battery; Unless you want to use wide aperture for video shooting, your N8 probably does a better job for "general" video recording, and more easy to handle and capture.

As for the N8 f/2.8, it's also because it's a wider angle lens and the smaller sensor, the DOF is more compared with DSLR; Thus, you get more in focus in N8 and less bokeh, unless you shoot in close up mode, which if you shoot your DSLR close up, you can get "more" bokeh as well.
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Must be the 17-55 case... well a bit scary lo when buying 2nd hand lens in that case.

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 6 2011, 09:34 AM)
If you're looking for quality, yes it would work well. But like others have mentioned, the 24mm wide end may not be wide enough on DX format.

For D300s or any DX body, the AF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 is very versatile and excellent lens.
The Tokina is not bad but if you want the best wide angle, it's the AF-S 14-24mm f/2.8.

2nd perhaps is the AF-S 16-35mm f/4 VR but may not meet your ultra wide needs.
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Ok, then bokeh is secondary for you then. As you found out, the 35mm suites your shooting style better.
If you put the 18-200 lens at the tele end and get closest to your subject, you still should get some bokeh !

Eh, your 200-400mm f/4 VR should get tremendous bokeh too.  biggrin.gif
If you're not sure, buy from reputable shops that deal with 2nd hand stuff like YL in Pudu Plaza.
Shit happens not just to used stuff (and more likely from conman) but sometimes to brand new stuff too. My brand new D700 konk out after one week of use.
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200-400 f/4 bokeh is slurp~
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post Jul 6 2011, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 6 2011, 10:37 AM)
that's why there are still ppl out there collecting AF-D lenses, with no VR or AF-S to eventually break down tongue.gif
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My friend's 50mm f/1.4D screw drive thread worn out, the AF no longer accurate at f/1.4 :S.
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post Jul 6 2011, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 6 2011, 12:00 PM)
But but but... No Nano Coating.  sad.gif

Anyway, AF-D lenses are cheaper while still having very good optics.
First time hearing about the thread wearing out. Nikon body AF motor too powerful?
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Well, everything has wear and tear. Just like the SWM where it eventually gives way.

The screw drive, can see it is 'bigger' than my rarely used 50mm f/1.8D's. And the lens isn't accurate at f/1.4 already.
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post Jul 6 2011, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 6 2011, 04:27 PM)
Your friend bought it new or 2nd hand? Don't know the history of the lens. For all we know, it has been to hell and back.  sweat.gif
Nice find.  rclxms.gif I'm sure they will compare it to the 14-24mm f/2.8 monster. Physically, it looks very similar to the 14-24mm f/2.8.
South or Northern part? 18-200mm should be a nice range. I went there a few years ago with a D70 + Nikon 24-120mm VR + Tamron 70-300mm. The tele end was useful when I wanted to shoot the sperm whale spouting on the surface at Kaikoru.

On your question, I personally don't think you can use your 50mm as a walk-about main lens for the things you intend to do. It's too tele on the D7000.

BTW, enjoy yourself. New Zealand is a wonderful place to photograph. If there is one place I would like to re-visit, it would be New Zealand.
I think it's either 1 or 3 if you're into portraiture. Getting the speedlight would depend if you're into available light photography (no flash) or not.

I would suggest you limit the focal length of your 18-105mm to 50mm (or 85mm) to discipline yourself to shoot at those focal lengths and see which is the one you're most comfortable with. Else, if you get the chance, try out those lenses at shops.
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Brand new! His most used lens since he was using D90 + 18-105 + 50 + 105 VR. Then later on he bought D3s which eventually the 50mm is on almost all the time, until the 70200 VR2 came in and he stopped using 50mm f/1.4D often already due to focus accuracy issue.
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post Jul 6 2011, 06:22 PM

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Looks like the one nearby Eye on Msia...?
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post Jul 6 2011, 06:46 PM

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Beside the beach... you mean beside the sea? A lot people play kite in the evening right?
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post Jul 7 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Jul 7 2011, 12:33 PM)
yeah, if you die die must buy one lens, get the 50mm f1.8 G. heard that it's rm 650 only. got extra for a piece of filter somemore.
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Me likey that lens drool.gif Small and portable. Sharp as well~! Recommended ^^, but maybe on crop sensor a bit tele for all rounder lens.
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post Jul 7 2011, 01:54 PM

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Really thinking to buy a 50mm f/1.8G... but that means I need to sell away my 50mm f/1.8D -.- and probably sell it away when f/1.2 finally becomes true drool.gif
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post Jul 7 2011, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(Devil_J @ Jul 7 2011, 11:39 PM)
PC Fair??? they changed their name into Digital Lifestyle  Expo?
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Different event.. last year it was on December.. only 2 halls... small scale actually...
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post Jul 7 2011, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Jul 7 2011, 11:42 PM)
PC Fair/DLE/Malaysia IT Fair/IT Expo - Still PC Fair what?
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He is probably referring to the PIKOM PC Fair.
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post Jul 8 2011, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(david9 @ Jul 8 2011, 03:41 PM)
sadly , the 1.8G is made from china sad.gif
1.4 G is the ULTIMATE

Still , 1.8G is better than my old 1.8 , i heard autofocus is faster than 1.4G , hopefully i didnt see wrong from article or from youtube .

I have the same thought like you . Planning to get 50mm f1.8G too .
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50mm f/1.4G is ultimate? ._. as a 50mm f/1.4... it is just so so la...

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