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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V10, The dark lord continues

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celciuz
post Jul 8 2011, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(lighter @ Jul 8 2011, 04:18 PM)
Kenko, Hoya and Tokina are same company call THK. The reason why Kenko is cheaper because it is in different range.. same like Toyota and Lexus
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Wrong. Kenko and Hoya is not like Toyota and Lexus.

Hoya's top of the range, the Hoya HD has a Kenko equivalent which is called the Kenko Zeta. Same hardened glass.

To be honest, the Hoya normal single coat filter, is just as bad as the Kenko freebies. They are the same grade.
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post Jul 9 2011, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jul 8 2011, 10:52 PM)
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guys and girls, where to buy the rubber thingy ah ?
can peel off to mount mb-d10 that rubber sweat.gif

seems like unable to find
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Lost yours? Try asking directly from Nikon, they usually have these parts available for sale.
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post Jul 9 2011, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jul 9 2011, 01:05 AM)
wei wei , help me buy one lah if free to go whistling.gif

im living in kota kinabalu  sweat.gif

how the heck i will lost mine i also duno  shakehead.gif  doh.gif
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Slipped off from your MB-D10 slot is it?
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post Jul 9 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jul 9 2011, 12:09 PM)
Just to remind you that 85 f/1.4 don't have VR as well. With big aperture, VR can be neglected.

Started with 18-105. Now 17-55.
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Sometimes the VR do help tongue.gif. 85mm -> 1/85 at least for rule of thumb. I can handle 1/60s consistently, but anything below that is taking risk :S.

If have VR then can easily do 1/30s like on my 70200 VR2 even at 200mm.

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post Jul 9 2011, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jul 9 2011, 01:26 PM)
Still learning and rely on tripod? Well, depends on how you see it then...

Call them. There are tons of numbers available on the net by Googling. I came across Foto Selangor from Googling. Make sure they have the stock ready and make an appointment with them before you travelling to KL/PJ from Seremban.

Yeap, 17-55 indeed a solid lens. Now I understand why earlier someone mentioned it's too sharp and need to soften a bit sweat.gif laugh.gif
Isn't the shutter speed can easily be achieved by the big aperture? laugh.gif

Can be that great? Hmm... how much superior is VRII from VR? huh.gif
It depends on what you're shooting the most and also the kind of "effect" that you want in your shot. f/2.8 can do bokeh, although not that much but definitely better than the 18-105. Sharpness wise I'm not sure, but do you have flashgun? 18-105 is magical with flash biggrin.gif
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What you mean 'that great'? It is possible to handheld it at 1/8s as well.

But oh well, not like you can shoot moving objects at that shutter speed anyways tongue.gif still need big aperture for such condition.
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post Jul 9 2011, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 9 2011, 02:11 PM)
You get what you pay for. In terms of focusing speed, Tamron has always been known to be slow. Sigma is faster amongst 3rd party brands. But in terms of quality, Tamron makes quite good glasses.
If you're in KL/PJ, you can head to Nikon HQ in PJ.

Else, try online?
Subject and composition matters. Besides he does not shoot fast action. More landscape and models that have the time to pose for him.
Sorry but while your other postings are spot one, this one I think that's the most silly reason.  doh.gif
That rubber piece is actually part of the D700/D300/D300s. Not part of the MB-D10 battery grip.
Wah, where do you shoot with your camera? You need everything weather sealed meh?  hmm.gif

Now that you mentioned, I only realised that I have not put mine one since everytime swap the battery grip on and off.
At high shutter speeds, yes. Low shutter speeds, no. Like I mentioned previously, most people switch of VR / IS to get sharp shots when shooting sports. You only get the benefit of VR /IS when shutter speed is very low.
Because it does not have VR, we should junk the 85mm f/1.4.  rclxub.gif
You got your Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8 already?  rclxms.gif
We need to remind ourselves that not everybody on FX body.  tongue.gif

On DX bodies, you need at least about 1/125. If you're a beginner, trying something faster like 1/160 or 1/200.

As a tip, you can try and set minimum shutter speed in the camera's Auto ISO button that tells the camera to jump to a higher ISO when the minimum shutter speed is not met.
Sorry but I don't get what is variable ND. Do you mean graduated ND?

Graduated ND is for sunrise / sunset where the sky part is bright and you want to make that part darker to balance out the landscape.

ND filters are like sunglasses where it blocks excess light. Circular Polariser (CPL) is used mainly during daytime but you don't have to use CPL all the time. Makes the skies bluer and reduces reflection / glare by polarising the light.
Where are you located?

Have you tried Foto Selangor or J-One?
Yes, you almost always need to fallback on sufficient shutter speed to freeze the subject movement unless purposely done for artistic purposes.
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Since we are at the topic on minimum shutter speed, I would like to comment a little based on my little experience.

I have both DX and FX bodies, I can handheld both at 200mm , 1/8s. I don't see differences in terms of 'difficulty' comparing between DX and FX. Same goes to my 85mm, I can consistently hit sharp shots at 1/80s on both FX and DX.

I'm thinking this is because say for example on a 50mm lens, image projected will fill the entire FF sensor. On a crop sensor which is smaller, the image projected will still fill the entire 35mm size frame, but only certain portion can be recorded by the DX sensor. This is why, the focal length is the one deciding what's the 'min shutter needed' based on the 'rule of thumb'. Not the effective focal length.

If you're talking about teleconvertors, then yes that you will be taken into account as optically the focal length is changed. For DX versus FX, the only differences is FX up to the very edge where else DX only in the middle of the frame due to smaller sensor size.

Add on regarding the rubber thingy, when you fit the MB-D10 on your D300/D300s/D700, the rubber piece will be removed and slotted on the MB-D10, thought it might have dropped off when he detached the grip.

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post Jul 9 2011, 10:02 PM

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Just took a few photos to prove my point, stay tuned smile.gif. Need to compile them then I'll upload for you guys to see.
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post Jul 9 2011, 10:49 PM

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Okay, here's the photo. Taken with D700 and D90 with different settings as per in the image. All images taken from the same distance, which explains why on the D90 image looks bigger. Images are zoomed to 100% then print screen and paste on mspaint.

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Untitled by CY Pixels, on Flickr

I uploaded the whole file to my flickr, file size is 17mb so be patient. Link to the full size, http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6030/591881...13c7522bc_o.png
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post Jul 9 2011, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 9 2011, 10:52 PM)
actually, can try 1/8s with VR on at a object say 50m away? biggrin.gif
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If blur due to handshake, does the distance matter? I mean if nearer it would be even more obvious if there's any shake.
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post Jul 9 2011, 11:04 PM

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If shoot at something far away, I wonder how to determine the focus -.-... let's see when I'm free enough I will do it.
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post Jul 11 2011, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(stan001 @ Jul 11 2011, 01:12 AM)
Hi all,

I need some advise on the lens here..

I like to snap family photos, close up facial shots and landscape/sceneries...

Planning to get a D7000 and need some advise / suggestions on the lens :-

Which options is much better / suitable ...

Option 1 -
Nikon 18-200mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR II
( more expensive but no need to change lens )

Option 2 -
kit lens 18-105mm VR and later purchase
55-300mm F4.5-5.6G ED VR
( need to change lens, bigger bags for travelling...  )

Some sellers bundled a AF 50mm f/1.8 to the D7000, what is this 50mm lens used for ??

Was thinking of getting the body with the 50mm bundle and later get the 18-200mm ... is this a good combination ?

Thanks
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I personally would go for Option 2. 100mm more reach compared to option 1. Only downside, need to swap lens. Then again, the advantage is that when you are using the wider end your lens is just a 1855. Light and easy to handle as compared to holding 18200 all the time which is heavy.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jul 11 2011, 01:36 AM)
hyperfocal range already,

goes to infinity.  tongue.gif
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I mean, how hard to determine if the image no shake or what... D700/D90 is only 12MP. Shooting something 50m away --> they will look like midgets on the sensor tongue.gif
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post Jul 11 2011, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 11 2011, 11:55 AM)
Shooting something large like a docking ship at the harbour from 50m away still looks big.
Heaps better than the D70s.  tongue.gif
The original battery grip for D7000 is magnisium alloy?  rclxms.gif
Use Capture NX2 lor. Should correct the distortion of their own lenses.

Unfortunately the 14-24mm f/2.8 is only up to 24mm. It would be great if it was up till 35mm and had VR.  laugh.gif That would make it heavier than the 70-200mm f/2.8.  thumbup.gif
I don't understand. Isn't one of the things to consider before buying a camera would be how the camera and controls feel in your hands? Some prefer big, some prefer small. So preference is all personal taste.

I don't think the OP's reason is insensible for choosing a bigger grip so long at the end of the day, the OP feels comfortable.
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Okay, tested on the D90. Distance err.. should be more or less 50m... weird is from the EXIF didn't show the distance? zzz~ taken in RAW converted using ViewNX.

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1/200s versus 1/8s by CY Pixels, on Flickr
Original size : http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6014/592636...f11b06da2_o.png (100% zoom crop)

image files,

1/200s,
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6149/592579...21dda4a1a_o.jpg

1/8s,
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6149/592579...afc5ee86d_o.jpg
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jul 11 2011, 10:13 PM)
Celciuz... you have got godlike hand? shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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Well, just demonstrating the VRII mechanism to back up my point of the 70200 VR2 able to handheld at 1/8s. First I took something close... then was told if shoot further not possible so here it goes.

Besides, this is on DX sensor. So if the 'rule of thumb' includes crop factor.. then 1/300 --> 1/8 how many stops? biggrin.gif:D:D
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(gnome @ Jul 11 2011, 10:22 PM)
Bus stop laugh.gif
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sweat.gif LOL~

Actually 1/200s --> 1/8s is about 4 stops. Well seems like it is according to what Nikon advertised on the VR2 system, 4 stop compensation.
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post Jul 12 2011, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(junior5417 @ Jul 12 2011, 03:55 PM)
mayb warranty by nikon china. but isit cheap? brows.gif
u will buy 330 by nikon china or 190 by photix?
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Probably another copy like the MB-D10 around the market...
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post Jul 12 2011, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Jul 12 2011, 05:48 PM)
wow, nice,

OH WAI-
LEFUUUUUUUUU

ITS DX LENS,
WHY DX  WHY ?????  doh.gif  doh.gif


Added on July 12, 2011, 5:51 pmI thought I can get something wide + macro feature on FX sad.gif
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It is the DX version of the 60mm f/2.8 macro lens I guess.
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post Jul 12 2011, 10:35 PM

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I would say unlikely for the D700 replacement to be out faster than the D3's replacement. Well, Nikon would probably sell the D3 replacement first to cater for professional. If D700 replacement comes with same sensor, that would hurt their D3 replacement sales.

Exactly scenario as the D3 and D700.
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post Jul 12 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(locksng12 @ Jul 12 2011, 10:39 PM)
but but but but...

D3 came out with the D3s..
At least a budget ver of the full frame please?

D700 is er 2007 i think?
D3s is 2009

if D3s replacements wait for another 3 years, I might as well get D700 right now.  sad.gif
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What do you mean D3 came out with D3s?

Nikon had to update the D3, else most people are going for D700 instead of the higher range D3. This is why D3s came in, and D3s came like 2 years after D3 was released right, (not too sure on this). So I don't think the pro and semi pro FX will be launched so near together. But then, I might be wrong. If Nikon wants their D3 replacement aka the flagship to sell well, they probably will hold the D700 replacement back.
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post Jul 13 2011, 12:35 PM

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user posted image
Carace by CY Pixels, on Flickr

Taken last weekend biggrin.gif. Stage is too ugly so need take from side.
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post Jul 13 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(xbbshampoo @ Jul 13 2011, 03:50 PM)
this macam jennifer le  laugh.gif
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Jennifer Foh / Soh? tongue.gif

She is Carace btw.

QUOTE(kEazYc @ Jul 13 2011, 04:30 PM)
Just came back from BTS Nikon Centre, tested the D7000 but i don't understand why the shutter button is so sensitive, i tried to focus then it straight away shoot, is it due to being "molested" by the public too much? hmm.gif
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Are you comparing to the 'silver shutter button' models? Cause D7000 like the higher end models uses the black squishy type of shutter button. I prefer this kinda feel as it isn't as hard and more sensitive, can avoid camera shake when pressing shutter.

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