How come Engineer salary is so damn low??
Engineer Salary
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May 20 2011, 10:56 AM, updated 15y ago
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How come Engineer salary is so damn low??
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May 20 2011, 10:57 AM
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All oso low la. U think oni engineer suffer wan ah?
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May 20 2011, 10:57 AM
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May 20 2011, 11:00 AM
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because lu orang makan gaji buta.
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May 20 2011, 11:01 AM
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becos you're in Malaysia
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May 20 2011, 11:02 AM
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dah kalau intelligence low, gaji pun low la.
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May 20 2011, 11:07 AM
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May 20 2011, 11:10 AM
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engineer suckss.. spend so much time and money to graduate for a useless paper... high capital low repayment!!!
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May 20 2011, 11:10 AM
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May 20 2011, 11:14 AM
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must... get IR status oni can earn big money
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May 20 2011, 11:17 AM
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ts already got IR
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May 20 2011, 11:22 AM
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May 20 2011, 11:23 AM
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I R BABOON
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May 20 2011, 11:24 AM
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May 20 2011, 11:24 AM
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Here in Malaysia only Dr and Politicians gains high salary...
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May 20 2011, 11:26 AM
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exactly...think lawyer earns alot? work like dog for 14-5 hours a day only RM4k a month.
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May 20 2011, 11:28 AM
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May 20 2011, 11:28 AM
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lieeezzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!
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May 20 2011, 11:29 AM
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no the IR treat u like shiat.. Hold IR macam more knowledgable meh ?
so must get IR status to treat other like shiat next time |
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May 20 2011, 11:35 AM
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IR is to do business, no engineering usage pun.
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May 20 2011, 11:40 AM
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business mgmt and management / managers earn more than engineers nowadays
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May 20 2011, 11:44 AM
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sale engineer got higher salary...
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May 20 2011, 11:50 AM
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bcos engineer = kuli
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May 20 2011, 11:55 AM
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Most fresh grad engineer starting salary RM 2500 - 2800..
Work for 10 years..increment abt 5% per yr .. salary abt RM5K oni.. If smart.. alwys jump company or get promoted maybe can get about 7-8K la... 10K oso possible all dpds on company and oso ur boss la. if he likes ur work.. can up fast.. and $$ oso go up faster.. but majority still stuck at RM5k range... by age 30.. |
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May 20 2011, 11:58 AM
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so this dude with only pmr is will laugh at engineers? |
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May 20 2011, 11:58 AM
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my bro engineer.salary 16k yo
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May 20 2011, 12:04 PM
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yeah. O&G. in order 2 gain high salary,u always hv to jump company la.
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May 20 2011, 12:09 PM
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ayam an engineer in o&g.
salary 43k per month. next month got bonus summore. problem? work from 8am to 7pm This post has been edited by old_and_slow: May 20 2011, 12:10 PM |
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May 20 2011, 12:19 PM
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ubah gaya hidup
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May 20 2011, 12:20 PM
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May 20 2011, 12:25 PM
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i engineer but my salary very very high
this is becos i works at crony company and they pay bumi very very high oh yeah! MALAY SUPREMACY!!!! |
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May 20 2011, 12:25 PM
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May 20 2011, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(old_and_slow @ May 20 2011, 12:09 PM) ayam an engineer in o&g. salary 43k per month. next month got bonus summore. problem? work from 8am to 7pm QUOTE(old_and_slow @ May 20 2011, 12:20 PM) got degree in ep. but after working for long time, promote till management. got many tests, must have dicipline etc. ep?mostly do meeting, planning and finding ventures. |
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May 20 2011, 12:26 PM
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fak O&G sector. politically driven.
doctor got huge salary but don't deserve that. Professional must get equal salary scheme based on experience and all that. CGPA is shit in working environment. |
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May 20 2011, 12:26 PM
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May 20 2011, 12:27 PM
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May 20 2011, 12:29 PM
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ceh GRO 800 per day la.
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May 20 2011, 12:30 PM
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Engineering so cham meh? lol.
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May 20 2011, 12:30 PM
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yeah.... we calculate our "fees"
much much lower than ayam |
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May 20 2011, 12:32 PM
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May 20 2011, 12:34 PM
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farking tered is demotivating
i wan go /wrist liao |
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May 20 2011, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(viper88 @ May 20 2011, 11:55 AM) Most fresh grad engineer starting salary RM 2500 - 2800.. u r so rite Work for 10 years..increment abt 5% per yr .. salary abt RM5K oni.. If smart.. alwys jump company or get promoted maybe can get about 7-8K la... 10K oso possible all dpds on company and oso ur boss la. if he likes ur work.. can up fast.. and $$ oso go up faster.. but majority still stuck at RM5k range... by age 30.. |
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May 20 2011, 12:37 PM
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May 20 2011, 12:37 PM
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what u aspect from engineer..high class kuli la..high salary? common la its normal salary la even another executive can get what can engineer get. But engineer alway lives suffering, sometime working 24 hour without overtime, far from family, anak tak terjaga, liveless duduk kat site saje kalu duduk kat pendalaman abis intenet pun takde nak masuk lyn pun tak dpt
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May 20 2011, 12:38 PM
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so only O&G enginner can get high salary.
but in O&G, not only enginner salalry is high, others position also got good salary. in consultant line, my senior manager only RM12k/mth!!! |
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May 20 2011, 12:41 PM
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12k is maannnnnnyaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk liao in normal conjob lo
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May 20 2011, 12:41 PM
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engineer in Petronas or GLC gooding
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May 20 2011, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(ceteong @ May 20 2011, 01:38 PM) so only O&G enginner can get high salary. yeah this is the factbut in O&G, not only enginner salalry is high, others position also got good salary. in consultant line, my senior manager only RM12k/mth!!! engineer work at site and change the other site that mean always travell but account executive stayed at hq office at kl..salary almost same |
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May 20 2011, 12:45 PM
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engineer good pay, but they dont have time to have sex
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May 20 2011, 12:50 PM
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May 20 2011, 12:52 PM
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see where u grad, wat project u accomplished
i've done my 2 yrs of service after grad and earn 5-digit work hard, have brain..pay is good |
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May 20 2011, 01:02 PM
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^ easy if you work for MNCs. sigh...wish i could join mnc...
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May 20 2011, 01:08 PM
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Jual bontot bro.. lagi banyak $$
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May 20 2011, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(viper88 @ May 20 2011, 11:55 AM) Most fresh grad engineer starting salary RM 2500 - 2800.. SADLY... Work for 10 years..increment abt 5% per yr .. salary abt RM5K oni.. If smart.. alwys jump company or get promoted maybe can get about 7-8K la... 10K oso possible all dpds on company and oso ur boss la. if he likes ur work.. can up fast.. and $$ oso go up faster.. but majority still stuck at RM5k range... by age 30.. |
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May 20 2011, 01:32 PM
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non-engineering background management handles engineering. core problem.
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May 20 2011, 01:33 PM
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BCG - Why we hire Engineers?
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May 20 2011, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ May 20 2011, 02:08 PM) BCG - Why we hire Engineers? |
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ May 20 2011, 02:08 PM) BCG - Why we hire Engineers? where's the office at? sounds interesting. story2 a bit la. lazy to browse the website. |
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If you know something that is technical/ knowledge in technology or science engineering eg: geology, solar process, chemical process, refinery..... Then you have credit to challenge for better salary.
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May 20 2011, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(figuremeout @ May 20 2011, 02:31 PM) ...i wanna know the real experience from people who actually work there. how was their journey,struggles and etc chill la. sharing is caring. QUOTE(figuremeout @ May 20 2011, 02:20 PM) |
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mau $ start biz la
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May 20 2011, 02:46 PM
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u need $ to start biz...
so... u need $ to get $ no $ no get $ |
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May 20 2011, 03:15 PM
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engineer in which field ? salary also depand on that plus expriance and what kind company you work.
Some have start from low salary then he get more knowledge in the work he do learn new thing year by year earn big salary higher post |
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May 20 2011, 03:15 PM
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terlalu banyak lepasan ijazah...jadi company2 corporat ada banyak pilihan !
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May 20 2011, 03:26 PM
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civil engineer checking in..but salary dang ciputss..
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May 20 2011, 03:30 PM
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so diploma engineering is juz like a shit??
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May 20 2011, 04:00 PM
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May 20 2011, 04:12 PM
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Malaysia is mainly a low cost manufacturing center, what do you expect
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May 20 2011, 04:24 PM
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hahahahahah, try find a job at good business potential gain la engineers! explore the world, than you can find the job pay you a lot of bucks ~
My friend working for Alcatel-Lucent base at London, project submarine cable network. Working round the world (at least 3 month at oversea) His payment £120/day (not include his claim/food/transportation/bonus) .. his family living at Malaysia dont have much problem at all. |
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May 20 2011, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ May 20 2011, 04:00 PM) no, u are technician. OnG like technician more then engineers bcos Well said "some people can tell you the square root of an orange, but they don't know how to peel it." |
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May 20 2011, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(gemo @ May 20 2011, 04:24 PM) hahahahahah, try find a job at good business potential gain la engineers! explore the world, than you can find the job pay you a lot of bucks ~ £120/day is pretty low if based in london My friend working for Alcatel-Lucent base at London, project submarine cable network. Working round the world (at least 3 month at oversea) His payment £120/day (not include his claim/food/transportation/bonus) .. his family living at Malaysia dont have much problem at all. |
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May 20 2011, 04:48 PM
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diploma in engineering is technician yo
but some factory, they offer job with post "bla bla bla engineer" to diploma holder, but technician level pay. those are different ok? if you are diploma holder and you are technician regardless of "bla bla bla engineer" post jangan perasan engineer ok? submit your application to BEM and get reject letter me work at kroni company and get handsome pay!!! |
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May 20 2011, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(LynnZed @ May 20 2011, 05:29 PM) Well said http://www.graduan2u.com/2010/10/10/kelly-...y-guide-201011/Kelly benchmark for malaysian emplyment. |
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May 20 2011, 04:56 PM
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my dad..civil engineer...IR title..
so wat..work stress...early in the morning go 2 work liao..come bak 10pm... more work 2 do...underpay..stupiat boss...wan face |
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May 20 2011, 05:07 PM
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In US, they had two path for career growth plan for each of their employees. One is technical side another managerial part. Although it's totally diff path the outcome salary is not much different. A senior manager earning more or less the income of a senior engineer. Since they're significant towards each other.
But in Msia, sad but tru. engineer is high level kuli. Make sure the company provide OT, Mileage claim and other allowance before u accept their offer cause basic pay definitely not enough. Driving a City? wearing Frogskin and APC? with 3k? bullshi* i'd say This post has been edited by hidzwan: May 20 2011, 05:07 PM |
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May 20 2011, 05:09 PM
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why u all keep saying high class kuli?! there is no such thing as high class kuli for engineer!!!
its multi purpose kuli |
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May 20 2011, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(hidzwan @ May 20 2011, 05:07 PM) In US, they had two path for career growth plan for each of their employees. One is technical side another managerial part. Although it's totally diff path the outcome salary is not much different. A senior manager earning more or less the income of a senior engineer. Since they're significant towards each other. i have no idea wtf is frogskin, APC and why the F would i drive the POS city.But in Msia, sad but tru. engineer is high level kuli. Make sure the company provide OT, Mileage claim and other allowance before u accept their offer cause basic pay definitely not enough. Driving a City? wearing Frogskin and APC? with 3k? bullshi* i'd say |
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May 20 2011, 05:17 PM
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IT very cham oso... my skillset can easily be replaced by Indians/Indons/Pinoys/Thais for lower price
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QUOTE(gemo @ May 20 2011, 04:24 PM) hahahahahah, try find a job at good business potential gain la engineers! explore the world, than you can find the job pay you a lot of bucks ~ My friend working for Alcatel-Lucent base at London, project submarine cable network. Working round the world (at least 3 month at oversea) His payment £120/day (not include his claim/food/transportation/bonus) .. his family living at Malaysia dont have much problem at all. QUOTE(gemo @ May 20 2011, 04:48 PM) Yeah, he is lucky because did not to live at London ... yeah my fren's uncle's nephew's fren also same thing£120/day his daily payment (total of his salary is up to £8k/month) Engineer working in somewhere on earth, minimum £210/day i hidung damn kembang siot can tell his story in /k/ |
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QUOTE(hidzwan @ May 20 2011, 05:07 PM) But in Msia, sad but tru. engineer is high level kuli. Make sure the company provide OT, Mileage claim and other allowance before u accept their offer cause basic pay definitely not enough. Driving a City? wearing Frogskin and APC? with 3k? bullshi* i'd say u smoking weed? |
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May 20 2011, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(hidzwan @ May 20 2011, 05:20 PM) don't get trigger too fast if it ain't got nothing to do with u. i just lay an example of a fresh grad engineer dreams when they start working n earn their own money. There are quite a lot of jobs that do give a decent starting pay in malaysia. But of course it needs the right people. Problem is a lot of the newbies i saw have poor english skills, and not thinking rather expecting things to be told. Who is going to pay big bucks for this? As for your examples, if being overly materialistic, at least aim higher on the luxury scale. |
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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ May 20 2011, 04:00 PM) no, u are technician. OnG like technician more then engineers bcos LIKE "some people can tell you the square root of an orange, but they don't know how to peel it." QUOTE(LynnZed @ May 20 2011, 04:29 PM) Well said work your way up dude.. u think everything easy in life? if i hire u also i'll ask u, i give u 3k, wat can u give me? ask a lot but know so little.. no work exp.. summore wanna demand.. kids dis day.. wanna come work late, go back home early.. |
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QUOTE(aichiban @ May 20 2011, 05:25 PM) why? my company have an OT rate for all non-management staff. rm35 per hour is pretty decent for me. even my senior engineer colleague still has OT rate. His basic around 9k.QUOTE(kaffra @ May 20 2011, 05:32 PM) There are quite a lot of jobs that do give a decent starting pay in malaysia. But of course it needs the right people. i agree, but u should know how kids these day was raised. especially those who live in urban area and mingle with millionaires kid. how bout a hard working, speak fluent english, o&g engineer whom earn almost half of what other engineers from another country earned but still done nothing less from them. The problem lies in the eyes of the beholder?Problem is a lot of the newbies i saw have poor english skills, and not thinking rather expecting things to be told. Who is going to pay big bucks for this? As for your examples, if being overly materialistic, at least aim higher on the luxury scale. |
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i m civil engineer enjoying RMxx,xxx salary here but forever alone. no family package
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How much you expect? You how many years experience? Which engineering? Which industry?
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makcik... so late liao... no extra pay.. go bek home saja la! Lsy98 liked this post
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dont be as an engineer...study hard...work hard hard..but salary for fresh engineer just 2.5k - 3k only. if got choice go for business...
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itu baiki motor punyai also considered engineer,,,
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QUOTE(zeroxxangels @ May 20 2011, 05:40 PM) LIKE Of course good salary won't fall from the sky and land beautifully on your lap. and FYI i have a very good reputation during my 8 months intern at ALU. go work at 9am, leave work almost 9pm. Im not that typical cheapskate gal looking for good salary with no experience. i have good grades too.work your way up dude.. u think everything easy in life? if i hire u also i'll ask u, i give u 3k, wat can u give me? ask a lot but know so little.. no work exp.. summore wanna demand.. kids dis day.. wanna come work late, go back home early.. Been interviewed,passed SI,promised a job but PET so miskin now (and EE market ain't good in PET, unfortunately). they offer 4k (which is not bad), im looking for better pay knowing what i can offer. and yeah im choosy when it comes to good-earn-money (who doesn't??). just looking for the right job with best offer at the moment. chill lah bro Well,wont' blame u for jumping into that "stereotype-conclusion" as i'm well aware of the typical unemployed grads with so-so qualification but demands sky high. This post has been edited by LynnZed: May 20 2011, 07:06 PM |
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my friends, 2 guys and 1 girl working for JKR (contract)
the girl work there 1st but the 2 guys resign 1st... workload very very high mang...not worth a single cent.. |
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QUOTE(hidzwan @ May 20 2011, 05:49 PM) why? my company have an OT rate for all non-management staff. rm35 per hour is pretty decent for me. even my senior engineer colleague still has OT rate. His basic around 9k. my extra senior engineer colleague's boss's underling's colleague also have super duper OT rate. His basic around 90k.feel good mang to tell his story here |
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QUOTE(LynnZed @ May 20 2011, 06:55 PM) Of course good salary won't fall from the sky and land beautifully on your lap. and FYI i have a very good reputation during my 8 months intern at ALU. go work at 9am, leave work almost 9pm. Im not that typical cheapskate gal looking for good salary with no experience. i have good grades too. I like your attitude, often I see a lot of freshies 'spoil' the market for others by accepting too low of a pay and poor working conditions.Been interviewed,passed SI,promised a job but PET so miskin now (and EE market ain't good in PET, unfortunately). they offer 4k (which is not bad), im looking for better pay knowing what i can offer. and yeah im choosy when it comes to good-earn-money (who doesn't??). just looking for the right job with best offer at the moment. chill lah bro Well,wont' blame u for jumping into that "stereotype-conclusion" as i'm well aware of the typical unemployed grads with so-so qualification but demands sky high. But realistically 4k as a start sounds around the upper end of what anybody would pay for a fresh engineer in malaysia. Maybe if it involves some odd times, offshorre etc you could get more. |
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QUOTE(old_and_slow @ May 20 2011, 12:20 PM) got degree in ep. but after working for long time, promote till management. got many tests, must have dicipline etc. Woooo mostly do meeting, planning and finding ventures. Where do u work? |
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When study that time, smart students go to science stream and stupid students go to arts stream.
end up smart students become anjing liar and stupid students become marketing and management exec. and the stupid 1 govern the smart 1 |
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May 20 2011, 07:40 PM
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ppl from engineering deemed to be in the management (usually)
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Senang cerita, engineer memang sampah masyarakat. Gaji kecik keje berlambak, bos buat engineer cam kuli & takde wang takde amoi. Foreveralone.jaypek
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hmm.... maybe its time i finally get an IR an leave...... this thread makes me depress
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QUOTE(shinkong @ May 20 2011, 05:27 PM) If you don't improve, anyone is replaceable by cheaper alternative. improve means climbing into management, unless you luck into specialized skillsetImprove, everyone want you because there's only you and several others in the market. At least, that's what people say in the MNCs IT field, especially in software and system engineering |
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Im master in Mech Engineering.... I earn RM 5k++ for basic salary... So what do want to aspect.
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i haz a sad
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engineer can masuk management wan,
just keep dicipline and motivated. show that you can perform. surely you will be level up. |
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QUOTE(kaffra @ May 20 2011, 07:24 PM) I like your attitude, often I see a lot of freshies 'spoil' the market for others by accepting too low of a pay and poor working conditions. Awwwww, thanks bro! Just being professional here. Yeah I know 4k is a lot, and as mentioned PET don't have placement for me so been released (was But realistically 4k as a start sounds around the upper end of what anybody would pay for a fresh engineer in malaysia. Maybe if it involves some odd times, offshorre etc you could get more. Unfortunately with my medical condition,I'm dont think that im capable to work offshores *sigh*. Well my dad actually asked me work from ground low, as a technician (i was like wth?). He wanted me to get the taste of how hard it is to earn money. Torture session i guess and couldn't agree more with u on the current (more like a trend) graduates taking the easy way out by accepting anything that comes in their way. well its not wrong to go for something with so-so job, but hey gotta work hard and prove and that they're just way beyond of what they're earning and put a good stand to it (ask for raise lah). jgn la bg org pijak2 give u shit if u have good qualifications and so on. Those are just my humble opinions as i haven't stepped my foot in the working realm This post has been edited by LynnZed: May 20 2011, 08:13 PM |
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QUOTE(old_and_slow @ May 20 2011, 07:53 PM) engineer can masuk management wan, Just listen to the boss and try to kipas bontot boss....Kids nowadays ah always makes mistakes and always blame to technician... Ah many ah engineer today... Buat kerja macam tahi and tak dependable langsung tapi gaji nak more than 4k....wtfjust keep dicipline and motivated. show that you can perform. surely you will be level up. |
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QUOTE(mochachoke @ May 20 2011, 07:58 PM) Just listen to the boss and try to kipas bontot boss....Kids nowadays ah always makes mistakes and always blame to technician... Ah many ah engineer today... Buat kerja macam tahi and tak dependable langsung tapi gaji nak more than 4k....wtf this one true...... kindly refer to engineer ranting thread again http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=findpost&pid=41936013 management..... much easier compared to my underpaid and drop hair work |
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nak gaji tinggi jual pisang goreng
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DO WE CONSIDER STUDYING ENGINEER COURSE IN ANY OF MALAYSIA LOCAL COLLEGE/U AS ENGINEER ? I DON'T GET IT..
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now petronas demanding chem engineer. starting salary minimum of 4.5k/month. just giving some info. but the intake process is stringent.
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QUOTE(mochachoke @ May 20 2011, 07:58 PM) Just listen to the boss and try to kipas bontot boss....Kids nowadays ah always makes mistakes and always blame to technician... Ah many ah engineer today... Buat kerja macam tahi and tak dependable langsung tapi gaji nak more than 4k....wtf Bebudak skrg smue mintak suap dgn sudu emas. Pastu majok klu gaji x naik, keje mcm nak x nak jer... ingat degree diorg tue salut emas, mcm bagus. Klu xnak keje rm2-3k, berlambak bebudak uitm, unisel etc tunggu nak mintak keje...QUOTE(aLittleMisfit @ May 20 2011, 08:07 PM) i do manage my juniors now.... kasi pening saja.... but manage if get paid for it..... waaayyyyyyy better la Try dump everything to them, let them sink... if drown give cpr. If they dun c coffin they won't shed tears one. |
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tak boleh..... ends up i pick up the shit..... always the case T_T
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QUOTE(wrigleyz @ May 20 2011, 08:26 PM) lol hahahahhahahahahahahahahaha super noob quest there. If they don't need EE and why on earth did they sponsored EE students? haven't u heard of EE engineers offshore? Power Plants? Hun, who's noob now? |
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what is c from malaysia is engineer here mostly doing maintaining job....oversea engineer doing r&D work..
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QUOTE(LynnZed @ May 20 2011, 08:29 PM) If they don't need EE and why on earth did they sponsored EE students? haven't u heard of EE engineers offshore? Power Plants? Hun, who's noob now? petronas doesnt really care what kind of engineer they sponsor, during my short stint with them, they would assign the engineers anywhere even if it has no relation to their studies |
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QUOTE(kaffra @ May 20 2011, 08:35 PM) petronas doesnt really care what kind of engineer they sponsor, during my short stint with them, they would assign the engineers anywhere even if it has no relation to their studies forget petronas.....lets talk about those high earning marine engineers ,who work on ships?? sallary in USD, Chief engineer minimum 5KUSD per month, not including allowances... |
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QUOTE(wrigleyz @ May 20 2011, 08:26 PM) lol hahahahhahahahahahahahahaha super noob quest there. QUOTE(LynnZed @ May 20 2011, 08:29 PM) If they don't need EE and why on earth did they sponsored EE students? haven't u heard of EE engineers offshore? Power Plants? Hun, who's noob now? listen to these 2 sifu above n below u. They rank low in priority.QUOTE(kaffra @ May 20 2011, 08:35 PM) |
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QUOTE(kaffra @ May 20 2011, 08:35 PM) petronas doesnt really care what kind of engineer they sponsor, during my short stint with them, they would assign the engineers anywhere even if it has no relation to their studies yeah thats true kaffra, they would simply relocate and dump them anywhere they want. Well was just trying to highlight my point that EE engineer is still crucial in OnG though mainly it has always been Chem n Mechi ranked top on their list. |
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QUOTE(etapanag @ May 20 2011, 08:37 PM) forget petronas.....lets talk about those high earning marine engineers ,who work on ships?? sallary in USD, Chief engineer minimum 5KUSD per month, not including allowances... I briefly went to have a look at O&G because they offered, but it's too dangerous for my liking and i dont like religious stuff being imposed at the workplace. Im back in the auto industry with a normal 8-4 job, good working conditions and much more €s. |
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ May 20 2011, 08:38 PM) Dude, don't tell me something that im already well aware of. That was simply a figure of speech,as in a BIG SIGH knowing EE is not ranked high. My goodness! Some pple just need to polish up their senses. U guys literally think i asked because i didn't knew? This post has been edited by LynnZed: May 20 2011, 08:55 PM |
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QUOTE(etapanag @ May 20 2011, 08:37 PM) forget petronas.....lets talk about those high earning marine engineers ,who work on ships?? sallary in USD, Chief engineer minimum 5KUSD per month, not including allowances... How about ROV Pilot? Cable Engineer? Ship Superintendent? Barge Master? Offshore Installation? |
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QUOTE(kaffra @ May 20 2011, 08:43 PM) I briefly went to have a look at O&G because they offered, but it's too dangerous for my liking and i dont like religious stuff being imposed at the workplace. religious stuff being imposed? mind asking, such as?Im back in the auto industry with a normal 8-4 job, good working conditions and much more €s. |
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QUOTE(LynnZed @ May 20 2011, 08:47 PM) My boss likes to have daily meetings, and we start off with baca doa. Rotates among the team. Ok might as well baca doa, because when i visit the plant there is a big sign there on how many days without a plant incident, but i prefer to do this myself, without it being a company thing. |
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QUOTE(LynnZed @ May 20 2011, 08:44 PM) Dude, don't tell me something that im already well aware of. That was simply a figure of speech,as in a BIG SIGH knowing EE is not ranked high. My goodness! Some pple just need to polish up their senses. U guys literally think i asked because i didn't knew? Ok lor ... lei kong sai lor... lei yeng sai lor... U the greatest engineer know it all lor... |
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see many of you are hired engineer... what you prefer in your job,...
build your carrier path in 1 company of jumping to one another for better salary... |
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hmm oil & gas is the main attraction here eh,
telecom's sector does offer good pay for degree holder that entitle you the job position of an engineer. equipment vendors 4k++ (ericsson, alcatel lucent, nokia siemens & such) operators like maxis, digi, celcom etc cheaper abit 3k++ if you're damn good with a lil bit of experience can get more. further along the line become a specialist & 5 digits salary is easy. last time i was working in a vendor my senior engineer is paid RM30k monthly... now in US working for AT&T for only god knows USD??k per month This post has been edited by kai_rel: May 20 2011, 11:17 PM |
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bcoz some enginner kungfu tarak cukup but like to tok kok a lot and arrow here there when cannot solve problem. That's y. Only the few good ones are highly paid.
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QUOTE(LynnZed @ May 20 2011, 09:41 PM) Bro, c'mon lah. No need for sarcasm here. Pls read before u speak to avoid any misunderstanding in the future. U're the one who's working should be more mature lah. and yeah u r very matured since u know it all along ...so u butthurt coz ppl say EE is not tat important in o&g? |
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QUOTE(kai_rel @ May 20 2011, 11:15 PM) hmm oil & gas is the main attraction here eh, wahh kool one ah.telecom's sector does offer good pay for degree holder that entitle you the job position of an engineer. equipment vendors 4k++ (ericsson, alcatel lucent, nokia siemens & such) operators like maxis, digi, celcom etc cheaper abit 3k++ if you're damn good with a lil bit of experience can get more. further along the line become a specialist & 5 digits salary is easy. last time i was working in a vendor my senior engineer is paid RM30k monthly... now in US working for AT&T for only god knows USD??k per month bw the telecom sector, network engineering/computer science can ah? or purely electronic eng? |
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QUOTE(aichiban @ May 20 2011, 01:55 PM) why 3K only, what is your job scope?if you day day surf /k/ and porn website this is what you should get la if your work is near okok i think getting 4K after 3 years is reasonable la This post has been edited by thken: May 21 2011, 02:47 AM |
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QUOTE(ebay @ May 21 2011, 02:19 AM) wahh kool one ah. electronics/electrical/mechanical/mechatronics/physics will be given prioritybw the telecom sector, network engineering/computer science can ah? or purely electronic eng? later no ppl then consider civil/chemical/manufacture no way computer science student or network student can enter this field, you guys never touch before circuit/power system analysis and communication electronics also |
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its all about how you sell yourself during interview :[
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engineers all same la..unless u graduate from world's top 20 unis ur starting salary all peanuts..
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QUOTE(lok3i @ May 20 2011, 06:57 PM) my friends, 2 guys and 1 girl working for JKR (contract) ur fren is useless lorr..work in govt failed already..how to work in private?the girl work there 1st but the 2 guys resign 1st... workload very very high mang...not worth a single cent.. govt = paperwork engineer This post has been edited by feekle: May 21 2011, 08:11 AM |
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QUOTE(kai_rel @ May 21 2011, 12:15 AM) hmm oil & gas is the main attraction here eh, yep starting from 1st page, people concentrating on O&G, (there are OGA exhibition in coming months or 2)telecom's sector does offer good pay for degree holder that entitle you the job position of an engineer. equipment vendors 4k++ (ericsson, alcatel lucent, nokia siemens & such) operators like maxis, digi, celcom etc cheaper abit 3k++ if you're damn good with a lil bit of experience can get more. further along the line become a specialist & 5 digits salary is easy. last time i was working in a vendor my senior engineer is paid RM30k monthly... now in US working for AT&T for only god knows USD??k per month & telco industry.... no one from power industry.... or maybe not so popular in malaysia...??? |
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QUOTE(viper88 @ May 20 2011, 11:55 AM) Most fresh grad engineer starting salary RM 2500 - 2800.. now fresh grad engineer is 2.8k to 3.2k and what u say is right.. Work for 10 years..increment abt 5% per yr .. salary abt RM5K oni.. If smart.. alwys jump company or get promoted maybe can get about 7-8K la... 10K oso possible all dpds on company and oso ur boss la. if he likes ur work.. can up fast.. and $$ oso go up faster.. but majority still stuck at RM5k range... by age 30.. |
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2.8 -3.2k also depends what field... i doubt civil engineer can get that
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May 21 2011, 12:10 PM
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May 21 2011, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ May 21 2011, 12:27 AM) and yeah u r very matured since u know it all along ...so u butthurt coz ppl say EE is not tat important in o&g? Aiyoo pls don't make a fool of yourself lah. There's nowhere in the comment I said I'm mature nor I'm butthurt. Like I mention, I already knew EE is not in the Hot Market now. Gosh why do I have to repeat myself again and again? This post has been edited by LynnZed: May 21 2011, 12:11 PM |
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May 21 2011, 12:15 PM
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May 21 2011, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(kai_rel @ May 20 2011, 11:15 PM) hmm oil & gas is the main attraction here eh, Yeah agree with u telecom's sector does offer good pay for degree holder that entitle you the job position of an engineer. equipment vendors 4k++ (ericsson, alcatel lucent, nokia siemens & such) operators like maxis, digi, celcom etc cheaper abit 3k++ if you're damn good with a lil bit of experience can get more. further along the line become a specialist & 5 digits salary is easy. last time i was working in a vendor my senior engineer is paid RM30k monthly... now in US working for AT&T for only god knows USD??k per month |
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May 21 2011, 02:44 PM
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We risk our lives in our line of work and our lives are only worth this much.
We risk our lives to ensure public safety and our skills are only worth this much. |
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May 21 2011, 02:56 PM
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No R&D engineers here ?
Sad. |
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May 21 2011, 03:24 PM
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May 21 2011, 03:46 PM
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off topic a bit..
how about software engineer? Is the pay good? |
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May 21 2011, 03:52 PM
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May 22 2011, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(ebay @ May 21 2011, 02:19 AM) wahh kool one ah. bw the telecom sector, network engineering/computer science can ah? or purely electronic eng? QUOTE(thken @ May 21 2011, 02:50 AM) electronics/electrical/mechanical/mechatronics/physics will be given priority actually individual with network engineering or computer science are more than welcome to join. the telecom's sector are moving towards IP implementation with their core network. later no ppl then consider civil/chemical/manufacture no way computer science student or network student can enter this field, you guys never touch before circuit/power system analysis and communication electronics also just apply who knows you're in luck. i'm comtemplating doing technical cert such as CCNA & CCNP rather than continue M.Eng but doing B.Eng pun sudah sakit. QUOTE(me_ai @ May 21 2011, 10:51 AM) yep starting from 1st page, people concentrating on O&G, (there are OGA exhibition in coming months or 2) its popular but not so glamour as oil & gas lah kawan. currently i work in the telco sector & during work met a lot of electrical engineers. TNB, consultants, equipment vendors & contractors. Stay long enough the I.R title will be yours heheh.& telco industry.... no one from power industry.... or maybe not so popular in malaysia...??? QUOTE(LynnZed @ May 21 2011, 12:18 PM) Yeah agree with u Oh hey there fellow ex-ALU. What a small world. Was there for a while as an intern & contract staff for a few months.anyway i'm a fresh grad in E&E, there's a lot of job in malaysia. keep on sending your resume's guys haha. last year was crazy for me as i went for job interviews in north, south, east & west of the peninsular. This post has been edited by kai_rel: May 22 2011, 10:49 PM |
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May 22 2011, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(kai_rel @ May 22 2011, 11:44 PM) actually individual with network engineering or computer science are more than welcome to join. the telecom's sector are moving towards IP implementation with their core network. not in TNB actually...just apply who knows you're in luck. i'm comtemplating doing technical cert such as CCNA & CCNP rather than continue M.Eng but doing B.Eng pun sudah sakit. its popular but not so glamour as oil & gas lah kawan. currently i work in the telco sector & during work met a lot of electrical engineers. TNB, consultants, equipment vendors & contractors. Stay long enough the I.R title will be yours heheh. Oh hey there fellow ex-ALU. What a small world. Was there for a while as an intern for a few months. anyway i'm a fresh grad in E&E, there's a lot of job in malaysia. keep on sending your resume's guys haha. last year was crazy for me as i went for job interviews in north, south, east & west of the peninsular. yes, lot of TNB senior eng, with Ir. title... |
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May 22 2011, 11:44 PM
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Im in power industry..
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May 23 2011, 12:29 AM
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i don't know you guys thinking.. but for me, overseas job is only solution. Many Malaysian here and they are doing very well
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May 23 2011, 01:01 AM
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control vs microelectronic. which 1 has the higher pay?
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May 23 2011, 01:08 AM
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hi can i ask something,
how about eng electronic and communication ? how about their sector? |
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May 23 2011, 10:26 AM
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Why become high level kuli and make someone else rich? I know 3 engineers who quit their jobs and form a company. Quite a gamble, they design, build and market their own products. Just need one of the products to sell really well and they are set for life. Struggling now but sales picking up and expanding.
These are some of the things engineers who quit their jobs can do: Fast moving tracked vehicles, now a TV show and sell to many clients. ![]() EV with 200 horsepower motor 0-100 km/h in less than 4 secs , now used by Tesla. ![]() This post has been edited by KarchKiraly: May 23 2011, 10:32 AM |
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