hi everyone, what do you think of investing in cyberjaya area??? A lot of properties is coming up such as shaftbury, d'pulze, the arc, domain, mirage lake & etc.... Is there any potential in the future?
Right now, when we mention about cyberjaya, no one has interest in it(investment) unless for your own stay(maybe the area is quite safe and it's cyberjaya address).

any comments? thks all

by current population... oversupply is predicted upon completion of all these in 3 years.

Dun think the demand will grow so fast...

i prefer putrajaya than cyber..as now many properties in progress especially from mah sing group

OVERSUPPLY OVERSUPPLY OVERSUPPLY OVERSUPPLY... A scary word in property investment...

oversupply or OVER-price ....

not a good idea to invest huh??

in other words....is...

OVERDEMAND on cheap property
OVERSUPPLY on expensive property

OVERSUPPLY yet sold out like hot cakes. This one I don't understand.
Was thinking of buying but the price range is out of my reach.

This post has been edited by wu ming: May 22 2011, 07:50 AM

Cyberjaya/Putrajaya property prices are too played up.. it is supported by hype more than actual demand. No worry on property price collapse though as it is supported by big quasi government corporations... But if you have invested, you might have a hard time to turn it back into cash though..

this is nice capital always in priority

hmmm this one hard to predict whether cyber will be another city like puchong. ROI property there is like 50:50 bet. i working there and yes, i see many companies moving there.

Hi, I'm not sure how true is this, but heard tat quite alot buyer not purchase for investment...
for landed property like summergalde/symphony etc...mostly buyer feedback actually bought for own stay..

some of current/ future project @ cyber

D'Pulze
Shaftsbury Square, Cyberjaya, Mixed Commercial & Residential Dev
Garden Plaza - Serviced Suites
Garden Residence - Resort Homes
Symphony Park
Symphony Hills
Serin Residency
Domain 4
SOHO @ Selangor Science Park 2
D'Cassia apartment
Mirage By The Lake
the ARC Residences apartment
Trillium Resort Residence @Perdana LakeView East, Cyberjaya
The Place @ Cyberjaya
SETIA ECO GLADES @ CYBERJAYA, by SP Setia
PRIMERA SUITE - SOHO
My Diva Homes
affordable homes by cyberview

I guess will oversupply by 2013

total units after completion of all these projects will be around how many??
+ the current available units there..... will be a lot

I bought one unit @ Serin Residency..

Not for investment, but for own stay..

and how many University there? just a little, and do remember at cyberjaya already have cyberia, neo domain 1, neo domain 2, neo domain 3...

but whats up with all the development? did developer see something we cant see?

or developer taking an advantage of BBB mode now?

Hi, perhaps KL/PJ are now too "packed", as ppl getting more and more nowadays...Government encourage developers helping them to "migrate" some resident over there? who knows...

Bad Point.
1. too expensive for people to buy. Not many or none affordable houses for government staff. but can government staff got quarters.
2. lack of public transportation in that area. Putrajaya transportation better a bit.
3. Too dependent on Universities student such as Lim Kok Wing, Multimedia University. Cyberjaya medical universities.
All private U, if recession, student will drop, so does the rental market.

its too far..

Better just by Cyberia condo and rent out to students....proven and high rental yields...can get for under 300k and rent for at least 1.5k-2k

I hv been follow up before Shaftsbury launch,d'puzzle...at last no step in after drive through the surrounding area...i still can remember the 'sweet talk' by Shaftsbury SA....who sd no one interest in investment when talk abt cyberjaya...the price shoot up damn much becos of these investors if u notice...overall i thk Shaftsbury will take more advantage in term of location and the most faster complete (if follow SnP date)to catch up the tenants first....

Cyberjaya seems like a 50/50 thing....any other pros have input in this matter , I would like to know as well.

Cyberjaya has a population of 41000 by day and 14000 by night. That means alot of people is working there and not staying in Cyberjaya. There will be 4000 units launching from now to 2014 in Cyberjaya. Putrajaya will be launching a series of shoplots soon im not sure where.

For the last 2-3 years CBD 2 price increase from RM800k-1.8k to RM3m-6m. NeoCyber Shops frm RM500k to RM700-RM900k. NeoCyber RM150k apartment rental is RM1300- RM1500. Lakeview East bungalow was RM80psf now its RM155 (iproperty). CBD 1 rental is around RM16k for 5 storeys.

The price is too much but still people is buying..

If only theres a MidValley with GSC or TGV in Cyberjaya to attract people. Alamanda Putrajaya is too far..

i work in cyberjaya..my comp has about 1500 employees....but i think less than 3% staying in cyber
staying in cyber mostly were students from those uni and colleges..for those who invest in cyber, don't think you can yield high rental or able to resell your property with high return after 2013...

just my 2 cents

seems so many launches here...wonder pple are really ready to stay in such a quiet town?

Looking at it, still majority of people doesn't live in Cyberjaya, and i believe this is mainly due to lack of available property in cyberjaya. Even with 4000 units available by 2013, i do not think that it is sufficient to cover the extra population of 27,000. And by 2013, these numbers could have already increase. Based on this facts, i really think that people should invest in Cyberjaya, as the demands is surely there. What people should consider is, whether the property is resonable in price, as the price is very expensive now. selling maybe around 700 psft. Those early buyer will be lucking as some buy at a price of ard 300 - 400 psft, which surely a good investment.

The ratio of 'affordable' home vs. million-dollar home in Cyberjaya is exactly like the average ratio of MD/CEO vs. executive in a Co. Midlevel income earner still finding hard to buy one for own stay here.. and amenities are rare here too. Do you think there are so many CEO/MD here in CJ that wanna buy/stay-in in cyberjaya?

we need more medium cost properties and more amenities here to boost the population.. why hasn't this been executed since then?

I am quite blown away by your words and facts.. Its just that May I know where do you get all these info's?
Because you might be the big reason for me to purchase a property in Cyberjaya very soon...

you can Google. You can also search wikipedia, lots of information there. I have been to MPSJ building also to get the masterplan. FYI, i have purchased Serin abt 1 and half year ago. The price has gone up abt 30% since then. I have checked with MPSJ and based on their master planning, there ain't be many space left for residential devlopment, after completion of current property projects. Just one area next to HP there, where they are currently extending the road (ops Symphony Hill area).

So even if the demand not as great after all these properties completed, it will eventually, as not many land for residential. even with the ratio, not everyone can live in cyberjaya. this also means that you should look at seri kembangan area also for investment, as it is the closest to cyberjaya.

You should go to MPSJ to get more info, if you really keen on buying property in cyberjaya.

MP Sepang , not MPSJ (Subang Jaya).

In fact there are plenty of theresidential area but not at the heart of Cyberjaya ..... further south of cyberjaya, there will be more affordable housing .

Once the commercial or retail pick up, they will need more companies to be coming in to operate within Cyberjaya.

Ya your right. the office is near Pusat Komuniti Taman Tasik Cyberjaya.

If many companies there and ppl buy the propert for investment only. Then u will find the town will turn out a ghost town at night. If there are more ppl buying the property for their own staying rather than investment leave them vacant then it will become a good township. Some time low density is good but not too extreme low. Must have a balance. I can see it may take some time for getting ppl's confidence to stay there.

This post has been edited by SKfolk: Mar 9 2012, 04:59 PM

a lot of people talk about ghost town .... but what is a ghost town...no one living there?? or less activities/establishment at night?

Back to the main topic....people buy to invest for 2 reasons : rental and flip. I dont think Cyberjaya will be a ghost town....

First, there are lot of companies there already....a number of those companies are running 24x7....so, there are people within the town be it in the morning or evening. Well, in my opinion, there are really a lot of condo/service apartment launched since 1-2 years ago, easily 4000+, while landed about few hundred to 1000. Of course, it will takes time to populate the place like many other new project... if the occupancy rate reach more than 80 percent within 1 year after VP, that is already a very good achievement to a certain extend.

So, it is back to you definition of ghost town again....many areas are so populated with people during weekday, but suddenly become very quite during the weekend, especially those office area or major commercial/factory area. This also happen in manuy countries....and you cant even find food during the weekend, because most restaurants are closed.

In comparison, Cyberjaya has got the student population and those 24x7 operation, so, it will not be too quite to a certain extend......depends on you.....i used to mentioned that in many part of Shah Alam, putra heights, it was so quiet at night.....but why not, i guess those people like it as long as the occupancy reach a certain threshold....of course if less than 10% of houses are occupied over several years, then it will be really scary especially with today security issues...

I do not think that it is a ghost towm. It is pretty ok as it is.I bought Serin for my own stay. And i would like it to be quiet as it is. I do hope in future that they don't add any night club or pub in cyberjaya.

It is a place to work during day time, recreational in the evening, and relax at night.

But cyberjaya lacks of shops and the few existing shops are not running business not relating to household but they r office.

That's true.....well you might need to wait for a while.....especially for own stay and if you need all the shops......

got club already at NEO area. basically all the african student hangout there. I love Domain 3 though.

Yes, I agree, it just takes time.

I'm not buying the ghost town claims. I see far more options for food in cyber compared to other places which are also doing well (in terms of property appreciation). Putra heights and bandar saujana putra are good examples

Guys, whats the reasonable psf for a commercial shoplot around Cyberjaya?

I don't think cyberjaya is a ghost town nowadays. Yes, maybe there's not much entertainment or shops currently, but there are shops which are just enough to live there. It's not like u will spend ur entire day at a shopping mall everyday. What i need is a township which is quite n calm for my family. N yes, I did bought one of the condo unit there which r still under development for my own stay.

Agree. With All the shops selling basic household and the amenities will be good enough. The shopping mall a little bit far away is better don want mess up the development. Like upcoming IOI CITY MALL which is quite good. If it is concept like 1 Utama that will be good business. One north one south.Smart IOI don sell the mall units but lease out.

This post has been edited by SKfolk: Mar 10 2012, 12:02 PM

Nice!! Love your sharing. That's really a lot of potential in Cyberjaya!

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Added on March 26, 2012, 12:13 amNeed a shopping mall, by then will be boom town Charlie!


This post has been edited by Bettymui: Mar 26 2012, 12:13 AM

Yeah for now, but when there is a demand , there will always be (over) supply . (these is the business nature in malaysia) . People always said no shopping in cyber , developer propose to build 3 mall (or more) in same vicinity. Namely Galleria , Pangaea ,D pulse (as far as i know these is the smallest mall among the other, size like pearl point located in klang lama). Why? coz if u put yourself in a shoe as the one who want to do business / doing new business , you choose to open a business where competition is less and have high demand... but i can't see that happen in puchong 101 boulevard .. 5 pub open there... coz malaysian is like a copycat, they see other people (the library and overtime) make money there, then they follow open brew..and new one at the corner...etc..etc. Another example like desa sri hartamas ... few years back there is only one massage centre there, but now 10 finger also can't count finish. Same thing will happen in Cyberjaya, as long as one make money there will be 10 same business there. No cinema? , no worries, GSC boss have not yet plan to retired anytime soon

Back to property talk , when there's land avail the price is cheap, but it wasn't the case in Cyberjaya . Why? let me explain , coz even though there is land but it was own by one company Setia haruman . make no mistake , they build a few house but sale a lot of land , and those companies bidding for those land.The property expensive coz of the land they bought expensive and even you have money they don't just sell it to you... they tell you what you can build and what you can't build in those land and they set a restriction (don't know how many % of those land must be for landscape purposed)if you notice all the property image , they have beautiful garden (only for residential unit not commercial , but i might be wrong) and yes, some land is for commercial some for residential some they reserve it for green .Setia Haruman control it. (why there is still 3 mall then? )

Ever heard of Quill building? those are the building for those company like Dell, HP,BMW,Shell,HSBC, NTT , IBM .. etc , there is 19 Quill building (not sure how many in total coz I didn't count them one by one. you can see the quill number from outside of the building) . Each of these Quill building had sign a type of contract with the government which enable them to enjoy special privilege like tax and so on , some contract enable them not to be bind by Malaysian labour law and they can follow their own country law like they can follow public holiday in their country UK, Japan, etc.. (it's sux cost I work for one of those company and these info was reveal to me by some one who held a high post in my company, He had resign though . So correct me if I'm wrong). And each of these building can fetch around minimum 1000 ++ worker which the lowest position in the company can easily earn minimum RM1800++ per month (did i said minimum?)well maximum like those top boss in my company can earn (in US dollar) 5 - 6 figures per mth (but they aren't local anyway , so they wont buy a house there... if they want , I hope they don't coz people like them make the property price rocket)

Now there is currently 2 Uni and a College there.. But try google UIM now.. and Madinah Uni and have anyone heard of Selangor science park 2? Selangor science park one is Damansara itself. History tend to repeat it self... Like Brickfields , Mont Kiara , Hartamas , Damansara ... and so on, Once upon a time , which of these area isn't a forest? (except Brickfields). Brickfields boom coz of government , Mont Kiara and Hartamas boom coz of international school and rich foreigner there , and Damansara coz of Selangor science park one.. Cyberjaya have all those 4 thing in one ( 4 in one they call it).

Finally mind you guys... I saw a lots of troll in lowyat forum ... Like I saw a message keep telling D pulse is the best investment coz got shopping hotel in centre of cyberjaya with cinema go for it,it's cheap and so on, but they sell it averagely RM 600 PSF.. No doubt that person is an agent who sell for Dpulse , dun get tricked and I saw someone from setia haruman as well in these very forum.Mind you guys, sometimes people who open forum like these is from developer itself (they call them market surveyor) who is still surveying the market need and wish to see what buyer want buy and so on.

I have follow on cyberjaya development for 1 years now .. I get all those info by goggling and try google these ( skyscrapper cyberjaya) it have all the photo and new project comin up from cyber. I haven't own a unit yet but I had found my own ideal property in cyberjaya, waiting for it to be launch. So for those who doesn't wish to stay in Cyber please find somewhere else to invest the property price which is already high now really shoot up kaw kaw coz of you guys.(I don't have any house yet)

Starbucks underconstruction, beside Maybank n Cimb

Nandos under construction at the Cottage Walk, same row with KFC and Pizza Hut.
ppl who used to work in Cyberjaya in the past, when they came again, are surprised by the development and the population nowadays. i don't know what are ppl talking about ghost town and lack of ppl living here.
price still expensive though.

this speaks a lot of facts...

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my bestie just started to work in cyberjaya for few months.. Finance Analyst for mnc company, she mentioned average income in cyberjaya above 4k, for senior exec easily earn more than 6k.. But there is not much choice to dine in this area, if more choyuk dining option, such as kim gary, definitely rake in dozen dough.. IMHO, the infra of Cyber itself is good, but need time to be matured, no way can be labelled as ghost town this days.. but still need more MNC to come in.. At this point of time, Bukit Jalil will be better choice as it more centralize and considerably short distant to Cyberjaya..

i hav been here for 10years, sorry, the progress is snail pace and it is not suppose to be.. KFC, Pizza Hut has nothing to shout about bcos they are everywhere and only recent years appear in cyberjaya, starbucks now only start construction..
areas like puchong had outpaced cyberjaya by a mile.. dont forget, cyberjaya was a big agenda by the government, and the outcome is not as expected..

Cyberjaya will continue to be growing but more slowly compared to other locations simply because there is lack of night life. After working hour, just track the net traffic of the place, is it going in or is it going out ? More MNCs do not help much. They must fix the reasons why there is lack of night commercial activities at night.

Compared to any other new-ish location, Cyberjaya has many good fundamentals. Lots of employment opportunities at what our govt would call 'high income', plenty of eateries, reasonable proximity to the city (40 mins), and a large student community. If this was any other location in the country, people will be saying that props here are a good buy.

Property in puchong will not get anymore appreciation , the value had almost max out , but if you interested in rental investment , can consider shoplot at pusat bandar puchong and apartment at puchong jaya coz the LRT project (pasarana) station is just beside 101 mall and another one at the hindu temple beside bandar puteri.Mind you the traffic which is bad now will not getting better once the LRT is up. I know u can get 6 - 7 % ROI and after LRT up property value might increase slightly.

All the same, for property investment there is alt of goal. Some opt for Appreciation , rental , and flipping and you need to know how long you willing to hold the property 5 years or 10 years ?

Cyberjaya is a place where I (personally) saw the potential in 8 years and the value will be higher than the property in damansara. The Government do play a role in property price, for example cyberjaya master plan had been submitted and be chosen as city of the future in japan recently ( at least few hundred japanese who lived in japan know the name Cyberjaya now , but how about Puchong?)


http://www.theborneopost.com/2012/02/20/cy...futurecities-2/

economy flop in 1997 ( when cyberjaya presented by Tun Dr M.) in 2006-2007 economy flop again coz some stupid America bank and that's what hinder the Cyberjaya development and not the outcome it's not expected but the progress isn't as expected but now as government tend to change all it's existing HQ from kuala lumpur to putrajaya , they will certainly waste (i mean allocate , really!!) tonne of tax payer money in that region (Serdang,Dengkil,Puchong,Cyberjaya and possibly Nilai and government did approve LRT project in puchong yes?) so the progress is there now in Cyber unless the government change hand then the plan might be different. So there is 5 area worth long term investment but the return varies.


Btw dun take my word seriously, i just blow water . Sorry if i offended anyone.

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Added on April 26, 2012, 11:06 amA very quick question , do you guys know where is the new puchong LRT line will be extended in the future (might be 50 years from now)? I saw it's end at bandar puteri puchong which is heading to serdang , putrajaya and cyberjaya area

Just my 2 cent, I saw a land been cleared beside 101 mall puchong (and they building something , from out side can see the barrier with the logo Prasarana) my instinct told me any property within 5 KM radius from that land is worth buying. The owner of 101 boulevard shop lot is really lucky *******

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Apr 26 2012, 11:06 AM

US subprime crisis happen in 2008-2009, not 2006-2007.. interesting, why the subprime didnt hinder much else where in KV and only hinder Cyberjaya while other location took off nicely??

the objective of Cyberjaya is low density, that is why you dont see much high rise building around.. comparing to Damasara, high density means high population that serves as customer base for the commercial around the area that keeps that region vibrant all day long..
will Cyberjaya get high density like Damasara? very unlikely since the objective of the area is "City in Green" with lower population per acre.. moreover, cyberjaya flagship zone is not really that big..

CBD will still be PJ and Kuala Lumpur, those I dont see how Damansara can stop progressing..

talking about putrajaya.. government servant stay in Bangi, Kajang which explain why the rapid booming of these housing area in last few years..
will government servant stay in Cyberjaya? you have no idea what sort of price tag they are selling in Cyberjaya now...
lets talk about facts.. Majority of government servants are Malay community who prefer to have larger houses to accomodate their family.. will they buy a 600sqft Pangea or 500sqft Garden Plaza to stay? how about buying a 900k terrace in Garden Residence or 1 mil Summer Glades?.. they rather just stay in near by Kajang Bangi Puchong Serdang..

my 2 cents..

for rental investment is go..but for flipping and buy and sell investment is overprice and supply..agree with all..

By THO XIN YI
thoxinyi@thestar.com.my
Photos by LOW BOON TAT and courtesy of Cyberview Sdn Bhd | Apr 27, 2012
A milestone development
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May 17, 1997, was a historic day for Cyberjaya.

On that day 15 years ago, then Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad launched the IT-themed city.

As of 2011, Cyberjaya has received investments totalling RM12.42bil.

Cyberview Sdn Bhd managing director Hafidz Hashim revealed that investments in Cyberjaya totalled RM3.12bil in 2010, and RM3.1bil in 2011.

“We are projecting RM3.84bil for 2012,” he added.

Cyberview, which was established in October 1996, shoulders the responsibility of spearheading development in Cyberjaya, the nucleus of the Multimedia Super Corridor (MSC).

Its tasks include ensuring Cyberjaya is developed in accordance with MSC guidelines, providing assistance and supporting joint activities with organisations in Cyberjaya, attending to land administration matters, and providing advice to the government on MSC and Cyberjaya development matters.

“Of the investment value in 2011, enterprise investment amounted to RM522.6mil while residential investment came up to RM2.48bil,” Hafidz said.

In 2010 82.5ha of land in Cyberjaya was for sold for RM404.3mil. Last year the sale land tripled to reach RM1.23bil for 261.5ha, with residential developments leading the chart at RM612.6mil, followed by commercial developments at RM395mil and enterprise at RM156.7mil.

Hafidz explained that, of the 2,816.6ha of land in Cyberjaya, only 53% is available for sale for use as residential, mixed, institutional, light industry (automotive), enterprise and commercial developments.

The rest of the land is reserved for public amenities, utilities, infrastructure and a green lung.

“As of December 2011, development in Cyberjaya is 27% complete. Thirteen percent is still under construction while 31% is still in the planning stages. We still have a balance of 29% of the land to be developed,” Hafidz revealed.

With an aim to be a global ICT hub, Cyberjaya has certainly come a long way since its inception 15 years ago.

The prominence of the city can be seen in the number of multi-national companies that have chosen to set up their global operations centres there.

“Topping the list are big names such as HSBC, Dell, HP, Ericsson and IBM.

“We have many knowledge workers here serving international markets and time zones,” he said.

The number of local and international companies in Cyberjaya has reached 621 to date, double the initial number of 302 between 1998 and 2007.

Hafidz listed safety, convenience and world-class infrastructure as some of the key points that drew the companies in.

The self-contained city emphasises the four pillars of “Live, Study, Work and Play”.

Currently it hosts five institutions of higher education — Multimedia Uni-versity, Limkokwing University of Creative Technology, Cyberjaya Univer-sity College of Medical Sciences, Cyber Putra College and Kirkby College. And Hafidz said there is more to come.

Having joined Cyberview in 2004, Hafidz has seen how Cyberjaya has grown.

“It gives me a lot of satisfaction to see Cyberjaya’s transformation and its current vibrancy. We’re looking forward to exciting years ahead,” he said.

In conjunction with its 15th anniversary celebrations, Cyberjaya has a series of activities to get the community actively involved, including a digital photography contest, writing marathon and golf tournament.

Committed to the belief that the younger generation is the future of the nation, an event called “Informa-tion on Green Technology for School Children” (iGreet Jr) is also in the pipeline.

Tomorrow, Cyberview will celebrate Earth Day at Cyberjaya Lake Gardens Community Club with corporate recycle challenge, gotong royong, colouring contest for kids, green fair and an “Adopt A Tree” programme.

For details, visit http://cyberview.com.my.

many gov servants buy and stay in and around pinggiran Putra, sungai merab,etc coz its malay reserve land. They can get 5-6k sq ft bungalow (land n house) for around = RM450K. So how can the other areas beat this

I beg to differ. I dont think the appreciation of puchong has maxed out. Try checking what is going on in Puchong. I was staying in Subang Jaya last time (that time Puchong has nothing) but now it is a totally different situation altogether because:


1) LRT coming to Puchong
2) A lot of trendy, luxury shopping malls coming- Setia Walk, The Wharf, The Millenium (all have cinemas)
3) Even Hilton Garden Hotel also coming to Puchong (The Millenium)
4) Puchong property owners are changing from middle income to high income (check out at Bandar Puteri for instance you will see Ferraris, Lamborghinis, GTRs etc). New houses also not cheap but mostly selling well.
5) Neighbouring cities also coming up (new shopping mall in Seri Kembangan- very near to Puchong. I forgot what is the name and then IOI Resort Mall, Selangor Science Park)

This post has been edited by AMINT: Apr 27 2012, 12:36 PM

as i mention , i'm following up the property price in cyberjaya for a year now last time the price psf is 300 ++ (which is high) and barely 8 mth the price psf is now at average 600.00 ++ psf ,Hence i do know the prop price there.
and yes i'm just human , not perfect, can't remember the exact year Bank of america , merrill lynch incident took place (year 2008-2009 it's still economy crisis but the peak is 2007) but all the fact economy is slumber in usa , and private developer afraid to invest such a vast amount of money in cyber not until 2010,2011 and 2012 we heard Mah Sing buying parcel of land for bla.. blaa... blaa , sp setia buying prime land... bla bla bla ... and there is list of the developer buying land there ranging from small company until those big taiko.. Coz apparently those company isn't stupid to froze their cash during financial turbulence . So you tell me why it didn't hinder cyberjaya growth? if those company buy the land say in 2006,2007,2008 - how many property u think will be in cyber by now? U think we still need to wait till 2014?

another fact 900k and 1 mil property will make that area crawl with millionaire , the rich people always like to stick together with the rich.. I can't explain it, i just can't but i can see that in hartamas, bangsar , mont kiara.... well my point is we are talking about property investment, not which place is the best to stay. we are talking which property can make the most of money we throw out . So yes it's money talk , place which is overcrowded with people didn't make the property price rocket mind you , but the quality of the resident there do

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Added on April 27, 2012, 8:57 pmyea i did mention the 4 area (puchong , dengkil , serdang ,and cyberjaya ) is worth investing coz all property there sure can gain appreciation but the only question is which one out of the four is the fastest gainer and have a higher gaining capacity ? Cyberjaya (my opinion : no fact but have a reason, property under development price shooting up not even before the project finish , and property under development have no market value , so i can't say that is the fact )

Reason why i say puchong had max out ? coz it was to complicated, full of foreigner , begger , the poor , the rich. depend on area also coz puchong is BIG , and very BIG, there is some part of puchong which i never been to before (only heard of the name).

Coz of the property price in cyber , we expect to see majority middle class and rich people living there.Foreigner? yes the rich one (including those ******* student who can jolly and clubing every weekend). Begger/homeless ? they have cyberjaya municipal who will even tow your car for you if you park it at the road side = ). No bak kut teh? (i'm chinese btw) that is a let down i would say.. but it's not like i eat it everyday .

No offense on the living social comment,I'm from poor family myself and i'm now living with foreigner as well.Just stated my opinion what is the potential i saw in cyberjaya and living social in an area do effect property price as well

Selangor science park 2 is IN cyberjaya territory (info from google map) , Damansara = selangor science park ... Puchong ? yes it is near.. cyberjaya even nearer = )

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Apr 27 2012, 09:11 PM

you are right... cyber increase from 300psft to 600psft, but bare in mind, those are new property buying from developer.. what about subsale? not proven.. unlike puchong and other area transacted subsales ..

too early to say "rich man like to stay together" as most are non completed right now... nothing is proven... lets revisit after 3 years..

Just wanted to share a bit of info here. Bak Kut Teh is available in Cyberjaya near the Domain/NeoCyber.

subsale is proven for cyberia condominimum, last year in jun , i check the bank market value for a condo unit there ,they said it's only 240000, these year march when i saw bank lelong 280000 (different unit but cyberia condo) i was stunned,coz bank lelong unit is lower than their own valuation,when i ask the banker told me their bank rate that condo for 300000 then when i check subsale from owner most of it at 280000 to 320000. Some who don't know still maintain the same price at 250000 .Overall bank valuation increase by 30k - 60k for those condo in less than a year is pretty impressive i would say coz it is really old unit with poor maintainance . cyberheight now sale at 420k ++ cyberia townvilla is depreciate last time but price increasing steadily now reach the 400k ++ mark. Of course now in cyberjaya still no shopping, night life, amusement and so on

for new unit, yes nth proven hence i didn't call that a fact . It's a gamble , u need to gamble in order to win and if we wait until it's proven , it's already too late . Even now, with price tag of 600.00 psf , It's not our game anymore. It's now open for those with money, and yes it is too late now anyway but if you can afford it, it's better then nothing . I once had a chance to grab a studio unit for 300++ psf , but i let go that chance , now i really wish if I can get those offer again...

most unit finish in 2014, let see what happen then I hope u are right so that i can sapu a unit under lelong price = )

thank you for your input, yes 600psft is not proven, not even 400 to 500psft subsale transacted proven.. and i believe those cyberia units are 800sqft to 1200sqft asking from 300 to 400psft..

unlike some other areas where subsale transacted at 400psft n i believe 500psft new launch is still do able..

yes your input has concluded well, subsale still struggling to keep pace 400psft but new launches are 600psft above, there is a huge gap between subsale n new launch..

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Added on April 29, 2012, 10:27 pmthere is already a Teow Chew porridge shop in domain as well, went there ocasionally, choyuk not bad...

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Apr 29 2012, 10:27 PM

Properties are invested for long term, last time ppl say it was a ghost place. One day when it is developed, it will increase hell a lot.

clonclusion :- Cyberjaya it's worth investing there... but now it a bit too late for the new starter .

Personal experience, i was waiting for pangaea , but when they launch paragon on 20th april , the minimum price start at 411k for 610 sq feet on the launching date it self, so i give up OSK now (those who still waiting better switch target, they will sell all cheap unit to so call vvip) and go for cyberia .... pretty lucky got a unit with 250k and rental agreement (6 more mth) for 1700++ , heard they will extend it for a year until graduation. Now only awaiting bank loan approval , If go through can get 500++ extra / mth after paying housing loan

Cyberjaya still got a lot of land to be developed, right?

very good deal, congratulations on your purchase..

Agreed, too late to go in now for new launches unless one has lot of extra cash reserve.

Yippie! Just got our dreamhouse in Cyberjaya!
There are really only three types of people:
Those who make things happen,
Those who watch things happen and then react, and
Those who say, "What happened? Should have invested here earlier though"

A very good 10 minutes presentation bout Cyberjaya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGetaKz77zM&feature=relmfu

This post has been edited by krisdafer: Jun 14 2012, 03:12 PM

That's a good price for Cyberria

I'm surprised to saw Domain 1, 762sqf selling at RM300k with tenant agreement of RM1.8k/mth. Wondering are these students that stay at Domain or foreigners?
Also found this during research http://www.cbdperdana.com/cyber_planned.html If you have no time to drop by MPSepang, this will help alot

Soul Searching for Houses~~~

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Added on June 14, 2012, 3:16 pmFeel so too, unless it's for own stay. It's a gamble for Cyberjaya new launch. haha. But sub sales going for rental seems good.

This post has been edited by shin1214: Jun 14 2012, 03:16 PM

HP Global Centre in CyberJaya is holy moly awesome!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba1es3zm3jM&feature=related

IMHO, Investing in Cyberjaya has its own risks and rewards.

The pros of cyber
1.) A growing working population & tax incentives for foreign companies to operate here. Already have >50 MNC companies operating in Cyber.
2.) Good infrastructure already build. Road, Highways, drainage, Fiber optic cable, etc. MEX highway is a +.
3.) Government school, International School, University, Colleges already build
4.) Clearer blue print and development plans by setia haruman as annouced recently, future RM20bil investment.
5.) Better plan than other areas, due to having a single master planner.
6.) Developments in Puchong & Serdang have connected to Cyber.
7.) Quality of population in Cyber, mostly graduates and profesisonals. Potential of truning into anoterh TTDI, BU. Medium to high income group.

Risks
1.) lack of amenities and entertainment, but with D'Pulze shopping mall up, i believe more will join in, population attracts business, business attract population.
2.) Return on investment will be longer as it needs time to "move" people in.
3.) Higher entry cost coupled with a risk of sudden surge in property supply may pull rental down, but it depends on how strong the demand is especially when HP is already operating in cyber with not enough accomodation to supply at this moment.

In short, is an upcoming township, good for own stay and for investment may need to hold for a little longer for best return (provided you can rent it out at good rate).

owner staying in cyber here...pretty happy with recent development ).... but i beg gomen pls dont sell the land here cheap...i duwan this place become no class place and crowded with low quality ppl like equine park seri kembangan....lol...i duwan jam like all other area in klang valley....rental income is pretty good for me.....bought at 275k 7-8 years back n getting rental at 1.2k++ even with me taking 2 roomin da house....gonna get married next year n totally move out....my unit rental shoot up to 2k-2.1k per month lol ....i suggest better investor look for sub sale than new launch....the rate per sqf is betterand the rental is so darn strong....sub sale can still get 290-350 per sqf....

bro where u reckon i should invest? any good place in cyberjaya?

got a place in taman tasik prima, puchong and looking to get another 1 soon within 6 mnths down the line

ur budget? better go for proper condo with size at least more than 1k sqf.... sub sale look around cyberia smarthome, cyberia crescent 1 and 2....if ur a bit bold, can try take on 1storey landed house in bandar pinggiran cyber just behind vega residencyunder construction studio), but title is leasehold land but currently sell at 240k-260k for 1050sqf built up....appreciation would be slower there as it is in selangor science park 2 (expect to hold more than 3-5 years?) but its the most cheapest landed property u can get here....

im a conservative in this type of investing...i believe a properly size condo unit for the best rental income rate, a landed house for the best capital appreciation..... a studio apartment with title 'service apartment' is a big no no for me....its like the current hype thats not gonna last long....summore the electricity bill of those studio follow commercial tariff and thats gonna be killing....

It is known that cyberjaya will be a hot place. Just a matter of when only. The videoclip is good stating the facilities that are already there. But where is the cyberjaya city centre videoclip? I have seen 1 but dunno why now no longer there in youtube. Showing multiple modern, high tech designed park with beautiful fountains everywhere over looking skypark cyberjaya. that video really caught my attention.

This post has been edited by AMINT: Sep 20 2012, 10:56 PM

budget wise i am thinking no more than 400k la..

as of now, i am not sure how the rental demand is for cyberjaya but definitely on the bright side. I must say, Cyberjaya is pretty interesting.. and with the soaring price setia alam is selling at the moment, i reckon cyberjaya has the edge.

thanks btw!

guys wad do u think of putrajaya? there are many beautiful buildings there, a mall, and other amenities such as schools, police stations etc... any idea of the price appreciation compared to cyberjaya?

IMHO, putrajaya appreciation very slow.

If you would like to invest, invest to those developing area, eg. Cyberjaya. This area is very potential, like recent project Galleria @ Glomac. A centre location of cyberjaya. Or MCT Skypark @ Cyberjaya SOHO /SOFO.

I recently bought a retail office lot at Cyber Galleria 1st floor. The price is still reasonable and expect to growth 50% after completion.

Hopefully the wish comes true.

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Added on October 1, 2012, 11:13 pmSifu always tell me. When invest a property, buy type of property that the areas need, not the type of property that you need. If you bought a condo but the area need retail, of coz the condo value growth not faster than retail. simple!!

This post has been edited by Spritzz: Oct 1 2012, 11:13 PM

Do they still have ground floor unit facing main road bro???

i moved in CJ oct 2011 and notice that the changes are tremendous ....u hv 2 big malls coming out like skypark and pangae...plus several others like dpulze, the place, cbd 3rd phase, gardenview plaza...u also c so many big mamak stall (like original kayu) and fast food shop open up in 1 township, another few hundred shops completed at Glomac CJ and biz starts to move in...+ so many service apartments and high end landed properties on the way and latest 1 more petronas station will be opened up next to The Place plaza...the development of CJ is just the opposite of many other township...here there build the road 1st then IT firm 4lo by biz centre and last residential properties. That y u dont c many CJ residents but i can tell u over the yr I was here...i c many chinese begin to jam the Cyberjaya Lake Park in the evening...and many more chinese food stall coming in....When more chinese are in..then u know what will happen to the property prices there....esp this township wi such a wonderful environment.

BBB mode for commercial shoplot or ground floor retails!

Is there any cinema in skypark and pangae mall?

Cinema ll come in first at dpulze which supposed to b vped next year.

cinema in skypark= yes. skypark will be the landmark of cbj. no doubt

Swee!

Lagi Swee!

More to come. Yeah.

Another commercial building in Cyberjaya definitely will make Cyberjaya even hotter!
http://tamarindsq.com/index.html

Note - Still wonder what's Setia Haruman plan to have few more value added factors for ppl to consider Cyber?
How to make it extraordinary and outstanding than other city???
really curious to know how cyber will ends up?

should be Cyberview + Setia Haruman nowadays.

Premium outlet n theme park, lolz

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Added on November 18, 2012, 12:31 am5 stars hotel and pubs/cafes like clarke quay singapore lolz... With these, ang mo (mat salleh) sure come.

This post has been edited by noblebaby: Nov 18 2012, 12:31 AM

lately a lot of cbj threads conquering lowyat.net.

Cyberjaya is growing?

growing interest on cbj. I have asked this question in the forum before: Not many good locations for new,landed, freehold and g&g available now. some bashed me cukup2 saying still got a lot. but if this wasnt true, why would anybody look into cbj? huhu. southern puchong and cbj is gaining one of the highest momentum now.