Starbucks underconstruction, beside Maybank n Cimb
Investment cyberjaya/putrajaya, investment good???
Investment cyberjaya/putrajaya, investment good???
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Apr 10 2012, 12:10 AM
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Starbucks underconstruction, beside Maybank n Cimb
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Apr 26 2012, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(abu_adi @ Apr 17 2012, 12:19 PM) Nandos under construction at the Cottage Walk, same row with KFC and Pizza Hut. i hav been here for 10years, sorry, the progress is snail pace and it is not suppose to be.. KFC, Pizza Hut has nothing to shout about bcos they are everywhere and only recent years appear in cyberjaya, starbucks now only start construction..ppl who used to work in Cyberjaya in the past, when they came again, are surprised by the development and the population nowadays. i don't know what are ppl talking about ghost town and lack of ppl living here. price still expensive though. areas like puchong had outpaced cyberjaya by a mile.. dont forget, cyberjaya was a big agenda by the government, and the outcome is not as expected.. |
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Apr 26 2012, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Apr 26 2012, 10:54 AM) Property in puchong will not get anymore appreciation , the value had almost max out , but if you interested in rental investment , can consider shoplot at pusat bandar puchong and apartment at puchong jaya coz the LRT project (pasarana) station is just beside 101 mall and another one at the hindu temple beside bandar puteri.Mind you the traffic which is bad now will not getting better once the LRT is up. I know u can get 6 - 7 % ROI and after LRT up property value might increase slightly. US subprime crisis happen in 2008-2009, not 2006-2007.. interesting, why the subprime didnt hinder much else where in KV and only hinder Cyberjaya while other location took off nicely??All the same, for property investment there is alt of goal. Some opt for Appreciation , rental , and flipping and you need to know how long you willing to hold the property 5 years or 10 years ? Cyberjaya is a place where I (personally) saw the potential in 8 years and the value will be higher than the property in damansara. The Government do play a role in property price, for example cyberjaya master plan had been submitted and be chosen as city of the future in japan recently ( at least few hundred japanese who lived in japan know the name Cyberjaya now , but how about Puchong?) http://www.theborneopost.com/2012/02/20/cy...futurecities-2/ economy flop in 1997 ( when cyberjaya presented by Tun Dr M.) in 2006-2007 economy flop again coz some stupid America bank and that's what hinder the Cyberjaya development and not the outcome it's not expected but the progress isn't as expected but now as government tend to change all it's existing HQ from kuala lumpur to putrajaya , they will certainly waste (i mean allocate , really!!) tonne of tax payer money in that region (Serdang,Dengkil,Puchong,Cyberjaya and possibly Nilai and government did approve LRT project in puchong yes?) so the progress is there now in Cyber unless the government change hand then the plan might be different. So there is 5 area worth long term investment but the return varies. Btw dun take my word seriously, i just blow water . Sorry if i offended anyone. the objective of Cyberjaya is low density, that is why you dont see much high rise building around.. comparing to Damasara, high density means high population that serves as customer base for the commercial around the area that keeps that region vibrant all day long.. will Cyberjaya get high density like Damasara? very unlikely since the objective of the area is "City in Green" with lower population per acre.. moreover, cyberjaya flagship zone is not really that big.. CBD will still be PJ and Kuala Lumpur, those I dont see how Damansara can stop progressing.. talking about putrajaya.. government servant stay in Bangi, Kajang which explain why the rapid booming of these housing area in last few years.. will government servant stay in Cyberjaya? you have no idea what sort of price tag they are selling in Cyberjaya now... lets talk about facts.. Majority of government servants are Malay community who prefer to have larger houses to accomodate their family.. will they buy a 600sqft Pangea or 500sqft Garden Plaza to stay? how about buying a 900k terrace in Garden Residence or 1 mil Summer Glades?.. they rather just stay in near by Kajang Bangi Puchong Serdang.. my 2 cents.. |
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Apr 27 2012, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Apr 27 2012, 08:33 PM) as i mention , i'm following up the property price in cyberjaya for a year now last time the price psf is 300 ++ (which is high) and barely 8 mth the price psf is now at average 600.00 ++ psf ,Hence i do know the prop price there. you are right... cyber increase from 300psft to 600psft, but bare in mind, those are new property buying from developer.. what about subsale? not proven.. unlike puchong and other area transacted subsales ..and yes i'm just human , not perfect, can't remember the exact year Bank of america , merrill lynch incident took place (year 2008-2009 it's still economy crisis but the peak is 2007) but all the fact economy is slumber in usa , and private developer afraid to invest such a vast amount of money in cyber not until 2010,2011 and 2012 we heard Mah Sing buying parcel of land for bla.. blaa... blaa , sp setia buying prime land... bla bla bla ... and there is list of the developer buying land there ranging from small company until those big taiko.. Coz apparently those company isn't stupid to froze their cash during financial turbulence . So you tell me why it didn't hinder cyberjaya growth? if those company buy the land say in 2006,2007,2008 - how many property u think will be in cyber by now? U think we still need to wait till 2014? another fact 900k and 1 mil property will make that area crawl with millionaire , the rich people always like to stick together with the rich.. I can't explain it, i just can't but i can see that in hartamas, bangsar , mont kiara.... well my point is we are talking about property investment, not which place is the best to stay. we are talking which property can make the most of money we throw out . So yes it's money talk , place which is overcrowded with people didn't make the property price rocket mind you , but the quality of the resident there do Added on April 27, 2012, 8:57 pm yea i did mention the 4 area (puchong , dengkil , serdang ,and cyberjaya ) is worth investing coz all property there sure can gain appreciation but the only question is which one out of the four is the fastest gainer and have a higher gaining capacity ? Cyberjaya (my opinion : no fact but have a reason, property under development price shooting up not even before the project finish , and property under development have no market value , so i can't say that is the fact ) Reason why i say puchong had max out ? coz it was to complicated, full of foreigner , begger , the poor , the rich. depend on area also coz puchong is BIG , and very BIG, there is some part of puchong which i never been to before (only heard of the name). Coz of the property price in cyber , we expect to see majority middle class and rich people living there.Foreigner? yes the rich one (including those ******* student who can jolly and clubing every weekend). Begger/homeless ? they have cyberjaya municipal who will even tow your car for you if you park it at the road side = ). No bak kut teh? (i'm chinese btw) that is a let down i would say.. but it's not like i eat it everyday . No offense on the living social comment,I'm from poor family myself and i'm now living with foreigner as well.Just stated my opinion what is the potential i saw in cyberjaya and living social in an area do effect property price as well Selangor science park 2 is IN cyberjaya territory (info from google map) , Damansara = selangor science park ... Puchong ? yes it is near.. cyberjaya even nearer = ) too early to say "rich man like to stay together" as most are non completed right now... nothing is proven... lets revisit after 3 years.. |
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Apr 29 2012, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Apr 29 2012, 08:21 PM) subsale is proven for cyberia condominimum, last year in jun , i check the bank market value for a condo unit there ,they said it's only 240000, these year march when i saw bank lelong 280000 (different unit but cyberia condo) i was stunned,coz bank lelong unit is lower than their own valuation,when i ask the banker told me their bank rate that condo for 300000 then when i check subsale from owner most of it at 280000 to 320000. Some who don't know still maintain the same price at 250000 .Overall bank valuation increase by 30k - 60k for those condo in less than a year is pretty impressive i would say coz it is really old unit with poor maintainance . cyberheight now sale at 420k ++ cyberia townvilla is depreciate last time but price increasing steadily now reach the 400k ++ mark. Of course now in cyberjaya still no shopping, night life, amusement and so on thank you for your input, yes 600psft is not proven, not even 400 to 500psft subsale transacted proven.. and i believe those cyberia units are 800sqft to 1200sqft asking from 300 to 400psft..for new unit, yes nth proven hence i didn't call that a fact . It's a gamble , u need to gamble in order to win and if we wait until it's proven , it's already too late . Even now, with price tag of 600.00 psf , It's not our game anymore. It's now open for those with money, and yes it is too late now anyway but if you can afford it, it's better then nothing . I once had a chance to grab a studio unit for 300++ psf , but i let go that chance , now i really wish if I can get those offer again... most unit finish in 2014, let see what happen then unlike some other areas where subsale transacted at 400psft n i believe 500psft new launch is still do able.. yes your input has concluded well, subsale still struggling to keep pace 400psft but new launches are 600psft above, there is a huge gap between subsale n new launch.. Added on April 29, 2012, 10:27 pm QUOTE(puikeong @ Apr 28 2012, 12:01 AM) Just wanted to share a bit of info here. Bak Kut Teh is available in Cyberjaya near the Domain/NeoCyber. there is already a Teow Chew porridge shop in domain as well, went there ocasionally, choyuk not bad...This post has been edited by twincharger07: Apr 29 2012, 10:27 PM |
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Apr 29 2012, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Apr 29 2012, 11:12 PM) Personal experience, i was waiting for pangaea , but when they launch paragon on 20th april , the minimum price start at 411k for 610 sq feet |
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