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 -= myforte - naza kia forte owners club =- V11, Leaves You Speechless

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post Oct 31 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Nitjinsu @ Oct 31 2011, 02:30 PM)
Hi i m new here..previously using Perodua Viva 850 cc for 4 years..currently using Kia Forte SX 1.6 for 4 month..reach 16,000 Mileage....already here scratch and there scratch..somemore ppl throw stone and scratch my car alot..Just finish doing spraying and polish wax...but when take out from workshop suddenly a Proton Saga BLM Fl...hit my but directly...The Blm bumper drop and bend it,big light drop,number plate drop down..while my car only got a little scratch @_@....too bad luck for this month...i m facing a lot of problem about my car..firstly was the dashboard a lot of noise when idle or driving....secondly was the fuel consumption was worse like my bro 350Z ..10l per 100 km...thirdly was the tyre and wind noise..tyre noise was worse than my elder bro myvi...fourth was the car acceleration,too slow even i m using paddle shift it was too slow to overtake a lorry or bus...still get bully by proton exora..lastly was the car steering was a bit heavy compare with my home Vios and City..the turning radius sux somemore..Thats all my comment about my car biggrin.gif....
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What's your number plate? lol...
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post Nov 4 2011, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(ultimate1 @ Nov 4 2011, 09:29 AM)
Anyone knows what is the weight of the EX and SX version ? Trying to find out the power to weight ratio.
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IINM the 1.6 SX should be around 1,315kg, EX 1,300kg. 2.0 SX is around 1,350kg. Heavy car yo...
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post Nov 9 2011, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Nov 9 2011, 09:16 AM)
hi, I wanna know 1.6sx got paddle shift or not?
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post Nov 9 2011, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Nov 9 2011, 10:10 AM)
let's say compare to any manual transmission car, when we change gear in mt car, we can feel it response immediately once release the clutch pedal. what about the paddle shift at forte 1.6 sx, does it response as immediate as mt when we press the paddle shift thing?

I heard that other car that using cvt gearbox with paddle shift doesn't response promptly, maybe 0.5 second delay. so wanna know how cat with paddle shift work.

the reason I ask this because of sometimes ppl may like to vary the gear rapidly to overrun through some slow poke in 1 lane road, or perhaps at highway.
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The best way is to go for a test drive. You'll find the paddle shift faster than manual because there's no need to step on the clutch. Ultimately it all depends on what gear you are in and what you want the GB to do. You can't drop 4 gears all at once and expect the car to redline.

I don't think CVT is any slower than manual in the sense of the time it takes to engage the chosen ratio since there's no clutch involved. Unless you're talking about comparing against a short throw gearstick and racing clutch.
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post Nov 11 2011, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Nov 11 2011, 02:39 PM)
wanna ask will forte under power? since it was so bulky at 1600cc..
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It's not underpowered, esp the current 6-sp version. But it's not overpowered either lol... Just nice.
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post Nov 13 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Daric @ Nov 13 2011, 06:28 PM)
Hi,

Any idea where got forte accessories shop around klang valley area ?
I'm looking for new wiper, my original wiper only served me around 9 months. This is too bad. The rubber stains stick in my windscreen, i'm now headache to get rid of it....
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Just buy a window cleaning solution and rub vigorously on the stained areas.

Maybe you'd like to consider silicon wipers that won't leave any residue? But some of them might skip a bit cos it really wipes clean unlike the useless OEM wipers. My car is 8 mths old and the wipers are already starting to fail. Summore I hardly park my car under the sun.
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post Nov 14 2011, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(cyrix @ Nov 14 2011, 05:59 PM)
4-speed version a lot smoother! Cant feel the jerk. Not sure if 4 speed gearbox already very matured while 6 speed still new.
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I suspect it's because the 4-speeder uses an older, heavier torque converter while the 6-speeder uses a lighter TC. Just a thought smile.gif Furthermore, the 6-speeder is a Hyundai in-house design while the older GB was by Aisin or some other third party manufacturer. Probably still not matured as you say.

But what's this jerking that you guys are talking about? How come my 6-speeder is smooth as silk? Whenever the GB changes up the ECU is supposed to feather the throttle even if our foot is stepping on it. IMO this GB is even smoother than my previous Civic FD's 5-speeder.

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post Nov 15 2011, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(cyrix @ Nov 15 2011, 09:53 AM)
We have a 1.6 4-speed at home. During the test drive of 1.6 6-speed, i tried to accelerate moderately without flooring the pedal, when gear change, we could clearly feel the jerk where it does not exist in 4-speed. Later we switched to shiftronic mode and up shift using pedal shift, same jerking was there. There were 3 person in the car that felt it, including the SA that advise to shift at high RPM to ease the jerk.
Another thing to mention is we did not notice 6-speed accelerates any faster than 4-speed and pulling/torque is about the same.
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I suggest you try another dealership. My family member drives a 6-sp 1.6SX and I drive a 6-sp 2.0SX. Neither of us have felt this clear jerk in between gears that you talk about. Maybe the test car had been well and truly "tested" by many prospects leading to this jerkiness.

Prior to us booking our rides, we tested a 1.6 4-sp at the Glenmarie dealership and that car was quite slow and not very responsive and boomy as we stepped on it. Three ppl in the car, my bro, the SA and I.

As for the difference between 4-sp and 6-sp in torque, yes the torque is the same but the extra gears help the engine rev up faster, i.e., bring it up to its power band sweet spot. However, that only happens if the ECU drops a cog or two as you step on the pedal. If you accelerate in the same gear, let's say 5th or 6th and you don't step on the throttle hard enough for the cogs to gear down to 4th or 3rd then there's no advantage, in fact this scenario would actually favor the 4-sp.


Added on November 15, 2011, 10:29 am
QUOTE(Liuism @ Nov 15 2011, 10:23 AM)
is there such thing as a seasoned gearbox?
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Not seasoned but matured in the engineering sense.

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post Nov 15 2011, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Nov 15 2011, 10:35 AM)
i dunno, but my 1.6 4spd seems powerful enuf 4 me...all i did was juz proper maintenance, follow service guide to service the car....no major problem....but 4 spd i think 1st to 2nd gear, u can feel jerk, while 2nd-3rd n 3rd to 4th are smooth....i m thinking of applying AT cooling system like KFC did....cost is abit expensive, but worth it if want protect your gearbox from long run...
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Did you try using synthetic ATF?
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post Nov 15 2011, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(deora @ Nov 15 2011, 11:31 AM)
wow..u hav 6-speed 1.6 and 6-speed 2.0 at home?...then means you can hav a better comparison between those two lo..cool!

will the 6-speed 1.6 felt underpower if fully loaded with pessengers?
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You got it right mate. Even my 2.0 feels slightly under when fully loaded with 3 or 4 passengers plus the driver, what more for the 1.6 right?
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post Nov 16 2011, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(izputra @ Nov 16 2011, 12:55 PM)
Top it up with plain water will do. Please make sure that the coolant level is between Min & Max level. Dont overfill it beyond the Max level. The coolant will be flushed out & then replaced with a new coolant by the SC on your major service (every 40k km)..
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Actually it's better to top up with distilled or filtered water because tap water contains a lot of contaminants like rust, minerals etc that could clog up the cooling system.
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Nov 18 2011, 11:45 AM)
hello guy...what is expected price for 2009 naza forte?just for renew insurance  biggrin.gif
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http://www.autoclaims.com.my/agv1/home.php
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post Dec 13 2011, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(shadow111 @ Dec 13 2011, 01:38 PM)
still using the default tyre now, if not mistaken is the silverstone 1..
maybe after the tyre goes bald, plan to changer to a better one..
do you think changing to 215x50 R17 will make the ride more comfortable and able to absord the uneven road better?


Added on December 13, 2011, 1:39 pm

if still using the 17", will changing the tyre serve the same purpose? higher profile and better quality one?


Added on December 13, 2011, 1:40 pm

if you go outside with the key, the engine will still running. If you close the door, then it will give some buzzing sound to indicate that the smart key is not in the car.
but then, u won't be able to lock the door using the smart key.. only able to lock by the occupant inside the car.
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Since we're on the topic of complaints. They should have added a door lock button on the centre console like what I saw in the Pug 308. More convenient for the front or rear passenger to access the lock/unlock function in case the driver needs to leave the car unattended for a while. As it is, the front passenger has to reach all the way to the driver's side to lock/unlock the car. A bit ol' skool.

Also, I would have preferred multi-link or at least McPherson struts at the rear instead of torsion beam. Handling a bit iffy around the bends.

Lastly, the GB is quite reluctant to gear down during descents. A bit dangerous esp when taking a downhill bend. There should have been an "L" position on the gear stick to allow us to switch immediately to a lower gear. It is not so much a problem for us 2.0 6-sp users as we can immediately downshift with the paddle shifters, but for the 1.6 owners they have to switch the stick over to (+ -) mode to gear down. I don't see why they had to take that function away from the 1.6SX. Of all the silly things they omitted from the 1.6, this has got to be the silliest.
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post Dec 15 2011, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(keton82 @ Dec 14 2011, 07:40 PM)
if I change the OEM unit , whether the warranty  will be deleted ? Or installing OEM unit at SC to prevent lost warranty ?
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I don't understand what you mean by OEM in this case. I didn't know that Naza was selling this?

It's quite simple, really. If it's not an item that they sell, they won't provide warranty for it. And if your wireman screws up the wiring somehow and causes something else to malfunction, you will lose the warranty on that. By removing the factory head unit you will have lost warranty on that straightaway. And after that you better not have any rattles or cricket orchestra playing in your dashboard area, cos if you complain after that they will blame your contractor for it.

Basically, anything you modify (except maybe Hello Kitty headrest pillows) will render that item and anything related to it, void.

Just remember this, warranty claim is a loss making concern, any manufacturer will do their best to avoid claims as much as possible.
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post Dec 16 2011, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Dec 16 2011, 12:11 AM)
Then u r missing the point of getting SX version, u should get EX version instead.....
SX came with 17'' rims, bcoz of the gripness and provide more traction to the ground. 1 of the biggest point of our forte's less bodyroll and stability is from the rim itself....no matter u change light weight rim or ori heavy rim, both 17'' will serve their same purpose...I wan 17'' rims is bcoz of this very reason, my FC not high(of coz in city drive sure makan more)....
If u wan better FC, as well u get Toyota VIOS or Ford Fiesta....coz they're lighter, and engine more tune to fuel economical type.....
Forte SX is more about safety, that's why 17'' rims included, factory calculated all well....if u wan good FC for Forte, get EX...
Yes, i do agree 17'' tyres are expensive, pick-up slow, FC slightly higher.....but with it, it enhance ur safety(which something u really need and can't buy from any other shops)...
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Bro, there's a whole lot more to the SX than just the rims smile.gif

No need to mention I suppose?

Besides, the rims are one of, if not the easiest to replace if one were to buy an EX. The other things in the SX package are hard to install without incurring too much cost and voiding warranty.
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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Dec 16 2011, 03:03 PM)
Forte facelift drawings... Not bad... not bad at all  rclxms.gif

http://paultan.org/2011/12/16/kia-forte-do...next-gen-model/
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Looks similar to the current gen MD Elantra. Just as the current Forte platform was borrowed from the previous version HD Avante/Elantra but instead of multilink rear suspension we get torsion beam (cheaper to make but doesn't handle as well) hmm.gif


Added on December 16, 2011, 6:18 pm
QUOTE(supercolossal @ Dec 16 2011, 04:32 PM)
IS it worth to pay about 2k for the upgrade to leather seat for 1.6SX?
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The fabric seats in the 1.6SX are quite comfy and soft. It's not really that important. Actually, if you compared the front seats between 1.6SX and 2.0SX, the former are actually more comfy and body hugging as they have a fuller support to wrap the passengers while the latter's seats are a bit flat.


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post Dec 18 2011, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(takky @ Dec 17 2011, 10:10 PM)
As I know, it doesn't matter when you registered, the value is based on the manufactured date. a 2011 manufactured car forever is 2011 even it is registered in 2012
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The value as dictated by banking policy. Banks calculate loan tenures this way. Anyway the residual value difference between an end 2011 car and an early 2012 car is minimal. The additional freebies you get is to offset this difference.

Try and approach an SA for a 2012 car in March and see if you can get as many freebies as buying now? You'll find them singing a different tune cos the principal will not approve higher discounts, hence the SAs won't have much savings to pass on to their customers.
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post Dec 18 2011, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(craxors @ Dec 18 2011, 06:03 AM)
also depends on location bro...
since i'm in jb, i didnt see any offer such like they offer in pj/kl/selangor. and that is since whole year 2011. maybe 2012 year will be same... sweat.gif
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Then you should make some calls to KL/PJ SAs. There's nothing in the rule book that says you can't buy your car from an outstation branch, especially if they can give you better offers.
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post Dec 20 2011, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(kulatkia @ Dec 20 2011, 12:14 AM)
wat mean by "second hand value different"? are u trying to said the 2nd value increasing nowadays?
btw where to refer manufacturing date. My SA mentioned when it was assemble than consider its birth cert  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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In your car registration card will be stated year of manufacture and date of registration.

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post Dec 24 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Dec 23 2011, 09:05 PM)
http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte-12891224.htm

What sort bullshit is this used car dealer adverstising. It says 6speed and 2000 cc. But obviously from the picture it is a 4 speed 1.6sx model.
Selling at RM77,777, which means almost at the original price if includes the insurance and ownership transfer fees.
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A bit far fetched, or maybe the resale value is THAT good? LOL...


Added on December 24, 2011, 12:53 am
QUOTE(KLHC1964 @ Dec 23 2011, 09:28 PM)
Anyone modded their Forte to improve economy and pickup? I tried to check in FB but no response......
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I have Guangdao LV, Pivot Spark Earth, Guangdao Photo Conducted, Pipercross Venom intake. Slight pickup improvement, whole lot of growl, no FC change. LOL...

Must save up for a catback exhaust and DK tuning.


Added on December 24, 2011, 12:55 amHey, anyone here using Hyundai fully synthetic engine oil instead of that crappy Petronas Syntium 3000? An SC suggested Hyundai oil as I complained about the lousy shit they put in my car for the last two services. I enquired about BYO oil but they said kenot...

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