i also love the bmw black. If i not mistaken the black paint name 'jet black'. But persona black also i like coz its really really black.

Our color is like blue black right?

Audi black also nice.

Its twilight blue, not blue black.

This post has been edited by sphiroth: Jun 13 2011, 10:08 PM

pick one... anyway i'm not the type who looks for trouble la just sometime cruising along the hiway suddenly got some owner think his ride is godlike can zigzag here n there that's when i engage my heavy foot...but if the car in front started driving like crazy overtaking left lane here n there because irritated they can't smoke a campro on straight road then i'll just let them be la...dont wanna get involve in some stupid chase and end up eating the divider ROFL

campro 1.3 got different ratio ka? why this is like the 2nd person telling me but if i'm not mistaken the ratio for 1.3 is the same as 1.6...if ure comparing normal campro with cps oso with exora then i can confirm it is different...normal campro 4.0...cps 4.3...exora 4.6...waja cps not sure tho but must be 4.3 as well unless stated otherwise

This post has been edited by shazmn: Jun 13 2011, 10:12 PM

Cps waja is 4.3. But someone mentioned neo 1.3 got different (shorter) ratio...

really? any neo 1.3 user can check the manual booklet?

in my knowledge proton only comes out with the shortest ratio for exora because the need to gain better respond for its heavy body...

well everyday we learn something new right...

Well, this just hearsay only...

if no wind then how tree shaking wahahahahahhaha

http://appsys.dbkl.gov.my/saman/index.asp

Guys, check ur dbkl summons. I got 96 for 3 cars wakakaka
Not check the myvi yet coz i forgot the plate number

There's someone under the tree shaking it.

never think about tht b4...just try whack the corner...untill the tyre producing some beats but true la..waja rear not tht stable!

u use to be`fast` b4?tua ady

ckp bole la...ask him...who`s ball harder! ..........pst** kobe u might try other car...picanto mayb

final drive for satria neo 1.3 is shorter than the 1.6

satria neo 1.3 - 4.3xxx
satria neo 1.6 - 4.054
satria neo CPS 1.6 - 4.3xx too (3rd & 4th gear ratio is different tho)

so i believe (my believe, someone will know better) the blm is using a FD of 4.3xxx, same with the exora...

satria neo R3 gearbox ratio and FD, still hearsay, some say exora gearbox, some say blm, some say custom ratio...
no confirmation yet...

To be exact, all CPS engine use same ratio but with same and different FD respectively..
CPS GB Ratio:
1st Gear = 3.583
2nd Gear = 1.947
3rd Gear = 1.379
4th Gear = 1.030
5th Gear = 0.767

Final drive:
Neo, Gen2, Waja = 4.312
Exora = 4.625

though neo, gen2 and waja have same ratio and FD, the accelaration and speed at certain RPM slightly varies due to different size of tire thus give different rolling radius..
Stock tyre size:
Neo = 195/50R16
Gen2 = 195/55R15
Waja = 195/60R15

Not to say exora with fat 195/65R15 tyre can compensate those 4.625 FD and give almost the same speed at certain RPM with the rest CPS model..

Btw, gen2 campro 1.6 use 4.052 FD with same ratio for 1st and 2nd gear but different 3rd, 4th and 5th gear which are:-
3rd Gear = 1.343
4th Gear = 0.976
5th Gear = 0.804

i believe, Neo 1.6 and waja campro use same ratio and FD with gen2 campro when consider the same patern with CPS line up and Neo 1.3 use same ratio but bigger FD 4.3xx to compensate the underpower from 1.3 Liter heart

Ask jenal.. Me not use it.. Actually busu setup my exhaust as i bought extractor from him..

There is a reason why they put top speed for Neo R3 at 205km/h only
FD is damn short for acceleration

seriously thanx a lot guys...i really dunno about this as my only compilation of gb ratios are for mivec, campro std, campro cps n exora... as below:

MIVEC CAMPRO CPS EXORA
1 3.071 3.583 3.583 3.583
2 1.947 1.947 1.947 1.947
3 1.379 1.343 1.379 1.379
4 1.030 0.976 1.030 1.030
5 0.820 0.804 0.767 0.767
FD 4.625 4.052 4.312 4.625

so what pedanglaut mention is actually the same with my list...just that for neo 1.3 (maybe gen2 1.3 manual as well) i dont have the ratio for it...

KC...i can confirm on exora ratios n fd as i'm an owner and the manual booklet is with me...

if u ask me i would prefer a combination of mivec 1-2 gear ratios paired with cps 3-4-5 ratios and exora fd...

This post has been edited by shazmn: Jun 14 2011, 02:47 PM

This quite simple actually..just dump in Exora gearbox and change just 1st gear ratio to Mivec..done isit

actually comparing the ratios that shazmn posted...

for the 1.6 CPS... id put in the exora gearbox... and thats it. no swapping

1.6 dont really have the torque to pull long ratios so u compensate that with shoter gear ratios... so the short ratio of the 1st gear and paired with the high FD should be able to properly push ur engine forward... the high fd paired with the rest of the ratios should also be good to continue pushing ur engine forward...

then of course theres the low 5th gear which would make long distance cruising more acceptable.

gotta say... the proton engineers knew wat they were doing with the exora gearbox when the put the car together...especially considering the weight of the car and usage. they made the gearbox so that the car can actually move properly and yet not suffer during long distances

i like this posting

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Added on June 14, 2011, 4:15 pmyes it could be simple but to own an exora gb n a mivec gb the price is a killer...better go for mivec lsd gb n just forget about the ratios on 3-4-5

This post has been edited by shazmn: Jun 14 2011, 04:15 PM

meh... just go for the exora gearbox and get the LSD from dori dori. kow tim.