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~**Proton CPS Tribe® V10**~, No more bulk after UR bar?
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shinjite
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 Jun 15 2011, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Jun 15 2011, 08:37 AM) From yesterday i read lasted post it was full of tech info, least a newbie like me can learn a thing two about gear ratio..  . Just want to confirm & check my "pemahaman"  case no 1 : let say i dont change any ratio on gear but i only change to exora FD so my car will have quick pick up but low top speed right? But if i change to campro 1.6 FD it say otherwise..low pickup & high top speed. case no 2 : Ok this time i install 1st & 2nd gear ratio from mivec GB & didnt change FD, So when pick up i gain extra "km/h" from gear 1 & 2 but i may have suffer low pick up right? Becoz the ratio is longer so it will be a bit heavy. But top speed will be same. Well that is question i have in mind...pls educate me..Tq...  case 1: Yes, higher FD = better acceleration overall. If you put a lower FD = longer gears for top speed and better cruising speeds (benefit higher cc cars more) case 2: 1st gear of MIVEC CK is longer so basically you can drag higher. 2nd gear has the same ratio as your Campro This post has been edited by shinjite: Jun 15 2011, 08:58 AM |
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R.Y.D.E.C.K
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Jun 15 2011, 09:04 AM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jun 14 2011, 08:44 PM) Agreed. Although the fifth gear is kinda  in term of performance, it is quite good for cruising. I drove my friends mini cooper n/a version and the gear ratio is really tall. 2nd gear can get 110km/h before rev cut.
Added on June 14, 2011, 8:48 pmSince you mentioned about the 6th gear, a friend of mine who owns an altezza once ride in my car. When i'm cruising in 5th, he said ' why not shift to 6th?'. I said only got 5 gear la, the 6th is reverse.... funny...yet weird  ...my fren telling the same things when he drive my car.fetch him few times and let him drive bcoz mine is MT soo he like to drive once awhile..his family own Mini cooper,Alphard Porsche and Merc beside the Bimmer..and me osso sometimes when im on fast move...i felt like im on the 4th gear then try to shift to 5th gear...its just actually already on 5th gear...i felt like need to shift.. |
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shinjite
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Jun 15 2011, 09:04 AM
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Hi guys, base on the ratios posted earlier, I did some rough calculation Note: It is all based on 195/50/r15 tyres so that you guys can see the difference from the ratios with the same tyre specs Additional would be the MIVEC CK inside as well 
BLM_S4PE.txt ( 3.59k )
Number of downloads: 188
Campro_CPS.txt ( 3.21k )
Number of downloads: 262
S4PH_Campro.txt ( 2.91k )
Number of downloads: 226
Exora.txt ( 3.35k )
Number of downloads: 187
MIVEC_CK.txt ( 2.71k )
Number of downloads: 227 |
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R.Y.D.E.C.K
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Jun 15 2011, 09:08 AM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 15 2011, 09:04 AM) Hi guys, base on the ratios posted earlier, I did some rough calculation Note: It is all based on 195/50/r15 tyres so that you guys can see the difference from the ratios with the same tyre specs Additional would be the MIVEC CK inside as well
BLM_S4PE.txt ( 3.59k )
Number of downloads: 188
Campro_CPS.txt ( 3.21k )
Number of downloads: 262
S4PH_Campro.txt ( 2.91k )
Number of downloads: 226
Exora.txt ( 3.35k )
Number of downloads: 187
MIVEC_CK.txt ( 2.71k )
Number of downloads: 227kmh 4th 5th 180 7363 5483 <<< almost exact for the campro cps... |
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shinjite
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Jun 15 2011, 09:11 AM
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Yup, some of them are very close
But just take this as a reference, it is inaccurate to a small degree haha
Plus all are using 15" tyres so readings might be different from your current ride
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R.Y.D.E.C.K
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Jun 15 2011, 09:29 AM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 15 2011, 09:11 AM) Yup, some of them are very close But just take this as a reference, it is inaccurate to a small degree haha Plus all are using 15" tyres so readings might be different from your current ride tht was when im on 15" since 17' rarely reach 180kmh... but cruising 120kmh - 140kmh is  |
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mutt
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Jun 15 2011, 09:29 AM
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Lots of info. can have dedicated thread talking about gear ratios already rydeck, sometimes I also feel like my car have 6th gear where's zuma? missing alrdy |
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R.Y.D.E.C.K
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Jun 15 2011, 09:31 AM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(mutt @ Jun 15 2011, 09:29 AM) Lots of info. can have dedicated thread talking about gear ratios already rydeck, sometimes I also feel like my car have 6th gear where's zuma? missing alrdy kursus kawen  |
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shinjite
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Jun 15 2011, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(mutt @ Jun 15 2011, 09:29 AM) Lots of info. can have dedicated thread talking about gear ratios already rydeck, sometimes I also feel like my car have 6th gear where's zuma? missing alrdy Not only you man, my car definitely need a 6th gear
Added on June 15, 2011, 9:32 amConfirmation, S4PH Campro using 4.052 or 4.021 FD? This post has been edited by shinjite: Jun 15 2011, 09:32 AM |
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TSAzuma-kun
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Jun 15 2011, 09:33 AM
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apa kursus, tgh kawen |
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mutt
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Jun 15 2011, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Jun 15 2011, 09:31 AM) kursus kawen aik.. aritu macam ade dengar kater takmo kawen lagi  |
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R.Y.D.E.C.K
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Jun 15 2011, 09:34 AM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jun 15 2011, 09:33 AM) apa kursus, tgh kawen LOL laju giler masuk baru nk trolllllll waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakakakaka |
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pedanglaut
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Jun 15 2011, 09:35 AM
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New Member
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Jun 15 2011, 09:08 AM) kmh 4th 5th 180 7363 5483 <<< almost exact for the campro cps... to be more exact..for stock waja cps, u can drag 4th gear till 7000 rpm n get 180km/h considering the stock tyre profile 195/60R15.. kmh 4th 5th 180 6896 5135 rpm 
1. stock waja cps 2. waja cps with exora FD 3. waja cps with mivec 1st gear |
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shinjite
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Jun 15 2011, 09:37 AM
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Stock Waja using 60 profile tyres? No wonder
Mine all base on 50 profiles to sum it up
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R.Y.D.E.C.K
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Jun 15 2011, 10:42 AM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 15 2011, 09:37 AM) Stock Waja using 60 profile tyres? No wonder Mine all base on 50 profiles to sum it up yeah 60...very2 comfort |
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pedanglaut
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Jun 15 2011, 11:13 AM
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New Member
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 15 2011, 09:04 AM) Hi guys, base on the ratios posted earlier, I did some rough calculation Note: It is all based on 195/50/r15 tyres so that you guys can see the difference from the ratios with the same tyre specs Additional would be the MIVEC CK inside as well
BLM_S4PE.txt ( 3.59k )
Number of downloads: 188
Campro_CPS.txt ( 3.21k )
Number of downloads: 262
S4PH_Campro.txt ( 2.91k )
Number of downloads: 226
Exora.txt ( 3.35k )
Number of downloads: 187
MIVEC_CK.txt ( 2.71k )
Number of downloads: 227Actually Saga BLM 1.3L (Manual Transmission) didn’t use mitsubishi GB but source from Aichi Kikai instead, thus its ratio very different wit other proton line-up. Its uses MFA30A gear box with extra huge 4.705 FD and gear ratio as below:- 1st = 3.333 2nd = 1.954 3rd = 1.285 4th = 0.926 5th = 0.755 |
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shinjite
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Jun 15 2011, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Jun 15 2011, 11:13 AM) Actually Saga BLM 1.3L (Manual Transmission) didn’t use mitsubishi GB but source from Aichi Kikai instead, thus its ratio very different wit other proton line-up. Its uses MFA30A gear box with extra huge 4.705 FD and gear ratio as below:- 1st = 3.333 2nd = 1.954 3rd = 1.285 4th = 0.926 5th = 0.755 Yeah come to mention about it Because I remember it has a 4.7 ratio Updated S4PE BLM, the other 1 I will put simply as Campro S4PE
Saga_BLM_S4PE.txt ( 2.6k )
Number of downloads: 72Note: I should have this GB in my car instead, good for high revving  This post has been edited by shinjite: Jun 15 2011, 11:25 AM |
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kcng
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Jun 15 2011, 11:58 AM
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fu................ 4.7 FD maut acceleration if the car has a bigger CC.... hahaha.. unfortunately it is not... |
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shinjite
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Jun 15 2011, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jun 15 2011, 11:58 AM) fu................ 4.7 FD maut acceleration if the car has a bigger CC.... hahaha.. unfortunately it is not... My car needs it man haha |
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kobe10
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Jun 15 2011, 05:19 PM
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New Member
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hahaha, got re001 tyre for RM100 per donut from my friend. Thread agak 65 percent lagi... wohooo...
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