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QUOTE(mango27 @ Sep 8 2011, 03:13 AM)
totally agree... exact same situation as you... from 175/70/R13 changed to 195/50/R15... instant difference after changed... even 2 of my frens who went with me who are not driving can feel the difference... but do not know whether its the tyre profile or the rim that make more significant difference la
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you got a better stability at higher speed, more direct steering feel and better handling.
the different in speedometer minimal but other than the diameter / sizes,
you need to take into consideration the added weight. more weight means extra load to the braking capability whereby your car will stop at further distance but less nose dive feel during braking.
weight affect your fc and acceleration too.

QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Sep 8 2011, 07:42 AM)
over size tire will also effect ur speedo+mileage meter~ icon_question.gif
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from 185/55/r15 to 195 width, different in speedo reading is around 1.9km slower.
better on 6jj wheels.



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post Sep 23 2011, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Sep 23 2011, 01:17 PM)
Using it now. Only the the tyre thread looks aggressive. You get what you paid for, it's nowhere near ps3 or s drive for aggressive driving. It's not too bad. Like I said you get what you paid for. If you want to drive aggressive, get the tyre that suit your driving style. Don't buy this tyre if you drive it like you're using UHP class tyre.
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exactly!
am using it for drift / touge' round in dry due to its dirt cheap price. slightly better than the ol' silverstone evol8 on traction.
less progressive steering feel, noisy and actually quite bad in wet.
then again, couldn't complaint much since 4pcs of atr sport 16" is still marginally cheaper than 2pcs pf ps3. tongue.gif

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post Sep 26 2011, 07:27 PM

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LittleLinnet@
xm1 is already being replaced by xm2. you should go for xm2.

fazron80@
its expected from an indonesian produced tires. the very same one you find in accelera alpha.
one of the highest treadwear rating at 420! while maintain the AA traction rating which is unusual.
even the much better thunderer mach 3(thai brand with soft sidewall) is rated at mere A.
A few years back in aussie, those Indonesian produced tires are actually being on sale over there with the traction rating removed by factory.
nevertheless, its dirt cheap, so, no complaint.
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post Oct 7 2011, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(lkk @ Oct 6 2011, 10:58 AM)
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there is one in pandan jaya carrying michelin range at reasonable price but i could not remember the shop name. located at the pasar malam area.
if you don't mind go slightly further, try kee hin in old klang road. they do a good job on alignment too.

QUOTE(brewoe_1988 @ Oct 6 2011, 01:44 PM)
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performance wise, maxxis i-pro is easily beat the 2 tires you mentioned. sidewall different aside, comfort are almost equal (suspension setup and tires pressure play a part here) but i-pro tend to be a little noisy.
v12 is a decent choice.

QUOTE(pspfan @ Oct 6 2011, 09:12 PM)
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if your stock tires is 195/60/16, changing to 205/55/16 bear little different on fc and speedo reading.
if it was of 185/55/16, then, the different will be quite big.
while there is an increased on handling, most manufacturer gives an indication that 205 width (with thicker profile) on 6jj wheels is fine. i've had try using 205/55/16 on 6jj wheels (rear) and after months of usage, the middle tread is slightly crumpled in(thicker tread remain) while both of the shoulder sides' tread worn out more(pressure and alignment is fine). so, consider upgrading to at least 6.5jj.
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you can try yokohama a.drive, c.drive or hankook v12, falken 912 or st115. decent tires.
btw, klang used to the cheapest around with most choice. nowadays, rawang is catching up.
check around for better deal.
ampang (ampang spectrum area) and sunway does offer decent prices with a lot of choices too.
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QUOTE(e30 @ Oct 10 2011, 01:04 AM)
looking for 195/55/15 or 195/50/15. besides achilles atr sport, is there a better option for the same price range?
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try maxxis i-pro and hero milanza. quite noisy thou.

QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Oct 10 2011, 01:37 AM)
just a reminder, if you're not performance orientated driver, forget about directional tire at all cost. it's so freaking noisy!
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some like dunlop fm-901(95% tread remaining) could easily be the noisiest tires around.
some good tires like gsd3(less than 70% tread remaining)and some other like toyo t1r and hankook v12's has had a noise level which is still fine considering that they does offer a little bit extra in aquaplaning resistance.

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QUOTE(stalvinchew @ Oct 14 2011, 10:15 PM)
Hi, I'm planning to change my tires. Any recommendation? Stock spec: 195; 45; 16' . I know it sounds weird but that's my stock tires..

Prefer comfort and good grip during raining.
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you could check if michelin ps3 has those size.
perhaps, the closest you get is yokohama s.drive or the likes of bridgestone playz.
although goodyear nct5 may have 'em, its lousy shoulder block and bad grip is a big no.
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post Oct 22 2011, 11:08 PM

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175/65/14 to 185/60/14 should be okay. different is almost negligible. slightly better handling too.
any michelin range should be fine.

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reef_d@
i used to get a used tires (drift purpose) from tth. their price and quality is not up to the mark.
for anyone which is really looking for a good used tires, try soon hou at ampang.
i recently bought a 16" falken st115 (year 2010 with 95% tread) at 160 bucks a piece which
is a steal considering the sidewall and shoulder is still almost as good as new.
their alignment job sux' big time thou.

kent_jai@
do not take risk. no point repairing a burst tires. unless it was a minor punctured caused by nail or
anything smaller.
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post Dec 6 2011, 09:02 AM

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vexus@
by looking at the design alone, seems to be a quiet tires.
jointly developed by the Silverstone parent's company @ Toyo.

Travies@
much depend on your budget and preference. xm2 is marginally ahead.

Str33tBoY@
if you're using the same size, fc will not be affected.
try pumping different pressure. anyway, performance tires is differ from those economical
tires which employ more of a low rolling resistance tech with some compromise in overall performance.
i guess it was down to the tires performance, you've got more confidence. thus, you drive faster. wink.gif

skyblas@
any range from Yokohama, Toyo or Michelin is fine. much depend on your driving style.
avoid low range Falken like 522 / 322 or those NCT5.
check out the link at the first page for better understanding on tires behaviour.

noprob@
bigger rim isn't always better. 205/20/16 or 205/45/15 might give better stance and handling brows.gif
but there could be some compromise in car's fc / behaviour.

Intrigue@
go for F1 Asymmetric 2 which has had better sidewall's performance.
PS3's performance in wet and dry is good but sidewall is a tad too soft compare to the previous PP2.
even the new RE002 is worth a look. it's overall performance beat other tires with double A rating.

supermac@
its Achilles ATR(not ATP) Sport. my cheapest drift tires. use 'em for drift rounds. yet no sign of crack (in / out).
tires is hard and noisy thou. 420 treadwear, hence most people will use it for more than 3 years
due to lasting / thick tread. that's when the crack appear!
we did not determined the tires usability by tread's thickness alone. there are this sidewall / shoulder / rubber condition, storage / usage environment, age and so on need to taken into consideration.
come to Dataran Merdeka this coming 17-18 dec to see the Achilles ATR Sport in action.

fyi, my expensive tires cracked (2.5 months old - undisclosed brand for some reason) under 'intense'
weekend drive(never use for drift). something unexpected from someone who change tires every 6 months.

a shop which recommend you a Rapid P609 does not deserved a 2nd visit.
rather than going for those unknown china tires, check out Nexen or lower range Kumho.
Kumho KU-37 which is made in china but return a decent result.
in most cases, treadwear does determines the tires performance. in foreman term, the lower treadwear
tires' are generally more sticky.

btw, tires is definitely one of the most important part in the car. no compromise in safety!

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turbocharged@
different is very minimal. very much down to your preference smile.gif
have not try c.drive2 yet but v12 and n8000 is almost on par.

psycho1@
suv tires? you may look for yokohama avid series. noise level is quite low compare to bridgestone dueller
other decent option are those of kumho solus series.

skyblas@
if you drive at leisure pace, conti comfort 5 is fine.

jie103@
ps3, toyo c1s, hankook v12 evo or falken ze-912.

quote=kenji1903@
cc5 isn't mean for spirited driving. good enough for daily leisure drive though. the redesigned ze-912
should be okay compare to previous one.

kevinphuah88
ps3 or v12 is decent enough.

Eng_Tat@
muc depend on your driving style. if you like to attack corner, buy something
with harder sidewall. ps3 is fine but as mentioned, sidewall is a tad to soft.
else, wet and dry performance is good.

tbc...


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post Dec 13 2011, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(yuyuyu @ Dec 9 2011, 06:54 PM)
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both should be about the same. with the duraplus goes on further mileage which doesn't really
prove a point unless you clocked more km on regular basis.

QUOTE(guanteik @ Dec 9 2011, 09:35 PM)
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most manufacturer does not give you the figure to play around.
based on their r&d, the stock tires may already offer an optimal all round balance (performance, fc,
speedo reading etc....).
to get the best result, you need to stay within 3% rule (check out the 1st page).
anything wider or thicker may affect the car's overall behaviour. including a contact between the tires and car's body during heavy load / turning / going over speed bump.
in some case, compromise between the suspension and tires setup may required.

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s1evo is still one of the better value for money tires around. so does v12.
as for v2, i haven't personally try it but from the design alone, i don't think it will be better than s1evo(personal opinion).


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have not try re002 yet but it looks promising.
re002 are for 'touge' driver which like to push in corner.
may not comfortable enough as a daily ride due to stiff sidewall. a softer suspension setup will compromise the ride comfort thou.

225 width with profile 45 minimum recommended 17" wheels width is 7.5jj.


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QUOTE(marsox @ Dec 14 2011, 05:48 PM)
bro, same case with me, change rim for my gf in klang n they use the nitrogen gas, but then i ask the foreman, how to topup the gas??coz hard to find shop to topup da gas, n he say just pump in the normal air at the gas station only, dont need to topup the nitro gas..
is it true??can we just add the nitro with normal gas??
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fyi, most of the shop doesn't pump the tires with 100% nitrogen.
some % of nitrogen and the rest is oxygen. barring any tires problem, topping up with oxygen
once in a while should be okay. some shop is charging rm1 for refill while other doing it foc for come back customer.
after all, nitrogen could hold the pressure much longer than oxygen.

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Dec 19 2011, 08:20 PM)
On the topic of tires, I would like to get some feedback.

Do you guys put NEW tires in FRONT or BEHIND?
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new tires should be installed to where most of the power are into (running wheels). in awd configuration,
should be to where the higher % of power distributed to.
btw, i've had come across some crap advice / theory ; regardless of the running wheels, new tires should be at the rear.
the reason; simply because it provides more grip during wet road cornering.
then again, how often we drive fast in wet corner?
we can practice the art of controlling an oversteer / understeer but nothing beat the advantage of having control on
most of the traction / grip on the good set of tires.


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post Dec 22 2011, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Dec 21 2011, 06:48 PM)
u sure too?
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well, it depends. whistling.gif
actually, quite a number of us prefer wet condition brows.gif
btw, new tires placement is much depends on the driving style and car setup ; ie, running wheels.

QUOTE(kcng @ Dec 22 2011, 01:12 AM)
and believe me... 95% of the drivers dont even use up to 80% of their tyres actual grip capability....
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exactly!
they only realize how important the grip and traction are when they venture into other
ppl's car / drain.
fine example ; a friend of mine insisted on falken 522 against my advice. recently, he ventured into a drain
and then he realize it was the tires that didn't stop in time. not his twinpot doh.gif

and if we ever noticed, quite a lot of cars out there are running with cheap tires which even beat the slicks in
tread looks, in other term, ' botak' doh.gif

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 22 2011, 08:57 AM)
Falken ZE-522?? He should have gone with the Azenis models....>_>"
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522 was one of the lousiest tires around. especially in wet.
st-115 which am currently evaluating had been quite promising. mixed reaction in wet thou.
treadwear is 280 but due to the soft compound, it wear out about the same time with the 220 rated re-001.

QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 22 2011, 09:01 AM)
saw a lot of big cars using falken. and small car using michelin.

i wonder if sometimes they stretch their budget too much.
and nothing beats a camry 2.4 using a botak yokohama C drive. sleep.gif
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how about a scirocco with corsa tires? or an alphard with forceum?
i should have take the picture of 'em.

QUOTE(kcng @ Dec 22 2011, 11:45 AM)
and believe me, some ppl actually bring their tyres to the max everytime they drive...
a certain RRR here
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especially on midnight wangan or weekend touge ride. even more during track day brows.gif
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environment and tires condition aside, on paper, c.drive2 is definitely much better than cc1.
if your previous tires are of michelin primacy or ze-912, the comparison may not differ much.
enjoy your new tires. drive safely.

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well, the re002 was made in indonesia. sidewall a tad softer than the re001 it replaced.
drove a friend's car fitted with re002 recently. never really had a chance to push due to heavy rain but its wet grip isn't up to my expectation(after the re001).
less aqua planning thou. taking corners isn't as fun as re001.

verdict ; am not gonna fit it to my ride smile.gif
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QUOTE(SkyBlue99 @ Jan 23 2012, 05:07 PM)
in this case since no re002.. which tires? smile.gif
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asymmetric 2.

QUOTE(GuyzNexDoor @ Jan 26 2012, 10:50 AM)
Sadly, my wira tyre burst this morning, i think it's beyond repair.. i'm thinking to change all 4 tyres plus new rim, going back to 15 from 16 ATM. can sumone suggest me the best 15" tyre for wira and would be better if can recommend me the good tyre shop

Thanks
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how much is your budget?
15" is dirt cheap. even the ps3 is below 280. refer to previous posts for more choice.
as usual, ppl will frequent tek ming in sunway or klang jalan kapar area for wider choice.


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