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 ☆☆☆ Tires Discussion Thread V2✰✰✰, welcome re002☆csc5☆asymmetric2!

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post Apr 18 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 18 2012, 12:01 AM)
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MICHELIN. MICHELIN Pilot Super Sport is specially designed for super sport cars and ultra high performance tuning. It is born from endurance racing for the
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yokohama ad07/08 are for high end sports car too, your point? lol

so long people have the money to get said tires, why not, right?


Added on April 18, 2012, 1:21 pm
QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 17 2012, 11:49 PM)
hankok v12 is ok.

high performance thread means will suffer during rain.

see the thread of michelin pilot sport 3 and michelin pilot sport cup. those are UHP performance esp in the wet wink.gif for wet performance u need straight groove.
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i would recommend yokohama c.drive2 if you dont mind the higher than normal treadwear (soft compound)

i run my car at higher speeds (around/over 160km/h) and traction is fine. whacked corners at 100-120km/h also got enough grip.

wet performance also not too bad, highest ive run on wet is around 100-120km/h, dont dare whack corners during wet though sweat.gif

in general though yokohama tires are never famous for their wet performance and most reviews will rate their wet performance being very bad and i do agree. besides the compound auto hardens in wet and sorta lose its comfort/quiet feature and the faster you go the louder tire noise gets. so yeah for my case, no reason to sweat it out when its wet on the road smile.gif

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post Apr 18 2012, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 18 2012, 05:44 PM)
Guys..I just got my Forte 1.6 SX. Stock tire is Silverstone M5. Noisy and stiff. Macam considering to change.

Priority on comfort and noise. (slow driver smile.gif )

Thanks guys
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yoko c.drive 2. hands down LOL
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post Apr 18 2012, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 18 2012, 07:52 PM)
Thanks Mr Arthas. I'll go to the other thread and check the price.  notworthy.gif
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You're welcome smile.gif

price for 195/55/R15 is around rm230-240

forte 1.6 SX stock tire size is 215/45 R17
so prepare a lot more for that size.

that said, if money is not an issue for you, opt for yokohama's Advan DB

DO post a review if you seriously went for those tires smile.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 18 2012, 09:37 PM)
I saw a post that you've got c.drive 2. how much did you got it for ?
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the price i mentioned (230-240)
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post Apr 25 2012, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(StazzKids @ Apr 25 2012, 10:11 AM)
I wan change tyre soon, any suggestion for 195/50/16 or 205/5016?

im thinking of:

Yokohama A drive
Continetal ContiPremiumContact2
or any brand recommended??

Budget below Rm300

I prefer comfort, low noise and well grip on the road during wet for normal ride speed less than 150km/h.
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if you can top up and assuming size available (not sure for the 16" sizes), go for c.drive 2 over A drive for yokohama
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post Apr 29 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(CoLiNJvC @ Apr 29 2012, 11:15 AM)
what about yoko c drive 2?    is it more quite than ps3?
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i personally think so. of course it doesnt have the same grip/wet grip, and tread wear durability as ps3 though
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post Jul 12 2012, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(Dkck @ May 8 2012, 05:26 PM)
Currently using continental comfort contact ct-1 .
Size 185/65 r15 on my Honda city .

Plan to change soon . Need one that less noise. Current tyre pass yellow road very noisy. So my consideration will be noise>grip . Any recommend tyre suit my need ?
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consider the yokohama c drive 2 smile.gif


Added on July 12, 2012, 4:11 am
QUOTE(ferrari38 @ May 8 2012, 05:29 PM)
Hi bro, is anyone use Archillis atr sport before?
My tyre size is 215/45/17.
My main concern is about the wet n dry grip, comfort level n quietness.
Is this tyre below rm300?as I in sales line n traveling most of the time,no need so expensive one tongue.gif
Your comment is much appreciated.
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only michelin ps3 for you, and i dont think rm300 is enough per tire sad.gif


Added on July 12, 2012, 4:12 am
QUOTE(fazron80 @ May 22 2012, 10:33 AM)
good choice. Made in Japan 100%. I used it before. better than reoo1 in wet. Dry grip is also excellent. But the comfort from the noise is unbearable. Only after using s drive will u know the true meaning of noisy tyres. I don't think there's any tires out there as noisy as this s drive.
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if you count semi slicks, achilles 123 rofl


Added on July 12, 2012, 4:23 am
QUOTE(nite_eif @ May 30 2012, 07:51 PM)
hi all..
my tires are already 2.5 yrs old, surveying for new set of wheels. spec now 195/65/15 kia forte. looking at :

same size 195/65/15 - XM2

or upgrade to 205/55/16 - N8000

requirements : long lasting/quiet/comfort > FC > dry/wet grip..speed < 140kmh only..

i see many recommends C Drive 2 for average performance but soft compound will not last..

how about conti / goodyear..any advice from sifus..
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if you're ok on the price, might as well stick to xm2.

dont think conti/good year would offer anything for your criteria, and yokohama's c drive 2 wears off fast due to really soft compound. if you have the money however, you can consider upgrading rims + yokohama's Advan DB


Added on July 12, 2012, 4:28 am
QUOTE(kevinphuah88 @ Jun 11 2012, 07:27 PM)
hi guys, about time to change my falken ze912 on myvi R14. I like these tires alot compared to the stock NCT5, it gives much better cornering but it does not last long. only able to clock 35k with them.

im doing sales so 1 month have to travel about 1800 - 2300km so i need long lasting/durable tires but do not willing to lose much on performance. dont need fuel saving tires like XM2, unless they are durable. but i find it a bit bouncy on my sister's city.

Hankook V12 or Yokohama Cdrive2 ? or others ? Pls suggest. =)
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if you need a tire that last long, c drive 2 is a definite no.

hankook's v12 may be ok, however do note that it is also a fairly soft compound tire.

harder compound tires you may want to look at bridgestone/michelin, or maybe look out on goodyear eagle f1 lineup


Added on July 12, 2012, 4:29 am
QUOTE(unitron @ Jun 18 2012, 11:58 AM)
I just changed to Yokohama C Drive 2 ( 205/55/R16) my comments are..
3) Dry grip --- sucks big time, it's the most unstable tire I've ever used, even cheaper stuff can perform better IMHO. Since using it, I'm afraid of most corners, passing heavy vehicles on the highway, uneven road (coz car bounce everywhere)
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may i know how much air you filled your tires with?


Added on July 12, 2012, 4:30 am
QUOTE(wsmw @ Jun 18 2012, 12:38 PM)
Guys, any recommendation for 215/45/17?

i am looking for quiet tires.

someone recommended Yokohama db for 465/pcs

the stock tire is Conti MCS 5 is Great but i think is quite noisy.
would changing to a higher series be more quiet? like 50 or 55 series?

Thanks
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if you can afford yokohama advan db, by all means try it out.

higher profile tires may or may not improve noise, it will however definitely improve comfort as you get thicker rubber to go through uneven road/potholes/lines etc smile.gif


Added on July 12, 2012, 4:31 am
QUOTE(aming @ Jun 21 2012, 11:24 AM)
dear sifus, i need some advise, my tyre went flat yesterday and i found some crack in tread nearest to the sidewall (50 cent size), the pomen said just tampal, i'm not really sure what he meant because he also said he couldn't do anything about the crack...i think maybe tampal the bocor and the crack still be there...rite?...the thing is i have a long trip tomorrow, should i be worried about the crack and better change for the new one today?the age of my tyres is 3 years and 5 months...already in warga emas age for tyre rite?it's ventus hr 2...
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if you're not a spirited driver/drive fast, most tire mending/patching jobs will last you throughout the tires lifetime

however for the peace of mind, and if you do have the money/budget, it is always recommended to get new tires smile.gif


Added on July 12, 2012, 4:32 am
QUOTE(LYL2009 @ Jun 26 2012, 11:25 AM)
Good day Sifus,

Im looking for 225/4/R18 inch tyres which comes with excellent comfort+silent features. So far the recommendation I gotten from the tyre shop are Michelin PS3 and Dunlop Veuro VE302. Continental is out of my budget though pricing nearly RM1k per piece.

Would need some guidance from you guys. Many thanks!
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i never knew continental would be more expensive than michelin ps3? check out the pricing for yokohama advan db if you can find it at the shops you frequent to smile.gif

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post Jul 13 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(sengasdf @ Jul 13 2012, 03:16 PM)
What size are you using?? Isn't it 35 to 40 quite high ?
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thats what i was wondering too, im on 15" and i pumped 32 for all tires and there wasnt much bumpy feeling/instability, if any at all.

and yes i sometimes whack corners around 100km/h too lol.
any more then my car will tailspin itself because im still on 12 years old iswara stock springs and i have really bad body roll.

straight ways, ive driven at most 168 +/- km/h before smile.gif
no issues, no instability. cuz lol straight way.
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post Jul 13 2012, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(sengasdf @ Jul 13 2012, 03:22 PM)
I have no idea how much to pump as I have changed size from 185/60/R15 to 195/50/R16, still I follow the manufacturer spec, front 230kpa, rear 210kpa  tongue.gif

Funny thing is... Suzuki SC told me to pump 32psi for front and rear  hmm.gif
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i thought you need to pump more when you upsize? lol
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post Jul 14 2012, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(h4dRi @ Jul 14 2012, 12:15 AM)
No need lor..just follow manufacturer specifikesyun already enuf becoz we measure air pressure, not air volume
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then even worse right if you go all the way 35-40? rofl


Added on July 14, 2012, 3:54 am
QUOTE(unitron @ Jul 14 2012, 03:16 AM)
size is 205/55/R16 as in earlier post....

Anyway at least most of the cornering issue has been sorted out after I've adjusted the wheels to have more negative camber. Still bouncy but at least controllable and predictable.
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i have negative 0.5-1 camber, not a whole lot compared to some other aggressive drivers out there. 32psi all tires. i think you might want to lower your psi to resolve your bouncy issue smile.gif

really, the more you shed some light into this, the more it seemed like user fault over tire fault lol.

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QUOTE(779364 @ Jul 16 2012, 01:48 PM)
Guys, can recommend me a comfort tyre 195/55/r15

Budget less than RM200/pcs

I am more concern with noise and comfort.
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only noise and comfort concern? yokohama c drive 2 la. ur budget ngam ngam, maybe top up rm10-20 or so per tire biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(phil08 @ Jul 16 2012, 05:47 PM)
hi all sifus
currently my honda city idsi using michelin ps3 195/65/r15
consider to change all 4 tyres by nxt mnth, any tyres recommended?
budget below rm250/pc.

i saw some brand named toyo & falken. are they good compare to those big brand?please give some comment.

thx
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falken nope. toyo can be considered.

more importantly, why didnt specify your criteria in tires?
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jul 16 2012, 10:29 PM)
Planning to change myvi stock tires 175/65/R14. <rm200
Criteria - comfort, low noise, longer lasting thread

- XM2
- C drive
- CC5?

thanks
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perhaps XM2 smile.gif
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QUOTE(ahucks @ Jul 18 2012, 05:18 PM)
better go with Yokohama C Drive 2... better than those tyre...i've tried it before
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can't comment on tire comparisons on the mentioned 2 brands/models, however do take note that yokohama or c.drive 2 in particular don't perform so well on wet.

that said, i still speed quite decently during wet conditions (over 100km/h) and experienced aqua/hydroplaning time to time. so far so good though, still controllable conditions. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jul 19 2012, 01:39 PM)
But nestum, why would you say it is dangerous?
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most semi slicks perform very very poorly in wet conditions.
that's why in races they have specific wet tires should the track gets wet.

at the end of the day, these racing semi slick/slick tires are not only unsafe, they are also illegal on the streets. not to mention unnecessarily expensive too. do take note on that before considering on such tire usages smile.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jul 19 2012, 01:54 PM)
Oh i see. Illegal and unsafe..but Toyo is still selling them..not sure it is legal or illegal...
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they sell it assuming you will be using it for track /legal racing purposes.

i am sure they have disclaimers and will not be held responsible if you have improper use of racing/semi or slick tires
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QUOTE(jason1818 @ Jul 22 2012, 04:28 PM)
hi,
thinking to change new tyres and have been doing surveys and reading all the comments on here and autoworld, basically i have shortlisted these 3 tyres (215/55/17) :

1) toyo C1S
2) yoko DB Advan V551
3) yoko C drive

Actually I got a good deal from hin leong, klang for the toyo C1S, decided to give toyo a try, but after reading more reviews, I am quite concern about few complaints from toyo C1S, tyres wear off very fast (but i dun know how fast they actually meant) ... very quiet on smooth road, but theres noisy/weird sound when going on rough road .. how truth it is ?? and the difference between c drive & C1s only about RM40-50 per tyre ! So, Is it better to go for C1S, C1S is better than C drive in all areas ?? I am quite worry about the weird sound from C1S while driving on rough/uneven road, i dun know whether those sound would be very much annoyed ?????  blink.gif

Some said DB advan v551 better than C1S in almost everything except the wet traction, but db v551 also a bit pricey than C1S  rclxub.gif Now hin leong dun have stock for it  blush.gif  I know C drive is a old tyre tread design, but if they are ok, then i dun mind using them. just if the difference between c drive n C1S only about rm50 a piece, which tyres more worthy to go for ? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  (currently theres no C drive 2 available in this size)

My criteria for the tyres, more on comfort, quiet & of coz dry/wet traction must be average.
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1) no comment on Toyo as never used them
2) very pricey, however should be worth it if you can fork out that kinda money
3) old tread design, not worth it unless you're getting a huge bargain price for it. if anything, opt for the c drive 2 if you can get R17 sizes
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QUOTE(jason1818 @ Jul 22 2012, 05:24 PM)
hi,
2) it seems like a well all rounder from many revews but the drawback is it loses in wet traction. V551 price  
     compared to C1S is about RM25-30/ tyre, worth to choose it over C1S ? Some said C1S quite good in wet 
      traction, ai ya, kepala pening la  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
3) old tread design, YES, but if its good tyre, not worthy to take also ? as i said, the difference between c drive &
    C1s is about RM40-RM50/tyre. theres no my size for c drive 2 yet  mad.gif
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http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Toyo/Proxes-C1S.htm

seems like only quiet when new?
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Now the negative
1. It is only quiet when new. When the tread level goes below half worn, it is noisy.
2. If you don't have a lot of tyre shop that deliver Toyo in your area, please do not get this as Toyo is very difficult to source in certain area.
3. It has a bumpy feel even I applied tyre UV protector on the sidewall weekly and this tyres are less than 1 year old only. Maybe due to the stiffer sidewalls.


and it cost almost as much as advan db? ><


Added on July 22, 2012, 5:56 pm
QUOTE(Snsaw @ Jul 22 2012, 05:32 PM)
hi,

Will be interested to know what other tyres better than the 3 listed for the same size.

I am also looking for a quiet and safe ride.

Currently using yoko DB E70.  Dunno whether this is a good tyre or not but came with the car and kinda noisy on normal city roads but ok on the highway.

thanks.
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DB E70? iinm thats like the older generation db right? before yokohama even integrate the db lineup to their ADVAN flagship lineup.

anyways from my knowledge you can look up the tires listed, or maybe look out continental. i've heard a lot of bad reviews on continental especially on their grip/traction performance for their comfort/quiet series, so in the end went with yokohama c drive 2 on my current ride smile.gif

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QUOTE(mjjj @ Jul 22 2012, 06:45 PM)
any budget tyres for my r15 and now currently im using 195/50/r15
need to fork out alot on repairs tats y need to be budget abit on tyres and the thread is merely 10% left and im bringing out to change this few days

budget around 200 for each tyre
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you're not looking forward to spirited/aggressive drive or good comfort/quiet are you? cuz for budget tires, its damn hard to get those.

then again you DO have rm200 budget (damn healthy budget per tire to be very honest lol), and c drive 2 tires are ~rm220 for your size btw wink.gif

then there's michelin xm2, or continental comfort contact series.

bridgestone potenza?

for a better performance but cheap/reasonable tire prices, the koreans such as hankook v12/kumho (KU36? kept forgetting the model lol) offer really good pricing:performance ratios


Added on July 22, 2012, 11:29 pm
QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 22 2012, 07:59 PM)
ur alza or ur myvi? laugh.gif

Silverstone Synergy M5
Bridgestone MY01
Falken 912
Achilles ATR Sport

for the bridgestone, falken and achilles, pricing should be a bit over 200 each, unless you go klang. There can get cheaper.
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there's a lot of naysaying about silverstone, i personally never experienced them, however the way some are exaggerating, i guess i'd best not to.

falken is overpriced for what it offers. and soft compound that doesn't offer significant quietness/comfort seems to be a waste of treadwear imo sad.gif

achilles may be stiff which can result in harsher NVH, however for performance:pricing, they are very competitive if you have no regards to comfort/noise


Added on July 22, 2012, 11:32 pm
QUOTE(jason1818 @ Jul 22 2012, 08:12 PM)
actually i have read that review also, but which tyres not noisy after half worn out ? what about c drive and yoko db advan v551? can those tyres quiet last much longer ? C1S & v551 only a bit difference, c drive cheaper than both.. I feel like want to go for C1S, but the mixed reviews of it make me think twice again ... icon_question.gif Think just go for C drive without hesitation but C1s which is japan made only rm40-50 difference with c drive which is phi made . shocking.gif So, dun know which one more worthy icon_question.gif
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c drive 2 perhaps not as the treadwear is pretty bad. really really soft compound lol

advan db however is on a better compound and boasts better treadwear and still obtaining better silence/comfort. it has a premium pricetag attached to it though and i believe thats just about the only downside to it sad.gif

personally id recommend AGAINST c drive UNLESS you can get a real bargain price. considering it is of older tread design and compound compared to c drive 2, it is just basically for shops clearing old stock, and they SHOULD give cheaper price for clearing stocks agree?

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QUOTE(jason1818 @ Jul 23 2012, 12:35 AM)
Hi,
To be more specific, so far the best offer i got for c drive is RM 385/pc, with FOC balancing, alignment, and 4 valve tubes, but its oct/nov 2011 tyres, hows the price ?? reasonable ?? If not becoz of the reviews saying that weird sound/noise from toyo C1S while going on rough road and tyres wear off very fast, i would definitely want to go for toyo ..  wink.gif  wink.gif Dun know whether c drive or toyo C1S wear off faster ??? one is philiphines tyres, one is japan  brows.gif Hope all sifu here can give me opinions coz i need to change those tyres as soon as possible ..  blush.gif
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i really can't comment much on Toyo, or the old c drive 2. if the new c drive 2 sure as i am running on them for half a year already lol, and advan db there are other forumers already given their review.

the country of the tire's origins do not determine tire tread ratings fyi smile.gif

it's really up to you, as i said, if the shop can offer cheap price for clearing old stock, get the c drive (i've never looked into R17 tire sizes so i cant comment on the exact price too, sorry sad.gif )

else its either the toyo or yokohama advan db whichever that fancies you more lol

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