From my listening tests, the M3300SF version doesn't have quite the treble that original M3300 has.

That's correct. I know some people can't stand high treble. Its up to the buyer to decide (thru listening tests at the showroom or demo) which speaker he feels comfortable with.

Yups, M3300 is good for music purposes. As for any other model better than M3300 at this price range AFAIK none at the moment.

Kinda quiet here, but my own recommendation would be Edifier M3300 (example user) and Edifier M3400 (example review) as mentioned earlier, also in the list of recommended speakers at the first post of this thread. Try to get a demo (listening test) at the shop/showroom to judge for yourself (listening preferences is subjective depending on the individual). Perhaps you can wait for the other guys to comment (or recommend other speakers).

Isn't that speaker, HCS2320, is way over your budget of RM200? More like in the RM300 region...

You can try selling it here: Trade Zone -> Garage Sales -> Music Players and Audio Related Accessories..

This post has been edited by lex: Apr 29 2012, 05:54 PM

Why not got to his house and ask him to demo the speakers to you before buying them? Check and see everything is in good order, as well as whether the sounds from the speakers suits your listening preferences. Personally, I've heard the VS4121 and will say I am not impressed as they sounds kinda blur to me (lack of clarity overall) and more suited to people who likes boom boxes. ATP3 is pretty old and it does sound better than VS4121 though the highs are not that well defined.

Rather than the default output plugins, I use Audioburst FX System and turned it all the way up to 24-bit 96kHz (depends on whether the audio I.C is capable or not).

Look for Edifier M3400 (RM199) and Edifier E3100 (RM159). You can also check the recommended speakers list at the start of this topic.

24-bit is more than enough at the moment, as that's the most common DAC resolution in audio I.Cs today. Also you will need to enable the resampler. The higher the quality of the resampler settings, the more processing power will be used. Good speakers and/or headphones are required...

Mine...

Best suited for high quality audio sources such as Audio CDs and lossless audio files..

This post has been edited by lex: May 6 2012, 01:47 AM

To distinguish a little bit better, try using the headphones and notice the highs and noise floor.

That's bit more expensive as the E3100 would retail for around RM159, but the M3400 is much cheaper as it should be around RM199. Quite a reversal there, is it a pricing mistake or some special promotion?

IMHO that would be Edifier if looking for clarity. Altec if you are looking for booming sounds. There's also a list of recommended speakers at the start of this thread. As always try the speakers at the shops (ask for demo) first to see which one suits your listening preferences.

There's already an existing topic here: Special Interest -> Home Entertainment -> Audiophiles -> Please Recommend... a 2.1 or 5.1 speaker set V4, Comparison and advice needed (PC Audio). You can inquire there...

Sonic Gear Evo 3? I guess you haven't seen this: Speaker Discovery Channel, Speaker brand giving fake spec infamously known for its fake tweeters...

You may want to look at Edifier speakers. What's your actual budget?

This post has been edited by lex: May 11 2012, 10:49 PM

The tweeters are for the high frequencies. Without those, music and sound effects tend to be blur (unclear) and not refined. Try listening to sounds of cymbals and you'll notice they sound different without the higher frequencies. You'll also notice that 2-way speaker systems (with tweeters and mid-range drivers) tend to be more expensive than 1-way (single full range drivers).

There are lots of famous brands like Klipsch, JBL, Harmon Kardon, etc.. though these are all expensive and beyond your budget.

Look for Edifier E3100, should be around RM149. Perhaps the Edifier M3400 mentioned earlier at RM150 (not sure if that was a mistake or not as this speaker usually retails for RM199)...

Fake speakers are either pieces of plastic (or metal) that resembles speakers but does not function at all (no sounds). Its just to trick or give a false impression to the customer into thinking there's a speaker. Here's another type of fakery: Hantol PSU: Fake PFC Made of Cement.

IMHO can't recommend any Altec Lansing that's cheaper than ye olde MX5021. The BXR1221 has 4WRMS+4WRMS satellites and only 7WRMS subwoofer. As for your budget, you can try looking at Edifier M1335 which has 8WRMS+8WRMS satellites and 12WRMS subwoofer.

Of course Edifier M1335 (older model) and Edifier M1380 (newer model) are better. Actually both of these are newer variants of ye olde Edifier M1310 (all speaker specifications virtually the same, 8WRMS+8WRMS satellites and 12WRMS subwoofer, also same subwoofer design).

Edifier M1360 kinda underpowered if you check its specifications (2WRMS+2WRMS satellites and 4.5W subwoofer). That's weaker than Altec Lansing BRX1221. All of these speakers have 1-way systems (single full range driver) for their satellites.

The Edifier E3100 as well as Edifier M3400 mentioned earlier are 2-way systems (tweeter and mid-range driver). That's why these speakers are highly recommended for RM150 price range..

This post has been edited by lex: May 12 2012, 01:42 AM

Nope, fake speakers have no sound at all. You're hearing residual sounds from the main (real) speakers. Here's another fake speaker example, this time its Sonic Gear Evo 5. Tell me how, without any wires, can the fake "speaker" make any sounds?



Yes, that's what I meant. Those tweeters are for high frequency trebles. Without them some sounds will lose definition. Its also very much depends on the type of music people listen to, or not used to listening to better speakers, thus some don't notice the "missing speakers".

The Edifier E3100 retails around RM159, though I've seen some places selling lower at around RM149.

This post has been edited by lex: May 12 2012, 03:06 AM

Yes, the satellites. E3100 has wooden satellites and bigger as well, plus tweeters for high frequency reproduction.

Nope, the Edifier M1335 does not have tweeters. And yes, it does have audio jack for headphone as well as a simple wired remote volume control.

There's always a limit to how well a full range drivers can reproduce high frequencies. Any simple test can demonstrate that. That's why tweeters are prefered.

If you're talking about Edifier models, the E3300 is way over RM250+ while M3200 is almost RM200. Those are way over your budget..

Suggest you go and check the speakers and ask for demo if possible (and see which one fits your listening preferences). Anyway Altec Lansing ATP3 is out of production model. Is that a second hand unit?

You'll have to tell use where's your area. Also how much do they charge for those Edifier speakers...

Depends on the price point, because IMHO feel Logitech speakers are a little underpowered (from what I've heard so far). What's your budget anyway?

They're not satellites, just stereo speakers (or "2.0 speakers"). Are you looking for speakers powered from the wall socket, and/or from the USB port only?

Actually it does matter. If you want portability then you will need to go for USB-powered speakers. As for better sound quality, tiny portable speakers don't make the grade. You'll need to look for speakers that are much bigger in size and preferably have tweeters on them, something like this: Edifier R600 USB (though the speaker's weight may be an issue, since you're looking for something around 1kg). However if you want louder sounds then those powered from the wall socket would be better as usually USB port has limited power supply.

Why don't you go to the shops and see if they could demo the speakers, to enable you to judge yourself which one you'll prefer/like. I'm not into teeny weeny speakers.

In this day and age, not easy to find 2.0 speakers (as most of the speakers nowadays are 2.1 type). You may try looking at Edifier R1600T Plus (if not mistaken around that price range you've mentioned)..

I vote for Edifier M3400.

Its either an internal broken wire, dry solder joint (somewhere) and/or loose connector. Should be very simple fix. Usually can be repaired easily by any electrical/electronic repair person, or simply ask any local electrical repair shop. If the speaker is still under warranty, then fixing it may void warranty though...

Usually desktop PCs have at least 3 audio ports. Besides the usual LINE OUT, the other 2 ports (MIC IN and LINE IN) can double as outputs when using 5.1 speaker configuration (use the soundcard's own control panel or sound manager to setup speaker configuration). As for the broken button issue, find a technician to replace the push button micro switch. Anyway, what's your desktop PC brand/model? Why did you state that it has a single audio output?

No, you can't use that. That's a custom cable for a particular soundcard only (note the main connector is not a stereo jack). Source: iXBT Labs: Genius Sound Maker Live 5.1 sound card...


This post has been edited by lex: Jun 14 2012, 07:01 AM

Sounds like internal broken wire. Actually can be fixed easily (used to fix those type of problems before).

I think you missed Edifier M1350 2.1 speaker system (retails for around RM59). Do you have specific budget?

RM1K for 2.1 system is quite plentiful. Anyway, 5.1 speaker system is within reach and can even afford a mini-HiFi component system.

Try Edifier M3400 2.1 speaker system.

This post has been edited by lex: Jun 21 2012, 06:43 PM

That BOSE unit kinda fits your small footprint requirements, though not sure how powerful that system is (since the wattage was not mentioned in its specifications).

Try Edifier M1335, retails around RM119 to RM129.

What type of "blast" music? Are you looking for the "boomers" or "thumpers"?

I think he meant Edifier M1360, which retails around RM89.

No idea, have not listened to this one yet...

Not sure about the Edifier M3200 since I've not heard it yet, but for music listening usually either Edifier M3400 or Edifier M3300.

At those price range, can get either 2.1 or 5.1 speakers already. Going for 2.1 or 5.1 system?