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geekster129
post May 23 2011, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 23 2011, 07:32 PM)
This coming weekend I have a wedding to shoot and only equipped with D7000 kit set. Should I get the SB900 flashgun to cover the day up? I'm still wondering how would the flashgun enhance the photos as many said flashgun will do wonders.

If I'm opt to get the flashgun, any additional accessories I should consider? Beside this coming weekend, next month I will also have some wedding to shoot.
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If I have SB900, I can machine gun my camera all the way when shooting kissing scenes, not a single frame missed. brows.gif

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post May 24 2011, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 24 2011, 12:11 AM)
Chinese Wedding?
Flash gun is highly recommended. It doesn't matter if you have prime with f/1.4, most probably you're not going to use wide aperture and bokeh is pretty much useless unless for specific special shots. You need to capture movement, moments, you need fast shutter speed. When they're playing those games, you can't afford to miss those moments or blur shots caused by slow shutter. Indoors, depending on the house,etc it might be crowded and the lightings might also be poor, shooting group photo, you're not going to risk using big aperture to compensate for the light, you need to get more in focus and people don't have time to wait for you to adjust here and there and keep reviewing your photo and re-take, it's better to be more assured that you got the shots.

Then the more challenging part, the wedding reception? Depending on the location, the lightings can go even worst especially inside the ballroom and the ceilings may be very high. The important moment, the couple walk-in, the lights will be off and you don't have much time to take the as many shots as you can; You don'y really have time to check and review your photo as the couple will be walking in. You wouldn't want to ruin these important moments..... They don't stop for your to take photo and adjust your camera settings, plus, the spotlights might mess with your photo...

People may say the D7000 have great ISO, but that doesn't mean you don't need flash and doesn't mean there will be low noise, you might be using ISO above 1000 easily for indoors even will wide aperture... will smaller aperture, easily it will go up to ISO 3200 or even higher. Under expose and your images will be filled with noise/grain that is worst than higher ISO.
And without the help of flash to fill in the shadows, those spotlights, etc will cause your subject to have shadow on their faces, etc.

Just my cheap 2 shutter clicks.
Very true indeed.
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I agree with you. Wedding photography is not a testing ground for you to experiment. The pressure to get good pictures are 10x more than normal portraiture shooting. Every moments, do count. smile.gif

To me, I think basic foundation of understanding towards different kinds of light source is very important, not just ambient light but also flash photography. The more you understand them, the more you have control over the lighting to shape the picture you want. Sometimes, ambient light alone won't do you any good but it can backfire. Lighting is just one thing, havent even come to those times where white balance is damn tricky that it sometimes could be hard to be recovered during PP even if shooting RAW.


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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ May 24 2011, 06:27 PM)
there is no such thing as camera settings for specific camera.

if you were talking about ISO, Shutter and Aperture those things are depends on the situation and light.
if you are talking about picture control. it depends on user preference, saturated, sharpness, etc etc..
if you are talking about white balance. it depends on mood that you want to show in the image.
if you are talking about focusing. it pretty much depends on your shooting style, and what are you shooting. smile.gif

best luck ahead pal!

here you go for the better understanding
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As you go deeper in photography, you'll realize that there will always be tradeoffs that you need to take. When you take one you have to give another. That's just the nature of it.

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post May 24 2011, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 24 2011, 08:00 PM)
Well, this isn't going to be a paid shooting. I'm doing it in favor for one of my best buddy. Since I'll need it (the flashgun) in future, it only affects my decision and not changing my decision which is purchasing the flashgun months earlier than expected. Although D7000 ISO performance is great as mentioned by many others, I still find the noise unbearable much at 2000 and above, I try to fit myself below 1600 if possible.

Wide aperture may be handy, but it's totally awesome-less when all lights off which typically popular for Chinese wedding dinner.
Hi stsh90, thanks lot for your feedback. That gonna be a +1 for me to immediate getting my flashgun.
Yes Andy214, it's Chinese wedding and I do understand during the ceremony of wedding dinner when the couple walks in. It gonna be dim lights or totally off, not to mention the first serving of dishes. Pretty popular these days.

Says I purchasing my flashgun now, what practice do I need to go through for delivering the photos with my kit lens this coming weekend? I'm clueless adjusting the flashgun or adding accessories such as diffuser etc.

Care to share couple of tips and guidance please? smile.gif
Thanks aldosoesilo !
Yeah, I do understand the pressure in delivering photos for wedding photography. However, this occasion is different than most wedding photography as I was invited in favor instead of paid shooting. The person that invite do understand my level in photography now as he started at the same level with me.

It gonna be rush, but I wanna strive for what I can do the best to deliver since they did not appoint OP for the day. What should I practice and read for these few days about flashgun before the actual day?

Please do feel free to share and shove your guidance, tips and recommendation altogether notworthy.gif
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If they off the lights, I will definitely refrain from shooting anything, since in total darkness, your AF will definitely fail to work, MF is out of question.

I am expecting the spotlights to shine over the couples during the march in.

Some things to look at:

1. Be aware of the scene, make sure you shutter speed is adequate as there will be a lot of actions. If your couple is moving about, low shutter speed will cause motion blur, and has nothing to do with your hands steady or not.
2. If you're not confident on your exposure, use Aperture priority mode if you need to control your aperture for depth-of-field, Shutter priority if you need to shoot motion or panning shots (following couple's car), matrix metering mode. Aperture/Shutter priority mode can let you ensure that the exposure will always be consistent because you might be shooting indoors and outdoors interchangeably during Actual Day. Sometimes, beginners usually have common mistakes of forgetting to set to correct exposure when using M mode.
3. When shooting group photos, try if possible use a smaller aperture to have a larger depth of field so that everyone's in focus. Don't be afraid to spam a few shutter clicks because sometimes, your guests may blink their eyes.




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post May 24 2011, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ May 24 2011, 08:49 PM)
Lots and I mean like really alot of practice. Reading can go as far as just for understanding but practice can make perfect.
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Reading is totally different than actual shooting. You may think you can do such shot after some reading or seen some photos, but once you're looking through your viewfinder, everything feels totally different.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 24 2011, 10:35 PM)
Ok guys, this is getting crazy for me. Flashgun is in now. Next, I'll need to hunt for batteries tomorrow. Sanyo Eneelop? Which package is recommended? The seller told me that their shop customers got experience using high mAh batteries for the flashgun resulting in malfunctioning which then requires repair. Izzit true that high mAh batteries will spoil the flashgun? unsure.gif

Any guide or tips on how I should handle the flashgun least enough for what to deliver this weekend? sweat.gif


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Congrats on your purchase.

I suggest you give this article a read. Lots of useful tips there.

http://neilvn.com/tangents/
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QUOTE(xbbshampoo @ May 25 2011, 01:53 PM)
then how would i judge which metering mode that should i use to get the effects of vibrant color that i want.  rclxub.gif

and nikon exposure compensation is beside the flash thingy right? inside the navigation screen i mean
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There are 2 eV - One that controls your BODY exposure compensation and another one is called flash exposure, which appears as + and - on the back of your flashgun, that one controls your flash output.
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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ May 26 2011, 06:38 PM)
I never bring any laptop before in my travels... this will be my first time. So i should take it out from the bag ? I thought they'll still ask u to put it thru the scanning machine ?
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Maybe get a used ISO3200 film canister and convince the security to hand inspect your luggage?
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post May 26 2011, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(loyatttt @ May 26 2011, 07:01 PM)
but nikon 50mm 1.4 should be better right? no? ok maybe the new 50mm is better don't know haven't seen any pic...
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I somehow love the color rendition of 50 1.4

(only edited contrast, color remained the same from camera)

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