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post Mar 23 2009, 12:06 PM

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For income tax RM300 deductions on sports equipments, I read from yesterday (or Saturday?) TheStar saying:
1) Sport shoes are not deductible (even if you are an atheletic runner)
2) However, short-lasting equipments like badminton shuttlecocks, etc. are allowed.

I try find in www.hasil.gov.my for the FAQ or doc or more info, but can't it. Anyone can help to point the link on what are the items allowed or not allowed ?
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post Mar 24 2009, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(babychai @ Mar 23 2009, 07:31 PM)
Bro, sport shoes is sportswear not equipment  doh.gif
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But to a runner (marathon), it is his most basic equipment. However, LHDN does not accept it.

Anyone has the weblink which details all the items allowed to deduct from tax (max RM300) ?
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post Mar 24 2009, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Mar 24 2009, 12:31 PM)
depends on EA form. just follow the EA form.


Added on March 24, 2009, 12:32 pm
download the "buku penerangan borang be2008" from their website. its in there.
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Thanks for the info. Further digging and I found this to share with everyone here:

A) RESIDENT INDIVIDUAL
Employment and Other Income (Without Business Income)
Explanatory Notes BE2008
This form is only for viewing. Please use the Malay language version for submission to the Inland Revenue Board of Malaysia.


CODE
D8C PURCHASE OF SPORTS EQUIPMENT

An amount limited to a maximum of RM300 is deductible in respect of expenses expended
by the individual for the purchase of sports equipment for any sports activity as defined
under the Sports Development Act 1997. Sports equipment includes equipment with short
lifespan e.g. golf balls and shuttlecocks but excluding sports attire, e.g. swimsuits and
sports shoes.


This post has been edited by cute_boboi: Mar 24 2009, 01:27 PM
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post Mar 26 2009, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Mar 26 2009, 11:26 AM)
if not mistaken, failure to declare (even though not taxable) will subject you to LHDN penalty. others can correct me if i'm wrong.
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From my understanding, whether your income is above/below, as long as there is income, it is the individual responsibility to declare the income, even if you earn RM10 per month (=RM120 p.a.).

You will still need to register, request BE form, fill up RM120 (penggajian), then RM8000 personal relief.
Hence, taxable amount = 0
Tax payable = 0

But a lot of people have this Tidak Apa attitude, say below RM30k no need to declare, don't waste time fill up form, etc. doh.gif Later when get caught/audit, make a lot of noise say govt is stupid need to declare this lah, that lah doh.gif doh.gif
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Mar 26 2009, 02:35 PM)
usually get caught/audit if your income is taxable.....that including when u suddenly buy a car or a house

i think they wont bother with u if your income is below taxable amount.....maybe for those with business license

my salary is below taxable income....and i didnt fill any form for almost 5-6 years....never see anyone knock on my door before  whistling.gif
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They do random audit lah. laugh.gif
I kena before, but nothing to scare, as I have everything in order including receipts and explanation. Just like going to interview and show your certs, etc. tongue.gif
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post Mar 26 2009, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Mar 26 2009, 03:34 PM)
they got so hardworking o not  tongue.gif

u got "audit" coz u never fill in form? or for other reason?

must be u no fill form then suddenly u buy house"s" or Car's" thats why they audit you?
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No other reason, they just random pick me. I asked them anything, they say nothing specific. They did not ask any weird questions or deep probe also. Just ask mana receipt ini insuran nyawa ? Apasal tak declare bulan November XX (cause in between new job after resign, show them EPF statements) Mana receipt donation ini ? Mana slip resit bayaran income tax tahun dahulu ?

QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Mar 26 2009, 04:08 PM)
most likely not...unless u declare 50k...then suddenly u buy a house with 70k down payment

70k down payment means full amount = 700k?
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Even if you declare 100k, but buy a house at 90k cash, LHDN may question how you survive on 10k PER YEAR. It is possible to survive on less than that, but they'll ask you further or for you to prove to them. They may ask further questions like your car loan, your dressing (armani on 10k per year? tongue.gif ), etc. If you say pay car cash that you buy last year, then doh.gif

90k house (cash) + 50k car (cash) = 140k cash > 100k declared income. sweat.gif
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post Mar 26 2009, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Mar 26 2009, 06:21 PM)
i tot declare is year income....not how much u save...
by the way... are your income taxable? u got higher chances of getting audit if u r
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Yes, then LHDN will start to query all your previous years income, tax declaration (why no declare ???) , huge purchases, stock shares, overseas holiday, branded/luxury goods, where you stay, who own the house, etc. It must make sense for all the years of income and expenses.

If you say parents (or someone) give you money, even better. rclxms.gif LHDN will call them up to audit as well asking similiar questions like above, if your answers are too fishy. Then you get your parents into trouble (if they ever evade tax) rolleyes.gif

The reasoning is, be logical. If it doesn't sounds right, there is high chance of cheat/fraud (tax evasion).

Yes, I'm taxable. rclxub.gif Maybe I should start find work in HK/SG (lower 10+% max tax only)
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post Apr 10 2009, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(keeseng12 @ Apr 10 2009, 07:49 AM)
have a question here.
income tax is for previous year of assessment, which mean this year we are doing the income tax declaration for year 2008.
here's the question, does it mean from Jan '08 to Dec '08 or from Mac/April '08 (the month we pay tax) to Mac/April '09?

reason behind this question is that suddenly i receive another EA form from my previous company. i'm really confused to the max here of which amount to declare. at first was clear till my previous company suddenly send me another EA form.
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Declare tax from Jan-Dec.

Look closely at your previous company EA form. If it is for salary Jan'08 to Dec'08, then you will declare it in year 2009. If it is salary for Jan'09 to Mar'09, then keep the EA form and declare it in year 2010.
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post Apr 10 2009, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(keeseng12 @ Apr 10 2009, 04:45 PM)
thanks for the clarification.

the situation is like this.
I was working for my previous company from 2007 till May 2008 and join new company on the following week till present.
Previously, after i quitted my previous company, they gave me an EA form indicating an amount of money (which i presume it should be salary from Jan 08 till May 08). The tile of the EA form is written "Till December 2008". (let say the amount of gross salary is around RM11K)

Then yesterday, i received an additional EA form from my previous company again. the amount of gross salary is around RM2K. which making me believe that it should be for May 08 (that month itself). It's quite confusing.
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Call up and get clarificaiton from your previous Jan-May'08 employer. If it is clear up as e.g. salary after leaving or bonus paid, etc. then just total up for Penggajian:
Jan-May'08 + May'08 extra + Jun-Dec'08 new job
= 11k + 2k + ??k

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post Apr 14 2009, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(qcs @ Apr 13 2009, 05:10 PM)
hi all, i need help from this issue,
If I am working for oversea company (europe) based in Malaysia as technician for south east asia markets. My company  pay me salary to local bank every  month. But my company not register in Malaysia, and I also not pay for EPF. Should I pay for Incometax?

thanks for your answer
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Assume your company is not registered here (not discussing legality of it or not)
1) Your salary is paid in RM or foreign currency ? I assume is TT into your local a/c every month (SWIFT code)
2) Based on the TT amount, BNM will have all the track records. I used to received TT <RM20k per month, including expenses, but I was not audited. My friend was receiving >RM50k and was questioned by BNM to justify for it.
3) If your co does not pay you EPF, where does the Employer portion goes to ? Do they pay you the extra amount ?

My suggestion to you:
i) Claim/Submit your EPF to get the Employers ~13%. Goto EPF counter, and request for an employer ID for own self-submission (i.e. sole-proprietor paying salary to ownself). Then you have to submit it monthly yourself.

ii) Tell your company, you need EPF. You think want to try run away from tax and not declare ? Refer #2 above, BNM has all the records, whether is worth it for you to evade tax or not.

iii) Have clear paperwork a/c on your basic salary, commission, bonus, expenses claimed, etc. Only submit the income portion and not the expenses claimed (e.g. help company buy small spare parts)

In this way, you get:
a) The employer 13% EPF + minus your own contribution 8/11%
b) You get to submit proper income tax
c) Your monies are clear.

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post Apr 16 2009, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(InTheRush @ Apr 16 2009, 11:13 AM)
hi all...
i'm not sure if i need to submit income tax filing for 2008..
n i dun think i hav a file no yet since HR did not open for me..
thus.. do i need to file for this year's?

from jan08 - march08
i got gross salary of rm2153 per month

from apr 08 - dec 08
i got gross salary of rm 2400 per month, and allowance of rm 200
no PCB deductions show in my payslip

thus, do i need to file?
and i need to go to LHDN to open a file?
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A lot of your friends/families will tell you:
1) no need declare since below xxx amount
2) don't waste time go open file, etc.
3) no need pay tax, declare for what ?
etc. Tidak apa attitude

My advise, just take half-day off, goto LHDN and request open a new file (or ask them check MyKad if you file-number is already created, but your company did not inform you). Then start to fill up and declare using form/online, even though not taxable. It is good to practice and learn first, for your future years.

Then, remember pass your income tax file number to your company HR/Finance for their records.
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post Apr 17 2009, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(InTheRush @ Apr 17 2009, 09:48 AM)
suddenly my HR said i have a file.. and it wasnt stated in the EA form or so..

thus, can i ask can i verify w LHDN tat my number is correct? coz i dun think i can trust my hr fully..

btw... i cant find the working hours of LHDN branches on the website.. any ideas?
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LHDN Working Hours

Just provide your MyKad to LHDN to verify/get your file number.

QUOTE(mo_meng @ Apr 17 2009, 11:26 AM)
i didn't receive any form requires for me to submit the income tax coz i not working in malaysia anymore
some more the div receive suppose to be TE tax exempted or already tax deducted so it is illegal for me to not submit the form?
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It is like making U-Turn at a junction without any U-Turn sign. It can be legal/illegal. tongue.gif
However, it is a duty to declare any INCOME smile.gif
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(kevintth @ Apr 22 2009, 12:02 AM)
lol... ok what i meant is should i declare the oversea income as RM to fill in the BE form?
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As long as your sister in NZ does not remit money back into MY, then just declare RM0 in BE form and submit.

QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 22 2009, 09:32 AM)
A quick question: does Malaysia have capital gains taxes? If I sell a house at a profit, do I need to declare the extra money above original purchase price as income?
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RPGT is abolished since a few years ago.

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post Apr 29 2009, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Apr 28 2009, 10:49 PM)
this few days is peak period for submission..you either do it after midnight or before 8am..somemore with office network baru fast..else our 1MB broadband will like siput...

** btw anyone 'cheated' in your declaration ?? How they suppose to 'trace' ?
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I tried whole day yesterday from office network - leased line with guaranteed upload & download bandwidth, unlike broadband best-effort basis. sweat.gif LHDN website too slow. Finally submitted it this morning 1am+ sweat.gif tongue.gif

Tomorrow (last day) going over to pay by physical cheque and get a physical temporary-receipt (old school rolleyes.gif )

Cheat ? rolleyes.gif Same like cheating in exam. No one catch/audit you, you are lucky. Get caught, either retake the exam (pay fees/penalty) or get kicked out (tax evasion - court case/jail/etc.) and get sleepless night.

They trace by randomly audit people. Like an interview, they will ask you show this receipt, that receipt, ask you explain this, explain why that, where you stay, with who, what car you drive, got go holidays, overseas/local, see what you wear, etc. If you don't have proper proof ->> doh.gif

If you say parents/relatives give you money, even better. They'll start audit your dad, mom, uncle, etc. doh.gif doh.gif Drag all in one net.
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post Apr 29 2009, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(nothingz @ Apr 29 2009, 12:03 PM)
is it really that bad, i was able to log in and proceed with e-filing last night from 7pm onwards
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7pm-10pm+ I went out for dinner tongue.gif
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post Apr 30 2009, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(nothingz @ Apr 29 2009, 06:34 PM)
the 1 time in 6 years is crap, how many tax returns were filed each year and how many IRB officers are there in the country?  I have attended a seminar talked by a former IRB officer, he made a calculation that you will only be selected for auditing once in 20 years, however everytime they investigate you, it may be for few years, eg Y/A 2002-2006. 

to all of you out there, evade tax at your own risk  laugh.gif
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Yes, they will audit for several years, about 3-5 years back. sweat.gif If everything in order and not suspicious, it will be done in <20 min. rolleyes.gif Else be prepared for hours/days sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kiddo @ Apr 30 2009, 06:39 PM)
I thought under the new budget announced, some of the allowance are tax-exempted. How will the officer know how much if I total-up both salary & allowance in the same slot?
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Your finance/HR should have taken out the allowance from the EA form salary, or to itemised it for you to declare. Refer earlier postings in this thread and also this thread.

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post May 26 2009, 10:04 AM

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Not audit. Just check and verify all the computations are correct and the figures doesn't look funny to them (not you). If audit, they will call you to come in for an appointment, bring all the relevant documents, receipts, etc.
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I thought the rule of the thumb is, if no receipt, do not try your luck by putting into deductions. hmm.gif

Receipt lost/misplaced/don't have/don't know is not acceptable by LHDN audit. They will take out the amount and re-calculate the taxable amount. Worse, they fine you for wrong/falso submission. The small fine RM50 maybe 10x more than the amount deducted.
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Also, if you work in countries which does not have double-taxation rules (e.g. SG), then you can bring in your money legally, caused you already paid taxes in that country.


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