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 Official Bold 9900 Discussion Thread, A place for Sharing and Discussion..

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post Aug 29 2011, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(chokey84 @ Aug 29 2011, 12:51 PM)
i try to update to this leaked os.. but when i click load OS, it says no OS found, Please install a OS for your phone.. how to solve eh?
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in that case, use Blackberry Desktop Manager.
remember to delete the vendor.xml file first.
:\program files\common files\Research in motion\apploader


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post Aug 29 2011, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Secret Hunter @ Aug 29 2011, 02:10 PM)
guys, which celcom branch is the biggest n best who have stock for BB9900?
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some say its in pavillion, some say ttdi.
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post Aug 30 2011, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(iiee @ Aug 29 2011, 08:35 PM)
Haiz, called Celcom careline and they told me Celcom Seremban not carrying stock, but the Celcom Authorized Dealer next door got it.  So i drive 2 hours there, and found the dealer having 1x 9900 and 1x 9810.  however they said the units they have are for standalone sale and not Celcome package @#%&$xx... Brightstar one.

What to do, already there, drive another 2 hours empty hand meh... so just play with 9900 and 9810 for 30min, donno which one to choose, a while told the shop i decided on 9810; then wait wait 9900 is better, then 9810 again zzz... the sale person also pening with me.  Last last chosen 9900. 

After buying next step is go back to Celcom center to register what internet plan for BB.  Now the unit is charging, wait till midnight only play.

I prefer 9810 actually, if not because i have fat thumb it will be my only choice.  This is my first BB phone.
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congrats! u r a true BB fan! rush all the way to seremban.
anyway, i've written a strongly worded letter to condemn celcom marketing team for not having everything ready except for the web page.
they are cheating wt achieving their KPIs mad.gif
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QUOTE(iiee @ Aug 30 2011, 12:50 PM)
Wah bro, good lar you, if i want to write also donno whom to write to, donno who in charge of what department.  Send to wrong person just ends up in dustbin.

Still learning the phone.  I'm from Windows Mobile 6, still feel BB difficult to navigate.  The trackpad is not as good as Dpad of WM6 especially at accurate cursor by cursor movement.  Typing 1 hand without looking at screen also not as good as numpad of WM6 (ehem, sms while driving is an offence...). Unable to sketch something using stylus.  Other than that is ok, speed is fast.  Screen resolution VGA is the same as my 4 years old WM6 only difference is potrait and landscape.

The company i work has BES (lotus), but i donno how to setup.  It seems like need activation number to key into the phone?  Too bad i am low rank employee the company won't setup for me  sad.gif

9900 seems to have better screen compared to 9810, side by side compare at default setting, 9900 display quality is obviously clearer and lively.  Because of glass vs plastic?
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just send to their customer service, cc local newspapers and websites.
sure to get their attention.


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post Aug 31 2011, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(netbeans @ Aug 31 2011, 12:00 PM)
Maxis webpage still accepting "register your interest", and no package plan yet.
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maxis - king of iphone and android
celcom - king of blackberry

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QUOTE(frantic912 @ Aug 31 2011, 05:56 PM)
time to change to celcom but i still need this phone number....arghh should i take 2 phone....  sad.gif
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Use MNP if u r not tied to contract.
Keep same number but different company.
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post Sep 1 2011, 03:47 PM

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is the 4 main buttons (call/BB/Back/End) panel flushed with the screen?
mine is not.
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QUOTE(kmrdeva @ Sep 1 2011, 03:59 PM)

Yes, they are flushed with the screen's glass as far as I can see. Only the touchpad thingy protrudes from the button bezel.
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try running ur fingers from screen inwards to the button panel.
let me know if u feel a slight notch.

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QUOTE(kmrdeva @ Sep 1 2011, 04:57 PM)
Very slight notch I think. The screen glass a fraction of a mm higher, maybe?
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i will try to go brightstar center to check if can get replacement.
in crackberry, some have perfectly flushed screens, some have slighly sunken button panels like us.

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QUOTE(LiteBulb @ Sep 2 2011, 08:50 PM)
3g utilises alot of juice.  i could last for days on 2g network.

maybe i will try 2g with wifi always on.
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in addition, 3g coverage is lousy in malaysia, even klg valley area.
if u turn on 3g, the smartphone will use a lot of battery juice to try and stay on 3g especially when signal is week.

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QUOTE(ViRaViRa @ Sep 2 2011, 02:56 PM)
I would suggest you to use your current telco if you are happy with it. DiGi is a little risky where at some places, you almost can't access the internet even on EDGE mode. Their network has got a little bad recently but luckily, my area is still OK on EDGE (3G is gone case).

If you are looking for a cheaper option, then DiGi might fit into your plan.
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king of network coverage and reasonable price - celcom
king of brand image and hefty price - maxis
king of economy - digi

unless u r unhappy with ur current telco, suggest u stick with it.
if u wanna test digi network, can test drive using prepaid pack.
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QUOTE(Secret Hunter @ Sep 2 2011, 09:17 PM)
icic.. Thanks all. I think I will go for Celcom, but Im not sure about the speed coz i always unable my 3G..
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fastest speed among the big 3 is maxis. but ever since they discontinue unlimited data plan, it can be very expensive if u do not monitor ur usage carefully.

unless u spend most of ur time in urban areas and absolutely demand fastest speed all the time, then maxis is for u.

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 3 2011, 03:58 PM)
I came to realise the presence of another Bold 9900 thread (https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1836164)

Would everyone prefer to have one thread for 9900 or possibly one for every telco like Celcom 9900, DiGi 9900, Maxis 9900, U Mobile 9900, Tunetalk 9900?
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yeah let's merge, become happy family. thumbup.gif

but originator must be dedicated enough to start threads well and maintain it.


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QUOTE(sonyclie77 @ Sep 3 2011, 09:35 PM)
I've just merged both the Bold 9900 threads into 1.
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Close and merge this thread as well.
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QUOTE(kmrdeva @ Sep 4 2011, 03:37 PM)
No lag that I can notice, not sure what the article writer is referring to. On 2g battery is more than enough for me to last a whole day without recharging (3g is ok for 10 plus hours only). The 9900 is the fastest phone I have ever used, seriously. Not even my Galaxy Tab (7) or Galaxy S running Cyanogenmod7 is as quick, and the keyboard shortcuts of the 9900 are very useful and handy.
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Didn't experience any lags so far. it's speedy and behaves fine as a phone.
like i always say, battery life doesn't bother me too much as long as it can last 8 - 10 hours.
there are ways to overcome it like spare batteries, additional chargers etc.

it uses microUSB charge so the chargers are quite cheap.
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QUOTE(adrive @ Sep 4 2011, 10:09 PM)
hey guys, does the 9900 come with a pouch? i went and asked senq in penang they say they don't include it..as i remember, bold series always had pouch!
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perhaps they took it out and sold it off! how can senq allows their staff to do such things!!! vmad.gif

u r absolutely right. it does come with a very nice pouch.
u can report to the authorities if u have actual proof.
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QUOTE(static @ Sep 5 2011, 06:03 PM)
What is bad? The 9900's speaker is alright for me, most of the time on silent mode anyway  tongue.gif
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do a comparison against a sample unit or a friend's.
speaker phone is loud, crisp and clear.
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QUOTE(adrive @ Sep 6 2011, 05:34 PM)
I remember I was told that registring it online with brightstar is enough
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process of sending back warranty card is so redundant. this process is over 30 years old!

IT companies like brightstar, samsung shld lead the way to reduce paper usage.
usually i will not send it, just retain it to ensure resale value in the future.
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QUOTE(yjeen @ Sep 6 2011, 09:03 PM)
Hey All,

Do you guys know if the BB 9900 from DIGI is unlock so that it can be used with different telco? Planing to sign up for the DG smart plan but giving my wife the phone.

My wife is on Maxis by the way.

Thanks.
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Yes can.
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Explanation of bb9900 camera

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I've read some concern about how the removal of the autofocus feature on the new devices is somehow a downgrade in the camera. I made the analogy that people don't and shouldn't only by phones for the camera eluding to the fact pocket cameras don't have telephone call capabilities.

The confusion lies with peoples' misunderstanding of cameras and the focussing systems used by cameras. Just because RIM removed the autofocus feature doesn't mean you aren't getting any autofocus in your images.

We are all familiar with the 9780 or 9700 camera right? (I hope so). You've all encountered the pressing of the trackpad, the camera stalls as it is focussing and then snaps the picture. That delay is what is commonly referred to as shutter lag.

It is unwise to suggest that the 9900 has an inferior camera because that feature is gone. Quite contrary in my view. Autofocus has not been lost. The camera is still focussing but in continuous mode.

For the most part people don't yet realize the difference between autofocus and continuous focus. This leads to the confusion.

Given that my hobby next to guitar is photography I will try to help in this regard.

How may times in autofocus have you tried to snap a photo only for the subject to move as you were about to snap the picture?...the end result is an unusable image.

Autofocus is the most widely supported camera focus mode, In essence it is one-shot focusing, which is best for still subjects. The autofocus mode as I just provided an example for is susceptible to focus errors for fast moving subjects or subjects that move before the shutter is fully pressed. Autofocus cannot anticipate subject motion. Auto focus is great when you have a perfectly still subject. The focusing requires a focus lock before the photograph can be taken. This is what people on their 9870 or os 6 devices notice when taking pictures. That slight freeze ....then "click" when the image is taken.

Check your 9780 ... in camera options go to "Autofocus" tou will see there is continuous listed first then "single shot".

The single shot is what has been removed.

I'll bet you a dollar that most people didn't even realize they have been shooting continuous focus all this time with their 9780 but are now making an issue out of a feature that they never used not being available...ie the "single shot" focus. Continuous focus was always an option on the 9780 .

Most people though barely used it and I'll bet never knew it was there.

Most people don't even use the scene modes by the way ... believe me ... they help ... I can't tell you the number of times I've been a rock concerts and see people snapping images of the stage with a flash when they are 60 feet away from the stage! That's what night or party scene modes are for. Flash at that distance is going to illuminate the head of the guy standing in front of you...not the image. Get to know your scene modes for better images and don't blame the camera. I am veering off topic so my apologies.

Bank on point.....

Continuous focus, supports an autofocus mode which continually adjusts the focus distance for moving subjects.

Nikon cameras refer to this mode as continuous focus which is what we see in the new Bold 9900. (Not Nikon’s focussing system though but they just called it the same). Those with Canon cameras notice this referred to as AI Servo focusing.

Continuous focussing works by predicting where the subject will be slightly in the future based on an estimation of the subject velocity using focus distance and movement. The camera then focuses at this predicted distance in advance to account for the shutter lag (which is the delay between pressing the shutter button and the start of the exposure as we see in autofocus shots in the 9780). This greatly increases the probability of correct focus for moving subjects.

There is no "downgrade" going on with regards to no autofocus in the 9900 device. The camera in the bold 9900 is still auto-focussing but doing so on in a continuous mode...continually tracking the subject.

How many times have you tried taking a picture of someone blowing out a birthday candle with your 9780 only to get it blurry because the camera was trying to lock focus? During that lag, your subject blew out the candles and you missed the shot!

Now do that in continuous focus and chances are you have a clear shot. Now, drop the preview picture setting down to as low as possible (I believe you can turn it right off on the 9900) and then you can snap away even quicker!

I shoot photography as an advanced hobby. I can tell you that even when shooting still subjects I utilize continuous focus (this is a $2,000 camera body) just in case I get some movement.

So to answer your question...you are not getting an inferior camera. With all due respect, people just need to know how to use the camera. As the old saying goes, the cost of the gear doesn't make you a better photographer...it is what you do with the equipment you have that does.

By the way, my $2,000 camera still doesn't make telephone calls or accept incoming email or BBM messages. 

The excuse has been used many times before yes ... that other devices offer better cameras. Oh well ... the buyer needs to realize what he/she is buying the device for. Will they be buying it for the RIM reliability, security and fastest push services in the industry or are they buying it for entertainment purposes?

I hope this clears the air.

I have taken great shots with my 9900 .. clear and crisp ... arguably better than the 9780 on which I too used continuous focus extensively.

Learn when to use the proper scene modes and don't sweat the absence of "autofocus" or single shot focus as was known on the 9780. The camera is still focussing!! It is just focussing differently.


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