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post Aug 15 2011, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(bulldog2 @ Aug 14 2011, 05:18 PM)
Hi

I just got a Samsung ps3d491 from sent Q and I know its a budget 3d plasmacame with 2 free specs and 3d movies

Any body here can share settings for PS 3 killzone 3d  setting and 3d movies ?

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U can use my setting, which on my first post... for the killzone, i use the ingame 3d depth to half... anyway... killzone in 3d for me not that good.. best is socom 4, ftw...

Cell Light: 8
Brightness: 65
Contrast: 42
Sharpness: 40
Colour: 45
Tint: G50/R50
Gamma: -2
Flesh tone: 0

White balance
R-Offset: 27
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 26
R-Gain: 32
G-Gain: 20
B-Gain: 25

All other settings is set to OFF

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post Aug 17 2011, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(blue1ce @ Aug 16 2011, 10:25 AM)
I need to purchase a Tv soon and i saw the Samsung 46D6600 to be one of the nicest in terms of design, refresh rate 400hz, and picture quality. However, i've no idea in terms of 3d quality of experience... Any comments on this tv. Rm 5249 with 2 free 3d glasses... worthy buy?
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well.. for 3DTV.. i wont recommend a 3D LCD/LED TV, cause the crosstalk/ghosting is most of the time is noticeable during 3d viewing... so far the only exception is on Sharp LE830 which has a the best 3d performance for LED/LCD...

Would recommend you to look for the samsung plasma instead, the 51PS6900... its within your price range, this TV has a better 3D performance and hav a larger screen, 51"....

U can read the review here http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-ps51d6900_TV_review

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post Aug 19 2011, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(bulldog2 @ Aug 19 2011, 02:16 PM)
Azsace,

with the recomendded settings picture seems very dark lar...cant see where I am running in Killzone !!kekek
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yep... definitely do agree that the pic is a bit dark.. but its sufficient if u play under low light condition (not dark, just low light)..

if u read my first post, for me 3d viewing is only for night time... (regardless movie or gaming)
anyway, if u play under bright condition, u'll notice flickering

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post Aug 20 2011, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(perror @ Aug 20 2011, 03:19 PM)
Hi guys, I'm in the market for a decent 50 inch Plasma 3D HDTV. Currently i'm deciding between either the ST30K or the VT20K. The VT20K seems to be going cheaper than the ST30K as the VT20K is last year's model. Which one would you guys reckon to be a better choice?smile.gif
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well... not sure why people want to get the 2010 vt20k model, definitely that model was the best model for 2010.. but now, its 2011, the samsung plasma D6900 is even better compared to that TV (overall)...
and the pana st30k is even better compared to above mention TV...

if i were you, i'll get the pana st30k. retail price for this tv is a bit ridicilous, rm7999, with that price, not worth the money (come with freebies 3d blu ray n 3d movies)... get this tv if u can get it below rm6k (below 6k easier if u bought from lowyat seller, retail shop, u need to bargain
if not, get the samsung plasma d6900, get it for below rm5.5k (this is easier cause sen heng also sell below this price)

2010 pana vt20k, dont consider, dont waste ur time...
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post Aug 22 2011, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(mcat84 @ Aug 20 2011, 10:36 PM)
wow....everyone go for big big tv.....too bad i don't watch tv at living room (no chances to watch, tv occupy by parents)....usually watch at computer screen or notebook.....

ha ha ...eyeing for smaller 3D monitor....the LG Cinema 23" 3D monitor...RM1099....planning to buy next month.....wishing for 32" passive 3D tv but Malaysia not selling
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Hmmm, actually i'm also looking for another 3dtv, smaller size... thinking to get 27" size, lower than that may not be a good option...
i'm looking at samsung 27", havent found and demoed it yet..
btw, the LG 23" 3d monitor where available, lowyat? just wanted to hav a look cause their passive 3dtv is really impressive
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QUOTE(bbsanta @ Aug 22 2011, 05:11 PM)
Do you by chance know where i get to view the LE830 3d content sample. i not sure why they didn't set up the stand with the glasses like other brand do. been through alot of places. cry.gif
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For this TV, when I demoed and tested it was in Sen Heng. They didnt setup the TV, so I need to ask from the sales assistant..
i dont think it will be an issues if u just ask to demoed the TV...


Added on August 22, 2011, 10:04 pm
QUOTE(mcat84 @ Aug 22 2011, 05:23 PM)
OK....finally the 32" Passive LG Cinema 3D is out at Carrefour : 32LW4500

Price = RM1799 plus 7 glasses...
Test during lunch time, quite rush.....do a quick test on Tron Legacy 3D....(3D not so good for this movie)

1. no flickering
2. Certain scenes have crosstalk (still acceptable)
3. eyes level can't be above the screen level...else no 3d
4. glasses look cheap (since i am wearing spectacle, i still prefer those like Nvidia 3D vision glasses which cover my whole spectacle)
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good to know, will drop by to local carrefour when have the time. personal opinion, the 4+size was impressive... but the 5+ size was not that good..
my concern on this model based on review, this tv may not be a good gaming TV since the input lag is more thanb 40ms... which is bad...

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post Aug 24 2011, 12:10 PM

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Oh yeah... ipoh dont have carrefour, so i guess need to find the 32 LG TV elsewhere... (i can easily find the 42 size here... hmmm, the LW4500 series)

My initial plan was to get the pana 32" DT30, but pity its not selling here
and since the sharp new LE830 3d experience also good, i wanted to get that, but again no 32 size

im still reserving for the 27" samsung 9series pc monitor, but if i get this, i will wait until nvidia release a driver to fully support this monitor...


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post Aug 26 2011, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(plankton @ Aug 25 2011, 04:09 PM)
Ive learned a lot of info from this thread. thx.

Im eyeing the LG 42LW4500, selling at 3199 at Harvey Norman Mid Valley. Usuall free gifts are the party pack and a Tangled 3d Bluray.

Regarding the horizontal resolution, apparently theres going to be an update to the firmware for all the models (4500,5700,6500) that handles this.

just forwarding the info in case anyones interested:

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subac...l&id=1313938337
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LW4500, definitely one of the better 3DTV for home usage. with the party pack, overall if im not mistaken u'll have 7 3d glasses... wow.. me so jealous... u can share ur 3d experience with so many people

yep.. read the review, not bad, seems they have improve the "scanning/window blind" effect... and also notice from the review, u need to increase the viewing distance a bit, but thats not a major issues...

oh yeah, since u getting this TV and if use it to play some games, do give comment on its input lag, personally, do u think its noticeable?... one of the reason why I dont actually want to get this TV is only because of this issues...

And seriously, does this TV has the 32" size... i did try to look for it... mana jumpa... (if KL, easy to find this TV ka, since im planning to go to KL and look at the samsung 27 3D monitor)

Oh yeah, i think i need to update my post.. some people ask whether I regret buying my PS51D490... for 3D viewing, i strongly believe this is the best value 3DTV so far...
Currently this TV u can get less than rm4k,
Picture quality great
Size, 51", a very reasonable size, very satisfy to watch it
3D viewing, superb (PSXXD6900 and above series is a just a bit better, to untrained eye, maybe wont notice the difference)
HD content looks marvelous
SD content looks good
Glaring 5ucks, but with anti screen filter, not an issue anymore

and the big question... whats my regret..
simple, i cant actually use it to watch 3dmovies since, if want to watch a 3d movie, i need to hav at least 3 glasses (1 for me, 1 for wifey n other 1 for kid) so far i only hav 2... and this active glasses is kinda expensive, cheapest i can find was rm249
n once in a while during friend and family gathering (for movie), i need more.. most of the time i need 5 glasses, occasionally need 7, rarely 9. if i get another 3, i need to spend around rm750... n that just for the glasses...
if im not mistaken, official price for this glass is rm449...

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post Aug 26 2011, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(mcat84 @ Aug 26 2011, 01:50 PM)
don't waste your time trying to look for Samsung 27" 3D monitor for demo....they have no demo unit to demo (all inside boxes).....they do have the 23" 3D open box (but no 3d glasses to test).....
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well, thanks for the advise... perhaps i can at least try the 23"
did look around on some reviews on this monitor... bad news.. no good/convincing review so far... perhaps i should wait until another year to get a second tv for my house...

but kinda hard, since i njoy 3d gaming so much... hard to go back...
side note: ps3 is not actually a good 3d gaming machine, not many 3d title..
but if pc.. fuiyo, almost all game is 3d... even the good old games


Added on August 26, 2011, 8:35 pm
QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 26 2011, 06:55 PM)
I thought 42LW4500 more than RM4000?

If then my purchase of 42LX6500 at RM3999 on february is a waste!
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perhaps u should think it another way.. u manage to get urself a good led tv...


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post Sep 3 2011, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Fyrekat @ Aug 30 2011, 05:57 PM)
Hi azsace,

I was searching for info on the LG PV250 when I stumbled on this thread and only after reading it I realised you are from Ipoh so I think you will probably be the best person to help me since I am also from Ipoh.

I'm shopping for a 50" plasma TV and actually don't care about 3D content at this time. Usage will mostly consist of watching Astro (in HD if possible, usually for football, AXN, etc), movies/series/anime via media player (720p/1080p stuff), and console gaming (PS3). I also usually only watch TV at night so hopefully the reflection issue is not so bad (but I usually do have downlights in the room on)

From the reading I have done so far, most people say that even if I don't want to use it with 3D content, many current 3D TVs will give better picture quality for 2D content compared to non-3D TVs.

So, what would you recommend I get? I was originally considering the Panasonic 50U30K, but was also recommended the LG PV250. Both are less than RM3K now. I can probably go up to RM6K in terms of budget but don't want to spend for unnecessary features (read: 3D, which I know is ironic seeing as I am asking in a thread about 3D stuff tongue.gif). I don't mind doing so for better picture quality.

Also, any recommendation on where to do my shopping in Ipoh?
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Well... if u want to shop for TV its depend on the manufacturer.. for pana would recommend the panashop near to jusco...
for samsung n lg would recommend the shop near the mcD (at the entry to PLUS highway, jusco area also, near brother car accessories)
do nego on the price.. cause usually the first price they quote a bit higher...
PV250 has an AR filter (if u turn off the TV u notive its look a bit greenish)... which is a plus,
anyway... another TV I would recommned for u to look/view is the samsung PS51D6900... If I dont mind spending rm5.5k, definitely this is the TV i would get... dont buy it if its more than that.. n if u good u can get it for rm5199 or even cheaper...

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post Sep 3 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(thereefster @ Sep 3 2011, 09:17 AM)
samsung 46" 6series LED 3d smart tv are they good??
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personally i feel this led 3dtv is not good. so far only sharp le830 is worth buying if u wana look for led 3dtv...

but again.. trust ur eyes.. n do a comparison with at least the ps51d6900... price not much different also..


Added on September 3, 2011, 11:40 pm
QUOTE(plankton @ Sep 3 2011, 11:47 AM)
postponing my purchase for now. gonna hang on to my crt tv for a little longer smile.gif
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hmm.. not a bad choice.. if u can postpone till u can find the tv to ur liking.. better hold it.. me also take around 4months til i purchase my tv... better wait than regret

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post Sep 15 2011, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(quezone @ Sep 14 2011, 12:39 AM)
how about LG 42" 3D plasma tv (42pw450)?
is pretty cheap now...
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Yep... its pretty cheap now
This tv has a resolution of 1024X768. If u want to connect this TV to a PC... would not recommend to buy it...

On 3D performance, it reasonably good. this is one of the TV which I compared with my TV... the 3D performance is less compared to PS51D490... (but its better compared to most last year model)... I would say its 3d performance significantly better if compared to most 3d LED tv...

another tv with a bit more price (just slight diff) is samsung PS43D490 (also 1024X768 resolution)...

my recommendation if its for 42" 3dtv, i would go for, LG 42LW4500, passive TV, but it cost more than 3k.. less than 3.5k , make sure u get at least 7passive 3d glasses with it (wow... now this TV the price is really cheap, can get for rm2999)

btw.. for 3d, its for movie or for games?

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post Sep 21 2011, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ Sep 19 2011, 05:37 PM)
Just want to share an interesting article regarding 3D Technology by Dr. Raymond Soneira of DisplayMate Technologies.

http://www.displaymate.com/3D_TV_ShootOut_1.htm

and here summaries from Gizmodo
A good read for those (like me) who are still undecided whether to take a dive or not  brows.gif
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Thanks. I did read this review.. definitely a good review... but one thing im disappointed... cause they compared it with Sony LED 3DTV and Samsung LED 3DTV... and from experience, this TV definitely has significant crosstalk compared to the LG Passive 3DTV..
They should test it with at least a Sharp LED 3DTV (the best 3DTV in term of crosstalk performance) or Pana plasma / Samsung plasma
from my experience, Pana/Samsung plasma has a better crosstalk performance compared to the passive LG LED 3DTV...
And another thing, they didnt make a comparison for the bigger size panel (more than 50").. again from experience, with the old LG firmware, "window blind" / scan effect is noticeable


Added on September 21, 2011, 11:31 am
QUOTE(pokjak_290 @ Sep 21 2011, 02:30 AM)
hi admin & friends, review for sony ex720 + calibration 3d display please..wink.gif
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Hmm.. demoed the ex720 a while back ago... 3d performance, not good at all...
if u looking for 3DTV, better go
active LED 3DTV
- Sharp LE830 series

passive LED 3DTV
- LG Passive 3D TV, any model (size between 32 and 47 only). more than that not recommended

active plasma 3DTV
- samsung PS51D6900

n if u dont mind paying a lot more, go for pana ST30K series


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post Sep 23 2011, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(valho @ Sep 22 2011, 07:46 PM)
so the 40" sony ex720 is really that bad eh, was thinking of getting it but since it's 3D performance is bad, not worth getting lo

the only others that I saw withing the price range of 40" sony ex720 is the Sharp LC40LE830M and LG 42LW4500 and LG 42LW5700, how's this two, worth getting for the occasional 3D movies and gaming?

actually if it's not really worth getting a 3D LCD/LED tv now, I'll probably just go for a cheaper 40" LCD/LED tv and only upgrade to 3D LCD/LED later
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kinda a hard question to answer...

if I want to share my 3d experience with friend (or hav large family member) i'll go for the LG passive, the 42LW5700.. im using active 3dtv.. so the only time i can use it when play games.. i cant watch 3d movies cause i dont have sufficient 3d glasses... its not fun to watch alone.. want to watch epl in 3d with friend also cannot...

but personally i think plasma active 3d glasses is still the best, but they are expensive, n the glasses also expensive
before u want to pursue the 3dtv, just demoed it first, to demoed every 3dtv is hard.. but at least u must demoed the LG 42LW5700 and samsung PS51D6900, if u feel the Samsung plasma active is better than the LG passive.. better hold the purchase next year

anyway, pros if u get it next year, for 2012
- most active 3d glasses will be standardised (pana, samsung, n sony will have compatible glass with each other, sadly sharp not in the pic)
- of course better FPR tech from LG
- samsung will also release their passive 3dtv which uses RDZ technology
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post Sep 27 2011, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(dopp @ Sep 25 2011, 09:06 PM)
The 3D glasses got so many types.. Are they all compatible?
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Nope.. different manufacturer uses different technology.. for 2010 n 2009 model, they are not compatible with each other...
so, if u hav Sharp, then u need Sharp glasses

but this is about to change starting 2012 model.. as these 3 manufacturer agreed to use compatible 3d glasses (Samsung, Pana and Sony)
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post Sep 30 2011, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Eason ooi @ Sep 28 2011, 09:57 AM)
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thanks for the thumbs up.. hope my impression is useful to u... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pokjak_290 @ Oct 3 2011, 04:05 AM)
hi,
i want buy blu ray home theater philip hts5561. I have sony ex720 n sony 3d glasses. I want use my sony 3d tv with new philip HT HTS5561. Can i use my sony 3d glasses with new home theater philip hts5561 itu? Or sy kena beli new 3d glasses from philip? Sorry for my bad english.. Hope u all understand what i mean..smile.gif
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The 3d glasses syn with your sony TV.. not with your home theather.. so not an issues if u bought any other home theather from other manufacturer...

To make it simple... i hav a samsung 3dtv... but my 3d blu ray is from Sony... since the glassses sync with the TV... no issues at all... useable...

but if u want to get new pair of 3d glasses.. it must be from the same manufacturer as ur tv... (as of 2011)
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QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Oct 4 2011, 07:58 PM)
TS, any chance u making a 3D game review of Gears of War 3??  unsure.gif
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Thanks for the suggestion.. but i dont think I'll be doing any 3d impression on Gears of War 3....

Anyway, just my thought on 3d gaming on xbox360... totally useless... i do not know why microsoft even bother to put the 3d function on the xbox360.. this console cant take it
game tried was on Call of Duty: Black Ops... the 3d function uses side-by-side format... not actually a dedicated 3d signal... thus it cut the resolution to half...
some people might says technically its not an issues cause signal full hd cut to half is unnoticeable.. yep this is true if ur full hd signal is native full hd...

problem is.. xbox360 is not native full hd... is only upscale full hd.. game like cod the native resolution is 1040 x 608, side by side is 520X608.. n this resolution is crap...

and just some thoughts... gear of war 3 will not be using active 3d.. its TriOviz anaglyph.. it can be played using the normal TV,,

oh yeah.. anyway.. i played gears of war 1 using my pc.. activate the 3d function.. fuiyo.. punya la best....


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post Oct 7 2011, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Oct 5 2011, 09:23 PM)
Just watched Final Destination 4 3D. The 3D effect is well done as it's shot in real 3D. This movie need to watch in 3D. Thor 3D is not very good. In fact, I find the whole movie a little blur compare to 2D version.
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Thanks for the recommendation.. was looking to get a new 3d blu ray movie... but havent got any idea on what movie is great...

final destination is not actually a bad movie... will look into amazon whether they have the combo pack...
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post Oct 11 2011, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(FCSB @ Oct 10 2011, 07:18 PM)
Whats the different between ur model and PS51D491?
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function wise. the same...
the difference.. the bezel/frame colour.. mine is dark rose.. i think 491 is dark blue..

anyway... notice the PS51D6900 price is less than rm5k now.. wow...
do wonder how much the PS51D490 n PS51D550 selling now..

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