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post Apr 11 2011, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 11 2011, 05:33 PM)
some spams of 35mm f/1.8  blush.gif
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post Apr 11 2011, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 11 2011, 05:59 PM)
one more, but not so sharp la . because i forget change iso from 200 to 1000... due to low light in paparich in garden there.  sweat.gif
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Added on April 11, 2011, 6:00 pm

i just bluff the date of purchase because i forget my date of purchase sweat.gif... but serial lucky today i got bring my camera in office.
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post Apr 12 2011, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Apr 12 2011, 12:38 PM)
Focus and recompose might make you OOF abit =). Play with angle then you know.

http://visual-vacations.com/Photography/fo...mpose_sucks.htm
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Sorry, but that one is for people who don't understand or don't know how to use their camera and shoot.

It's a technique, and as with technique, it depends how you use it. If there is problem, blame the user, not the technique.

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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Apr 12 2011, 01:05 PM)
hmm..i just want to tell Agito about this.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif . Just want to tell him not just only focus and recompose , got the techniques behind.

Yes , you right. I did not say focus and recompose sure will OOF. Just want to say focus and recompose will cause OOF. Right, It depends on your techniques,how you use.

Forget the website said focus and recompose suck, that is not what i mean. I also focus and recompose one. laugh.gif
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Hehe, actually I'm referring to the article writer when I see the title. The focus re-compose technique is not something new, plus it's widely use, especially when there is only 1 focus point, or for point and shoot, or handphone camera. For DSLR, it more towards how the user use the camera; ESPECIALLY, when they start to explore big aperture lens, go nuts with wide open, and not understanding DOF, focus plane, etc. ended up blaming everything else but themselves.


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QUOTE(s|dE @ Apr 12 2011, 01:45 PM)
because pf price  blush.gif
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Buy Agito's D70, so he can fund for his next body. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 03:28 PM)
personally i guess you get newer technology is more better and ya...resell value also higher  brows.gif


Added on April 12, 2011, 3:33 pmspam some bokehlicious pictures but...some picture focus wrong area  doh.gif
i need moar training  nod.gif

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I guess you're shooting close-up with 35mm f/1.8 @ f/1.8?
If yes, the DOF is shallow, and if you move even a little the focus plane will change; To test this, you can try use AF-C, then focus on one area and hold it. If the lens re-focus, it means you moved a little and the focus plane changed. In this situation, using AF-C you might get less chance of OOF; BUt with AF-C, you can't focus and re-compose.

IF you're using AF-S and shooting up-close @ f/1.8, and you're using focus and re-compose, then your problem is obvious.

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QUOTE(s|dE @ Apr 12 2011, 03:12 PM)
lens with af sysytem is more expensive smile.gif
that why i think body with AF motor is more reasonable..

i dont know much about DSLR field yet and what i know is just only from my reading.

and i refer to you all pros here to help me smile.gif
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Another good reason is for the controls and information screen. Low End bodies which need to set many things in many are like High end compact in DSLR body, missing the feature of a complete DSLR? Not sure how to put in words... but for me, if I'm looking for a DSLR, I want the features and controls of a DLSR... but that's me, everyone has their own opinion. I believe the entry level is target for people who wanted a DSLR, but might not want to go in detail on it, they might want the easy-to-use like a compact digital camera but performance of a DSLR, hence the entry level comes with many simple interactive menu, guides, help, etc. But nowadays, compacts have started to improved, especially with mirrorless technology, and there's Sony NEX, using sensor size similar to a DSLR.

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QUOTE(junior5417 @ Apr 12 2011, 03:55 PM)
f1.8 cannot focus and recompose? ohmy.gif
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Can... but... high chances of OOF if the focus plane changes; Also depends on the distance, when you're shooting close-up, the DOF is very shallow, slight movement at wide aperture, the focus plane will shift...

You want to experience the thrill and excitement, try shooting MACRO handheld at widest aperture.... brows.gif


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 03:56 PM)
ya i was using AF-S aiming on the head and recompose in f/1.8. doh.gif
dem...forget the "focus plane" will change easily when shooting small things with high detail... guess i need adjust to f/4 or higher? laugh.gif

in very big aperture like f1.8 or above... if object is quite close will higher chance get OOF like my case? unsure.gif
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When your DOF is shallow, you need to becareful with camera movement, even pressing the shutter button...
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 04:15 PM)
save longer for D90  rolleyes.gif  tongue.gif

@andy, if i wan sharper subject picture i need to make aperture smaller? hmm.gif
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If you want to focus and re-compose and you're shooting close up, then try using smaller aperture, you can stop down the aperture and try. Also make sure you hold the camera steady because close up shot, your slight movement (body/hand/camera) will affect the focus plane; You might not even know you did move, because when shooting close up, usually we take our time to compose the picture and shoot.
If you use Tripod, then the movement problem is very much reduced.

For your case, if you stop down too much, then it will affect the EFFECT you want to achieve, like you want to blur out certain parts; So you need to play around with the aperture to get the EFFECT you want, and still capable of letting you focus and re-compose. When you focus and recompose, try to maintain "within" the focus plane.

When you stop down, you need to compensate with slower shutter speed or increase ISO (if it's lowlight); In this case, shooting handheld, you have limited shutter speed, you have to revert to ISO; unless you're using tripod.
WHen you increase ISO, it will affect your overall image quality and sharpness; If you really want to maximize the performance, get good lighting or use flash. If you friend have flash gun, try borrow and bounce the flash off the wall, and experience the improvement on the overall image result you will be getting.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:07 PM)
then make it more soft brows.gif

photoshop duplicate the layer, grussian blur 3-4 px, set the layer on top of the default layer and set the layer type into overlay, adjust opacity according to your eyes and see the effect  laugh.gif  brows.gif
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Or more simple way, decrease clarity, make her look like an Angel tongue.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:10 PM)
for my case i cannot use flash because i m a underskirt candid/ ninja shooter and when i flash all people will mad at me  sweat.gif
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Then you can create your own lighting for your dam dam model when you shoot, so you can still use lower iso while increase the aperture.You can iPad, table lamps, etc to help you provide some lights tongue.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:21 PM)
oh oh you read my mind  laugh.gif

35mm f/1.8 is my DX prime lens oledi tongue.gif
flash not sure, not really like to bring huge flash walk around haha.... need borrow my friend's SB 700 to play first haha...
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QUOTE(junior5417 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:38 PM)
so i dont have to select any flash mode? eg(rear,slow)

what i need to do is make the foreground and background are correctly exposed then fire the flash? hmm.gif
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Er... I'm not sure Fill Flash can be categorized as a function?
Basically Fill Flash is like forcing flash to fire, even handphone can do it.
The difference is probably for Nikon DSLR, you have iTTL Balane Fill Flash which will adjust the flash power for the fill-in.

Please correct me if I mentioned anything wrong.

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 06:34 PM)
wah what happen with the image? how you do that?  shocking.gif

by the way i like this kind of effect  wub.gif
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Agito like this type, who can spank him tongue.gif
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post Apr 14 2011, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 14 2011, 10:19 AM)
ya...normally shoot food with 50mm you had to backward around 1 table distant ....with 35mm you just need sit in front of food and shoot  tongue.gif ...

here is the 35mm f/1.8 i shoot...very noob shot one la  sweat.gif
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=194...48571&aid=59551

here is the VERY GOOD EXAMPLE one of the sifu shoot with 35mm f/1.8 when i ask about quality/ opinion of 35mm f/1.8  thumbup.gif (he share this to me through PM  tongue.gif )
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dun be 'kiam siap', please share tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 14 2011, 11:32 AM)
"kiam siap" what? i did share what? rclxub.gif  hmm.gif
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I thought you mention he share his opinion/suggestion through PM? tongue.gif
just kiddin, but at same time, curious what he says
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 14 2011, 11:42 AM)

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Thanks! Its nice to read different opinion. It all depends on individual. It the end, it's how one utilize it and the result that matter (whether it can satisfiy the person).

Anyway, best part is, if there is a picture taken at same settings with different lens of samee focal range, how many people can actually differentiate it by looking at picture alone? More: if the picture has been PPed...

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QUOTE(Terbulance @ Apr 14 2011, 11:52 AM)
Since at this time people will be thinking of food, i thought it will be suitable to post pics of food.

Here's another one tongue.gif

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Oh, food~ Just nice, got one with me; share my noob shot:

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QUOTE(loverjinx @ Apr 14 2011, 12:14 PM)
please spoiler food pics ! getting very hungry already over here !  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Hinika @ Apr 14 2011, 12:44 PM)
that's only my personal opinion and experience so that i was just share v u through PM, haha..xD
sold it juz bcoz changing system and get extra allowance from my wife to upgrade..;P
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Thanks~ Well, I guess, everyone has their opinion, but it's nice to read different views from people actually. thumbup.gif

Changing System? To which System?
Care to share why change?
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QUOTE(loverjinx @ Apr 20 2011, 10:40 AM)
BKT means u take the same pic but all with different exposure, then go back to the PC to combine the pics to make it
into HDR tongue.gif
yeah the d5100 has the inbuilt HDR function but i dont know how that works.
whether u take min. of 3 shots and camera will auto process it for you or one raw format file is sufficient to do
the hdr function.
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BKT has limitation actually, you can only take still objects and all your shots need to be the same, so you most probably need a tripid and remote trigger or use timer.

Actually, I found another feature in D7000, its in the menu called multiple exposure or something, its like HDR function BUT not complete? Basically its like BKT, BUT you set the number of exposure, then take the shot, after the X number of exposure, the camera will combine all the X different exposure for you. The different with HDR function is, HDR function you only need to take 1 shot or 1 shutter click, you get HDR result. For this, its like BKT, if you set 3 different exposure, you need to take 3 shot first, after the 3rd shot, the pictures will be combine automatically. If after 30 seconds, no action taken (no shots taken), the feature will auto turn off.

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 20 2011, 02:43 PM)
oh i forget see histogram  sweat.gif
i just see the meter in viewfinder ...adjust it to exact middle then shoot ><
D70s LCD is 0, monitor is err... duno... office monitor got problem with black and white saturation so i not really can see  the 8 levels of white if you show the chart of whiteness. ><

anyway i just discover the flickr got Piknik edit feature  rclxm9.gif  maybe try edit from there again see...
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depending on situation or what kind of shot/effect you want take, histogram and metering may not be always correct, its meant to be used as a referenced.
Example: If the background is very bright, you subject/object is in front of the bright background: in this case, you have to adjust your EV for your 'preferred' metering to achive the result you want, either you want to expose the subjec/tobject properly or darken your object/subject or whatever effect you're looking for.

If you're on manual, you don't need to dial in EV as you're in manual mode, but dialing in EV can help your metering, but then you need to remember to reset back the metering else the next shot your metering will be not accurate.

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