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post Oct 14 2005, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Oct 14 2005, 05:54 PM)
Choostar, do u think I can catch some nice astropics with my new tiny Casio EX Z750? As u can see from my posts here, I've a long way to go.............my current goal is to capture a respectable shot of the moon with this digicam. Do u think it is possible? Or am I wasting my time?  cry.gif
Well, u expressed yourself very well there. Obviously you've been doing plenty of research on the latest telescope equipment......  drool.gif
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Hehe, I plan to invite you guys to observe using my telescope ( will be bought soon ) on the top of the Gunung Lambak at Kluang although it is just 500 metre high. sweat.gif

Anyone is interested in the plan of Astronomy.MY plan?

Don't feel sad with your camera, you can do it! Do you have a tripod? I am sure you have. Just put your camera on the tripod and use the same settings we used to take the Moon Lady. I am sure that you will success since you are my c-fu. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 14 2005, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Oct 14 2005, 05:58 PM)
Hehe, I plan to invite you guys to observe using my telescope ( will be bought soon ) on the top of the Gunung Lambak at Kluang although it is just 500 metre high. sweat.gif

deepyu, mountain climbing time!

QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Oct 14 2005, 05:58 PM)
Anyone is interested in the plan of Astronomy.MY plan?

You got my support. But i don't know how to run website lah. I only know how to kacau kacau.

QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Oct 14 2005, 05:58 PM)
Don't feel sad with your camera, you can do it!

ya, I CAN DO IT!....er i think.......

Excuse me, I got to run to join some friends at star party tonight in the middle of KL. If got clouds, we do something else lah... cool.gif
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post Oct 14 2005, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Oct 14 2005, 06:12 PM)
deepyu, mountain climbing time!
You got my support. But i don't know how to run website lah. I only know how to kacau kacau.
ya, I CAN DO IT!....er i think.......

Excuse me, I got to run to join some friends at star party tonight in the middle of KL. If got clouds, we do something else lah... cool.gif
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STAR PARTY? drool.gif Damn cool! I feel so sad as I am still sitting for my exams. sad.gif
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post Oct 15 2005, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Oct 14 2005, 06:15 PM)
STAR PARTY?  drool.gif  Damn cool! I feel so sad as I am still sitting for my exams.  sad.gif
Sabar sikit....you'll be hosting your own star party soon.......
Anyway, last night was not very good for star gazing. Only look at the Moon, very funny, everybody wait for 20-30 minutes, then the Moon break cloud cover so all rush to take quick look through the telescopes for 30 secs, then wait again.......... but got plenty of time to chit chat lah. laugh.gif
No chance to see Venus & Mars at all. The party was over at 10.30 pm. Driving back, I saw the Moon shining happily. This Moon lady very treacherous one.

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post Oct 15 2005, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Oct 14 2005, 05:54 PM)
Choostar, do u think I can catch some nice astropics with my new tiny Casio EX Z750? As u can see from my posts here, I've a long way to go.............my current goal is to capture a respectable shot of the moon with this digicam. Do u think it is possible? Or am I wasting my time?  cry.gif
Well, u expressed yourself very well there. Obviously you've been doing plenty of research on the latest telescope equipment......  drool.gif
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March05:

As for close-up shooting for moon, sun and planets, your camera will be good enough as long as it can be manually set, and mounted it onto a motorised telescope - with a 500mm or more focal length will do.

Please be careful when you trigger your shutter. Beaware of vibration and the adapter/cramp to mount your digital camera on to the telescope eyepiece. There are 2 types of adapter/cramp which is a universal adapter and DCL. Please visit Digital Adapter for more info. The other one is an eyepiece with specifically made thread to be screwed on to our camera lens (make sure there is a thread).

May I suggest you one more thing? Try to capture the moon before and after full moon as there are many more features moon surface to reveal, especially the terminator of day 3 - 7 lunar. It's fascinating!

Wish you success and good luck.



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post Oct 15 2005, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Oct 14 2005, 05:12 PM)
Altaz mount is capable of doing astrophotography as long as your CCD support Drizzle technology, such as Meade Deep Sky Imager Pro. Most of the GOTO telescopes can be mounted in equatorial mode and altaz mode and the quality of the coating of GOTO telescopes are very good and don't need to doubt about it. ( I meant Meade, Celestron and Orion Telescopes ). What I found the best telescope in budget that has short f/ is the LXD75. It just costs RM7900. In the other hand, the telescopes that offered by Meade which are capable of adding focal reducer are the money killers, RCX400 and LX200. They cost merely TEN THOUSANDS!

In this thread, we are discussing about high quality products, so far, this field is always expensive. sad.gif

What I will buy next to the telescope is the DSLR brows.gif, therefore, I can take galaxies down smile.gif but the amount of the money that I spend is too much, my father will be sucked into a zombie unsure.gif. Oops, I will buy myself a notebook too in order to run the CCD camera on the telescope. Maybe I won't get these include the CCD, just go for observing and wait until I am capable of buying a DSLR to take all the photos down. thumbup.gif

The atmosphere in Malaysia is quite bad. Therefore, Malaysia is not suitable for deep sky observing and long exposure photos of the celestial objects. I agree with you all that the 200-400mm F/2.8 is very good in taking the wide field.  So, is the mount of ETX105AT able to take out and put a DSLR on it?  huh.gif

I am an idiot, I thought the 'register' link on the APGM is to register as a APGM account.  doh.gif  It is to register Multiply account. I am planning on setup a Malaysia Astronomy Website, anyone interested to give me a hand?  smile.gif

p/s: This is my longest post since I joined LYN  laugh.gif
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You really did a quite well research on the so-called "good" telescope. I do not know how good you are in practical experience of handling telescope as well as the hand-on experiences but I appreciate your comments. Although I'm not fully agreed with you, guys here are lucky to see different ideas of utilizing an instrument. As I said, a good instrument is crucial but the observer/man will be the key factor to determine. Information, reviews or articles in website or magazine are kind of reference; some might be a commercial article. So, practical makes perfect.

Personal opinion, ETX mount even with wedge does not perform well in long exposure (even 10 min) for astrophoto. The original attached tripod is not so supportive.

And I look forward to meeting you guys, and your scope also. BTW, what's your scope? You are in Kluang..... hmm... a bit far away...when you are going to have the first light?!

Have a nice weekend.

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post Oct 15 2005, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Choostar @ Oct 15 2005, 10:57 AM)
March05:
As for close-up shooting for moon, sun and planets, your camera will be good enough as long as it can be manually set, and mounted it onto a motorised telescope - with a 500mm or more focal length will do.
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March05 wont be able to do close up of the moon. His DC got only 3x opt. zoom.
The longest shutter speed will be 60s' rite March? So maybe you can take normal/wide angle shot of the moon..

QUOTE(Choostar @ Oct 15 2005, 11:19 AM)
Personal opinion, ETX mount even with wedge does not perform well in long exposure (even 10 min) for astrophoto. The original attached tripod is not so supportive.
And I look forward to meeting you guys, and your scope also. BTW, what's your scope? You are in Kluang..... hmm... a bit far away...when you are going to have the first light?!
Have a nice weekend.
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I red somewhere also bout the meade's ETX series but the good thing is its
lightweight.For longer astrophoto will need a very good equatorial i think.
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Hehe, I plan to invite you guys to observe using my telescope ( will be bought soon ) on the top of the Gunung Lambak at Kluang although it is just 500 metre high. sweat.gif
warr..so u are ready to buy your telescope thumbup.gif
mountain climbing? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 15 2005, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(deepyu @ Oct 15 2005, 11:55 AM)
warr..so u are ready to buy your telescope thumbup.gif
mountain climbing? sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Nah, I haven't bought yet. I still have to get myself about RM1500 to buy the telescope...... sweat.gif The mountain is damn easy to climb, just like walking...... laugh.gif

I agree with you that the telescope user has to be good as well , choostar. The tripod that is bundled with ETX is very supportive now comparing to before and it depends on the weight of the telescope itself too ( ETX105AT is 6.3KG). I don't think I will use ETX105AT to do long exposure photos as I don't have the long exposure kit. If I want to do long exposure astrophotography, I will go for a 8" aperture telescope. smile.gif

I hope that you all can criticize me as much as you can to correct me smile.gif
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QUOTE(deepyu @ Oct 15 2005, 11:55 AM)
March05 wont be able to do close up of the moon. His DC got only 3x opt. zoom.
The longest shutter speed will be 60s' rite March? So maybe you can take normal/wide angle shot of the moon.....
Dat looks like the kind of moon shots i'm going to be limited to....
This is what i can get at max optical zoom 3x (35mm equivalent is 114mm)
user posted image

plus a bit of digital zoom:
user posted image
These pics are cropped, no resizing.
Obviously i can forget about closeups of the Moon with my Cassie.

Choostar, not withstanding afocal photography (which is what i did for the Sun pic with a Solarscope - see post #189) and the common tricks in digital photoediting, are there any techniques favourable to compact digicams for astrophotography? Right now everyone is going great guns on DSLRS.......
It seems that Astrophotography is only for the rich or for the Astronomy expert!

QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Oct 15 2005, 02:00 PM)
I hope that you all can criticize me as much as you can to correct me...
Sure can ah? u won't shoot back? blink.gif
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post Oct 15 2005, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Oct 15 2005, 04:00 PM)
Dat looks like the kind of moon shots i'm going to be limited to....
This is what i can get at max optical zoom 3x (35mm equivalent is 114mm)
user posted image

plus a bit of digital zoom:
user posted image
These pics are cropped, no resizing.
Obviously i can forget about closeups of the Moon with my Cassie.

Choostar, not withstanding afocal photography (which is what i did for the Sun pic with a Solarscope - see post #189) and the common tricks in digital photoediting, are there any techniques favourable to compact digicams for astrophotography? Right now everyone is going great guns on DSLRS.......
It seems that Astrophotography is only for the rich or for the Astronomy expert!
Sure can ah? u won't shoot back?  blink.gif
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I will use M16 to shoot back biggrin.gif . When you put your camera on the tripod and starting to take the shot. STOP! Check your setting, use timer mode, iso50, and see around the environment. There you go! biggrin.gif Be careful! Don't use digital zoom, the quality of image is bad if it is being used. shakehead.gif

This post has been edited by Mr.LKM: Oct 15 2005, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Oct 15 2005, 05:39 PM)
I will use M16 to shoot back  biggrin.gif . When you put your camera on the tripod and starting to take the shot. STOP! Check your setting, use timer mode, iso50, and see around the environment. There you go!  biggrin.gif  Be careful! Don't use digital zoom, the quality of image is bad if it is being used. shakehead.gif
Aiyoyo, kena M16 eagle strike, i finish wor.
Okay, Mr.LKM, no more digital zoom (bad boy, March05, bad boy), get very bad image. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(March05 @ Oct 15 2005, 05:57 PM)
Aiyoyo,  kena M16 eagle strike, i finish wor.
Okay, Mr.LKM, no more digital zoom (bad boy, March05, bad boy), get very bad image.  notworthy.gif
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bad boy or play boy? laugh.gif Are you going to shoot the Moon tonight?
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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Oct 15 2005, 08:09 PM)
bad boy or play boy?
u spy on me again ah?

Tonite no Moon lady, rain rain so much. I'll catch up on my sleep instead......dream about 16" telescope. drool.gif
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QUOTE(March05 @ Oct 15 2005, 09:31 PM)
u spy on me again ah?

Tonite no Moon lady, rain rain so much. I'll catch up on my sleep instead......dream about 16" telescope.  drool.gif
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Before you dream about 16" telescope, do you have enough place to put this giant? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(March05 @ Oct 15 2005, 04:00 PM)
Dat looks like the kind of moon shots i'm going to be limited to....
This is what i can get at max optical zoom 3x (35mm equivalent is 114mm)
user posted image

plus a bit of digital zoom:
user posted image
These pics are cropped, no resizing.
Obviously i can forget about closeups of the Moon with my Cassie.

Choostar, not withstanding afocal photography (which is what i did for the Sun pic with a Solarscope - see post #189) and the common tricks in digital photoediting, are there any techniques favourable to compact digicams for astrophotography? Right now everyone is going great guns on DSLRS.......
It seems that Astrophotography is only for the rich or for the Astronomy expert!
Sure can ah? u won't shoot back?  blink.gif
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M16 in fact is not harmful at all -- M16 is a Messier Object with a popular name of Eagle Nebula! So no worry.. hah!

March05, where shall I access to see your Solar pict? with what kind of solarscope? able to see the sunspot or the prominences & solar flares?

As for Moon or Sun photo, 3x or 4x is more than enough; 60 sec?? too long. You'll get the moon or sun overexposed. Many lunar photos in the APGM were taken by Nikon CP4500 (just 4x optical zoom). The telescope's focal length is 480mm. The photographer applied a DCL28 (an eyepiece at 24mm f/length with 28mm thread) with CP4500 for afocal shooting.

Photography is somehow not a "classic" hobby... so it's invalueable .... you are up to a standard to develop this particular interest. Dont forget, the instrument we apply is to encounter the nature phenomena, (but atmospheric turbulence is our enemy) so certain investment is needed.

Good day, gusy.
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QUOTE(Choostar @ Oct 15 2005, 11:47 PM)
M16 in fact is not harmful at all -- M16 is a Messier Object with a popular name of Eagle Nebula! So no worry.. hah!

ya, the M16 will blast u into a nebula...very dangerous. Stay away from Mr.LKM, our next 007.

QUOTE(Choostar @ Oct 15 2005, 11:47 PM)
March05, where shall I access to see your Solar pict?......

See page 10 of this thread, post #189

QUOTE(Choostar @ Oct 15 2005, 11:47 PM)
The photographer applied a DCL28.........

I obviously can't fit the DCL28 on my Cassie, no thread on the lens. But while i have been exploring afocal photography (mainly for terrestrial objects), my main interest is really to see how far i can go wih a compact digicam without using any adapters - just the integrated lens.




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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Oct 15 2005, 09:50 PM)
Before you dream about 16" telescope, do you have enough place to put this giant?  sweat.gif
I also got a palace in my dreams, can put this giant on one of the towers. U all can stay with me anytime, got 100 rooms for guests............hope i don't get a nightmare, instead turn into a haunted castle laugh.gif

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QUOTE(March05 @ Oct 16 2005, 10:20 AM)
I also got a palace in my dreams, can put this giant on one of the towers. U all can stay with me anytime, got 100 rooms for guests............hope i don't get a nightmare, instead turn into a haunted castle  laugh.gif
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lol....... When will your dream come to an end? huh.gif You have so many dreams...... shakehead.gif

The M16 I said is not the nebula doh.gif but the gun sweat.gif
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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 27 2005, 05:46 PM)
Today's Sun.

Solar Activity on 27th September 2005

Taken with the Casio, believe it or not.

That prominence has been raging for many days. There's a bad long tear in the surface of the Sun, too. You can easily fit more than 10 Earths in that gap. Sunspot 810 shows up clearly too.
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This is the post of March05's sun.
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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Oct 16 2005, 06:19 PM)
.....You have so many dreams......  shakehead.gif

u know the song......"to dream, the impossible dream".......


QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Oct 16 2005, 06:19 PM)
The M16 I said is not the nebula  doh.gif  but the gun  sweat.gif
ohmy.gif remind me not to annoy u.



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