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deepyu
post Sep 7 2005, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 7 2005, 03:44 PM)
Deepyu, why don't you put a link to you gallery in your signature? It looks hard to find it smile.gif
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As u wish Mr.LKM notworthy.gif notworthy.gif biggrin.gif
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post Sep 7 2005, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 7 2005, 05:00 PM)
Don't worry about that. I'll be your manager/agent.
You be famous, i be rich...hah,hah. Then I can buy you that telescope!  drool.gif and another one for me, of course.
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me also drool.gif drool.gif dont forget me arr.. drool.gif drool.gif
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post Sep 8 2005, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 7 2005, 07:17 PM)
Counting on you, man.
Disaster here in KL - the sky's totally overcast, and it's drizzling. We need a miracle....
deepyu, are u in KL too?
Mr.LKM, how's it looking over in Kluang?
I fear, deepyu, our telescope dreams are evaporating fast........
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yea2..me also kl..yesterday no chance at all lar.. cry.gif
..telescope.. cry.gif cry.gif

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post Sep 12 2005, 10:15 AM

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cry.gif cry.gif Nice shot there wKkaY cry.gif cry.gif
very busy last 3days was hoping u guys can shoot
nice pic like tis.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Sep 14 2005, 11:37 AM

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hey guys have a read here..very interesting... thumbup.gif
http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/astro/index-e.html
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post Sep 14 2005, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 14 2005, 12:05 PM)
How much it cost in Malaysia? I think more than GOTO telescope...... cry.gif
Not rich enough.......
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haha..but instead of buying telescope..we can also do astrophotography with
SLR..using 100-300mm lens can give u a nice nebulae or star clusters.
so if u do have slr with telephoto lens can shoot lar. wat u need is buy
the equatorial equipment tat can follow the stars movement..
and later when have budget ca buy telescope lar.. drool.gif
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post Sep 14 2005, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 14 2005, 05:01 PM)
Sorry, guys...... I lupa to bring the photos to upload here doh.gif I swear that I will upload them tomorrow smile.gif Anyone wants the price list of the Meade telescopes that are available in Malaysia? Lowyat.net doesn't support .xls file, therefore I cannot upload it here sad.gif
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aiyoo..me waiting like crazy... drool.gif drool.gif biggrin.gif
Mr.LKM wat r u waiting for?? buy lar Meade.. drool.gif
Somebody must buy it to keep tis astrophotography forum alive.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
I cant see anyone else but u.. sweat.gif
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post Sep 14 2005, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Sep 14 2005, 05:13 PM)
(1) Where do you guys shoot around KL/PJ? You go somewhere up hill?

(2) Are you willing to take a picture with exposure of 4~5 hours and most probably will be biten by flies? I hope can shoot together, because 4~5 hours for star trails is a long time... at least can talk...
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(1)dont think kl/pj will allows any astrophoto. biggrin.gif maybe a day in a month for clear sky.

(2)normally 2-3hrs can get nice star trails olredi. and pray for no interruption. biggrin.gif
must use fresh battery unless u found out ur slr died after 1 hour biggrin.gif


QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Sep 14 2005, 05:17 PM)
I saw the equatorial tripod-like stuff... very bulky and does not look anything cheaper than RM2k to my eyes.

One question, if our camera can manage to do ISO6400 or even higher with acceptable noise performance, then we need no those tracker, right? If that so, maybe dSLR in few more years already can do that.... And the tracker will be a thing of the past?
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can get the equatorial thing at around 1k. we need those tracker to
get nice still star/cluster/galaxies pics. u will only get a startrail without
it because the earth is moving and we need to move the camera and pointing
at the target even the earth is moving. those equatorial will help moving
ur camera as the earth moves.

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post Sep 14 2005, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 14 2005, 05:45 PM)
Some astro photos need even one hour to expose as they are too faint. If you able to shoot using iso6400, I think most of the ppl will use it to discover more. It needs one hour though so I think the tracker is still needed.

Most of the astrophotographer will use cold-ccd camera to take astrophotography therefore normal DSLR will get damn high noise if it is used to take long exposure photos and at high iso rate.
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yea2 maybe using ISO100 will give good result in avoiding noise.
high ISO will collect all the interference in atmosphere.
tat y Hubble space telescope is the best.

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post Sep 14 2005, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 14 2005, 06:02 PM)
Deepyu, buy the hubble telescope for us to take photos and let the NASA build another one for them.  laugh.gif
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haha..HST is dreamt in 1940s..designed and built in 1970-80..and only
start its operation in 1990!! HST is teamwork of NASA&ESA..
here for more http://www.stsci.edu/hst/
even bill gates cant afford it lar i think... sweat.gif sweat.gif biggrin.gif
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post Sep 15 2005, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 14 2005, 11:30 PM)
Wait a few more years and u can get it for free. NASA's abandoning it. U'll have to come up with a maintenance plan.......ha ha.
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abandoning it? means crashing it deep to atlantic?? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
even if its up there we'll need few hundred millions to rental NASA's
spacecraft.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Sep 15 2005, 01:03 AM)
Heh man... I think 15 seconds is a great limitation. Minimum must able to use bulb, right? If you are serious, really need to upgrade camera le... at least got excusses to upgrade, right? I believe there are few good used camera around.
Ok... so KL/PJ will be a real problem... Hope you guys can recommend... Since I am new still to digital, I still yet to know all its extreme technical limitation like battery.. I still remember I can do around 5~6 hours with my EOS A2 with new 2CR5. If worst come to worst, I might even consider DIY with powerful external acid-lead battery pack. I believe as long as the voltage is matched, should be ok.
I always believe there are few type of photography are always pushing the equipments to its limit; be it sports (outdoor and indoor) as well as astrophotography. Every ISO as well as size aperture do count...

However it is a surprise to hear that a fine tele might not perform as good as telescope. You have your point that telescope is optimise for far distance. But most probablt I will still start with normal tele, and maybe some longer tele primes. Reasons are pretty simple; one lens multi-purpose ma...

Just one little question to my curiosity; Did you ever seen anyone shooting astrophotograph with a laptop connecting to the devices (be it normal dSLR or etc)?
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having slr is a must for astrophoto..or atleast ccdcam..
me also dont have any dslr..shot some startrail using my film slr few yrs before..
if seriously want to do astrophoto have to go somewhere like Mr.LKM's place..
clear sky there.. biggrin.gif Or climb any mountain..
But a fine tele can perform nice astrophoto for beginner..but for more deep sky
photo u'll need the telescope..

shooting with laptop?? never seen any with my eyes but
its true. telescope with computer guided system like meade's telescope is normal
today. so u can control everything from ur laptop.
maybe someday we can shot astrophoto together.. thumbup.gif


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post Sep 15 2005, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Sep 15 2005, 01:03 PM)
Where does Mr. LKM stay? And how tired will it be to climb the mountain....?  sweat.gif  Imagine bringing some heavy camera gears, heavy tripod, laptop, cookies and other food...  tongue.gif  Dun laught laught le.. You need food and water for long hours shot, right?
I am still pretty new to digital in a sense that compare to what I know about film and my old camera, where almost every technical limitation was predictable. Ya... lots of films (money) were spent of testing and knowing the limits.
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Mr.LKM is at Kluang..so I think nice sky overthere..
yeap...u will need everything for a night or two camping. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Sep 15 2005, 01:03 PM)
By the way, I used to do some star trail before... but that was with film... and somehow under-exposed even for 5 hours shot!  cry.gif  I found film light response is really low for low light.
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5hours and still underexposed?? ohmy.gif i wonder wat setting and equipment u used.
I tried for about 2 hours..with ISO100 slide film and it turn up to be ok..not underexposed. maybe little bit overexposed.. biggrin.gif


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post Sep 15 2005, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(wasabi @ Sep 15 2005, 02:56 PM)
how about this
climb up like 15 min... i guess tongue.gif
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yelorr wasabi..actually where arr the exact location u shot tat pic..
really good view..and is it away from lights intereference/hazy sky??
me also want to try lar..15min so i guess its not too hard to climb..

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post Sep 15 2005, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(wasabi @ Sep 15 2005, 03:50 PM)
great idea, it would be first(?) camping from lowyat-kakis ...

prevent from light pollution?  use hood? tongue.gif . I nv try before, if can't then KL skyline nitescene ... biggrin.gif

deepyu -> Tmn melawati. lights? true also, but i scare of darkness.hey dare u go to some Mt. away from light sweat.gif  .... tongue.gif

15min for daytime..
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hood can prevent light from entering the lens..but cant solve the
sky's light pollution problem. we have to go somewhere with clear view..
far from city to get nice astrophoto..place like u mentioned maybe can also.
easy to go. biggrin.gif

dont climb in darkness lar..climb in daylight..camp and wait for the nite..
and of course not alone lar biggrin.gif me also afraid of darkness.. sweat.gif
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post Sep 16 2005, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 16 2005, 06:00 PM)
Walky-Talky START:"Ahh!! Who touched my ass?" Just kidding biggrin.gif
deepyu, have you contacted the local dealer of Meade telescope? If you want to buy something from him, you have to act fast as he is going to Chile ( the best place for celestial observing in this planet! )and he will be leaving in September 18 and back in October 15.
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maybe i'll contact him... unsure.gif on oct..next year/s oct.. whistling.gif
btw the 3 stars maybe not a star..maybe a satellite..who knows unless we check
it. biggrin.gif
ur gas cloud not colourful enough lar biggrin.gif
thanks for sharing arr.. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 16 2005, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 16 2005, 06:29 PM)
If the background of that "gas cloud" is black, it will be wonderful... Got way to check whether they are satelites?
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i think u can check it if u have the meade's autostar. or other
astronomy navigation software. if i'm not mistaken
they also includes some satelite's infos..maybe except the
confidential one.. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 21 2005, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 21 2005, 01:42 PM)
Hey guys, just saw this

Not quite full moon, but who cares. Makes my day.  thumbup.gif
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yeap..saw it there also..good shot. thumbup.gif
but march if u want to shoot tis kind of moon pics dont think
u can do it with EX S500 or Caplio GX8. Tis guy using Nikon 8700
with 8x zooming capability.and I think he is using the max zoom to get
this shot. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 21 2005, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 21 2005, 04:32 PM)
What did u mean by CLICK! ?

March05,
Hey man, your choices are not suitable for the types of photography you want sad.gif Able to get urself a dslr? 

I am wondering how was the guy able to shoot with so many details. Every of mine shots were all overexposed, wonder if photoshop able to solve overexposed problem...  cry.gif and even my KM Z3 with 12X optical zoom can't be this far...

See? My moon...
user posted image
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Mr.LKM u shot ur pic using auto mode rite? u need to shoot with high shutter speed
to get like tat guy's pic. and doing some digital zooming.
try to shoot with ur KM Z3 with max shutter.1/1000 i think.
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post Sep 21 2005, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 21 2005, 05:21 PM)
I used manual mode, maybe my shutter speed is too low.
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than maybe u're rite.actually as u can see ur shot is overexposed..
means too much light entering ur lens. faster speed means shorter time
to gain light. so u can shot the moon surface, not the moon's light.
and do focus on the moon. not the sky.
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post Sep 21 2005, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 21 2005, 04:32 PM)

I am wondering how was the guy able to shoot with so many details. Every of mine shots were all overexposed, wonder if photoshop able to solve overexposed problem...  cry.gif and even my KM Z3 with 12X optical zoom can't be this far...
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Mr.LKM see here
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=196633&st=20
FoxtrotZulu's nice moon pics with details. And maybe the easiest way is
to shoot when the moon is not too bright.evening and morning would be best i think. biggrin.gif


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