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poolcarpet
post Mar 8 2013, 12:04 PM

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You included the 'tax savings' as part of your ROI calculation? drool.gif

QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 8 2013, 11:50 AM)
For me it is a ROI of 30.25% for Y2012.

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poolcarpet
post Mar 8 2013, 12:06 PM

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Any idea how much was the dividend for 2012? I did rough calculation it's around 4.2x% ?

Update: Nevermind, just saw it at SSPN website 4.25%... was hoping for it to be closer to EPF.... vmad.gif

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post Mar 8 2013, 01:14 PM

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Ok, I was just thinking about this... most will put in RM3k into SSPN in order to take advantage of the tax relief, and gain up to RM780 in 'instant' returns, correct?

I just quickly created an excel with simple calculation,

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and let's assume we only look at 1 year investment return (because year 2-year n is just a repeat of this year 1 investment),
RM3k put in SSPN and RM3k-RM780=RM2220 put in another investment.

Over 17 years, if I can get consistently 2% higher return rate than SSPN dividend, I actually end up with MORE money at the end!

Is my calculation correct or am I missing something here? Anyone understand what I'm trying to say here?
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post Mar 9 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 9 2013, 12:26 PM)
First I use Excel to do the calculation.

I pull it for 17 years.

Under column 1: I put in a figure of RM 4,400.00 i.e., RM 6,000.00 less 26%. This means your actual capital is RM 6000.00 - less 26% =  RM 4,400.00

Under column 2: I put in a figure of RM 6,000.00 because this is the actual amount put into SSPN every year for the next 17 years consistently.

Under column 3: I key in the formula =Column 2 x 1.04 because I assume SSPN will give a dividend of 4% consistently throughout the whole 17 year tenure.

I repeat the process until I get 17 rows i.e., 17 payment periods. 

What I get essentially is:

i) PV = 0 since I start accumulating from zero value

ii) FV = RM 147,872.48 i.e., the total accumulated future value inc dividend reinvested.

iii) N = 17 i.e., 17 years tenure.

iv) PMT = RM 4,440.00 i.e. the actual capital outlay per period of time

v) Mode = End, since the dividend is paid at the end of the period.

From all the 5 parameters above I am able to calculate I, i.e. the Internal Rate of return for this series of investment using a financial calculator.

And from my calculator, the IRR (I) = 7.85% p.a.

Taking into a/c the tax savings, this SSPN saving vehicle is able to give a return of 7.85%p.a.

Can you compare SSPN rtn with an equity unit trust rtn in a direct way? The answer is no.

Because another component we have to take into a/c is Risk adjusted return.

For SSPN, I'll say its volatility or standard deviation from mean (the measurable parameter for riskiness) is very similar to money market fund i.e., around 0.1%

For an efficient unit trust, the usual standard deviation from mean is around 8% and a typical long term rtn is around 10% p.a.

So, let's compare the risk adjusted return of SSPN vs a efficient equity unit trust.

SSPN = (7.85 - risk free rate)/standard deviation = (7.85 - 3.1)/0.1 = 47.5 where the risk free rate I take is the current retail 12Mth FD rate

Unit Trust = (10 - 3.1)/8 = 0.8625

So if that is the case, does that mean we should dump everything into SSPN?

The answer is no, because SSPN tax benefit stops at RM 6,000.00 p.a. So it is not enough to accumulate for a child education.

However, SSPN plays a volatility reducing role in your overall portfolio for your child education.

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poolcarpet
post Mar 10 2013, 06:58 PM

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It is RM6k for year of assessment 2012-2017

http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...3&unit=1&sequ=1
http://www.ptptn.gov.my/web/guest/simpanan/istimewa



QUOTE(popice2u @ Mar 10 2013, 06:34 PM)
anyone can confirm...3k or 6k rclxub.gif
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poolcarpet
post Mar 10 2013, 07:39 PM

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you do mean 2012 tax relief right? not 2011.... ?

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 10 2013, 07:29 PM)
$6K for SSPN 2011 tax relief (i just filed online).
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post Mar 10 2013, 09:24 PM

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sweat.gif i thought i missed out on 2011 tongue.gif

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 10 2013, 09:12 PM)
whoops heheh - siaran tergendala, now is 2013, not 2012.
Yup, starts 2012 $6K tax relief  notworthy.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 09:29 AM

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same, it was there few days ago, now missing. maybe they are doing something on the system, just check again later or tomorrow. (and print out and keep!)

and last week or so, couldn't login but heard some registered new account/password then ok, but i didn't and just tried again and it's ok, don't know what kind of system they are running? blink.gif

btw, no one won the sspn simpanan bonanza? RM100k.... brows.gif

http://www.ptptn.gov.my/docs/Senarai%20Pem...nanza-siri1.pdf
http://www.ptptn.gov.my/docs/Keputusan%20p...iri%20Kedua.pdf

QUOTE(numbertwo @ Mar 12 2013, 09:05 AM)
same here, I'm unable to see any dividend payout today...
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post Mar 12 2013, 10:24 AM

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maybe want to give us more! icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 12 2013, 10:22 AM)
Their IT & IS people OR their accounting ppl shd be shot for such "reporting". Show then remove doh.gif
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poolcarpet
post Mar 19 2013, 03:47 PM

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SSPN-i statement is available again! Quick check/print and keep a copy smile.gif
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post Mar 19 2013, 04:04 PM

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Click on lihat terperinci, then select year 2012..... 2013 will not show dividend...

 

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