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Discussion about watercooling and the results, Version 2
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Jun 9 2006, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Jun 9 2006, 12:48 PM) one noob question, distilled water can last how long using in wc system, i mean how long need to change??? it perform better thn coolant?? but how could i spot the leak if using distilled water... i dun think it performs better than coolant dude. coolants have some chemicals in them... [correct me if im wrong]
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Jun 9 2006, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Jun 9 2006, 01:00 PM) Distilled water is still the best. Coolant additives actually reduce performance. Same goes to premixed coolant solutions like PC ice etc etc. Coolant additives are not really necessary unless you have mixed metals in your loop (aluminium + copper), or you are running into algae growth issues. hhmm to what i understand coolant additives are no so good. so may i ask why are people still buying coolants? isnt distilled water way cheaper?
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Dec 16 2006, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 16 2006, 10:58 AM) my company is selling Water Distiller. you make your own distill water. hahaha... or you can purchase from medical supplier (ME!) hehe.. it is not cheap. if just for your computer usage, just get those branded mineral water.. it is as good as distill water. in medical field, they always do that too. just my 2 cents hey, someone was telling me to use the car battery water. dunno how good that is with a wc setup
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Dec 17 2006, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 16 2006, 12:03 PM) not too sure about that.. i still think mineral water or ppl called RO water (Reverse Osmosis) is the best. anyway, if u guys can look for me in puchong, i can 'make' distilled water for u guys. i got the machine in office  but tell me earlier because need 3 hours to make 4 litres. RO water is still not free from impurities, so it might not be good for our pumps
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Dec 17 2006, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 17 2006, 03:12 PM) very true on that.. but the cheapest and easiest to obtain, rather than distilled water.. need machine and time consuming. go to a school lab, use a liebig condensor. there u go, distilled water. but very susah one...
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Dec 17 2006, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 17 2006, 03:54 PM) how many ppl here still have the access to school lab? hahaha... not only susah, but not practical. hehe.. the easiest is to get a water distiller. costs less than a thousand. can make water for your family to drink also.. it is the cleanest water to drink. clean. but science 101  u need minerals that are present in water to keep ur body going. distilled water is not good to drink due to the fact it has no minerals hehe apparently some1 used the shell battery water in their WC system. seems to work well haha
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Dec 20 2006, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(inteluser @ Dec 20 2006, 10:01 AM) can u b more specific ?? noob here.. i don't get wut u mean thank you \ and u know, if it a leak, then u are in trouble. it will kill ur pump too if u dont monitor the fluid level in the reservoir.
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Dec 23 2006, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(mjoe @ Dec 23 2006, 03:03 AM) Not all aquarium pump can be WC pump... nirox is the most popular coz it hv better spec for Hmax an Qmax value. u also need to change inlet and outlet barbs to match ur tubing ID size. 1/2" ID is the most popular in WC setup coz it hv more choice in upgrading part. Downside by using aquarium pump as WC pump is about reliability, most aquarium pump was designed to run in submerged, so if u use it at open air or ambient temp, the operating temp will increase and this will reduce pump life time. small pumps do not really produce much heat, atleast not enough to take out the pump itself. i saw ianho using a eheim pump, now that sounds interesting as they produce huge pumps for large aquriums  btw, dude, if u want the pump urgently, then u will have to order from uglyvamp. but even the it will take time to reach ur hands, so probally u gotta use ur nirox till it really gives out steam.
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Jan 11 2007, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(point blanc @ Jan 8 2007, 11:10 PM) QUOTE(point blanc @ Jan 8 2007, 11:12 PM) thanks for that point, to be frank, i was only thinking about the best cooling and didn't take into account of maintenance... owe you one on this one... hehehe. thank a million man. QUOTE(point blanc @ Jan 8 2007, 11:13 PM) swiftech? i never seen swiftech in malaysia before... is there any shops in KL / malaysia selling swiftech??? next time, please use the multi quite function. and if u have got the answer to your question, please do close the thread  thx
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Jan 13 2007, 11:12 PM
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hey thread starter, where are you? if u dont reply then ill take is as u have found ur answer
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Feb 21 2007, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Feb 21 2007, 01:44 AM) what's wrong of having dual pass then ? the slower movement of the water within the rad would results of what ?? it will just be slower, and there might be a significant diff in temps. looks like the temperature of the liquid that comes out of the rad will be colder compared to the one from the single pass
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Apr 16 2007, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Apr 16 2007, 07:24 PM) y go for GTX bro? everyone in xtremesystems saying that MCR-320 / 220 -QP is the next best thing after thermochill. for the price of GTX's, better buy Thermochill lah. may i remind u that thermochill rads are somewhat rare in the market. its easier to get the GTX compared to the thermochill. the GTX is also cheaper
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Apr 23 2007, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Apr 23 2007, 02:43 AM) with rm800-1000 budget, u can build up a water cooling system (DIY) with an D-Tek Fuzion or Apogee GTX block, get 2 swiftech MCW-60 for VGA with 8800 Kit, recommend 3x120mm Radiator, Swiftech MCR-320QP recommended for budget setup, Thermochill 3x120mm radiator if got the budget, for reservoir get the EK's or Swiftech Micro Reservoir, and for the pump, u can get MCP355 with Petras Top or Swiftech MCP655(D5) will supply sufficient head pressure and flowrate, 7/16 ID or 1/2 ID tubings recommended for ur setup... dont get those thermaltake and gigabyte since u got the budget, get a decent DIY kit... u might need to mod ur stacker 830 for the setup. Those Water Cooling DIYs stuffs are difficult to get in malaysia, u can only get it frm those US Bulk or frm Uglyvamp. woah, im not sure u can actually squeeze all that into a 1k budget, doesnt really possible.
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Aug 13 2007, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 13 2007, 05:42 PM) Why? Any logical reasons?  vinegar eats copper. end of story
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Aug 13 2007, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(irangan @ Aug 13 2007, 05:50 PM) bottom line is vinegar will destroy copper ion if u put in it too long. U will notice your copper change to blueish color. yeah back to chemistry 101. thats why its recommended not to put vinegar in the rad for more than an hour
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