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 Cheese, is it unfair?

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hazairi
post Mar 28 2011, 01:08 PM

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u wont improve much if u like to cheese
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post Mar 28 2011, 05:22 PM

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yeah...if keep cheesing, u won't learn much...
u have to have a variety of strategies in order to be higher level...

if opponent already know u always cheese n are preparing for it, u are out before u even saw his base laugh.gif

in the end, it's not wrong to cheese biggrin.gif
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post Mar 28 2011, 07:33 PM

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ya eat 2much cheezel will fat~ no good for health~
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post Apr 5 2011, 10:59 PM

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This is sparta.

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post Apr 9 2011, 02:23 PM

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watch this youtube channel, there are almost 20 videos of when cheese fails

http://www.youtube.com/user/LifesAGlitchTV

anyway, i cheesed my way from gold to the diamond league in 1 week, it was when starcraft 2 was 1st release

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post May 13 2011, 11:22 AM

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you still can learn from cheese, if you can keep on inventing new favor of cheese.

noob can win pro, this is the most fascinating part of starcraft 2
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post May 13 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(chunyuen @ May 13 2011, 11:22 AM)
you still can learn from cheese, if you can keep on inventing new favor of cheese.

noob can win pro, this is the most fascinating part of starcraft 2
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thats the most awful part of starcraft 2. to me its a flaw.


in sc2, if you play 1000 games against Idra, you probably can win 1 by proxy gateway him without getting scouted.

In chess, the btr player almost nvr lose because his overall strategy is more matured and advanced.

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post May 13 2011, 07:52 PM

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huhuhu, i am zerg player and terrans LOVE to cheese me, bunker rush , marine rush ETC.... usually they lose coz i am pretty good against cheeses. tongue.gif

just do scouting to prevent it

is it fair? yes its fair, its a STRATEGY GAME
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post May 16 2011, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(SneakyLeaky @ May 13 2011, 07:52 PM)
huhuhu, i am zerg player and terrans LOVE to cheese me, bunker rush , marine rush ETC.... usually they lose coz i am pretty good against cheeses. tongue.gif

just do scouting to prevent it

is it fair? yes its fair, its a STRATEGY GAME
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no la Terran will say bunker rush or marine rush is not cheese . it is early strategy rush lol tongue.gif
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post May 19 2011, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(debiru-man13 @ Mar 26 2011, 03:58 PM)
I'm a zerg player and on close-spawn situations, I will definitely cheese. especially to terrans. brows.gif 
I see on forums like gamefaqs, etc and I see a lot of complains of cheese, saying it's dirty, unfair, cheap, not sportsman-like.
But to me, I think it's just another strategy. Like, there's always a lot of things you can do to counter, like scout or counter-cheese or something, right?

What do you guys think?

I have my sc2 buddy who plays terran and he's really pissed off about the baneling bust (Which I always do to terrans), and to me, there's a lot things he can do to counter it, like putting bunkers or factory/rax behind the wall-in supply depots.
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Before reapers and barrack got nerfed, zerg noobs won't have said that.

Zerg noobs would complain how cheesy terran is. Then blizzard decided to help up the zerg noobs. lol.

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post May 19 2011, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(kayzie @ May 19 2011, 11:55 AM)
Before reapers and barrack got nerfed, zerg noobs won't have said that.

Zerg noobs would complain how cheesy terran is.  Then blizzard decided to help up the zerg noobs. lol.
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Haha, I guess so. Early nitro packs and mass reapers, damn scary stuff. mellow.gif
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post May 19 2011, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(debiru-man13 @ May 19 2011, 12:33 PM)
Haha, I guess so. Early nitro packs and mass reapers, damn scary stuff.  mellow.gif
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early 6 pool. scary stuff. now terran cannot do scary stuff liao.
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post May 24 2011, 11:09 AM

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ima toss player but just one day decided to go terran play play for the lulz. early expand, made at least 14 reapers + nitro. blasted their base, slowed one zerg down with every building gone. got called cheesin' for that. team mate went fffuuu- and asked me to make REAL army.

okay, i mass ravens. team mates once again went fffuuu- and called me noob. i go harass exp with auto turrets, suddenly group of voids come out (OMG) i panicked and i spam seeker missile. suddenly all leave game. i win. biggrin.gif

after game, enemy player messaged me and called me a ***** for cheesin'. reaper cheesin' ok. but mass raven also called cheese meh... =_=
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post May 24 2011, 11:13 AM

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I do proxy gateway zealot rush for my placement match in 2v2, and got into diamond rofl!
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post May 24 2011, 11:43 AM

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in my placement 4v4,all my teammates go 6pool. so,at 3min mark got 18 lings at their front.the enemy never recovered after that cheese.& i got myself to plat biggrin.gif
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post May 24 2011, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(keretapir @ May 24 2011, 11:43 AM)
in my placement 4v4,all my teammates go 6pool. so,at 3min mark got 18 lings at their front.the enemy never recovered after that cheese.& i got myself to plat biggrin.gif
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this is the way man, i dont understand why people keep playing team games and never get promoted knowing this is the way to get them to a higher league
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post May 24 2011, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(pepsi89 @ May 24 2011, 11:50 AM)
this is the way man, i dont understand why people keep playing team games and never get promoted knowing this is the way to get them to a higher league
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because they have self respects.

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post May 24 2011, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(izorue @ May 24 2011, 11:09 AM)
ima toss player but just one day decided to go terran play play for the lulz. early expand, made at least 14 reapers + nitro. blasted their base, slowed one zerg down with every building gone. got called cheesin' for that. team mate went fffuuu- and asked me to make REAL army.

okay, i mass ravens. team mates once again went fffuuu- and called me noob. i go harass exp with auto turrets, suddenly group of voids come out (OMG) i panicked and i spam seeker missile. suddenly all leave game. i win. biggrin.gif

after game, enemy player messaged me and called me a ***** for cheesin'. reaper cheesin' ok. but mass raven also called cheese meh... =_=
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The problem is not because of your build or your mass Reaper or mass Raven strategies.

The problem is because you play team games.

Expect dotards in team games.

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This post has been edited by westley0214: May 24 2011, 12:55 PM
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post May 24 2011, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(westley0214 @ May 24 2011, 12:53 PM)
The problem is not because of your build or your mass Reaper or mass Raven strategies.

The problem is because you play team games.

Expect dotards in team games.

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when you play team league, you have to follow what other people say... you cannot do your own thing. sad.gif
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post May 24 2011, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(westley0214 @ May 24 2011, 12:53 PM)
The problem is not because of your build or your mass Reaper or mass Raven strategies.

The problem is because you play team games.

Expect dotards in team games.

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QFT, team game sucks.

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