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blancpain4470
post Feb 18 2019, 04:11 PM

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Does any one know where to get in Malaysia:
1. Kraus kitchen sink
2. Glass curtains

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post Mar 14 2019, 07:22 PM

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I like the Kraus sink but seem to hard to find in KL. Got a deal in Amazon that I can consider but the shipping and handling is more than the cost of the sink! That said the sink price is very cheap. With all costs in do you think worth buying??

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post Mar 15 2019, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 15 2019, 12:10 PM)
What technology or special about kraus as similar design u can get it below RM 700 in malaysia example HCE brand with 1.2mm thickness, except they do not have the bottom rack accessory

i tried looking at their website, cant find any info about their brand except it is from USA. is it scratch proof or etc that make it so exp? interested to know as well smile.gif
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I think it is German brand but sold well in US. I am not sure but it can be manufactured in China as well. It's Sinks are made from extra-tough T304 stainless steel for exceptional resistance to corrosion and rust. It is constructed using dent-resistant TRU16 real 16 gauge with 1.5mm thick. The bottom of the sink is padded to improve sound proofing. So the sinks are very quiet and durable.

One of the better stainless steel sinks around.
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post Mar 16 2019, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 15 2019, 10:19 PM)
All sinks will have rubber padded at the bottom to reduce noise as well.

Done more research online, they claim to be using T304 stainless steel, it is actually the same as local term SUS304

"T304 (or type 304) and SUS304 are the same. T304 is the american term, SUS304 is the japanese JIS term" copied online

So basically if u can scout for brands that are 1.5mm with sus304, it will be similar to KRAUS. it is easy to get 1.2mm sinks as they are already very tough (our older sinks usually are 0.8 - 1mm and already can last us many years), recent trend is 1.2mm but i do know some brands with 1.5mm and some even 3mm. However, from what i know some brands that are giving 1.5 or 3mm at the edges only while the bowl is only 1mm or 0.9mm. Manufacturers welded the 1.5mm or 3mm edges to the 1mm bowl.
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Thanks for the info. Kraus thickness of 1.5mm is for the entire sink. What is the thickness is HCE chef series? I may drop by your shop to check it out. I assume you carry Teka too? Franke?

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post Mar 19 2019, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(10071985 @ Mar 19 2019, 05:14 PM)
ceramic vs stainless steel sink... any owners can comment the pros and cons of it?
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Ceramic or granite sink?

I own Blanco sinks in my current house. Advantages of granite sinks are:
1. Highly durable. Brand such as Blanco is made in Germany and is tough as nail. Mine have no scratches after 10 years of use
2. If you choose non white they are practically stain free. White color may stain a little after many years of usage unless you are super careful
3. They fit both traditional and modern homes
4. Maintenance free.
5. Many color choices to match any deco


Disadvantages
1. Don't drop any expensive glass or crystal on it. The chance of them surviving is practically zero
2. Most are generally more expensive although you can find many that are not made in China


As for stainless steel sinks, they match well with very modern minimalist homes. You can get one from 500 to 5000. Most are made in China especially those sold in Malaysia. You have to pay 3000+ for those Germany or US ones.
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post Apr 6 2019, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Apr 6 2019, 01:40 PM)
blanco have any sink with front exposed?
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What is "front exposed"?
Apron sink?

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post Apr 6 2019, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Apr 6 2019, 02:12 PM)
yeah, apron sink. with front exposed.
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Most manufacturers will have it. Kohler, Blanco, etc.
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post Apr 6 2019, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Apr 6 2019, 02:47 PM)
blanco malaysia website don't have le.
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Oh true. Some Blanco models are not imported here.

I use Blanco Metra 9 in my current house. But this is not apron sink. Malaysia has limited selections of sinks. One option is to buy from SG. For my new house I am likely to get Kraus stainless steel sink but also not available here. Will order from online

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post Apr 6 2019, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Apr 6 2019, 03:19 PM)
this kraus also apron sink? if so it should be more than 600mm depth?
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Nope. I like my sink undermount. The one I showed you is the undermount standard sink.

Most Kraus sink are 10in depth

Farm house apron sink is more expensive because more exposed materials. See photo below. This one EXCLUDING shipping is already 2500+

You also have to decide you want stainless steel or granite

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Apr 6 2019, 03:29 PM)
which website to get this? i mean kraus apron SS sink
previously ikea got sell. now discontinue already. cost abt RM930. just discontinue on february.
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For Kraus you can visit Kraus USA website since it is US company. I downloaded an app called UBUY. You can search by typing farmhouse sink.

I may order my sink from them. Let me know if you decide to order right away as I have not dealt with them before. A bit worried to order a few thousand of stuff from them as I need 2 Kraus big sinks for me new house

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post Nov 16 2019, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Nov 15 2019, 11:12 PM)
Where is the best place to buy blanco sink? I’m looking at metra or pleon 9.
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You can get Blanco at several places. Even Signature Kitchen carries them. I got mine recently for my new house at Top Idea (Jalan Ipoh) and they have branches elsewhere too. Their price during promotion like Homedec is good.

My current house has Blanco Metra 9 and Subline. We are so happy with Metra 9 that we bought the same for the new house.

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Nov 16 2019, 08:41 AM)
How much you bought your metra? Cheapest online price is around 1.9k. I wonder if i could bargain a little bit more if i go to physical shop. Managed to get 100-300 off from online price for my oven, hood & hob at physical shop after i showed them the cheapest online price.
Blanco is one of the famous brand for granite sink, and the gentleman above have few in his house.
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I think it is about 1.8 to 1.9k individually but I got it together with a fancy Grohe tap as bundled deal. In addition I got it in Homedec earlier this year and wifey kept all the receipts 🤣

I have white subline and grey (may be anthracite) metra 9. The white in dry kitchen and metra 9 in wet. There are some minor stain for the white and metra 9 is still looking like new. My advice is getting darker colored granite sink unless your decoration must have white one.

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Nov 16 2019, 09:59 AM)
Thank you for you advice. Luckily, i’m planning to get the anthracite color too since my quartz will be white. Planning to get the blanco linus S anthracite tap from amazon.de to pair with the sink, so i am buying sink only here.
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Lol. Coincidentally my new wet will be grey sink pair with white Silestone quartz 😊. On the other hand My stainless steel Kraus sink and Hansgrohe tap for new dry kitchen were imported from US. Yes you can get good deals from Amazon. Mine is a bit different and I paid a little more getting from U Buy 😊

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Nov 16 2019, 10:19 AM)
Yeah. The price is so cheap buying from overseas, now i am planning to buy grohe shower mixer from amazon.de too. Less close to 50% off best price you can get in Malaysia. What makes u choose ubuy over amazon btw?

Actually i am still deciding whether to use stainless steel sink + stainless steel hob or black grinite + black ceramic glass hob for my white quartz. The former option is cheaper, but the latter option looks nicer sweat.gif. Need to find some saving somewhere to afford me solid wood door kitchen cabinet.
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I wanted specific model. It just happened u buy got discount on that one. The trick is just search every sites and get best deal. I bought a lot of Amazon btw including frisbees, electronic stuff and 34 volumes Dictionary of Arts - perhaps the only set in Malaysia 🤣

You have white quartz. Your stainless steel option is not bad but definitely the black option is much better. If the difference is less than 5-10% I think you should go with the later.

Renovation is about minimize the compromise.

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Nov 16 2019, 10:56 AM)
The difference is more than 10% if you count by %, but around RM2k if by actual value (RM4k++ vs RM6k++). But thinking about it, kitchen cabinet is a long term investment, so i rather do it right from the beginning since i wouldn’t be changing it for maybe another 15years. I don’t think i should live for next 15years for something i don’t really like.

I think the best compromise i could do is to skip RM3.5k x 3 grohe shower mixer and replace with ikea RM800 x 3 shower mixer. And i can easily change them after 3-5 years since i will be installing external mixer instead of internal.

I am thinking the right way? I am new to this laugh.gif
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Yes. It is more mah fun to change counter top and sink than shower mixer. I don't think you need to go with expensive 3 shower mixers. You kids or in-laws can't tell a 800 vs 3500 mixer. Basic grohe is quite acceptable and the cartridges are similar for most of them. You may go expensive for master bathroom and the rest normal ones.

Think about those that you are using everyday and seeing everyday. Do those that will impress you ... not your friends or mother in law (may be).

Don’t go over board with any single item. Otherwise you will sure overbudget
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QUOTE(hahakat88 @ Mar 9 2020, 08:06 PM)
Hi guys is teka brand stainless steel sink any good?
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This is like asking is Kia cars any good. Teka produces many sinks. Some are better some are not so good. Cheaper ones made in China. Some made in Europe. Germany ones will cost more. General answer to general question is Teka is mid range. It is no Ferrari of sink or kitchen appliances
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QUOTE(hahakat88 @ Mar 10 2020, 06:43 PM)
Thanks.. looking at price range about 1k +/- 10% range.. there's one that fits my budget from Teka.. the rest from Blanco are like 2K ++ so... No choice.. lol
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In this case Teka is fine. But note that stainless steel requires more maintenance than granite sink like Blanco. It will scratch. It will have ugly water stain if you dont wipe down on the sink. Good thing is if you drop your glass it has chance of surviving. Granite sink no chance
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QUOTE(ape @ Mar 11 2020, 02:56 PM)
Hi, i think to try Blanco metra9 sink (dary grey) for my wet kitchen, just get your opinion whether the watermark on the sink is noticeable? I am using HCE granite sink currently and a lot of ugly watermark, easy to remove of course but troublesome for someone lazy like me... sweat.gif
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I have a grey metra 9 in my old house. New house is using anthracite (black see photo). The water mark on Blanco is much less noticeable than stainless sink. I am having a Kraus stainless sink in dry kitchen and have to wipe it down every time after use. It's a pain.

Metra9 I don't do that. Blanco recommends that u do but I find it is not required. The photo below I took after I washed my plate just now

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QUOTE(IMF2025 @ Mar 12 2020, 10:10 AM)
Is oil/grease easy to wash off ? Asian cooking very oily so was wondering if it’s hard to keep it clean ie oil free
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Blanco is fine with grease/oil. But then I also don’t have problem with stainless steel Kraus (although it is in dry kitchen and usually sees less oily pots and pans).

In any case you should try to pour your unwanted oil/grease away rather than into the sink. It will clog up your piping system. Normal grease or oil left on plates or little from pans are no problem for granite sink. Blanco builds like a tank ... even hot wok into the sink won’t trouble it
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QUOTE(hahakat88 @ May 11 2020, 06:12 PM)
Hi all, after searching through Livinox, Zenros (Germany), HCE (Germany),

Only Teka & Blanco have international website. Lol

Went to stores to see them personally, really attracted by Livinox Milan (really thick) and it feels good. No source of where it is from tho, although sales person mentioned imported
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Livinox, HCE are not German based. They just claimed to use German technology but either made here or China. HCE is from China.

Teka have manufacturing facilities globally. Some in China. Some in Thailand. Some in Europe. Only their high-ends are made in Germany. Typical of global organization. Blanco is almost entirely made in Germany.

Those made in China can be high quality too. Your iPhones are all made in China and nobody seems to complain. The only thing is image/perception as well as quality consistency. While u still may get shitty stuff from Germany and Japan it is not likely. Whereas anything is possible from China.

The bottom line regardless of country of origin, read the specs. Understand the technology used. Don't be duped by marketing jargons such as German technology. Understand what exactly is the technology.

For sink, what is the materials used, thickness, depth, damping materials, warranty etc are more important

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