Grandmaster league is on air already.

*from what i understand from the text* this is the last week of season 1, you can no longer promote or relegate till the new season. no more bonus pool, you will be given a medal at the end of season to put on your gallery.



changes:
mothership blackhole-ed units will have 1.5 sec of invulnerability after being released.
khaydarin emulate removed
removed zealot charge abuse
battlecruiser movement speed + about 30%
bunker build time from 35 to 40sec
ghost EMP - 100 shield - 100 mana
stimpack 170 sec research time
fungal growth 4 second instead of 8 second, total damage done same, damage per second doubled up, 30% extra damage to massive units.
when Mules, chronoboost and spawn larvae is ending, there will be an alarm to remind

yeahhhh....... (trying to troll)

The bonus pool has been deactivated only for this final week. After this week, the bonus pool will still come into play, i.e. you can still utilize all the points you've accumulated.

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Added on March 22, 2011, 12:34 pmBTW, Taldarim Altar has been added to the map pool and Shakuras makes an heroic comeback after public pressure on Blizzard (I guess?)

This post has been edited by westley0214: Mar 22 2011, 12:34 PM

My tank does not get upgrade

ps: i will scream for tank no matter what u say bcos tank is the reason why i play Terran

This post has been edited by jeffvip: Mar 22 2011, 01:01 PM

Now only can see win not lose for below grandmaster league ahaha

can see like 1000+ win people but still low division

QQ amulet removed, guess need to copy MC's style, mass sentries at the start and force field all the way FTW!!!

wa waaa....gotta learn to use infestor more often de >.<

so this week final week??
hmm...gotta take this chance to find back the touch

serious about the map pool change????

IMO shakuras tank marine push at backdoor is almost undefendable as a zerg lo -___- see how many 'not so good' terran come back in GSL on this map...including SlayersBoxer...

and for all 3 giant map in GSL, WWHY taldarim altar o.o IMO the worst out of the 3.....terminus should be the best, follow by Creasqrescxerz (lol dno spelling)

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Added on March 22, 2011, 3:11 pmerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr................................................lol?

they put a rock on the 3rd at Taldarim -.- now blizzard really like their rocks o0o why cant they just settle down with a macro map???

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Mar 22 2011, 03:11 PM

Lol, it's Crevasse, and there are actually four new maps:

Terminus RE
Crossfire SE
Taldarim Altar
Crevasse

Just checked on Shakuras, it has been revised. No more backdoor rocks. No more backdoor abuse

Veto-ed! Lol.

lol

and i just checked my sc2gears statistics.......my ZvT record on scrap station is 4-0 and my TvZ record on scrap station is 1-7 WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

where did u find the changelog for 1.3?
cant seem to find it

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Added on March 22, 2011, 4:37 pmOk, i found it. Not released yet right, only on PTR

This post has been edited by hydrogen: Mar 22 2011, 04:37 PM

Release already. Just patch sc2 and u'll see the patch

ok, i just checked. i used NA account and theres no patch no matter how many time i restart. then i change my region into SEA, the patcher str8 away pop out.

it's released, confirm...unless ur previous login was on NA...then it shold be late

ya, i almost dont play on SEA XD

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Added on March 22, 2011, 10:19 pmowh dear, now i had updated the patch i can no longer log into NA -.-

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Mar 22 2011, 10:19 PM

Why NA? I don't play on it anymore coz experiencing a lot of delay on my 1Mbps streamyx, can't really micro MM well to kite, you don't have any lag or delay issue? Using Unifi?

This post has been edited by westley0214: Mar 22 2011, 10:31 PM

unifi. cz SEA is boring -.-

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Added on March 22, 2011, 10:51 pmespecially custom games....you get tons of those in NA

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Mar 22 2011, 10:51 PM

Anyone crashing a lot more often with 1.3? Playing tree tag alpha, crash. Loading 1v1 ladder, crash. NOTD crashes in loading. Play Zealot Frenzy, crash. So annoying. Especially when you're in an enjoyable game. -__-

I've just tried out the Vikings Flower on the new patch, what Blizzard did is basically disallow people to make an ultra-mini patrol, but decent mini distance patrol is still possible.

And still you will not be able to focus down on a single red health Viking or a Raven inside the quick-moving flower unless you really have counter-strike-like accuracy.

i find that 1.3 makes the interface quite laggy, game mode haven't tried yet

Just played a game with BC rush...
Move speed much faster but still feel slow....

Replay UI change already, race icons shown for each player. But somehow I saw another colour indicating all the producing the buildings. This makes the minimap have 4 colours (2 for each player).

Replay UI look sexier now. The observer options are nice (Ctrl+M, etc.)

I noticed a bug with achievements... in the Showcase area on players' profiles the text is wrong. LOL

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Added on March 23, 2011, 11:33 amya BC now move slightly faster, can micro nicely.
But i sad becos of slower Stimpack upgrade... takes eternity now.
luckily they didnt nerf the Concussive Shell upgrade


This post has been edited by hydrogen: Mar 23 2011, 11:33 AM

i don't quite agree when they disable the losses and number of games played view. I think it's good to know how many games u played and how many loses so that you can know your statistic..

Where is the master league people? Do we need to wait for a month to see master leagues?

I hope they nerf Terran as much as possible except siege tank. tired of hearing ppl complaining Terran is OP when they lose a game to me. I will play Terran as long as they have Tanks. Nerf marauder to 40 health and increase zergling health to 125, I dont mind.

we had master league months ago o.o

grandmaster league should be out by now. too bad i cant see haha

I dont see any of the top ppl in grand master yet

i lold

Didn't the patch say Grandmaster league wil only commence after 2 weeks of the 2nd season?
We're only in end of season 1 so no grandmaster league yet. =).
Sigh my bonus pool 3k plus for 1v1... Don't know how to clear it... zzz

grandmaster is in april according to blizzard notes...
1-2 weeks after the reset (reset is next week)

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Added on March 23, 2011, 1:47 pmu are nt the only one loling...

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Added on March 23, 2011, 2:47 pmps: idra love the infestor buff and thinks the new fungal is on the line OP in ZvP and would change ZvZ

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Mar 23 2011, 02:47 PM

Man the new league icons are so bright my eye hurts.

i think idra is right about this. fungal a stalker collosus deathball woots!!! 30% damage to collosus after the double DPS? double the woots!!!

zvz change cuz its no longer roach and muta fest? meh, i dont understand zvz anyway so lol

more n more ppl are gonna use infestors tats for sure

I played so many TvZs today and only one of them used infestors. I guess people are still getting used to infestors =D

infestor cant a-move...
if u a-mvoe they'll walk in front and headbutt the opponent army lol

Z still rarely use infestor...i think the last Z which use infestor against me was like last week.....where he try to nero parasite all my tanks...neh, it wont work lol

but Zs need to know that infestors are relatively cheap in zerg's POV, compare to ghost, you can get alot of infestor at one time easier....

MLG: Patch 1.3 on the PTR currently has the Infestor's Fungal Growth changed; it now deals damage in four seconds rather than eight, and deals extra damage to armored units. How do you think this will change Infestor usage in Zerg matchups?

Idra: It's going to be a massive change for Zerg. I think Infestors are going to be overpowered against Protoss now, and it's going to completely change ZvZ as it'll nullify Roaches beyond timing attacks. ZvT might not change too much, simply because Mutas are so good and it might not be worth the gas to get Infestors before the lategame. But Fungal is going to be ridiculously good now.

MLG: How do you think the Infestor change will change the Protoss army composition in ZvP?

Idra: I'm not really sure what they're going to do because their best composition versus Zerg is all armored: Stalkers, Collosi and Void Rays. And Fungal is going to destroy that now. But Protoss light units aren't very good versus Zerg into the mid/lategame; Banelings are very good if they can avoid forcefields, and Roach/Hydra is cost efficient versus light unit mixes as well. I think PvZ is likely to devolve into timing all-ins unless someone comes up with something weird

Bcoz Roach is Armored. And Fungal deal insane AoE dps at range of nine which will totatlly change ZvZ which is all abt roach war. ( if u survive early speed/bane )

terran n zerg getting buffed meanwhile protoss nerf day by day...
not only that fuk up blizzard giv back my lose i wanna view my w/l rate

i thought all the while only zerg getting buffed day by day...

new patch:

longer time to research stimpack
longer time to build bunker
increase a lil bit speed of BC (BC is useless anyway, nobody will use it)

the heck care bout stims n bunker....
C shell~!!!!
KA~!!!!!
VIKING airRANGE~!!!! cant they see this shit?

I wish this can be neft too, together will storm, blink, FF, immortal armor and collosus range. Fair

Everybody will be playing zerg at the end of the day

This post has been edited by jeffvip: Mar 24 2011, 03:28 PM

You don't play a race because it's OP or because it's easy. You want to play to have fun. That's the purpose of gaming.

What's the point of playing Zerg to climb up to master league and at the same time having to play ZvZ 90% of the time on SEA?

This post has been edited by westley0214: Mar 24 2011, 03:36 PM

why dun u ask blizzard just remove protoss then~?

yup.. thats what I mean in the end when u talk bout Terran, u might as well remove Terran gun, ask marauder to fight with karate and Viking for kamikaze... haha

Without prejudice,
I truly believe Protoss is the strongest race among the 3 now. I m trying to play toss as my 2nd race. Protoss is too cool; FF, storm, phoenix, warp technology, chronoboost and mama ship. Zerg and Terran comparable is very boring actually... (Terran is better bcos terran at least gt siege tank ). Protoss is still the strongest race imo...

This post has been edited by jeffvip: Mar 24 2011, 04:03 PM

ya go on~ try toss i bet u will QQ on T later

jeffvip can i like ur post

rock: paper is imba, scissors is fine

But All rock does is T 1A! how?

u missed out alt tab

thats brutal lol

I cant play toss fully, I m too slow to do all those cool stuff... just wanna try toss... maybe thats why I like Tank (immobilize )

i think u can play toss dun 4get ur kind QxC said 20apm can play protoss n he is terran~

qxc was a toss during beta....

it shows that he is unable keep up with protoss

I thought always zerg hate terran so much.... nvr really see a protoss also hate Terran so much until I saw u

ya im abit racist i hate terran more than anything since i lost to T ALOT while i at lower league~

Actually, I hope they buff carrier. I miss carrier vs bc

mass carrier was a good talent toi have

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hvIGt0yJ-8

good talent to have

This post has been edited by Timber2k7: Mar 25 2011, 05:00 AM

Marauders so cool

If this not imba than I don't know what imba is

This post has been edited by Calvin Seak: Mar 25 2011, 05:47 AM

i see failed forcefields
imba is timba without the t

Ff > t

USE FF LA~!!!!!!!!! u all got IMBA FF <---------- this *those lolder terran in the world will said that to us(protoss)*
btw that guy FF seriously PHAILED~ but true indeed if protoss NO FF n GOOD FF placement, we all will DIE HORRIBLELY TO LOLDER n Zergs

and the fact that you got FF and FF own ground army

giv me stronger gate unit that can kill marauder n marine without relying FF then yeah u can remove FF
dun u know how fragile is gate unit infront rax unit without FF n guardian shield????

I see your point. you are saying toss might lose an early battle if mis micro FF against MM and that is a risk everytime toss need to take.

But you gotta know, when u play this game long enough, ur skill of FF will only increase and to a point that this risk is almost 0%. By that time, MM is just a sitting duck for your FF to pawn. Bcos toss have more casting ability, the older the game become, the better Protoss is bcos they can improve while MM will be stay stagnant with only stimpack.

This post has been edited by jeffvip: Mar 25 2011, 09:50 AM

but but but terran got the imba EMP......no need research 1....... blizzard remove my KA.....ok i go COLOSI.....but but but viking with 28 air attack 9 range roll over my colosi...oh wait i go mass stalker.... oh my fuking god Marauder just laugh at my stalker...... end of stories PAWN the terran b4 he go anything MASSS

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Mar 25 2011, 09:59 AM

this scenario is valid 2 months ago... not now... I cannot remember when is the last time I roll over a good Protoss player with this strat. Maybe BC can be use in the late game to fight Toss now.

ps: I always remind my Protoss friend to use the most cunning unit of SC2, DARK TEMPLAR!

I tested the momship neft, units leaving the vortex can attack and are invi.... WTH....

PS: terran alwiz got the everywhere anywhere u wanted to see~ SCAN

Lol, you should remind your protoss fren to get a Robo instead of paper DT.

Hint: Terran hv a more accesible Cloaking unit and protoss don hv scan

This post has been edited by InFe_eD: Mar 25 2011, 10:26 AM

i guess u r only playing Protoss and Protoss only. Nowadays (in SC2), you can hardly see scan been made regularly bcos it is money

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Added on March 25, 2011, 10:31 amDT actually cause so much psychology damage to a Terran player that it will always disrupt the build order and the macro ability of Terran player. you just need to sent in a few DT in different place is enough to crack the Terran player (until they might feel wanna press gg straight away)

This post has been edited by jeffvip: Mar 25 2011, 10:31 AM

u got see how MVP kill alicia??

banshee > DT
not 2 mention that scv kill means nothing much to terran since u got the credit card MULES~

More theorycrafting ploz.

The fact is any standard PvT build will involve a Robo soley for the Obs or it's a direct BO lose if Terran go banshee.

Blind DT rush might work tho in bronze, but den which strat doesnt work at tat level?

This post has been edited by InFe_eD: Mar 25 2011, 10:43 AM

u guys get me wrong..

I didn't say DT rush at all... I say DT mid game when both supply is hover around 100 foods. Produce DT after 100, do psychological damage on Terran. thus

i) early advantage of Terran MMM army gone
ii) Protoss can max out much earlier than Terran
iii) Delay the ability of Terran to refill the army after 1st battle

Ohh, you mean DT into contain into Safe expand.

Only work if Terran din go tech and its a long rush distance

i) supply 100 huh~ that time u already got 2 OC how mindgame???
ii) protoss is the slowest max out among 3 race
iii)do u see GSL pro play mid game dT play?? coz once DT is expose DT is consider useless to harrass against T

i got a question, 1 league season is how long?

ask blizzard~

i) 2 OC so how? u get 4 DT to harrass, one each for the mining, 1 for main army and 1 more to attack main army/mining after 1st scan. A good terran wont keep his OC energy more than 100 dude, they will always mule. (If bad terran, u will pawn him in no time no matter what)

ii) I dont see how Protoss is a slowest max, even it is, 150 Protoss can match 170 Terran. Thats why u need DT harass more to slow down the macro of terran.

iii)I see alot, mixing DT inside main army is useful. sometime game deciding.

i wondering why GSL protoss dun use DT play so much like u mention~
they must a noob hor~ yeah they must b
btw at my league ladder~ terran that go MMM ball alwiz get e-bay early so there will alwiz b a turret~

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Mar 25 2011, 12:37 PM

most of the time arguement wont get click into the same channel if skill diffrent is huge lol......................anyway the game is still too young to judge. its obvious theres imbalances but blizzard is fixing it. *i hope*

QQ thread?

Less QQ more pew pew.

sry i QQ alot especially alot ppl know i QQer
especially nDL member all of them know i m QQer+rager

Zerg QQ Terran got Nerf.
Terran QQ Protoss got nerf.

Time for protoss to QQ bebeh

terran wont get nerf~especially when dustin browder and david kim favor terran

Nerf d, now TvZ super hard, especially these big map.

you just need to QQ Loud enuf like Zerg does

reduce marauder hp to 100
dmg to armor 15 and no stim then i ok with it
marauder just like dragoon with stim just that cant hit air n can pucking slow

errrr...........i just lost to a forge expand into super fast 3-3 stalker + zealot ball........i used marauder and blink stalkers with 3-3 just lol-ed i was like 2-2 also....wtfbbq

u terran lose to forge expand~?

D:

T.T today damn kesian, lost str8 3 games to a T Z P. fukken noob......gonna cut off my fingers soon

if tat is true, i wont see tester aka kisuu die to MKP's MM timing

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Added on March 25, 2011, 3:58 pmDT is good if u scouted ur opponent not getting detection which most terran will get...
if u go bio, u would need ebay for upgrades thus a no brainer...
if u go mech, u would get raven for PDD at least...

of course there's a timing window till terran gets it which is why u can see builds that ask u to -store energy for scan- and u can always scout wit a floating factory (they dun need fuel and can fly forever)...
the more u cut corners, the more u will die to DT...
the same as toss cutting corners skipping robo for templar/ stargate tech dying to banshee...

and if u are experienced enough u wont die to any of these harass...
see DT? stay calm and try to reduce the damage...
else u can do the 2 base 3-4 OC build (this is variable as we say top and a few other terrans using it now) giving u enough scans and mules (make turrets etc)...

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Added on March 25, 2011, 3:59 pmnt when the terran make turret even b4 i go DT (u know who am i talking about)...
its as though ppl know my PvT style now T.T

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Added on March 25, 2011, 3:59 pmup to blizzard

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Added on March 25, 2011, 4:03 pmconsidering 1 mule = 300 minerals...
why nt spend 1 mule on ebay n turret to not die to such things (its a small investment not to loose to such mistake)...
when u scout the protoss, u can roughly know what is coming ur way (like like toss scouting T)...

as i said, if u going bio u need to get upgrades so ebay is auto...
if u going mech, getting 1 raven for pdd energy and detection is not a bad idea...
unless u have good map awareness + scouting + knowing to keep scan energy like korean pros...

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Added on March 25, 2011, 4:06 pmWAIT...
the toss forge expanded?
all u need to do is jz to 3 rax and roll him...
else double expand...
first time i heard a toss forge expand (i assume ur game lvl is high since u play in KR and is diamond in NA so ur opponent wouldnt be bronze lvl)

and really do u have any medivacs???
cause marauders roll stalkers with stim regardless of blink as long as u dun a-move and know to get a good spread...

i soloed 2 toss blink stalkers vs my lolders ball and tat was not even close...
either ur macro is bad, not having medics (then u overstim) or pure a-move (didnt kite)...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Mar 25 2011, 04:14 PM

i played 1v1, terran, opponent is toss. i lold.

then, i sad. remembered patch nerf stim.

by the time my stim done (~6mins+) and reach his base, he got immortals. my rauders gg. my marines also gg cuz clamped by FF then stalker pew pew

i lost. SAD.

y go 1 base when u can concussive pressure-expand?