QUOTE(jeffvip @ Mar 25 2011, 09:49 AM)
I see your point. you are saying toss might lose an early battle if mis micro FF against MM and that is a risk everytime toss need to take.
But you gotta know, when u play this game long enough, ur skill of FF will only increase and to a point that this risk is almost 0%. By that time, MM is just a sitting duck for your FF to pawn. Bcos toss have more casting ability, the older the game become, the better Protoss is bcos they can improve while MM will be stay stagnant with only stimpack.
if tat is true, i wont see tester aka kisuu die to MKP's MM timing
Added on March 25, 2011, 3:58 pmQUOTE(jeffvip @ Mar 25 2011, 10:28 AM)
i guess u r only playing Protoss and Protoss only. Nowadays (in SC2), you can hardly see scan been made regularly bcos it is money
Added on March 25, 2011, 10:31 amDT actually cause so much psychology damage to a Terran player that it will always disrupt the build order and the macro ability of Terran player. you just need to sent in a few DT in different place is enough to crack the Terran player (until they might feel wanna press gg straight away)
DT is good if u scouted ur opponent not getting detection which most terran will get...
if u go bio, u would need ebay for upgrades thus a no brainer...
if u go mech, u would get raven for PDD at least...
of course there's a timing window till terran gets it which is why u can see builds that ask u to -store energy for scan- and u can always scout wit a floating factory (they dun need fuel and can fly forever)...
the more u cut corners, the more u will die to DT...
the same as toss cutting corners skipping robo for templar/ stargate tech dying to banshee...
and if u are experienced enough u wont die to any of these harass...
see DT? stay calm and try to reduce the damage...
else u can do the 2 base 3-4 OC build (this is variable as we say top and a few other terrans using it now) giving u enough scans and mules (make turrets etc)...
Added on March 25, 2011, 3:59 pmQUOTE(InFe_eD @ Mar 25 2011, 10:55 AM)
Ohh, you mean DT into contain into Safe expand.
Only work if Terran din go tech and its a long rush distance
nt when the terran make turret even b4 i go DT (u know who am i talking about)...
its as though ppl know my PvT style now T.T
Added on March 25, 2011, 3:59 pmQUOTE(axn992 @ Mar 25 2011, 11:28 AM)
i got a question, 1 league season is how long?
up to blizzard
Added on March 25, 2011, 4:03 pmQUOTE(jeffvip @ Mar 25 2011, 12:07 PM)
i) 2 OC so how? u get 4 DT to harrass, one each for the mining, 1 for main army and 1 more to attack main army/mining after 1st scan. A good terran wont keep his OC energy more than 100 dude, they will always mule. (If bad terran, u will pawn him in no time no matter what)
ii) I dont see how Protoss is a slowest max, even it is, 150 Protoss can match 170 Terran. Thats why u need DT harass more to slow down the macro of terran.
iii)I see alot, mixing DT inside main army is useful. sometime game deciding.
considering 1 mule = 300 minerals...
why nt spend 1 mule on ebay n turret to not die to such things (its a small investment not to loose to such mistake)...
when u scout the protoss, u can roughly know what is coming ur way (like like toss scouting T)...
as i said, if u going bio u need to get upgrades so ebay is auto...
if u going mech, getting 1 raven for pdd energy and detection is not a bad idea...
unless u have good map awareness + scouting + knowing to keep scan energy like korean pros...
Added on March 25, 2011, 4:06 pmQUOTE(quest_5692 @ Mar 25 2011, 02:30 PM)
errrr...........i just lost to a forge expand into super fast 3-3 stalker + zealot ball........i used marauder and blink stalkers with 3-3 just lol-ed i was like 2-2 also....wtfbbq
WAIT...
the toss forge expanded?
all u need to do is jz to 3 rax and roll him...
else double expand...
first time i heard a toss forge expand (i assume ur game lvl is high since u play in KR and is diamond in NA so ur opponent wouldnt be bronze lvl)
and really do u have any medivacs???
cause marauders roll stalkers with stim regardless of blink as long as u dun a-move and know to get a good spread...
i soloed 2 toss blink stalkers vs my lolders ball and tat was not even close...
either ur macro is bad, not having medics (then u overstim) or pure a-move (didnt kite)...
This post has been edited by evofantasy: Mar 25 2011, 04:14 PM