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Hardware [USER REVIEW] Sager/Clevo Horize NP8150 (P150HM), Gaming: i7-2720QM w/ NVIDIA GTX 485m

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TSThis is a Lamp
post May 16 2011, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(iiee @ May 12 2011, 09:14 PM)
aiyo, i am sooo headache to make decision on this notebook.  The keyboard layout is really killing, I do word processing a lot and keys like home, end, pg up, pg down are commonly used. 
Can those keys become direct key if numlock is off?

I can tolerate keyboard without backlit, i can tolerate awkward numpad, but i cannot tolerate the home end pgup pgdn key...
I never expect keyboard can become a decisive factor for notebook zzz...

Another notebook i am considering is the Dell M4600.  It offers everything i need except for the poor graphic card (~10% slower than 460m).

For Clevo i get only VGA but lose on dock station, keyboard, expresscard, 3G built in, 2nd hdd, warranty support.

Some rooms for upgrade for Clevo could be another plus point.
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Yes they can be direct keys when numlock is off. In fact, if you're worried about the numpad, you can download programs that change the mapping of your keys. So by this, you can change your numpad to be your own macro'ed keys (e.g. Home, Pg Up etc.)


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post May 21 2011, 01:41 AM

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hey bro let's give me some ideas... laugh.gif

I thought Creative X-Fi USB 5.1 Surround is used for a great replacement for low quality on-board audio systems?? Please correct me if I'm wrong 'coz I'm quite noob at this... blush.gif
Since I saw you have a THX TruStudio Pro Surround Sound & 3W Subwoofer (which is not bad) in your Sager laptop, so is there REALLY a BIG difference in listening music/watching movies/playing games after adding in your Creative X-Fi USB 5.1 Surround sound card?
Tell me, I'd like to know the differences 'coz I wonder if there's an urgent need for me to buy a Creative X-Fi USB 5.1 Surround sound card too... notworthy.gif
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post May 21 2011, 07:54 AM

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You would need external speaker/headphone if you use that sound card...
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post May 21 2011, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(DyHo77 @ May 21 2011, 01:41 AM)
hey bro let's give me some ideas...  laugh.gif

I thought Creative X-Fi USB 5.1 Surround is used for a great replacement for low quality on-board audio systems?? Please correct me if I'm wrong 'coz I'm quite noob at this... blush.gif
Since I saw you have a THX TruStudio Pro Surround Sound & 3W Subwoofer (which is not bad) in your Sager laptop, so is there REALLY a BIG difference in listening music/watching movies/playing games after adding in your Creative X-Fi USB 5.1 Surround sound card?
Tell me, I'd like to know the differences 'coz I wonder if there's an urgent need for me to buy a Creative X-Fi USB 5.1 Surround sound card too... notworthy.gif
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USB soundcard or expresscard soundcard is not able to use the laptop built-in speakers, you need to connect it to external speakers.
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post May 21 2011, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ May 21 2011, 07:54 AM)
You would need external speaker/headphone if you use that sound card...
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QUOTE(iiee @ May 21 2011, 12:49 PM)
USB soundcard or expresscard soundcard is not able to use the laptop built-in speakers, you need to connect it to external speakers.
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Oh Okay... why does TS still need a sound card? blush.gif Is it worth to buy?

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post May 21 2011, 09:19 PM

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I don't see the need for soundcard if buying this laptop actually for portable use. Addtional soundcard is needed if 5.1 channels sound is required and connected to 5.1 speakers.
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post May 21 2011, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(iiee @ May 21 2011, 09:19 PM)
I don't see the need for soundcard if buying this laptop actually for portable use.  Addtional soundcard is needed if 5.1 channels sound is required and connected to 5.1 speakers.
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Or real 5.1 headphone.
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post May 30 2011, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(iiee @ May 21 2011, 11:19 PM)
I don't see the need for soundcard if buying this laptop actually for portable use.  Addtional soundcard is needed if 5.1 channels sound is required and connected to 5.1 speakers.
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Realtek soundcards are average still.

The Creative SB 5.1 enhances the sound, like there's a really big gap between a Realtek and a Creative card.
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post Jun 5 2011, 10:58 PM

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hey Lamp, hv u try the 3G module in ur np8150?
TSThis is a Lamp
post Jun 9 2011, 03:08 PM

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I don't have a 3G module sorry sad.gif. But I did saw the slot for it, pretty easy to get to in fact.
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post Jul 7 2011, 09:57 PM

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Hi Lamp, I just ordered the NP8150 from XoticPC (just entered Phase 2 yesterday) with specs similar to yours except I got the Intel 320 80GB and I also have the Cryo LX. Thanks to your review, I am getting all pumped up to receive my system! Can't wait! tongue.gif

Edit: By the way, could you please point me the direction of the instructions for modding your Cryo LX? I am interested in cleaning out the fans in mine and probably mod in some new fans as well. smile.gif

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post Jul 10 2011, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Kk17nD @ Jul 7 2011, 11:57 PM)
Hi Lamp, I just ordered the NP8150 from XoticPC (just entered Phase 2 yesterday) with specs similar to yours except I got the Intel 320 80GB and I also have the Cryo LX. Thanks to your review, I am getting all pumped up to receive my system! Can't wait! tongue.gif

Edit: By the way, could you please point me the direction of the instructions for modding your Cryo LX? I am interested in cleaning out the fans in mine and probably mod in some new fans as well. smile.gif
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Thanks for reading smile.gif I'm sure you'll be amazed by the system. Sorry for the late replies though.

Anyway, if you'd like to mod your CryoLX, then look here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/accessorie...dell-m1730.html

I based my mods from the user above. Similar, if not the same procedures smile.gif
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post Jul 11 2011, 09:57 AM

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No worries, Lamp! I can't wait to receive my system! The wait is killing me though. Oh the number of games I wanna play on this system.... =/

Thank you for pointing me to the right site, I've seen this post before, but I was hoping that you'd have a more detailed instruction but I guess this is better than nothing. smile.gif
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post Jul 12 2011, 07:21 AM

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Well, it's not difficult haha.

There's just a number of screws that you need to track down and dismantle. Two things that you need to be wary of; not pulling off the cable that connects the fans to the controller (I mean violently smile.gif ), and the right airflow when placing the fans. Once placing the fans, check if the airflow is pushing cold air upwards...you can try checking this by placing an A4 paper on top of the grill mesh then see if it flies away, or hovers on the mesh.

All in all, it's actually a really easy mod and looks great after. Oh, ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING. You need a 12V DC adapter from NZXT to power desktop fans at full speed. If your packaging doesn't include it (it didn't come with mine), you can order a replacement DC adapter from NZXT for free!

This post has been edited by This is a Lamp: Jul 12 2011, 07:23 AM
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post Jul 12 2011, 09:39 PM

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Whats the different between screen size of 17 inch and 15 inch to a GTX485? Frame rate decrease as the screen gets bigger ?


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post Jul 13 2011, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Jul 11 2011, 06:21 PM)
Well, it's not difficult haha.

There's just a number of screws that you need to track down and dismantle. Two things that you need to be wary of; not pulling off the cable that connects the fans to the controller (I mean violently smile.gif ), and the right airflow when placing the fans. Once placing the fans, check if the airflow is pushing cold air upwards...you can try checking this by placing an A4 paper on top of the grill mesh then see if it flies away, or hovers on the mesh.

All in all, it's actually a really easy mod and looks great after. Oh, ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING. You need a 12V DC adapter from NZXT to power desktop fans at full speed. If your packaging doesn't include it (it didn't come with mine), you can order a replacement DC adapter from NZXT for free!
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I think I got the adapter, will have to go home to check the voltage again. All in all, good tips, will copy and paste to Word. tongue.gif

@TruthHurts
As for 17" vs 15", the only thing that matters is the screen resolution, the screen size doesn't matter. For example, a 1024x768 on a 17" screen will run better than 1920x1080 on a 15" screen, provided all the computer's specs and the program that you are running are the same in both systems.
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post Jul 14 2011, 09:38 AM

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Whats the different between screen size of 17 inch and 15 inch to a GTX485? Frame rate decrease as the screen gets bigger ?
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Usually this is the case, just as Kk17nD says above.

QUOTE(Kk17nD @ Jul 13 2011, 10:56 PM)
I think I got the adapter, will have to go home to check the voltage again. All in all, good tips, will copy and paste to Word. tongue.gif

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Okay! I've been reading about not connecting the USB ports to your PC or to any peripherals due to the high voltage load/high current load. I'm not entirely sure but I've seen accounts that said their stuff got fried. To this point, I never used the USB ports on my CryoLX for safety measures tongue.gif

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post Jul 14 2011, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Jul 13 2011, 08:38 PM)
Usually this is the case, just as Kk17nD says above.
Okay! I've been reading about not connecting the USB ports to your PC or to any peripherals due to the high voltage load/high current load. I'm not entirely sure but I've seen accounts that said their stuff got fried. To this point, I never used the USB ports on my CryoLX for safety measures tongue.gif
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Huh. I dunno, is this after modding? I've been connecting my stuff to USB on the stock Cryo LX like 3.5" HDD, 2.5" HDD, joystick, mouse but so far nothing fried. Only thing is maybe not enough power cause sometimes they dc when connected to the Cryo LX but no problems when connected directly to my laptop. This happens regardless of whether I use the adapter or not, it still dc as if there's not enough power for the USB hub in Cryo LX

So far, any issues on your NP8150 I should take note of? I'm still waiting on mine, I think I'm going to die from anticipation. laugh.gif
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post Aug 8 2011, 02:51 AM

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the audio jack can support 5.1?
can change the jack type if put the wrong jack type? like putting rear speaker jack into the mic?
have test on 2 random lappy ( vaio hp) cant do this...i dont know much about laptops. sad.gif

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