Well, a few points that i can think of

- They might not need 15GB anyway, it's a prudent prediction and it doesn't mean 15GB will be used after the installation, some are reserved for page file and other purposes.

- Storage is real cheap nowadays. 120GB HDD doesn't cost that much. And if you've 200GB of storage, 15GB doesn't even exceed 10% of it.

- You can't compare legacy OS with new OS. Windows XP took 2GB, Windows 98 took 700MB, Windows 1.0 took one floppy disk. But what can you do now with Win 1.0? It has to grow.
Of course, if you think you can do whatever you want with your Win98/XP now, then you can go ahead with it. But one day your OS will be obsolete (as you can see now WLM and WMP11 don't support Win2000) and you can't avoid that.

- Consuming more storage space won't really make the system bloated or slowing down the performance. It's the number of processes and the consumption of RAM that matters

Vista use lot of memory..need more than 512mb ..

That's normal i think. If u play high-end game, it also need at least 512Mb. cheer

so far anyone tried the new beta 2 yet? wonder how many weeks we need to wait till they make it downloadable to the normal public..

anyone here with an MSDN subscription? hehe

I got a friend who has that...Later I would ask him , hows the new BETA 2 ...

BTW , as for me...VISTA is just a bloatware OS , that needs huge amount of HDD , huge amount of memory and SLi Graphics card. Without it , your computer would be like 300Mhz Pentium II , with 128MB RAM , 4MB VRAM with Windows XP...Dont get me wrong...Its soo much bloated..I would wait for SP1 to come out , and then later I would think about moving to VISTA. So far , XP does a great job. I am not getting this VISTA thingy , as who knows..It might contain Blaster Virus as well...Suddenly , bam restart

I would rather use Tiger...it only needs 256MB of RAM to run...Bah , it even runs fine on a 1999 PowerMac G3 with 512MB of RAM and on a 500Mhz G3 Processor....I would wait [and save $$$$$]

YA!!! I don't think i will install vista too. Addition, my pc spec not that good. U need like dual core processor and high-end card. Winxp suit my pc!

Sorry for OT, i heard that winxp got SP3 soon. I think after vista release or what. Duno whether is rumour or not

I woke up early today morning, so i could play around with the Beta 2 build, and here are my thoughts:

Installation on my slow Maxtor 15GB disk took roughly 1 hour 15mins from booting up the installer to finish. Faster than previous builds. They cleaned up the interface and looks pretty good. Total space (default@Vista Ultimate Edition) = 6.67GB + 2.3GB for the page file = ~ 10GB. You can change the pagefile size later on though, like I did to 1GB.

Boot times are impressive; pretty much like my primary Win XP installation. Performance has further improved (from the last build 5365 that I had). No sluggish menus, loads, , hdd thrashing, etc. Bear in mind, that this is on my slower Maxtor 15Gb. If I install on the primary WD80GB, there shoud be further (though slight) loading benefits.

RAM usage = Heavy. Windows Classic theme @desktop with only the sidebar running (and other default services left on, untweaked) took up about 502MB of RAM. Changing to Windows Aero saw the usage go up to 680MB. Taskbar shows(with IE7 and 6 tabs open) RAM usage at roughly around 740MB. 2Gigs definately!

I don't like the default Start Menu options, though it is easily tweaked.
I'm gonna have to get used to the new default Explorer setup. Classic menus and folders is still available for those wondering.

For the ATI users, the Catalyst for Longhorn Beta 2 installs fine. Current driver revision adds Adaptive AA in the CCC options. Drivers (as before) show a GDI version of 9ex.

Might try some D3D and OGL demos on it later after lunch.

normal minima memory requirements for high end games = 1GB

best performance = 2gb

After reading your review, i don't think i want to install vista. Need at least 1GB ram

YA la! So are u using 2GB? Why don't make it 4Gb ram? Even best performance

Those previous versions were all different code, and Vista is too.
15GB= Expected HD space for OS+ Casual Apps like Office 2007.

Since 640K is enough....I wonder If I can run VISTA with 640K of RAM..!

issit a MUST to have CD-ROM ? if i got only DVD-ROm issit ok ? since dvd rom also can support cd rite ?

Yes, your DVD drive will be sufficient; and recommended too since Vista won't fit in one CD like Windows XP does.

All DVD-ROM drives should able to read CD-rom since it is backward compatible.

i think he is trying to make a joke

anyway, who am i to advise but imho, wait for sp1 to come out before jumping on the bandwagon for good.

every msoft os at start is crap and full of loopholes no matter what msoft tries to overhype any new security tool they have embedded into the OS.
its just the same everytime.

but if the os cant run properly with 512mb, i guess msoft just sold a huge chunk of the pie to Linux.
as it is linux is gaining ground, the more msoft push buyers to get new hardware, the more they would jump on the bandwagon.

some organization have also created thier own flavour of linux which imho is a good move so they would save cost and msoft would know where the ground lies and where the sky lies and where they are exactly

When you get all the BEST professional applications and games on Linux (not considering Cedega; it's awful), maybe people might try it.
TBH noone will see any benefits using Linux compared to the current Windows XP; and with Microsoft streamlining everything plus today's powerful PCs, I'm having a hard time imagining the mainstream consumer NOT having a copy of Windows, XP or Vista.

(And for the bugs/ SP1, you probably forgot how Vista testing and CTP launches were so different from previous Windows-es. It launches a year after the first beta with a completely rewritten kernel, doesn't seem to be as exploit-heavy as everyone thinks.)

I heard some rumors say, Vista used more memory comparing with Windows XP. And more, Vista drains laptop batteries. Here the story ::: ZDNet::Viata Drains Laptop Batteries.

Is M$ announce the requirement for Vista? I saw some HP Dual CORE laptop come with a sticker Vista capable. But some HP dual core doent come with tat sticker. Wonder y!

Vista Beta 2 will be available for download soon.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=298569

Its up now ...

thanks fariz !