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post Mar 11 2011, 09:21 AM, updated 15y ago

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While the main thread been infested with spoiler, i opened a spoiler thread here for discussing any in game storyline to avoid been read in the main thread.

Main LYN Dragon Age thread


Added on March 11, 2011, 9:44 am


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post Mar 11 2011, 10:21 AM

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hey i wonder, is killing the quanari boss in the destiny trailer = final end game?


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post Mar 11 2011, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(windboy @ Mar 11 2011, 10:21 AM)
hey i wonder, is killing the quanari boss in the destiny trailer = final end game?
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i think that is just the beginning?
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post Mar 11 2011, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(windboy @ Mar 11 2011, 10:21 AM)
hey i wonder, is killing the quanari boss in the destiny trailer = final end game?
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QUOTE(Forgotten06 @ Mar 11 2011, 03:48 PM)
That's just middle of the game.

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fuuuu i didnt reach that part doh.gif
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 11 2011, 04:03 PM)
fuuuu i didnt reach that part  doh.gif
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fuuuuu i no reach that part also.


anyway, regarding flemeth.

flemeth know morrigan gonna kill her, so flemeth made a backup copy of herself, 7-zip into .7z archive, then copy paste into usb amulet, then get hawke to do the unzipping process, yes?

did i get it right?

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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 11 2011, 04:03 PM)
fuuuu i didnt reach that part  doh.gif
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 11 2011, 04:10 PM)
fuuuuu i no reach that part also.
anyway, regarding flemeth.

flemeth know morrigan gonna kill her, so flemeth made a backup copy of herself, 7-zip into .7z archive, then copy paste into usb amulet, then get hawke to do the unzipping process, yes?

did i get it right?
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post Mar 11 2011, 04:55 PM

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o.o my roommate finished the game in 32 hours
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post Mar 11 2011, 05:20 PM

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Finished the game in less then 25 hours.
EXTREMELY DISSAPOINTED.
This is NO WHERE CLOSE TO DA:O

What i hated the most is the maps, is Bioware dev too lazy to make complex Epic Dungeon.
Talk about repetitive playing.. It was fun at first, but until the final you play in the same area and somewhat same kind of enemies makes it damn boring.

There in no "adventurous" feel to it like DA:O where u travel to new places and expect the unexpected.

After 5-10 hours in, it bored me..the 1st ever bioware game that ever bored me!!!!
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post Mar 11 2011, 07:06 PM

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What happens if you don't help Anders in Justice quest?

I haven't gone far enough in the story, but I'm suspicious he's gonna be a main villain hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 11 2011, 04:10 PM)
fuuuuu i no reach that part also.
anyway, regarding flemeth.

flemeth know morrigan gonna kill her, so flemeth made a backup copy of herself, 7-zip into .7z archive, then copy paste into usb amulet, then get hawke to do the unzipping process, yes?

did i get it right?
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yes,i presume so bcos the moment happens after the blight is over in dao.
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post Mar 11 2011, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Mar 11 2011, 07:06 PM)
What happens if you don't help Anders in Justice quest?

I haven't gone far enough in the story, but I'm suspicious he's gonna be a main villain hmm.gif
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lol
its funny to read some "walkthrough" when it just half done

i was checking our companion

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will leave u after the expedition, but they allow me to bring her (which i didnt)
i wonder what happen if you bring her along?
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post Mar 11 2011, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Mar 11 2011, 10:05 PM)
lol
its funny to read some "walkthrough" when it just half done

i was checking our companion

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will leave u after the expedition, but they allow me to bring her (which i didnt)
i wonder what happen if you bring her along?
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guys im on my 2nd playthrough.. Where the hell is isabella..she is not anywhere in the game!


Added on March 11, 2011, 10:26 pmand where is fenris??

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 11 2011, 10:20 PM)
guys im on my 2nd playthrough.. Where the hell is isabella..she is not anywhere in the game!


Added on March 11, 2011, 10:26 pmand where is fenris??
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2nd chapter ke 2nd playthrough?
meaning u already back from the expedition?

go to the Rose "something" bar lol she is there~
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Mar 11 2011, 10:36 PM)
2nd chapter ke 2nd playthrough?
meaning u already back from the expedition?

go to the Rose "something" bar lol she is there~
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2nd playthrough.. already finished the game this morning.. never met her or fenris lol
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 11 2011, 10:53 PM)
2nd playthrough.. already finished the game this morning.. never met her or fenris lol
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Since i am using a two handed warrior on my first playthrough, i didnt even use fenris once.
Just finished the game btw. The final boss is abit......underwhelming... Not as epic as DA:O
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QUOTE(Forgotten06 @ Mar 11 2011, 11:09 PM)
Since i am using a two handed warrior on my first playthrough, i didnt even use fenris once.
Just finished the game btw. The final boss is abit......underwhelming... Not as epic as DA:O
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hey where is fenris lol
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 11 2011, 11:19 PM)
hey where is fenris lol
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u need to do athenril's side quest, which means u got to choose the smuggler instead of the mercenary band.
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QUOTE(Forgotten06 @ Mar 11 2011, 11:09 PM)
Since i am using a two handed warrior on my first playthrough, i didnt even use fenris once.
Just finished the game btw. The final boss is abit......underwhelming... Not as epic as DA:O
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fenris is a b****, if u wanna have him u cant have mage in the party, and thats ridiculous
u will offend him if u try to protect apostate
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Mar 12 2011, 02:04 AM)
fenris is a b****, if u wanna have him u cant have mage in the party, and thats ridiculous
u will offend him if u try to protect apostate
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Okay this is very annoying mad.gif

So Bioware removed Healing tree from Merrill so we are mostly (unless you are mage) stuck with Anders, then we can hear Anders whine the whole game until we understand why he would do that final act doh.gif There has to be better ways to move the plot without forcing us to put up with that annoying companion restriction.
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Just finished the game and...


Sebastian end game spoilers
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Regarding the story,
Its not really a spoiler but...
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Anyone also thinks that Arishok can 1v1 Meredith? laugh.gif

EDIT: didn't like the story at first... but when you think about how they weaved the individual plot points to combine into that unfortunate conclusion, it's really a nicely done story.

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Dislike the ending totally....Origin has a better story.
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post Mar 13 2011, 05:41 PM

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fuuuuuu almost buy this game... after bad review from others i dun play

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got this info from guy name encikpali
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Orlesian = French

Antivan = Italian but with Spanish accent rclxub.gif

Fereldan = British?

Elf = Jewish laugh.gif
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how do i recruit sebastien vael? i killed the 3 merc gangs. Then he gave me the reward at the chantry and just disappeared like that doh.gif
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My companions were mainly Varric, Bethany, Anders and Isabela. Didn't take Aveline along much. I had Bethany as my main mage till that b**** died so I HAD to take Anders.

Two rogues, my warrior and one mage. Else my usual standard would be two mages, one range and one tank.

Mages are and always OP. LOL.
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@mekboyz : i got sebastion on the 2nd chapter... after u finish the deep roads expedition... he will give u another quest about his family which will lead him to join u...

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i bring isabella to the mission "haunted by varric

that damm isabella scream wen see ghost scare the hell out of me. lol


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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 13 2011, 08:59 PM)
how do i recruit sebastien vael? i killed the 3 merc gangs. Then he gave me the reward at the chantry and just disappeared like that doh.gif
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http://www.gamefront.com/dragon-age-2-companions/

he is at the chantry later on, meet him again

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when i (hawke) found mum, saw the stitches ... i was ... reminded of ...

Mark Shelly's Frankenstein (1994)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109836/

feel like wanna puke. sweat.gif
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Finished the game not long ago. I like the fact they had that rise of tevinter imperium rise and templar political thingy shit and anders blowing up the chantry. What I hated was that the final boss was all flying around and shit. I would have liked the Arishok as the final boss better. All in all, it was a wee bit too easy this game.

Can't compare DA2 and DAO cause it's DAO hands down. Bioware really disappointed big time.
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Mar 14 2011, 11:28 AM)
Finished the game not long ago. I like the fact they had that rise of tevinter imperium rise and templar political thingy shit and anders blowing up the chantry. What I hated was that the final boss was all flying around and shit. I would have liked the Arishok as the final boss better. All in all, it was a wee bit too easy this game.

Can't compare DA2 and DAO cause it's DAO hands down. Bioware really disappointed big time.
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you can always play higher difficulty laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zonan4 @ Mar 13 2011, 05:41 PM)
fuuuuuu almost buy this game... after bad review from others i dun play
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wor, bro dont judge by what ppl say man, play first then only decide. dry.gif
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Finished the game yesterday, with all party members surviving biggrin.gif. Sided with the mages in the final battle.

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BTW, did anyone else kill the High Dragon? One of the few fights in the game that is actually harder than its DA:O counterpart IMO.

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 14 2011, 11:08 AM)
when i (hawke) found mum, saw the stitches ... i was ... reminded of ...

Mark Shelly's Frankenstein (1994)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109836/

feel like wanna puke. sweat.gif
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I shed manly tears on that chapter.

QUOTE(Spiritviper @ Mar 14 2011, 12:00 PM)
Finished the game yesterday, with all party members surviving  biggrin.gif. Sided with the mages in the final battle.

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BTW, did anyone else kill the High Dragon? One of the few fights in the game that is actually harder than its DA:O counterpart IMO.
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I played it on a harder difficulty bro and I found a bug accidently that you can level non stop and get infinite money. The higher level you get, the difficulty of the game also harder.

About the high dragon, It's the hardest in DA2 but non compared to DAO. Mage is imba in DA2. Just spam skills and everything around will die.
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was the story a good one guys? I'm thinking of picking this up...and with the high res pack it looks pretty good...the story though is more of a deciding factor for me...what do u guys think about the story? DAO was pretty straightforward but epic...Scorpion King has big army of anubis...call some medjai to help defeat the army and finally 1v1 with Scorpion King to save the world...made u feel like u made a difference...what about DA2?
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QUOTE(reehdus @ Mar 14 2011, 02:05 PM)
was the story a good one guys? I'm thinking of picking this up...and with the high res pack it looks pretty good...the story though is more of a deciding factor for me...what do u guys think about the story? DAO was pretty straightforward but epic...Scorpion King has big army of anubis...call some medjai to help defeat the army and finally 1v1 with Scorpion King to save the world...made u feel like u made a difference...what about DA2?
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Read the previous comments. Everyone has their own opinions about the story and gameplay. For me, I found it was a very disappointing game for all its hype. Disappointing is the word for me.
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for me its just been dumb down

but still is accetable level, not until like wanna die
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wtf i just killed a whole dalish encampment. is there anyway to prevent this? other than not doing merrill's quest.

also, lol @ anders gathering gunpowder & fertilizer to "seperate himself from justice". obvious much?

alot of the companions are getting on my nerves sleep.gif
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QUOTE(NecrosavaNt @ Mar 14 2011, 03:53 PM)
wtf i just killed a whole dalish encampment. is there anyway to prevent this? other than not doing merrill's quest.

also, lol @ anders gathering gunpowder & fertilizer to "seperate himself from justice". obvious much?

alot of the companions are getting on my nerves sleep.gif
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you have to select the last dialogue option, something like "I take responsibility"
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oh? hmm.. too late now. i told myself i'd live with my decisions when i started playing.
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Damn....the story was revolving more toward kirkwall's internal politics rather than fighting with darkspawn, i know that the archdemon is dead but there's still remnant darkspawn scattering all over the place. I'm kinda disappointed with the storyline though
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Anyone managed to become Viscount? Supposedly the criteria was:

1. Friendly with Cullen
2. Told Alistair you wanna be Viscount (confirm??)
3. Side with Templars in final battle
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it pisses me off knowing that 2 of my companions caused the deaths of so many innocents. thank god i got to f*ck them up

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QUOTE(NecrosavaNt @ Mar 14 2011, 05:06 PM)
it pisses me off knowing that 2 of my companions caused the deaths of so many innocents. thank god i got to f*ck them up
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anders and merill?

eh i just realized merill is a temporary companion in dalish elf origins. sweat.gif
i never played dalish elf origins so i dunno. doh.gif

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Merrill

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first, the story is near/completely different from the DA:O. with only slight reference to the DA:O story.
second, the gameplay have been completely overhauled. So ppl, who played DA:O. U feel that is been dumb downed cos they are no longer following D&D system.

My review, DA2 is a mix reaction
inventory system simplfied, companion inventory prefix :facepalm:
skills/spells tree replace the old system
combat feels more violent and fast. some say dumb down to hack and slash.
graphics improvement
more empahsise story and choices
spend most of the time in kirkwall and surrounding (similar to baulder gate)
lots of backtracking, reuse of map/textures from the DA:O, very limited enviroment changes.
and alot easier.


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I played it on a harder difficulty bro and I found a bug accidently that you can level non stop and get infinite money. The higher level you get, the difficulty of the game also harder.

About the high dragon, It's the hardest in DA2 but non compared to DAO. Mage is imba in DA2. Just spam skills and everything around will die.
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hmm at least meredith proved to be a bad455 final boss (in my play-through)

QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 14 2011, 05:08 PM)
anders and merill?

eh i just realized merill is a temporary companion in dalish elf origins. sweat.gif
i never played dalish elf origins so i dunno. doh.gif

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Merrill
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i was thinking of anders and isabella actually

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QUOTE(NecrosavaNt @ Mar 14 2011, 05:42 PM)
i was thinking of anders and isabella actually
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That's also what I think.

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The Anders one can be prevented though, while Isabella's you can only influence its conclusion and whether she stays or not.
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Siding with Templars gives new info:

First Enchanter Orsino is responsible for Hawke's mother's death. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Spiritviper @ Mar 14 2011, 06:30 PM)
That's also what I think.

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The Anders one can be prevented though, while Isabella's you can only influence its conclusion and whether she stays or not.
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i just gave her up to the qunari. her reaction was priceless. nobody f**ks with me. HAHA.
and are you sure ander could be prevented? cause i read in the bioware forums that its unavoidable.
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Yeah agree that Isabella's irresponsibility is somewhat irritating, but since she came back to return the relic it's all good laugh.gif

Anders I can't stand simply because he whines the WHOLE game! rclxub.gif He would even whine during team banter.
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Mar 14 2011, 08:30 PM)
Yeah agree that Isabella's irresponsibility is somewhat irritating, but since she came back to return the relic it's all good laugh.gif

Anders I can't stand simply because he whines the WHOLE game! rclxub.gif He would even whine during team banter.
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wtf in my game she never came back. fuuuuuu.

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QUOTE(NecrosavaNt @ Mar 14 2011, 07:40 PM)
i just gave her up to the qunari. her reaction was priceless. nobody f**ks with me. HAHA.
and are you sure ander could be prevented? cause i read in the bioware forums that its unavoidable.
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Ahh, sorry, my bad. Turns out the wikia is a bit slow in updating tongue.gif

Well, I kept him alive though. He's too useful as a healer to pass up, not to mention it ruins my chances for an "all companions survive" playthough biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 14 2011, 09:49 PM)
wtf in my game she never came back. fuuuuuu.
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i think you have to be on really good terms with her. this is wat ticked me off though. coming back and acting like everything's fine or will turn out fine. NOPE. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 14 2011, 09:49 PM)
wtf in my game she never came back. fuuuuuu.
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Mar 15 2011, 08:07 AM)
perhaps not enough intimacy?

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Lol, yea i first look at him and say.. OMG is LINK, just a bit tad too adult and old xD
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I don't have a problem with the hack and slash style cause i started playing RPG hack and slash first back then. Just the story that it focus more on the political part. It was nowhere near being about battling darkspawn. What about the architect from Awakening? How come he never came back?

I just thought that the impact of choices you made in DAO will affect DA2 more, like I let Branka live and she made a heck load of golems and maybe I might battle her or some shit. It didn't make much difference having imported my story to DA2.
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Mar 15 2011, 03:35 PM)
I don't have a problem with the hack and slash style cause i started playing RPG hack and slash first back then. Just the story that it focus more on the political part. It was nowhere near being about battling darkspawn. What about the architect from Awakening? How come he never came back?

I just thought that the impact of choices you made in DAO will affect DA2 more, like I let Branka live and she made a heck load of golems and maybe I might battle her or some shit. It didn't make much difference having imported my story to DA2.
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Well the game story it self does not talk much about the Warden of Ferelden, and is more about the Champion that rise to power, and you can see that if you side with the mage, is all chaos and wonders biggrin.gif
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fuuuuuu i asked for monies for returning the 10 qunari swords.
in the end i dun get the special qunari sword after returning the 10 qunari swords

raaaaaaaaaaggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Has anyone tried siding with the Templars? I guess you still have to massacre the mages and then Meredith right? I'm on my 2nd play through with a warrior now.
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 16 2011, 10:36 AM)
fuuuuuu i asked for monies for returning the 10 qunari swords.
in the end i dun get the special qunari sword after returning the 10 qunari swords

raaaaaaaaaaggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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my bethany is dead.. shakehead.gif
raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee vmad.gif

stupid me for bringing her along to the expidition...
now i dunt have a damage dealing mage doh.gif
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Has anyone tried siding with the Templars? I guess you still have to massacre the mages and then Meredith right? I'm on my 2nd play through with a warrior now.
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Not much difference, but you get some extra information on the blood mage murderer.
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Mar 16 2011, 10:52 AM)
my bethany is dead..  shakehead.gif
raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  vmad.gif

stupid me for bringing her along to the expidition...
now i dunt have a damage dealing mage  doh.gif
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haha
i lost my bethany early game even before level 3 since she's not meant to stay for a mage champion
then i lost carver in the deep roads since he's made grey warden
need to change NPCs etc etc

use anders as ur battlemage lah
he's my imba healer and damager
get him to drink maker's sigh


with me as AOE and perma-lightning and healer, i use fenris as tank and varric as stunner
even dragons cant defeat my party
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Mar 16 2011, 10:52 AM)
my bethany is dead..  shakehead.gif
raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  vmad.gif

stupid me for bringing her along to the expidition...
now i dunt have a damage dealing mage  doh.gif
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i didnt bring her together
so she get caught by templar instead

at the end of act 3 she join u back again against meredith

i hear if u bring ander and bethany, she become warden instead
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Mar 16 2011, 04:13 PM)
i didnt bring her together
so she get caught by templar instead

at the end of act 3 she join u back again against meredith

i hear if u bring ander and bethany, she become warden instead
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I did that exactly, If you bring Ander together with Betheny/Caver, they wil be grey wardens.


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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 16 2011, 04:03 PM)
haha
i lost my bethany early game even before level 3 since she's not meant to stay for a mage champion
then i lost carver in the deep roads since he's made grey warden
need to change NPCs etc etc

use anders as ur battlemage lah
he's my imba healer and damager
get him to drink maker's sigh
with me as AOE and perma-lightning and healer, i use fenris as tank and varric as stunner
even dragons cant defeat my party
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Sad T_T i didnt recruit Fenris with me.. haha and i say im lucky to do so, since ppl say he complain/whine a lot.. xD

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right, so i tried out both mages and templars ending.

i would say templars ending is much better.
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 17 2011, 09:06 PM)
right, so i tried out both mages and templars ending.

i would say templars ending is much better.
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i din give arulin'holm to merill...
and her rivalry towards me become +35... :|

am i doin it right??
i mean for the world of course...
coz i think i trust keeper more than merill...
merill just like errr...
how do i say...
budak mentah...

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now i feel like i made a bad choice...
another 50 points rivalry added when i go talk to merill at her house...
dayummm...


Added on March 18, 2011, 1:20 ami dunno how do they calculate...
merill come to hawke house...
then romen2...
after romen2 rivalry added more 25 points...
sigh...

but after that she change to a new outfit...
and that outfit look nice on her...
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Just finished my first playthrough on normal. My companions are Varric, Isabella and Merril. It's harder since have to rely on potion and no warrior as tanker (I'm a DW rogue). But the battle become more interesting.

Also, I didn't know that I can have to lovers at the same time. hehe. I'm using a fem Hawke and in a relationship with Isabella and Merril at the same playthrough. (no 3P only 1on1)


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QUOTE(Darkz01 @ Mar 17 2011, 11:53 PM)
now i feel like i made a bad choice...
another 50 points rivalry added when i go talk to merill at her house...
dayummm...


Added on March 18, 2011, 1:20 ami dunno how do they calculate...
merill come to hawke house...
then romen2...
after romen2 rivalry added more 25 points...
sigh...

but after that she change to a new outfit...
and that outfit look nice on her...
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Just reloaded my save game siding the templar to see the ending. Did anyone notice Zevran during the battle with Meredith? I paused while issuing commands and saw him killing Meredith along with my other companions. Why the heck was he even there? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(flix @ Mar 18 2011, 02:18 AM)
Just reloaded my save game siding the templar to see the ending. Did anyone notice Zevran during the battle with Meredith? I paused while issuing commands and saw him killing Meredith along with my other companions. Why the heck was he even there?  sweat.gif
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wahh need screenie.. zevran? This is mindfucuking
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QUOTE(flix @ Mar 18 2011, 02:18 AM)
Just reloaded my save game siding the templar to see the ending. Did anyone notice Zevran during the battle with Meredith? I paused while issuing commands and saw him killing Meredith along with my other companions. Why the heck was he even there?  sweat.gif
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if you side with templars, the grey wardens Nathaniel howe and zevran will join in the battle.
i dun see either of them when i side with mages.


i guess this means that the grey wardens approve if you side with templars.

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From the official game guide:
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You can have up to eight allies active in the final battle
against Meredith:
â—† Hawke and the three members of the active party,
plus Cullen: a mandatory fixture.
â—† Dog counts towards the total, so you might wish to
send him away in order to see other cameos.
◆ As Meredith’s health falls throughout the battle,
additional companions can join the fray. In order of
priority, these are Bethany, Carver, Varric, Anders,
Aveline, Fenris, Isabela and Sebastian.
Finally, there are three additional cameos that can occur
if you have completed specific quests: Donnic (if you
completed The Long Road and have Aveline in the
party), Zevran (A Murder of Crows) and Nathaniel
(Finding Nathaniel).

I completed the game but didn't get the Nathaniel quest... Instead I got the quest find the 3 brothers in the Deep Roads.
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QUOTE(lung @ Mar 18 2011, 08:07 AM)
From the official game guide:

I completed the game but didn't get the Nathaniel quest... Instead I got the quest find the 3 brothers in the Deep Roads.
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did you import your awakening save game, and recruited Natheniel as a grey warden back then?

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Nope. I started from DA2 scratch.

Anyway overall the DA2 story is not bad, but it could definitely be better. I was expecting to become Viscount during the game, not AFTER. The end of Act 3 should be a whole new Act in itself (where we can participate) instead of just mere narrations.

Or maybe they should switch Act 2 and Act 3 around. The Arishok was definitely a better antagonist than Meredith imo.

So how will the story go if you didn't help Anders to complete his companion quest? Anyone tried that?
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QUOTE(lung @ Mar 18 2011, 10:14 AM)
Nope. I started from DA2 scratch.

Anyway overall the DA2 story is not bad, but it could definitely be better. I was expecting to become Viscount during the game, not AFTER. The end of Act 3 should be a whole new Act in itself (where we can participate) instead of just mere narrations.

Or maybe they should switch Act 2 and Act 3 around. The Arishok was definitely a better antagonist than Meredith imo.

So how will the story go if you didn't help Anders to complete his companion quest? Anyone tried that?
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Hes gonna C4 the chantry regardless..thats what ive heard from BW forum
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QUOTE(flix @ Mar 18 2011, 02:18 AM)
Just reloaded my save game siding the templar to see the ending. Did anyone notice Zevran during the battle with Meredith? I paused while issuing commands and saw him killing Meredith along with my other companions. Why the heck was he even there?  sweat.gif
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Well, I saw both Liliana and Zevran in my playthrough...And zevran appear in the final battle. Not sure where is Liliana =/
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QUOTE(Forgotten06 @ Mar 18 2011, 10:53 AM)
Well, I saw both Liliana and Zevran in my playthrough...And zevran appear in the final battle. Not sure where is Liliana =/
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Yeah that we sooo random... he was just a sidequest story, tiba-tiba helping us in Final Battle.
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To have Nathaniel and Donnic to fight together with you for the final battle is acceptable but to see Zevran there was just WTF. Might as well have Alistair, Leliana and Flameth too since they appeared in the story before.

Going to reload my save game again and try siding mages, keeping Anders by my side and see who will appear during the final battle.

Find that the final battle is so much easier compared to the fight against the High Dragon, Arishok and that Golem boss in the Deep Roads.

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QUOTE(Forgotten06 @ Mar 18 2011, 10:53 AM)
Well, I saw both Liliana and Zevran in my playthrough...And zevran appear in the final battle. Not sure where is Liliana =/
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The "Agent" from is circle is leliana. she also appear after u finish the game, she is with the chantry seeker
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The "Agent" from is circle is leliana. she also appear after u finish the game, she is with the chantry seeker
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is there any difference in her involvement if you romanced her in DA1?
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There he is, Zevran appears once Meridith starts summoning those statues. He appears to aid you even when you side the templars or mages.




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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Mar 18 2011, 01:59 PM)
is there any difference in her involvement if you romanced her in DA1?
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She will mention something like the "Warden is dear to me".

Somehow I feel like Bioware running out of original storyline and recycling.
The Champion disappearing at the end reminds me of Revan.
Bethany somehow reminds me of Imoen.
Aveline? Jaheira (except you can't romance her).
And I don't know why but ya Isabela kinda sounds like Morrigan.

Also this instalment of DA, I don't really feel like I'm in a fantasy world. I mean when I walk into the Hanged Man, it feels more of a bar than a tavern. I miss the atmosphere where Neverwinter Nights and Witcher manage to convey.
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Mar 18 2011, 01:59 PM)
is there any difference in her involvement if you romanced her in DA1?
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dont expect much, she just a pelakon tambahan ~
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The final quest actually make me choose a hard decision, bloody hell choosing any side end up antagonizing the other side, but meredith was a freaking a-hole. Even i choose her side she still betray me at the end.

I also wonder why flemeth doesn't play any role in the game despite the devs go all the trouble to design her new fancy outlook ???

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QUOTE(TimKen @ Mar 18 2011, 05:29 PM)
The final quest actually make me choose a hard decision, bloody hell choosing any side end up antagonizing the other side, but meredith was a freaking a-hole. Even i choose her side she still betray me at the end.

I also wonder why flemeth doesn't play any role in the game despite the devs go all the trouble to design her new fancy outlook ???
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personally i think siding with the templars is a much better choice.
remember, you support the templars, not the crazy b1tch meredith.

as for flemeth, well, perhaps we can see more of her in upcoming dragon age 2 DLCs.

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 18 2011, 05:37 PM)
personally i think siding with the templars is a much better choice.
remember, you support the templars, not the crazy b1tch meredith.

as for flemeth, well, perhaps we can see more of her in upcoming dragon age 2 DLCs.
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Nooooo!!! Templars oppress the mages.. We mages are human also.. it is discrimination!
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 18 2011, 05:43 PM)
Nooooo!!! Templars oppress the mages.. We mages are human also.. it is discrimination!
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lulz u reload save game then see what happens if u side mages.


it is meridith oppress mages, not templars.

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You choose Mage also Orsino turned on you... That one also a bit weirdo, out of the blue suddenly he cut his wrist become blood mage. Like wtf la?
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Actually orsino knows about that blood mage that kill hawke's mother.
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QUOTE(lung @ Mar 18 2011, 05:51 PM)
You choose Mage also Orsino turned on you... That one also a bit weirdo, out of the blue suddenly he cut his wrist become blood mage. Like wtf la?
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orsino is weakling.
he cannot use normal magic to win and need to rely on blood magic.
that's why.

QUOTE(TimKen @ Mar 18 2011, 05:55 PM)
Actually orsino knows about that blood mage that kill hawke's mother.
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yeah, he bloody chee bye one that orsino.
the only good mages are the bethany, the few that ran away from orsino to surrender.


even the few blood mages that i let them escape also go crazy, go and kidnap bethany and wanna kill the champion.
crazy people.


poor thrask kesian the mages only kena killed by them.
bloody idiots them mages.



so, yeah, side with templars, them stupid mages must die.

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i side with templar end up had to kill anders sad.gif
leaving me without any healer on the boss fight....
i also notice at the last battle with meredith, zevran appear from no where and help me

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QUOTE(TimKen @ Mar 18 2011, 06:03 PM)
i side with templar end up had to kill anders sad.gif
leaving me without any healer on the boss fight....
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use bethany lor.

anders another idiot also.
i let him go, he come back later then die by my sword in 2 hits.

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 18 2011, 06:08 PM)
use bethany lor.

anders another idiot also.
i let him go, he come back later then die by my sword in 2 hits.
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The stupid anders also bloody chee bye la(borrowed from deimos tongue.gif) ..suddenly kiss my male hawke for no reason WTF mang...i never used Heart icon on him..damn gay +9999

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 18 2011, 06:13 PM)
The stupid anders also bloody chee bye la(borrowed from deimos tongue.gif) ..suddenly kiss my male hawke for no reason WTF mang...i never used Heart icon on him..damn gay +9999
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Mar 18 2011, 07:15 PM)
you must have heart-ed him brows.gif +9999
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QUOTE(TimKen @ Mar 18 2011, 05:55 PM)
Actually orsino knows about that blood mage that kill hawke's mother.
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Eh explain about this... I lazy to replay again templar side just to see this story.

Anders = Al-Qaeda
Blood Mages = Suicide bomber
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Deimos you have shown me the ways of the warrior. My god their crowd control and damage is insane.
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QUOTE(lung @ Mar 18 2011, 07:40 PM)
Eh explain about this... I lazy to replay again templar side just to see this story.

Anders = Al-Qaeda
Blood Mages = Suicide bomber
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if you side with templar you will have to kill orsino first(he will turn into some big fat fugly monster)
then after that you have to kill meredith
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 18 2011, 06:13 PM)
The stupid anders also bloody chee bye la(borrowed from deimos tongue.gif) ..suddenly kiss my male hawke for no reason WTF mang...i never used Heart icon on him..damn gay +9999
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Mar 18 2011, 07:15 PM)
you must have heart-ed him brows.gif +9999
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 18 2011, 07:18 PM)
lol no heart seriously.. someone else at bioware forums also reported the guy would kiss u for no apparent reason.. demmmm
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hahah in my playthrough he never kissed my guy hawke.
i guess he didnt heart anders enough.

QUOTE(lung @ Mar 18 2011, 07:40 PM)
Eh explain about this... I lazy to replay again templar side just to see this story.

Anders = Al-Qaeda
Blood Mages = Suicide bomber
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orsino will explain that he know about hawke's mum killer and why he did not expose the killer.

QUOTE(Dr Jan Itor @ Mar 18 2011, 07:57 PM)
Deimos you have shown me the ways of the warrior. My god their crowd control and damage is insane.
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hahah actually i think all classes crowd control and damage is insane too.

QUOTE(TimKen @ Mar 18 2011, 08:59 PM)
if you side with templar you will have to kill orsino first(he will turn into some big fat fugly monster)
then after that you have to kill meredith
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well, orsino will turn into the harvester even if you side with mages.
stupid idiot.

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QUOTE(lung @ Mar 18 2011, 05:51 PM)
You choose Mage also Orsino turned on you... That one also a bit weirdo, out of the blue suddenly he cut his wrist become blood mage. Like wtf la?
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Same here, I reloaded the game to side with mages, to avoid battle with Orsino. He's harder to kill compare to Meredith. Then what happen? He cut his palm for no solid reason, to become a blood mage. doh.gif

Luckily I'm using Fem Hawke to avoid any 'gayness'. hehe
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NPCs & Companions = retarded decisions.. retarded decisions everywhere.

Orsino, wtf. there was like 6 templars charging in, "OMG WE ARE FINISHED, USE BLOODMAGIC" and attack the people on ur side -___-
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ima male hawke and there was no gayness scene for me! wooohooo
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im bisexual hawke
hahaha

anyway, i'd like to ask on the arwegian scrolls
i dunno why i only have completed the first and third aspect (based on my journal)
i failed to encounter the 3 revenants for the 2nd aspect (Read from the strategy guide at dragon age 2 wiki)

what should i do eh?
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Why is Varric so fukken overpowered mang? That three shot bolts with bianca, his speed and crit abilities. Luckily I decided to abandon my desire to be an archer. I would have looked pathetic when compared to him. I've raped an entire band of mercs with varric alone while my other companions were dead.
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Varric. The whole story also evolved around Varric.

He seek the hero after rejected by his bro.

He joined hero and helped him.

He went into the deep road and his bro.

He came back and his bro idol.

what else?

At the end his bro's idol in the hand of the lady~

Oh, he is also the story teller and vow to help seeker.
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 19 2011, 04:18 PM)
im bisexual hawke
hahaha

anyway, i'd like to ask on the arwegian scrolls
i dunno why i only have completed the first and third aspect (based on my journal)
i failed to encounter the 3 revenants for the 2nd aspect (Read from the strategy guide at dragon age 2 wiki)

what should i do eh?
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the 2nd aspect is also at sundermount. is found when you're on the way to the passage way. is somewhere around the ruins. once gotten it, you will need to enter the passage way and you'll notice there is a new exit or some sort.
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QUOTE(shojikun @ Mar 19 2011, 08:51 PM)
the 2nd aspect is also at sundermount. is found when you're on the way to the passage way. is somewhere around the ruins. once gotten it, you will need to enter the passage way and you'll notice there is a new exit or some sort.
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i tried it
i saw in my map at sundermount base and sundermount top the spot called hidden lair
at the top at the graveyard i did fought with corpses and one arcane horror
but when i went up the top past the shrine to the hidden lair just before the cave called "pride's end", no fight occured
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hmm try go again? because before that i did go all the way through when i first encounter the ressurected Flemeth. Then the 2nd time i go is when i get the aspect sad.gif

But in your case i dont know.. T_T
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QUOTE(shojikun @ Mar 20 2011, 01:02 AM)
hmm try go again? because before that i did go all the way through when i first encounter the ressurected Flemeth. Then the 2nd time i go is when i get the aspect sad.gif

But in your case i dont know.. T_T
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nah
i gave up trying
i read the guide at dragon age wiki that i should have a ring called celebrant should i have completed the second aspect but i dont have it (i collected all jeweleries and stash them)
i went to wounded coast again and climbed sundermount all 3x
no encounter
i guess mine's just a bad glitch
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any of u suffered the slomo effect as mages once u get isabela's full frenship?
i did and im stopping where im playing now n wait for a patch


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my bethany is dead either on the prelude or after the deep road expedition....how to keep her alive until the end ?
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QUOTE(TimKen @ Mar 20 2011, 09:24 AM)
my bethany is dead either on the prelude or after the deep road expedition....how to keep her alive until the end ?
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Either bring Anders to deep roads with her, or don't bring her at all huh.gif
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 20 2011, 12:44 AM)
i tried it
i saw in my map at sundermount base and sundermount top the spot called hidden lair
at the top at the graveyard i did fought with corpses and one arcane horror
but when i went up the top past the shrine to the hidden lair just before the cave called "pride's end", no fight occured
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The clue for 2nd aspect is quite easy to find if you observe carefully. When you running up the hill path from the dalish group to the sundermount cave, slightly before reaching the cave entrance, there should be a small area of ruins with some broken walls, pillar. Search there and you should find it, right behind a broken / collapsed wall.

When you complete all 3 lair, the final 1 is just outside ander's clinic, where you access before while doing the birthright quest.

What slowmo effect you are referring to?

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 20 2011, 04:59 AM)
any of u suffered the slomo effect as mages once u get isabela's full frenship?
i did and im stopping where im playing now n wait for a patch
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what kind of slomo effect?
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Read in Bioware forum for more info. The bug is said to happen to any of the bonuses from your full relationship from your companions.

One of the example is isabela's full friendship bonus which add +5% attack speed.

When she is forced to leave your team like in storyline or when you go back to your house, the game deduct 5% from your attack speed.

So with isabela your atk speed raise from 0% to +5%. But then, each time isabela is forced to leave your team, your attack speed drop 5% permanently.

So some people gets like -50% attack speed.

The bug is said to happen with other companions such as magic resistance -50% or so.

Waiting for patch to fix the bug.
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QUOTE(Alviano @ Mar 20 2011, 12:46 PM)
Read in Bioware forum for more info.  The bug is said to happen to any of the bonuses from your full relationship from your companions.

One of the example is isabela's full friendship bonus which add +5% attack speed.

When she is forced to leave your team like in storyline or when you go back to your house, the game deduct 5% from your attack speed.

So with isabela your atk speed raise from 0% to +5%.  But then, each time isabela is forced to leave your team, your attack speed drop 5% permanently.

So some people gets like -50% attack speed.

The bug is said to happen with other companions such as magic resistance -50% or so.

Waiting for patch to fix the bug.
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That is just some minor bug which can be fixed easily using the DAO save editor. Just look for the animation speed modifier and damage resistance and set both value to 0 and it will be fix temporary, unless you keep moving isabella and sebastian in out of the active party list. Only both their friendly passive will cause this bug. If you had both their relationship to rivalry, then nothing will occur. Remember to unequipped all your gears and reequipped them after the reset, if any of your gears had bonus related to speed and damage resistance.

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oh shit i sexed isabella sad.gif so yeah i have her 5% buff. Hmm maybe i can bring her down to rivalry status instead to remove that?
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QUOTE(shojikun @ Mar 18 2011, 01:46 AM)
Bethany/Carver, Anders and Merill is the only people i know that change appearance.
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u may need to add another one to your list... biggrin.gif
here is one of my companion punyer appearance that not in your list...

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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 20 2011, 10:50 AM)
The clue for 2nd aspect is quite easy to find if you observe carefully. When you running up the hill path from the dalish group to the sundermount cave, slightly before reaching the cave entrance, there should be a small area of ruins with some broken walls, pillar. Search there and you should find it, right behind a broken / collapsed wall.

When you complete all 3 lair, the final 1 is just outside ander's clinic, where you access before while doing the birthright quest.

What slowmo effect you are referring to?
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 20 2011, 10:59 AM)
what kind of slomo effect?
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QUOTE(Alviano @ Mar 20 2011, 12:46 PM)
Read in Bioware forum for more info.  The bug is said to happen to any of the bonuses from your full relationship from your companions.

One of the example is isabela's full friendship bonus which add +5% attack speed.

When she is forced to leave your team like in storyline or when you go back to your house, the game deduct 5% from your attack speed.

So with isabela your atk speed raise from 0% to +5%.  But then, each time isabela is forced to leave your team, your attack speed drop 5% permanently.

So some people gets like -50% attack speed.

The bug is said to happen with other companions such as magic resistance -50% or so.

Waiting for patch to fix the bug.
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i not only get slow mo speed but also -50% damage resistance
sad.gif

as for the 2nd aspect quest, i went back and forth sundermount 5x and no battle
so i gave up and head straight to end game and my character just couldnt fight fast and killing the experience very fast
so i stopped playing till patched

Slow mo @ bioware forum yet to be fixed lah

and before u ask, its an original dragon age 2 bioware signature edition beli at tsb.com.my
haha

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 20 2011, 05:36 PM)
i not only get slow mo speed but also -50% damage resistance
sad.gif

as for the 2nd aspect quest, i went back and forth sundermount 5x and no battle
so i gave up and head straight to end game and my character just couldnt fight fast and killing the experience very fast
so i stopped playing till patched

Slow mo @ bioware forum yet to be fixed lah

and before u ask, its an original dragon age 2 bioware signature edition beli at tsb.com.my
haha
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Dude read my reply above la. It can be easily fix urself on the speed reduction and damage resistance by using save editor. Just change both back to default 0 and will be ok. As for 2nd aspect scroll, I take a screenshot for you. If you still cant find it, then I totally speechless. I still remember its location because I also having trouble finding it during my previous 1st play through. Found it during act 3

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As for the save editor, get it at the link below
Save Editon and GFF editor

By using the save game editor, you can rewrite your reduced speed and reduced damage resistance back to the default value which is 0. The new value will stay permanent, until you move isabella and sebastian in and out from your active party list. Because of the friendly buff of isabella +5% speed and +5% damage resistance from sebastian, each time when they are out from your party, you get -5% on each. So just manually correct the value by yourself before any patch on that is out, since its not that hard.

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hey it only works if isabela has joined your squad previously right? lucikly i didnt select her after obtaining her
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QUOTE(Darkz01 @ Mar 20 2011, 04:59 PM)
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them melons :-0

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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 20 2011, 07:53 PM)
hey it only works if isabela has joined your squad previously right? lucikly i didnt select her after obtaining her
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Well I not too sure if entering your own estate will trigger the bug or not, as it might be consider all characters leaving your party. Will update it later after I test it out.

Regarding the bug speed after I did a few re-test, before altering the animation speed modifier through save editor, make sure to unequipped all items which provide speed bonus, as well as speed buff if there any. Only by doing so the speed value will be correct after you reequip all the speed bonus items.

PS: Ok just tested and confirmed. As long isabella or cebestian isnt in your active party, they wont cause any stats debuff. Once you put either of them in your party, eg isabella and swap her out later, you will get 5% reduction in attack speed, and 5% damage resistance reduce if is sebastian. After tested out on the reset, it is confirm that isabella 5% attack speed buff wont be active for the champion, but only for herself only. I will assume the same for sebastian. So basically both of them is useless for now to have in the party. Only use them when needed, eg their personal quests, and do a reset on attack speed and damage resistance after swapping them out and you can play normally.

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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 20 2011, 07:22 PM)
Dude read my reply above la. It can be easily fix urself on the speed reduction and damage resistance by using save editor. Just change both back to default 0 and will be ok. As for 2nd aspect scroll, I take a screenshot for you. If you still cant find it, then I totally speechless. I still remember its location because I also having trouble finding it during my previous 1st play through. Found it during act 3

user posted image

user posted image

As for the save editor, get it at the link below
Save Editon and GFF editor

By using the save game editor, you can rewrite your reduced speed and reduced damage resistance back to the default value which is 0. The new value will stay permanent, until you move isabella and sebastian in and out from your active party list. Because of the friendly buff of isabella +5% speed and +5% damage resistance from sebastian, each time when they are out from your party, you get -5% on each. So just manually correct the value by yourself before any patch on that is out, since its not that hard.
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will test them when i have time
while i have both of their buffs i never bring them anywhere in my party
haha
thanks man
as for the second aspect scroll, i remember looking all over at sundermount and i press tab all the time when i walk anywhere
did not see anything popping up
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but its okay
i'll replay after winning the game and give it another play through as a bloodmage



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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 21 2011, 12:02 AM)
will test them when i have time
while i have both of their buffs i never bring them anywhere in my party
haha
thanks man
as for the second aspect scroll, i remember looking all over at sundermount and i press tab all the time when i walk anywhere
did not see anything popping up
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but its okay
i'll replay after winning the game and give it another play through as a bloodmage
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Try use auto tab and auto run mod, then u wont need to hold the key like crazy. After you alter back from the negative buff effect, you wont be having those slow motion problem. Just restrain to bring those 2 out to party unless needed for their personal quests so you wont have to alter save files that often. You can also alter the char running speed if you know how smile.gif

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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 21 2011, 12:26 AM)
Try use auto tab and auto run mod, then u wont need to hold the key like crazy. After you alter back from the negative buff effect, you wont be having those slow motion problem. Just restrain to bring those 2 out to party unless needed for their personal quests so you wont have to alter save files that often. You can also alter the char running speed if you know how smile.gif
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hey man
im using the gff editor and loaded my savegame.das
where's the character stats in the list eh?
i thought its under the playerchar but where's the relevant list needs changing?
as in the damage resistance, animation speed etc etc
i think i can assume which one is my strength and others etc

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 21 2011, 12:48 AM)
hey man
im using the gff editor and loaded my savegame.das
where's the character stats in the list eh?
i thought its under the playerchar but where's the relevant list needs changing?
as in the damage resistance etc
i think i can assume which one is my strength and others etc
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Not the gff editor. You need to use the dao save game editor to open your save file. Then you should able to see inventory and party tree on your left. Expand the party tree and choose the 1st option which is your char's name. Look for the value name animation_speed_modifier and damage_resistance. You will will negative value on both. Change both to 0 which is default in the modifier column. Make sure to unequipped items that has bonus to attack speed and physical resistance, as well as any buff that trigger both. After change the value and save it to your save game file. Restart your game and reequipped your char and you wont see any slow motion anymore
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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 21 2011, 12:59 AM)
Not the gff editor. You need to use the dao save game editor to open your save file. Then you should able to see inventory and party tree on your left. Expand the party tree and choose the 1st option which is your char's name. Look for the value name animation_speed_modifier and damage_resistance. You will will negative value on both. Change both to 0 which is default in the modifier column. Make sure to unequipped items that has bonus to attack speed and physical resistance, as well as any buff that trigger both. After change the value and save it to your save game file. Restart your game and reequipped your char and you wont see any slow motion anymore
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thanks man


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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 21 2011, 01:12 AM)
thanks man
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No problem smile.gif
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Since this is the spoiler edition thread so i'll say this but it's more of a bug i encountered. In Act 3, when i have quests to talk to my companions, i went to talk to merrill and and i spoke to her and it seems the conversation leads to the death of the Keeper but i have not gone through anything that shows the keeper died. Wonder anyone has gotten the same thing before.
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QUOTE(SilverCrimz @ Mar 21 2011, 01:40 PM)
Since this is the spoiler edition thread so i'll say this but it's more of a bug i encountered. In Act 3, when i have quests to talk to my companions, i went to talk to merrill and and i spoke to her and it seems the conversation leads to the death of the Keeper but i have not gone through anything that shows the keeper died. Wonder anyone has gotten the same thing before.
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u didnt do the quest where u kill the keeper?
funny that it happens but anything can happen in DA2
good game messed up with tons of unsolved glitches and bugs

im on my 2nd playthrough as male rouge
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QUOTE(SilverCrimz @ Mar 21 2011, 01:40 PM)
Since this is the spoiler edition thread so i'll say this but it's more of a bug i encountered. In Act 3, when i have quests to talk to my companions, i went to talk to merrill and and i spoke to her and it seems the conversation leads to the death of the Keeper but i have not gone through anything that shows the keeper died. Wonder anyone has gotten the same thing before.
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That a known bug with the conversation. It will happen once you go to merill's house in act 3 even before you start her personal quest.
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why u all got many glitches but i never encounter any...
i must be lucky then...
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act 3 aveline's quest "Favor and Fault", anyobdy got the loot to complete Aveline's armor?
i read that it was supposed to be dropped by Javen but i have killed him 10 times and still havent got it...
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QUOTE(MaxSteR88 @ Mar 21 2011, 06:04 PM)
act 3 aveline's quest "Favor and Fault", anyobdy got the loot to complete Aveline's armor?
i read that it was supposed to be dropped by Javen but i have killed him 10 times and still havent got it...
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Well that was another bug, but not big deal thou. Just lack the final upgrade only which might be an extra rune slot. My varric also didnt manage to complete upgrade as I didnt use any old doa save and started with a different history background.
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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 21 2011, 12:26 AM)
Try use auto tab and auto run mod, then u wont need to hold the key like crazy. After you alter back from the negative buff effect, you wont be having those slow motion problem. Just restrain to bring those 2 out to party unless needed for their personal quests so you wont have to alter save files that often. You can also alter the char running speed if you know how smile.gif
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can tell me how to auto tab and run faster? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Darkz01 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:49 PM)
why u all got many glitches but i never encounter any...
i must be lucky then...
ahha...
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Did you managed to finish the Who Needs Rescuing quest? I see the amount of people not being able to get that quest done by a lot tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 21 2011, 07:58 PM)
can tell me how to auto tab and run faster?  biggrin.gif
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go to this link: autorun n tab highlight

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Hmm, wonder if it's going to be worth to have a second run through. Think I'm going to wait for an expansion or something first.

The story sounds so familiar...Soul Calibur anyone? So, the Warden & Champion are going to unite for DA3? Maybe with Morrigan's child as the protagonist?
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 21 2011, 07:58 PM)
can tell me how to auto tab and run faster?  biggrin.gif
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Download both the attachment below. Extract both the files. To enable auto tab and auto run, run the .exe file. Start your game and set your secondary forward key to T. Press tab and T in game to toggle on off for auto tab and auto run

As for the running speed, put the apr_base.gda file in your My Documents\BioWare\Dragon Age 2\packages\core\override folder. You can edit the file using gdapp to change the speed to your likings. The default running speed is 6 and I set it to 8 for my champion for faster travel around. You can set for your companions as well if you want to. Just look for the value game_runspeed and edit it yourself
Attached File  T_key_autorun_tab_toggle.7z ( 290.45k ) Number of downloads: 13

Attached File  apr_base.7z ( 7.46k ) Number of downloads: 22

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Did you managed to finish the Who Needs Rescuing quest? I see the amount of people not being able to get that quest done by a lot tongue.gif
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coz i didnt see that quest in my journal...
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"Who needs rescuing" is a bug...google it. If you've gone to the coast and got attacked, you've done it.
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i romanced merrill while maintaining a high relationship level with Isabela, ends up theres both of em Merrill and Isabela in my estate with exclamation mark on Isabela's head but i was unable to do shit... funnay
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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 21 2011, 09:28 PM)
Download both the attachment below. Extract both the files. To enable auto tab and auto run, run the .exe file. Start your game and set your secondary forward key to T. Press tab and T in game to toggle on off for auto tab and auto run

As for the running speed, put the apr_base.gda file in your My Documents\BioWare\Dragon Age 2\packages\core\override folder. You can edit the file using gdapp to change the speed to your likings. The default running speed is 6 and I set it to 8 for my champion for faster travel around. You can set for your companions as well if you want to. Just look for the value game_runspeed and edit it yourself
Attached File  T_key_autorun_tab_toggle.7z ( 290.45k ) Number of downloads: 13

Attached File  apr_base.7z ( 7.46k ) Number of downloads: 22

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i opened the file with gdapp but where is the running speed?

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i opened the file with gdapp but where is the running speed?
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Its on the 1st row, where you need to scroll right quite a bit. Search for the value named game_runspeed. The 1st 4 value is for the main char speed. If you want to edit companion speed as well, just scroll down and look for each of them

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QUOTE(Yue @ Mar 22 2011, 12:59 AM)
i romanced merrill while maintaining a high relationship level with Isabela, ends up theres both of em Merrill and Isabela in my estate with exclamation mark on Isabela's head but i was unable to do shit... funnay
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Huh I thought her exclamation mark is for the Qunari relic quest hmm.gif
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DA2 got leliana or not.....she damn pretty leh ~! drool.gif
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DA2 got leliana or not.....she damn pretty leh ~! drool.gif
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DA2 got leliana or not.....she damn pretty leh ~! drool.gif
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what do u think??
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Just discover another bug. Becareful while doing the quest act of mercy in nightmare mode, as I accidentally kill the templar Ser Thrask with my warrior while aoe other hostile templars. When all templars dead, the mage Grace will be out from the cave and the quest will be stuck, where no npc to interact in order to complete it sweat.gif

Now I wondering if I dont bother bout it and continue on, will Thrask be revive as walking undead to start the rebellion in act 3 biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 22 2011, 06:32 PM)
Just discover another bug. Becareful while doing the quest act of mercy in nightmare mode, as I accidentally kill the templar Ser Thrask with my warrior while aoe other hostile templars. When all templars dead, the mage Grace will be out from the cave and the quest will be stuck, where no npc to interact in order to complete it  sweat.gif

Now I wondering if I dont bother bout it and continue on, will Thrask be revive as walking undead to start the rebellion in act 3 biggrin.gif
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press F9 lol
the auto save is damm useful, save me ALOT of headache


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Do i have to finish all quest to continue the journey wif bartrand? Its my first play i just wanna skip all 2ndary quest n play the main quest to see the storyline. He keep asking me finish do business
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you must have 50 sovereigns...
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you must have 50 sovereigns...
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yai alreadyhaf. Bring varric to him then give him 50 gold n the map. Then he say willl be gone few weeks ask me finish business first
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Mar 22 2011, 08:37 PM)
press F9 lol
the auto save is damm useful, save me ALOT of headache
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Definitely I know the usage of quick save and load la sweat.gif Just to warn others only and I even save a progress with Thrask dead purposely so maybe can try it out if it will bug act 3 in the future biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 22 2011, 08:43 PM)
Do i have to finish all quest to continue the journey wif bartrand? Its my first play i just wanna skip all 2ndary quest n play the main quest to see the storyline. He keep asking me finish do business
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Well you can skip as many sub quests as you like, but you wont be able to do them again once you got into the deep road. So you lose things like exp, gold and relation points only since after deep road, you will start in act 2 already.

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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 22 2011, 09:12 PM)
Definitely I know the usage of quick save and load la sweat.gif Just to warn others only and I even save a progress with Thrask dead purposely so maybe can try it out if it will bug act 3 in the future biggrin.gif


Added on March 22, 2011, 9:14 pm
Well you can skip as many sub quests as you like, but you wont be able to do them again once you got into the deep road. So you lose things like exp, gold and relation points only since after deep road, you will start in act 2 already.
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i just wanna get through the story then 2nd play only play in detail tongue.gif
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maybe you already start some of the quest but still not finish it yet..
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argh the Favor and Fault is a bug...bummer...
have to wait for patch then to get Aveline's last armor upgrade...zzz
anyone Dragon Age Legends...lol...
btw for rogue in DA2, is the weapon during the start of the game where we saw Hawke in full gear, Finnese and Spider's Heart is it?
if so the the Carta right and left hand is better...zzz...

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QUOTE(faizdtk @ Mar 22 2011, 09:25 PM)
maybe you already start some of the quest but still not finish it yet..
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idiot. you're turned on by a video game character?  shakehead.gif
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what do u think??
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where?

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QUOTE(MaxSteR88 @ Mar 22 2011, 09:28 PM)
argh the Favor and Fault is a bug...bummer...
have to wait for patch then to get Aveline's last armor upgrade...zzz
anyone Dragon Age Legends...lol...
btw for rogue in DA2, is the weapon during the start of the game where we saw Hawke in full gear, Finnese and Spider's Heart is it?
if so the the Carta right and left hand is better...zzz...
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No the starting weapon for rogue is call champion's edge, which only had 27 physical damage by default with no restriction. The shape is very similar to finesse but slight difference to spider's heart. I prefer 2 element daggers over the 2 carta.
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@sniperwolf: owh really...maybe cuz of the 27 dmg i didnt pay attention to that weapon...lol...
and towards the end finesse was the only weapon i found similar to the weapon the champion used... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(vendetta87 @ Mar 22 2011, 04:36 PM)
DA2 got leliana or not.....she damn pretty leh ~! drool.gif
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dont worry mate, she got my attention too smile.gif too sexay~!

QUOTE(archonixm @ Mar 22 2011, 09:40 PM)

where?
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as npc seen together with cassandra as chantry seeker
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QUOTE(MaxSteR88 @ Mar 22 2011, 11:24 PM)
@sniperwolf: owh really...maybe cuz of the 27 dmg i didnt pay attention to that weapon...lol...
and towards the end finesse was the only weapon i found similar to the weapon the champion used... tongue.gif
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You wont be able to find the champion's edge unless you know how to mod. That pair of daggers literally not existed in the game beside the opening part. Even a mage can dual wield with that pair of daggers. As for damage concern, can always mod the dagger with the feature improve with level up, as well as adding other bonus to it.

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QUOTE(ati radeon @ Mar 23 2011, 12:11 AM)
as npc seen together with cassandra as chantry seeker
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And as Sister Nightingale in Sebastian's quest in act 2.
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weird.. and strange when i listen to people who have bugs, never encounter them.
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Anyone else strangely liking Merrill like I do? She irritated me at first but started to grow on me. Well I guess her inability to die during battles is a big plus too.


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just finished the whole game, i guess got a sequel coming, maybe a DLC? that red hair at the end of the game is tempting. btw she reminds me of someone from DA1.

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QUOTE(woopypooky @ Mar 25 2011, 10:24 PM)
just finished the whole game, i guess got a sequel coming, maybe a DLC? that red hair at the end of the game is tempting. btw she reminds me of someone from DA1.

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I finished the game but i dont even know wat happen... how come feel like the game din finish yet?
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 26 2011, 02:15 AM)
I finished the game but i dont even know wat happen... how come feel like the game din finish yet?
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Because it just finish a small portion only, the tales of the champion of kirkwall.

My testing dual wield 2h sword

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i kinda disappointed with the game . The graphic and game mechanic is alright but the storyline is weak. I love dragon age origins in-game conversation especially between Alistair and Morrigan .
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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 26 2011, 02:56 AM)
Because it just finish a small portion only, the tales of the champion of kirkwall.

My testing dual wield 2h sword

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Then how to play the full portion of game?

Yeah the storyline is weak but the game design is good. I think they put too much effort into the game design then neglecting the story. If they would release the game later and put some time making better storyline will be more worth money.
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QUOTE(woopypooky @ Mar 25 2011, 10:24 PM)

I sided with the mage, and wtf fenriss betray me!

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If you help him kill Denarius and bodek him throughout the whole game he will still gang with u haha. I maxed out Fenriss' rivalry threshold by constantly siding myself with apostates.

Fenriss helping you liberate mages from the tyranny of the templars, who would've thought!


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I finished the game but i dont even know wat happen... how come feel like the game din finish yet?
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Because there will be Dragon Age 3!. Time to pay another RM 139 to find out what happens next haha.

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Mar 27 2011, 12:15 AM)

Because there will be Dragon Age 3!. Time to pay another RM 139 to find out what happens next haha.
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First, there will be 10 or so DLCs to be released to conclude the stories in DA2 (probably not). Then comes Dragon Age 3.


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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 22 2011, 02:02 AM)
Its on the 1st row, where you need to scroll right quite a bit. Search for the value named game_runspeed. The 1st 4 value is for the main char speed. If you want to edit companion speed as well, just scroll down and look for each of them
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i cant find this. open the file with the editor.exe?
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 27 2011, 02:50 PM)
i cant find this. open the file with the editor.exe?
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Open it with gdapp. Go download it if you havent. If you open the apr_base.gda file with gff editor, then you need to edit as below.

1. Expand G2DA_ROW_LIST
2. The 1st 4 rows which is 0-3 is the 1 you need to edit.
3. Expand 0
4. Look for G2DA_COLUMN_34, the float point value there should be 8.0 if you download the gda file which I upload. This is the value for changing run speed. Default is 6.0. If you want 50% faster running speed, set it to 9.
5. Do the same for the next 3 rows which is 1-3 and save.
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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 27 2011, 04:30 PM)
Open it with gdapp. Go download it if you havent. If you open the apr_base.gda file with gff editor, then you need to edit as below.

1. Expand G2DA_ROW_LIST
2. The 1st 4 rows which is 0-3 is the 1 you need to edit.
3. Expand 0
4. Look for G2DA_COLUMN_34, the float point value there should be 8.0 if you download the gda file which I upload. This is the value for changing run speed. Default is 6.0. If you want 50% faster running speed, set it to 9.
5. Do the same for the next 3 rows which is 1-3 and save.
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does anybody here have a problem with anders questioning beliefs quests? There's an arrow on his head when we go to his clinic but i cant talk to him. He just says trust me or something. I did some main quests as well like best served cold
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ZOMG Two handed weapon + Cleave + Fervor + Haste + Berserker speed ability = dead anything. Even defeated that Evil Tome fight without much difficulty thanks to my speed and scythe ability


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QUOTE(Dr Jan Itor @ Mar 27 2011, 06:16 PM)
ZOMG Two handed weapon + Cleave + Fervor + Haste + Berserker speed ability = dead anything. Even defeated that Evil Tome fight without much difficulty thanks to my speed and scythe ability
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yup. in DAO dual wield/shield&sword >>2-H but in DA2 2-H is the best for warriors
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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Mar 27 2011, 12:15 AM)
If you help him kill Denarius and bodek him throughout the whole game he will still gang with u haha. I maxed out Fenriss' rivalry threshold by constantly siding myself with apostates.

Fenriss helping you liberate mages from the tyranny of the templars, who would've thought!
Because there will be Dragon Age 3!. Time to pay another RM 139 to find out what happens next haha.
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I din give a shit about Fenris, just help him go Denarius mansion then Denarius not there. AT first he join Meredith then the end i ask him join me then he just join.

I use girl mage now, izzit aveline lesbian? Got the love talk 1. I tot she miss her husband or love donnic 1
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QUOTE(Dr Jan Itor @ Mar 27 2011, 06:16 PM)
ZOMG Two handed weapon + Cleave + Fervor + Haste + Berserker speed ability = dead anything. Even defeated that Evil Tome fight without much difficulty thanks to my speed and scythe ability
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Only fast enough to kill elites type but not true bosses. Tougher bosses like high dragon and Varterral will always knock you down often enough to interrupt it. And always need to beware of the party members as 2h sword can easily friendly fire, unless you play in other mode beside nightmare.
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Just finished the game yesterday...slow story built up and meh ending...waiting for witcher 2 next...after the end it seems like I kena home prisoner...cannot go outside except to Black Emporium hohoho...and my Merril seems no where to be found in my house....
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Just stopped at the 7 year mark, after Hawke is proclaimed the Champion of Kirkwall for defeating Arishok.

The game has a few good set pieces, some are emotionally engaging, made me cry (e.g. when leandra died) but the way those set pieces are tied into the story is pretty mediocre at best.
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In the end I romanced Merrill, even though she is unattractive and annoyingly obsessed with that mirror

Both female romance options really cause lots of problems in the DA world laugh.gif then again Leliana and Morrigan were bona fide weirdos too
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i prtefer morrigan and isabella tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Mar 28 2011, 02:22 PM)
In the end I romanced Merrill, even though she is unattractive and annoyingly obsessed with that mirror 

Both female romance options really cause lots of problems in the DA world laugh.gif then again Leliana and Morrigan were bona fide weirdos too
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well at least leliana and morrigan did not cause the deaths of so many people.

merrill = 1 keeper die or whole dalish clan die.
isabella = caused qunari to attack kirkwall, many people die

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 28 2011, 04:02 PM)
well at least leliana and morrigan did not cause the deaths of so many people.

merrill = 1 keeper die or whole dalish clan die.
isabella = caused qunari to attack kirkwall, many people die
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Eh,ur diff with me..

merrill = 1keeper and whole dalish clan die lulz sweat.gif 5-10 times retry damn hard doh.gif
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QUOTE(gempakstarz @ Mar 28 2011, 04:07 PM)
Eh,ur diff with me..

merrill = 1keeper and whole dalish clan die lulz  sweat.gif 5-10 times retry damn hard  doh.gif
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lulz you hate elves that much ke lulz you seems to enjoice at the opportunity to butcher them all.
if you reply "i (hawke) will take responsibility" etc then no kill them them all liao.

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 28 2011, 04:21 PM)
lulz you hate elves that much ke lulz you seems to enjoice at the opportunity to butcher them all.
if you reply "i (hawke) will take responsibility" etc then no kill them them all liao.
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Haha i reply i want protect merril something like that la..then kill all dalish doh.gif so hard liao.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Mar 28 2011, 01:38 PM)
Just stopped at the 7 year mark, after Hawke is proclaimed the Champion of Kirkwall for defeating Arishok.

The game has a few good set pieces, some are emotionally engaging, made me cry (e.g. when leandra died) but the way those set pieces are tied into the story is pretty mediocre at best.
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did u solo arishok btw?

i tried solo with my warrior.... seems cant win, he deal more dmg, i gotta run like monkey wait for my potion cool down then I see the worst, he also can drink potion......!@#$ then i gotta be that ***** which didnt accept the duel
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Mar 28 2011, 05:00 PM)
did u solo arishok btw?

i tried solo with my warrior.... seems cant win, he deal more dmg, i gotta run like monkey wait for my potion cool down then I see the worst, he also can drink potion......!@#$ then i gotta be that ***** which didnt accept the duel
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haha yea me too, i was like;

"OK GREAT 20% more!" * Arishok drank Potion, back to 50% *

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but it only happen twice and i was like.. very limited potion.. i mostly hit & run when possible.. xD took me almost 45 minutes of fight xD
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QUOTE(shojikun @ Mar 28 2011, 05:04 PM)
haha yea me too, i was like;

"OK GREAT 20% more!" * Arishok drank Potion, back to 50% *

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but it only happen twice and i was like.. very limited potion.. i mostly hit & run when possible.. xD took me almost 45 minutes of fight xD
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WOW so hard leh..I just give isabella to them biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gempakstarz @ Mar 28 2011, 05:11 PM)
WOW so hard leh..I just give isabella to them  biggrin.gif
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whatttt?? O_O xD i would never give away such a sexy lady to them! xD
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QUOTE(shojikun @ Mar 28 2011, 05:15 PM)
whatttt?? O_O xD i would never give away such a sexy lady to them! xD
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Haha u already had a sex with her..then throw it away la..
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QUOTE(gempakstarz @ Mar 28 2011, 05:11 PM)
WOW so hard leh..I just give isabella to them  biggrin.gif
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so the arishok just take isabella and leave peacefully?

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so the arishok just take isabella and leave peacefully?
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Yup..then u become a champion lulz..eh,so u fight arishok?
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i refuse to giv isabella and duel so i go attack in party instead~
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QUOTE(gempakstarz @ Mar 28 2011, 05:24 PM)
Yup..then u become a champion lulz..eh,so u fight arishok?
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yes i gang bang arishok since that b1tch never came back.
for the first time i dueled the arishok then died then load game then duel again then win.

then i was wondering where is isabella.

then i load game, then i realize she is not coming back.
so i gang bang the arishok.

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i refuse to giv isabella and duel so i go attack in party instead~
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So can be with party or 1vs1 right?
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QUOTE(gempakstarz @ Mar 28 2011, 05:34 PM)
So can be with party or 1vs1 right?
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duel is hard, like the post above said, he took 45min.... =.= run like monkey then hit and run
faster if take him out by party, kacang aje~

I thought she leave with that book for good, since she come back, so i protect her
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Mar 28 2011, 05:39 PM)
duel is hard, like the post above said, he took 45min.... =.= run like monkey then hit and run
faster if take him out by party, kacang aje~

I thought she leave with that book for good, since she come back, so i protect her
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Then i choose a wrong answer la doh.gif

1st time i choose 1vs1..so hard..then load again and choose give away isabella cry.gif
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QUOTE(gempakstarz @ Mar 28 2011, 05:47 PM)
Then i choose a wrong answer la  doh.gif

1st time i choose 1vs1..so hard..then load again and choose give away isabella  cry.gif
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... You can choose to refuse the duel, then your entire party will be engaged in the battle. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 28 2011, 05:34 PM)
yes i gang bang arishok since that b1tch never came back.
for the first time i dueled the arishok then died then load game then duel again then win.

then i was wondering where is isabella.

then i load game, then i realize she is not coming back.
so i gang bang the arishok.
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in order to get Isabella is to tell her to come back and give back the book. She will come back with the book.
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QUOTE(shojikun @ Mar 28 2011, 07:16 PM)
in order to get Isabella is to tell her to come back and give back the book. She will come back with the book.
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how to tell her to come back and give back the book? she left a note then dunno go where liao?
dun tell me can find her in the hang man?

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how to tell her to come back and give back the book? she left a note then dunno go where liao?
dun tell me can find her in the hang man?
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Haha..dunno where she go lulz..but later she will come back with the book..and u can choose to give her or protect her..
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QUOTE(gempakstarz @ Mar 28 2011, 07:35 PM)
Haha..dunno where she go lulz..but later she will come back with the book..and u can choose to give her or protect her..
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not always come back one lar.
must friend or rival enough if not she no come back.
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 28 2011, 07:37 PM)
not always come back one lar.
must friend or rival enough if not she no come back.
b1tchhhhhhhhh
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So u make she a rival??
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 28 2011, 07:37 PM)
not always come back one lar.
must friend or rival enough if not she no come back.
b1tchhhhhhhhh
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Ya must have more friendship on her, then when during the final act 2 will got option to influence her to come back or get lost.. haha.

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I never get fenrir btw... he look gay. oh wait he is gay.
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@deimos isabela will appear with the book during the arishok battle.. then later you can find her in the hanged man again. But i wanted to kill her because she caused me many problems with that attack speed bug
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QUOTE(gempakstarz @ Mar 28 2011, 07:57 PM)
So u make she a rival??
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no lar. i was fwen with her, maybe i kelik one lass love icon, so not enuf intimacy perhaps.

QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 28 2011, 08:43 PM)
@deimos isabela will appear with the book during the arishok battle.. then later you can find her in the hanged man again. But i wanted to kill her because she caused me many problems with that attack speed bug
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she never came back. that b1tch!

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so if gang wif isabella she will run away eventually? like dat dun1 waste my time gang her liao
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 28 2011, 09:35 PM)
so if gang wif isabella she will run away eventually? like dat dun1 waste my time gang her liao
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Uh it depends on your friendship level with her
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k thnx.. then i make her my bestfren fast fast
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Get her the ship gift thing instant +20 friendship points. Free/ give slave a job during Fenris' quest and you can rank up easy friendship points for Isabella
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Not sure if any of you having or encounter this bug before. I recently just start a mage and she around lvl9 now. I had skip both the spell elemental weapon and arcane shield, but I notice even after I had unlearn those 2 spell with maker sigh, they will automatic relearned without me noticing it, even when I had no skill points left. When I reset again using maker sigh, I will gain extra 2 skill points from it. If keep repeating, the skill points will keep increasing sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Mar 28 2011, 05:34 PM)
yes i gang bang arishok since that b1tch never came back.
for the first time i dueled the arishok then died then load game then duel again then win.

then i was wondering where is isabella.

then i load game, then i realize she is not coming back.
so i gang bang the arishok.
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eh?
the duel with arishok kacang aje
use mage
horror lv2 + crushing prison lv2

3 - 5 minutes dah ko sudah

senang aje


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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 30 2011, 12:27 AM)
Not sure if any of you having or encounter this bug before. I recently just start a mage and she around lvl9 now. I had skip both the spell elemental weapon and arcane shield, but I notice even after I had unlearn those 2 spell with maker sigh, they will automatic relearned without me noticing it, even when I had no skill points left. When I reset again using maker sigh, I will gain extra 2 skill points from it. If keep repeating, the skill points will keep increasing sweat.gif
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yup its a known bug.. there's a page on this @dragonage wiki

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Maker%27s_Sigh
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QUOTE(Sethmaster @ Mar 30 2011, 02:08 PM)
eh?
the duel with arishok kacang aje
use mage
horror lv2 + crushing prison lv2

3 - 5 minutes dah ko sudah

senang aje
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How about rogue?warrior?
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 30 2011, 06:05 PM)
yup its a known bug.. there's a page on this @dragonage wiki

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Maker%27s_Sigh
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I see didnt know bout that as had no problem with it with my rogue and warrior


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QUOTE(gempakstarz @ Mar 30 2011, 06:11 PM)
How about rogue?warrior?
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My rogue in hard mode, I think the arishok bit bugged. As after I create a replica for him to attack, he will like stucked for awhile even though my replica being destory. But still need to take sometime to take it down as he keep drinking potions for 3 to 4 times when his hp drop till around 40%. Warrior no idea as I choose the other options with my warrior in nightmare mode, which is party fight. I think that should be better and offer more exp.

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finished the game, honestly, I think that most of your companions sux, characteristic wise, except for varric, lol.

Now strating a second playthrough with female rogue Hawke tongue.gif
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QUOTE(THEswordmaster @ Mar 31 2011, 12:07 PM)
finished the game, honestly, I think that most of your companions sux, characteristic wise, except for varric, lol.

Now strating a second playthrough with female rogue Hawke tongue.gif
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kinda agree.
varric is awesome.



friendly - one of these days, varric will tell your story.
rivalry - one of these days, varric will tell your story. whether you like it or not.


i lulz at this. "whether you like it or not" hahaha

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God Tier Companions :
Varric
Merrill

Good Tier Companions :
Aveline
Dog

Ok Tier :
Isabella
Bethany

Shit Tier :
Anders
Fenris
Sebastien


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i never once used sebastien and fenris except on companion quests
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 31 2011, 09:36 PM)
i never once used sebastien and fenris except on companion quests
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Fenris would be useful if you're playing an offensive mage with Chain Lightning. He staggers foes easily thus enabling you to deal more damage. Luckily I'm playing a warrior and as a result my party is Two handed weapon warrior Hawke which acts as the main damage dealer and the main crowd controller, Anders as the healer, Merrill as the secondary damage dealer and the chain lightning combo, Varric for traps, damage and opening chests.


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being a MMO tard i tend to pick a tank, a healer and two dps. finish my first play-through as mage, being a healer with Aveline as tank, Merrill as Damage dealer and Isabela as the melee dps.

i just sit back and heal, the party kill High Dragon in like 2 minutes, LIKE A BOSS.
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QUOTE(Yue @ Mar 31 2011, 10:56 PM)
being a MMO tard i tend to pick a tank, a healer and two dps. finish my first play-through as mage, being a healer with Aveline as tank, Merrill as Damage dealer and Isabela as the melee dps.

i just sit back and heal, the party kill High Dragon in like 2 minutes, LIKE A BOSS.
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Varric can out damage Isabella easily tongue.gif

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imma mage myself.. Force mage + spirit healer. aveline, varric, and the last companion can alternate. i was hoping to get a qunari companion. that would have been cool
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QUOTE(Dr Jan Itor @ Mar 31 2011, 08:32 PM)
God Tier Companions :
Varric
Merrill

Good Tier Companions :
Aveline
Dog

Ok Tier :
Isabella
Bethany

Shit Tier :
Anders
Fenris
Sebastien
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Y when my companions is Merril she so weak?what build u do for her?
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QUOTE(gempakstarz @ Apr 1 2011, 11:28 AM)
Y when my companions is Merril she so weak?what build u do for her?
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Make her a tank ignore willpower and go for Magic and constitution. Get her own unique tree maxed, the most important ability is the blood of the first which will then fully utilize her hp as blood magic. Also get the wrath of the elvhen and its upgrade which helps merrill heal more thus making her even tougher.

Get the staff called Voracity which can be obtained when you defeat the boss of the evil tome quest. Voracity helps with blood magic, also get those trinkets, which help with blood magic.

Also upgrade chain lightning, and rock armor for more damage and defense. Get Misdirection Hex and its upgrade which helps a lot when you're fighting bosses and of cos horror which is always useful. Get Crushing prison and its upgrade for more damage and to exploit the staggered situation of the enemies.

set the tactics to something like this

Self (Any) - Use Blood of the First
Self ( HP < 50%) - Deactivate Blood of the first
Self(Any) - Activate Rock Armor
Self(Any) - Activate Wrath of the Elvhen
Self(Any) - Activate elemental weapons
Enemy (Status - STAGGERED) - Use chain lightning


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yup merill is more of a nuke mage. just give her enough constitution to help with blood magic
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Well its always personal taste of which member you like to have in your party smile.gif In DA2 I dont actually find healer is needed, as cool down for healing spells are quite long in my opinion, unless you go tweak the settings for it, which I dont prefer to. I find potions more useful most of the time. As for fragility, I would give my vote to isabela, as she tends to die easily on me. A back stab from enemy rogues can easily kill her with full hp. Even mages are tougher in the game with the skill rock armor.

Just start another warrior recently, playing as tank. Only found out that tank can do charge attack while shield defense is being deactivated. Kinda addicted to my frostmourne and shield biggrin.gif
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Its a pity I can't play as a dwarf. Would have loved to be a 2 handed axe bearing dwarf. And my axe.............!!!!
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QUOTE(Dr Jan Itor @ Apr 1 2011, 09:19 PM)
Its a pity I can't play as a dwarf. Would have loved to be a 2 handed axe bearing dwarf. And my axe.............!!!!
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You can always play as any race, even the arishok. Just need be modding only. But I not really into modding companions
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Is it just me or is the revenant easier than origins ?
I feel that I struggled more on revenants in origins than in da2
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QUOTE(Nosferatu @ Apr 2 2011, 12:20 PM)
Is it just me or is the revenant easier than origins ?
I feel that I struggled more on revenants in origins than in da2
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man those revenants for totally farked up for me in da1. Because i did the dalish mission first. So i was like level 6-7 fighting those revenants for the juggernaut armor set doh.gif
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Im playing mage and cos 1st play I already use nuke mage partner so now 2nd play I try something different. Also in hard mode but I feel it should be hard.

SOmehow my mage kinda suck. Is it mage not nuke will become suck liao? I choose the spirit skill and now level 8 but my mage always do nothing in combat. Just shoot shoot wif the staff.
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Apr 2 2011, 03:45 PM)
Im playing mage and cos 1st play I already use nuke mage partner so now 2nd play I try something different. Also in hard mode but I feel it should be hard.

SOmehow my mage kinda suck. Is it mage not nuke will become suck liao? I choose the spirit skill and now level 8 but my mage always do nothing in combat. Just shoot shoot wif the staff.
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walao lu englund dem powdeful i kenot brain mang tongue.gif

Yeah i get what you mean. Your mage has the disabling kind of skills. Its weak in the beginning but once you level up the entropy skills and spirit skills it will become powerful. It will even be better then nuke mages later on. Nukes are basically useful for taking out hordes in the beginning but as you progress you can just let the rogues and warriors cut them down. So they lose their effectiveness but the disables are useful for higher level bosses and elites
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Apr 2 2011, 03:45 PM)
Im playing mage and cos 1st play I already use nuke mage partner so now 2nd play I try something different. Also in hard mode but I feel it should be hard.

SOmehow my mage kinda suck. Is it mage not nuke will become suck liao? I choose the spirit skill and now level 8 but my mage always do nothing in combat. Just shoot shoot wif the staff.
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That is 1 of reason I stop my mage at around lvl11 and start a tank, seems bit boring with not much action. For my mages I usually choose the lightning tree and some support skills. But honestly go play nightmare, more challenges as you wont able just throwing any nuke spell or go aoe everywhere as you like. Monsters also has better element immunity as well. Example qunari types will get no damage from fire and lightning.
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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Apr 2 2011, 07:02 PM)
That is 1 of reason I stop my mage at around lvl11 and start a tank, seems bit boring with not much action. For my mages I usually choose the lightning tree and some support skills. But honestly go play nightmare, more challenges as you wont able just throwing any nuke spell or go aoe  everywhere as you like. Monsters also has better element immunity as well. Example qunari types will get no damage from fire and lightning.
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yup its the 2nd act and im already bored with my mage. Its very different from DAO where playing as AW and BM combo was the most fun class
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Apr 2 2011, 09:07 PM)
yup its the 2nd act and im already bored with my mage. Its very different from DAO where playing as AW and BM combo was the most fun class
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dao and da2 i play tank biggrin.gif
its the satisfying sound of a large steel plate meeting the enemies face - "KLANK!"
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QUOTE(Nosferatu @ Apr 2 2011, 11:23 PM)
dao and da2 i play tank biggrin.gif
its the satisfying sound of a large steel plate meeting the enemies face - "KLANK!"
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Tank in da2 is less skill dependant as compare to dao. From what I remember with alistair in dao, I had to have quite some sustain buff on in order to keep him alive. Unlike my current tank hawke, which I barely even on shield defense throughout act 1 even in nightmare mode. To me she more like a warrior carrying shield and sword than a tank, as 1h sword also has some minor aoe feature from what I noticed.

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Tank in da2 is less skill dependant as compare to dao. From what I remember with alistair in dao, I had to have quite some sustain buff on in order to keep him alive. Unlike my current tank hawke, which I barely even on shield defense throughout act 1 even in nightmare mode. To me she more like a warrior carrying shield and sword than a tank, as 1h sword also has some minor aoe feature from what I noticed.
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yeah, in da2, my tank just frigging truck through the mobs while varric and fenris lay down the firepower.
this is in normal mode.

in nightmare mode, i dont think i can stand my companions burning through my tank's hp with their careless aoe unless i micromanage

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QUOTE(Nosferatu @ Apr 3 2011, 04:40 PM)
yeah, in da2, my tank just frigging truck through the mobs while varric and fenris lay down the firepower.
this is in normal mode.

in nightmare mode, i dont think i can stand my companions burning through my tank's hp with their careless aoe unless i micromanage
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Actually that not much micro manage in nightmare even if you play as tank hawke. All depends on the party member you choose. I using slightly mod gears for my tank, which base on the stats of fake heavy champion armor, then throw in extra 1 to 2 rune slots, making up all having 3 rune slot and doesnt face much problem. Since I lazy to switch gear, therefore just throw in the feature improve with level up, as well as some minor element resistance to my shield and few status immunity like stun immunity to my armor. Those immunity can be easily found from accessories as well. As currently the fire resistance of my shield had slowly increase from 300+ to 700+ now, which my hawke level is around 16 to 17 and it kinda enough. Even without it, there always a sustain buff which increase all elements to 60%.

As for my party member setup, I usually keep varric and 2 more mages. Varric just use explosive arrows, which dont actually deal much damage to my tank, where merril I only pick up thunder skill tree only. Anders only focus sustain buff only and some dispels. Most of time pause only require to move those range chars as the ai seems kinda dumb and always like to get themselves stuck and cause death.

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ya the ai damn dumb. Even in had mode i keep losing alot of battles cos the guy just go far far and whack other ppl then kena whack and die.

I control ask whack near near and stick together somehow after a while will run far far and die
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How you guys go about killing the high dragon ?
Running around with so many of her minions after you a bit annoying to me

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this is how i set my companions once the high dragon is perched on top of the overlooking cliff and spews her rage fueled fireballs at you and your party

They are spaced out just enough so that they dont take splash damage from the fireballs' impact and then I just heal and pot through the whole process while the high dragon stays on the cliff

(edit: again this is on normal difficulty, dunno how the nightmare will work tongue.gif)

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where is this high dragon? I never play this b4 on my 1st play
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where is this high dragon? I never play this b4 on my 1st play
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but if you completed the game and not met this dragon quest, means you did not talk to
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I c.. then now i will do that quest la. 1st play i just play main story
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QUOTE(Nosferatu @ Apr 3 2011, 06:26 PM)
How you guys go about killing the high dragon ?
Running around with so many of her minions after you a bit annoying to me

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this is how i set my companions once the high dragon is perched on top of the overlooking cliff and spews her rage fueled fireballs at you and your party

They are spaced out just enough so that they dont take splash damage from the fireballs' impact and then I just heal and pot through the whole process while the high dragon stays on the cliff

(edit: again this is on normal difficulty, dunno how the nightmare will work tongue.gif)
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For high dragon in nightmare, I always 1 melee 3 range, and warrior is always a good choice for melee. 2h warrior can easily tank it as long you have the skill taunt with upgrade. When reaching high dragon, your level should be close to 20 to 21, unless you skip alot quests in previous acts. The dragonlings are pretty easy to take care with, unless you really poor equipped. Try use pure ice elemental weapons if you had any on your chars, as ice deal good damage to dragons type. While all those small irritating dragon start pouring out, hold you entire party and move all to a not infested corner which is some distant away. Before reaching halt your warrior/ tank and had him/her stop and charge into the groups of dragons which trailing your party. Spam your aoe and with the aid of your range, those dragonlings can be easily wipe off. Then your entire party can focus on the normal dragon. My 2h warrior with around 52% armor and 20%+ damage resistance can tank pretty easy. The high dragon from my experience doesnt throw much fireballs down while there still dragons or dragonlings in the field. To counter her fireballs, just move your entire party from 1 end of the map to the other end, and keep repeating it. As long as you keep your party running, chances of getting hit is not that high. I also discovered that while gather all your range right below the cliff where she squad and open fire from there, she wont be able to attack your team with fireball. You can give it a try, as I just tried this solution once. Had to have your team right below here, stick to the cliff. Death sometimes cant be avoided. Just bring some mythal's favor and it will be fine. Potionss are always your best friend over heal spell, as potions cooldown faster.

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where is this high dragon? I never play this b4 on my 1st play

Seems like you really dont explore the maps while playing. You wont need to get any quest in order to fight the high dragon. While in act 3, just go into bone pits and you will automatically see the area being burn down and the quest will automatically add to your quest list. Just go down the path and you will meet the high dragon in a quite large opening space.
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thats the thing running around to avoid fireballs, i find it annoying
hence i came up with the idea to just for a diamond formation just enough that the fireball splash dmg does not hurt the other party member and heal and pot through it lol

also that setting allows my tank to run into the middle and taunt the dragonlings and the dragonlings are nicely grouped in the center
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QUOTE(Nosferatu @ Apr 3 2011, 07:52 PM)
thats the thing running around to avoid fireballs, i find it annoying
hence i came up with the idea to just for a diamond formation just enough that the fireball splash dmg does not hurt the other party member and heal and pot through it lol

also that setting allows my tank to run into the middle and taunt the dragonlings and the dragonlings are nicely grouped in the center
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I honestly cant think of any formation for this game, as the npc always run according as they like. Even with hold command, when your tank leave the party too far, the rest will automatic follow up and wont hold the ground. Also I dont like holding the entire party while mobs keep pouring out, as all the range ai is pretty screw up, little bit close up and they will stop attack, standing there become lunch for the dragons. Besides I really cant predict which one in the party the high dragon will hurl her fireballs at, since its all random. Running around is still ok if you ask me, since when the high dragon start throwing fireballs, the field is usually empty. When there are dragonlings, she will just usually idle at the cliff.
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I control the ai to attack if they stop attacking for whatever reason lol
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QUOTE(Nosferatu @ Apr 3 2011, 08:11 PM)
I control the ai to attack if they stop attacking for whatever reason lol
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That is troublesome already tongue.gif I usually left those range char with their ai, and play as melee. Even control them to attack, but once switch back to the melee, the range char will stop attacking again if the close range mob is not yet dead. I usually just point the range char to ran further and let them be there biggrin.gif
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hm yeah lol but i didnt like the running around avoiding fireballs part lol
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QUOTE(Nosferatu @ Apr 3 2011, 08:24 PM)
hm yeah lol but i didnt like the running around avoiding fireballs part lol
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Haha its just control A and click far far. Easy biggrin.gif
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wat does ctrl A do?
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wat does ctrl A do?
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Its for selecting all party members at once.
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I see. thnx. I was holding shift and clicking 1 by 1 b4 this tongue.gif
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You can get ME2 free if you use your DA2 code
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You can get ME2 free if you use your DA2 code
http://dragonage.bioware.com/me2offer/
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Holy crap, that's essentially a 2 for 1 offer for those who don't own both the games.

I have DA2 on 360 but I already own ME2 on PC so i wonder if the code is usable independently of my EA account so i can essentially gift the download code.
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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 6 2011, 03:13 AM)
Holy crap, that's essentially a 2 for 1 offer for those who don't own both the games. 

I have DA2 on 360 but I already own ME2 on PC so i wonder if the code is usable independently of my EA account so i can essentially gift the download code.
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I think you can. When you enter your DA2 online pass code, it just gives you a redeemable ME2 code. Give that to your friend and voila. You enter that code into EA downloader.


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You can get ME2 free if you use your DA2 code
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Do note that this doesn't include the Cerberus network. Kind of a worthy tradeoff for what is essentially a free game
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or perhaps they are making up for the complaints they received. i havent go to the expedition yet, lost the will to carry on. now that they give a free me2, i'd be more happier.


h@h@, last night when i checked cerberus was not included, this morning they made changes to the log and cerberus is now INCLUDED!! rclxms.gif

This includes Zaeed - The Price of Revenge, Cerberus Weapon and Armor, Normandy Crash Site, Cerberus Arc Projector, and Firewalker Pack.

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wow this is unbelievable.. essentially a FREE game!!!
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Actually, is there any other places than Kirkwall in DA2?

I am about level 7 but I am still in Kirkwall (more or less).
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Actually, is there any other places than Kirkwall in DA2?

I am about level 7 but I am still in Kirkwall (more or less).
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not really.

Kirkwall is separated into day/night and
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thats all. I swear DAO had more areas...or iirc tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Nosferatu @ Apr 6 2011, 10:34 PM)
not really.

Kirkwall is separated into day/night and
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thats all. I swear DAO had more areas...or iirc tongue.gif
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I know but other than that where else?
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I know but other than that where else?
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Well the whole story is bout the champion of kirkwall, where else you expect you be ended up at? The whole thing is just bout kirkwall and some tiny bit of its outskirt compound only. Dont expect its going to be like dao with alot areas to explore. Most of the dungeons interior is actually same with some minor differences, eg, disable a hall or a tiny room sweat.gif

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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Apr 6 2011, 10:38 PM)
Well the whole story is bout the champion of kirkwall, where else you expect you be ended up at? The whole thing is just bout kirkwall and some tiny bit of its outskirt compound only
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Expect my character being able to travel elsewhere other than Kirkwall.

Dragon Age Origins had a lot more places to go. Orzammar and what not.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Apr 6 2011, 10:40 PM)
Expect my character being able to travel elsewhere other than Kirkwall.

Dragon Age Origins had a lot more places to go. Orzammar and what not.
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You already say it yourself, its dao, but this is da2 biggrin.gif Have to accept the tuned down, or just throw the game away. Basically you will repeat running around the same areas from act 1 till the game ends. I also miss the options to explore in dao. Isnt orzamar in fereldan?

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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Apr 6 2011, 10:43 PM)
You already say it yourself, its dao, but this is da2 biggrin.gif Have to accept the tuned down, or just throw the game away. Basically you will repeat running around the same areas from act 1 till the game ends. I also miss the options to explore in dao. Isnt orzamar in fereldan?
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I didn't say I hate the game. I am in the midst of playing the game.

I just asked whether there are any other areas in the game as I have just started playing.

What is your point?
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I didn't say I hate the game. I am in the midst of playing the game.

I just asked whether there are any other areas in the game as I have just started playing.

What is your point?
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No specific point, as that how I treat it. If I really dislike it and cant accept it, I will just uninstall and throw it aside tongue.gif

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No specific point, as that how I treat it. If I dislike it, just uninstall and throw it aside tongue.gif
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I start this game and I will finish it.
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LOL why as a champion of Kirkwall, we cannot travel to other city and other location? Why?

Does that mean the champion have to always be in the town?

I thought the hero travel to deep road and other closer location. But if he travels to other small islands, deeper in deep road, saving other villages, then he cannot be called champion of Kirkwall?

If there is sequel for this game that the Champion of Kirkwall travels out from the Kirkwall town into further adventure, then he cannot be called Champion of Kirkwall anymore.

LOL. Just a question to those who like to answer "What do you expect?"

Honestly, I do expect a lot more. =P Too bad the game just gives us a bit of introduction rather than the full story for the adventure of Champion of Kirkwall.

Maybe wait for next sequel or DLC?
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Yeah didnt feel like its a game story at all.. Like playing a half done game
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QUOTE(Alviano @ Apr 6 2011, 11:06 PM)
LOL why as a champion of Kirkwall, we cannot travel to other city and other location?  Why?

Does that mean the champion have to always be in the town?

I thought the hero travel to deep road and other closer location.  But if he travels to other small islands, deeper in deep road, saving other villages, then he cannot be called champion of Kirkwall?

If there is sequel for this game that the Champion of Kirkwall travels out from the Kirkwall town into further adventure, then he cannot be called Champion of Kirkwall anymore.

LOL.  Just a question to those who like to answer "What do you expect?"

Honestly, I do expect a lot more.  =P  Too bad the game just gives us a bit of introduction rather than the full story for the adventure of Champion of Kirkwall.

Maybe wait for next sequel or DLC?
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By given you all you wanted, how else you think they can drain more from us from the future dlc? When I done with dao, I actually skip those like awakening and other dlc. Honestly kirkwall should be more than what we seen, in which I believe that still plenty of areas in free marches had not been included in this da2. I guess everyone that already finished the game should think that there should be more than what we had seen so far in the game.
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there are no epic levels in DA2.. wish we had something like the Orzammar mission. fuuu that was an awesome level
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any1 know how to get them mods working, like alternate companion visuals etc
some of them work some just dont even being the single addon in /overide
im on 1.01 beta
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any1 know how to get them mods working, like alternate companion visuals etc
some of them work some just dont even being the single addon in /overide
im on 1.01 beta
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There should be a read me file for every released mods out there. Just follow the instruction in it. Majority will just require you to put the modded erf or gda files into My Documents\BioWare\Dragon Age 2\packages\core\override and they should work flawlessly.
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lol thx just found out it was under my docs
i hav been dumping it in its root execution folder, did it on the other pc and worked
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there are no epic levels in DA2.. wish we had something like the Orzammar mission. fuuu that was an awesome level
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