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 PROTON SAGA BLM & FL CLUB V12, welcome FL to the family

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post Mar 8 2011, 12:06 PM

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V12 report in...anyway, lost to Persona thread adi.
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post Mar 8 2011, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(MildLO @ Mar 8 2011, 01:29 PM)
for the fl standard version, the seat belt warning indicator will light on when we on the car? my seat belt not light on when i on the car, it is problem?
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No, this light only works on FL executive version/BLM M-line.
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post Mar 8 2011, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 8 2011, 04:53 PM)
hurmm. i did recall hitting 80+ km on my first bar when i got my car..

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Vomit bro, vomittttttt....pump the fuel until vomit, thats call 'full tank', else dun talk about how many mileage per bar anymore.

My full tank 1st bar can give me 100-120km. Highway even reach 140km.

Not ur car problem, is your problem to refuel inconsistent, understand now?

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post Mar 8 2011, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Mar 8 2011, 05:14 PM)
For your case, manual, you should be aiming for an avg of 53 - 55KM per bar, and refuel around RM51 - RM55 for a full tank. That should get you around 11 - 12++KM/l. Obviously the more the better. These are estimates for you to keep track while you are work in progress (in between refills). The finalized figure should always be based on the full tank vs mileage method i outlined previously.


Added on March 8, 2011, 5:19 pmAnd yes, coolkwc is right. Full tank means pump until the petrol pump auto stops. If really push until vomit, kiss your black paint job bye bye. tongue.gif laugh.gif
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Everytime I pump further after the pump auto stop until the fuel can't pump in even 1ml... laugh.gif i can see the fuel at the hole, no kidding. tongue.gif


Added on March 8, 2011, 7:20 pm
QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 8 2011, 06:01 PM)
i think my fault for stating the distance with a benchmark with ringgit
my full tank is rm62 RON95 (the fuel pump auto stop)
it can travel somewhere around 250-300km, 90kmh average speed
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of course my car is not a proton saga

the reason why im posting is because my dad is going to get one new light local car for my sis
budget is below 45k
looks like proton may be a bad idea

why is it that a 1.3 engine in a very light car consumes a lot of fuel (i'd understand if its the rotary)
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how u define very light? OK, Wira, VIOS and Saga which one is heavy?

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Mar 8 2011, 07:41 PM)
Urm .. not sure ....

1) RM62 = 32.63 liters, even 300km/32.63 liters = 9.19 km/l
That's not very good, bearing in mind it's at 90kph avg. What car you driving? I'm guessing sports car or big SUV. Traffic jam all the time?

2) Why do you think it's a bad idea?

3) Coolkwc has a very good question regarding car weight. You might be surprised by the answer.
Damn scary lar, pump like that. lol. I tend to just let it auto stop.

And yeah, I wanted to ask the same question as you as well. Haha.
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Because auto stop mechanism is little bit cacat one, sometimes stop too early. So in order to record very accurate result, i did that. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 8 2011, 07:50 PM)
im driving a modded suv
car curb weight is somewhere around 1.4-1.5 tonnes (dunno the current weight with the current engine)
engine is 1800cc with single turbo (ca18det fitted with a t28/25)
no oxygen sensor and ecu yet to be remapped
yeah, 1litre/9km is not very good
but the previous engine was worse
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according to wiki the curb weight for saga is 1.0+ tonnes
thats a very light car - more than a lotus or the 1st generation suzuki swift

i dunno if its a really bad idea but i've been reading all these negative perspectives over the long term prospects of owning a saga blm/fl
please enlighten me why its not a bad idea?
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Bad idea if Saga is RM80k. But now this car is from RM38k~43k.

Proton is not famous of their FC, this is undeniable, even last gen with Mitsu engine also not so good in FC.

Campro is high rev engine, below 3k is torqueless, but at this speed is crucial since alot of city travel, start stop traffic are around this speed, so even 100kg more heavier the FC is suffer for this small engine.

For new car <45k with good FC you only can get 1 car, Perodua Viva, but how is the handling? body stiffness? Cabin size? Aircon? After I close Viva's door I won't ever think again about this car.

Since you compare to Suzuki Swift, how much you need to spend for it? is RM30k more bro. RM30k for even mad RM3.00/L RON95 and assume Swift no need fuel to run, i can refuel my Saga 6.5 years (avg 180+L/month fuel usage).

About my question just now, my answer is Wira<BLM=VIOS for weight, and do remember BLM and VIOS is in same B segment small sedan, different 40k.

But you choose yourself la, BLM is suitable for ppl who want new car with low price such as fresh grad, but since is for your sis, i think should go for small hatch, this car not suit girl one especially reverse. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(xshiro @ Mar 9 2011, 10:36 AM)
are you sure neo cps fc better than saga blm...
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I'm sure he got the wrong information. 1.6 is 1.6, both are Campro and CPS means for high FC if rev high.
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QUOTE(MildLO @ Mar 9 2011, 01:41 PM)
tomorrow send to sc senawang checking my aircond problem rclxm9.gif
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Dun worry, i bet they will tell you: ni normal punya. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 9 2011, 04:40 PM)
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stock air filter?
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absolutely YES.

I adi changed mine to K&N drop in during 30k.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 9 2011, 05:05 PM)
any major difference?
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Just the different between clogged and new filter. Smooth pickup.

I bought it becos is hassle free. Install and just forget about it, because it claim can tahan 50k miles before need to be cleaned.

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I bought @RM260...WTF... doh.gif He is authorize seller in LYN. He claimed la....
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post Mar 9 2011, 09:03 PM

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Yes.
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QUOTE(R'des @ Mar 10 2011, 02:03 AM)
eh, how to take this thing out ? the whole white cover with the proton logo. i wan clean inside.

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Why you need to clean inside for 1st place? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(R'des @ Mar 10 2011, 06:26 PM)
i wan clean inside because there is some dirts tat make my rear bumper dirty.

especially everyday rain and my rear bumper has many black spots coz of it.
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Easy, since the rain can enter that, means you only need to open the hose and enforce the water goes in for let say 1 to 2 minutes, the dirt should washed away by this amount of water. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sonotme @ Mar 11 2011, 12:19 AM)
referring to the iafm info spoiler in the first page, it says that the iafm activates on 4,400 rpm? is this true?
I always thought it activates around 80km/h  hmm.gif
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Crap info...is 3k la, who said 4.4k? doh.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Mar 11 2011, 03:14 PM)
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3k macam belum release la..
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Hmm, means Campro without IAFM is default at short runner? hmm.gif Cause IAFM is to improve torque dip from 3-4k...

But this IAFM is for Persona and gen2, Campro 1.3 same also?

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QUOTE(gohys85 @ Mar 11 2011, 09:45 PM)
for the saga blm what is the front side door speaker size? some said 5.25" some said 4" i am a bit confused now..haha..the rear speaker 16cm can fit?anyone who had installed/replaced their stock speaker with a new one? smile.gif
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6.5" no problem. What you need to take care is the depth of the speaker, our door is too thin, too deep might block you power windows, so you need to have an accurate speaker holder.

Stock rear speaker = front speaker.

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QUOTE(gohys85 @ Mar 11 2011, 10:00 PM)
alright, thanks a lot smile.gif i bought one 5.25" for the front speaker..hope it can fit~~..i wish i got the dimension of sure fit front speaker size that i can refer to..search internet cant find any also~~
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QUOTE(rogerben90 @ Mar 12 2011, 12:24 AM)
hello~~~ im driving Saga BLM SE (AT) , planning to convert to manual transmission, really suffering with high fc and slow pick up~~ does any 1 know abt the cost of convert AT to MT in proton service center??  and the brake pedal will they change for me also ? cox the size of brake pedal is different, AT is bigger~~
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I dun know the cost, but i disagree you do that.

Either u sell ur car and get another car, or just use to it.

This is cheap car, not worth for doing conversion.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 13 2011, 02:13 PM)
One of this ->

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To do, this ->

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Be aware the strip will melted under hot sun.

If want to do, do it in right way, car sound proof got its own material. I did DIY for 4 doors and boot, if u want i can share you picture here.

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