Myvi win for low engine noise & perodua QC...
BLM win price, handling, size, power, sound system, comfort yada yada yada...
PROTON SAGA BLM & FL CLUB V12, welcome FL to the family
PROTON SAGA BLM & FL CLUB V12, welcome FL to the family
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May 3 2011, 09:09 AM
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Myvi win for low engine noise & perodua QC...
BLM win price, handling, size, power, sound system, comfort yada yada yada... |
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May 3 2011, 03:20 PM
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change rear speaker and front speaker, add woofer & amp, if wanna change HU also ok but to me the HU quality is decent, no need to change 1..
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May 7 2011, 11:27 AM
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10w or 5w doesnt matter since that's juz the viscosity value in winter temperature... Nothing to do wif our climate... The end number is the important value... Our climate use 40 or 50... 30 too light n our car suffer pressure loss on high temp..
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May 7 2011, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ May 7 2011, 01:48 PM) Last month i checked at acc shop in kch, around 400 to 500.. Veli the nice 1, LED + smokey tint------------------------ @gagak_84 - even in cold start, the lube temp still not sub-zero... This post has been edited by omara86: May 7 2011, 03:10 PM |
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May 7 2011, 08:41 PM
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Here is the fact, how the engine work between long stroke n short stroke is diff.. S4PH (1.6) & K3-VE both r long stroke engine, but not for S4PE (1.3) which is short when u compare the bore:stroke ratio.. Diff compression n diff revving character... Short stroke engine (S4PE, B16A) tend to rev higher than the long stoke to gain power which when using thin lube, it will heats up & breaks down very fast. The heating process, when the cycle too fast, will quicken the wear n tear... Overheating is not the way to measure lube compatibility since the radiator is there to cool down/maintain the temp in d safe zone.. Overheating is not the immediate effect of using thin oil which is not compatible to the engine... Proton is the engine maker, they know what they built n how it works.. They wot suggest things that will destroy their creation...
U ask b16a user, what happen when they use 5w-30... Now ayam at bintulu, 1 week tavelling, tot wanna wait until balik kuching baru reply here about this... here no 3g so my digi so slow, summore i'm on iphone, so leceh to type panjang2 like dis.. But many pages wif misinformation so i hav to sacrifice my eyes n finger to type here, heheheh... Btw this is only 1 of the reason, got another reason but i cant remember... Added on May 7, 2011, 8:56 pm QUOTE(gagak_84 @ May 7 2011, 08:34 PM) Btw the fact by siuyi is right, the right way to break-in the new engine is by using thicker lube for the 1st three services (if normally we use 10w-40, to break-in use 10w-50)... Not a must but can do if want max performance from the engine.. This issue is still debated among omputeh mechanic n scientist bcoz some agree n some not, but the facts siding the break-in idea...This post has been edited by omara86: May 7 2011, 08:56 PM |
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May 7 2011, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ May 7 2011, 09:00 PM) U at bintulu? Come join me karaoke 2nite... Here so hot, even now i'm sweating..Added on May 7, 2011, 9:17 pm QUOTE(gagak_84 @ May 7 2011, 09:08 PM) hehehe.. Campro is not a new engine, same old dohc engine with short intake addon, not within the engine, unlike i-vtec, gema mivec (not applicable to all old mivec, some r new tech n some not, 4G13, 4G18, 4G91, 4G92 is old 1) tsi, vvt-i, dvvt etc...i know about short stroke..bore and etc.. doesnt matter what how long the stroke is..how bigger cc it is.. what i mean is.. 5w30 is for new engine.. not suitable for old engine.. B16a /b16b or 4g91/4g92/4g93/4g93t i work at car manufacturer b4.. i know what it mean.. The new thing is the system running the campro engine: ecu, throttle body, valve timing, drive-by-wire, air-cond control, etc... Btw even TSI engine also cannot use 5w-30 unless the specific 1 designated 5w-30 for TSI engine... They use 5w-40 for TSI... This post has been edited by omara86: May 7 2011, 09:24 PM |
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May 7 2011, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(Cloudx @ May 7 2011, 09:24 PM) Just change my tyre to YOKOHAMA A Drive 1pc for RM160 including balancing. Very quiet and smooth tyre Bcareful when using quiet tyre bcoz not all r good at grip, especially when it's cheap... But when good grip but noisy, very tension, feel like driving a 4wd with offroad tyre, heheheheh...Added on May 7, 2011, 9:29 pm QUOTE(gagak_84 @ May 7 2011, 09:24 PM) not the design.. i mean new car come out from shop.. Yup, it's me... I alrdy found eneos seller here but still afraid bcoz i dunno it's ori or not, hehehehe...new car better used 5w . old car (engine) used 10w or below. omara.. did u are the one want to buy eneos from me.. but i cannot post it to sarawak? U didnt quote the last paragraph together.. About the TSI engine, edited juz now.. This post has been edited by omara86: May 7 2011, 09:33 PM |
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May 7 2011, 10:13 PM
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May 8 2011, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(pravred @ May 8 2011, 12:49 AM) i'm all confused so the oil used by proton sc is the best rite or am i missing something. Yup, the best is follow wat SC suggested, but wanna change diff brand also can, make sure u follow the viscosity suggested by 'em.. They can suggest depend on ur budget, hi or lo...btw i mentioned abt the pdt tuning i did for free in the earlier post and i'm starting to see changes in my car the ride feels smoother,hopefully can see better results after i service another 500+km to go. That's the good part about our self learning Siemens ecu.. U can do self tuning also... Unplug ur battery for half an hour to reset ur ECU then plug-in back.. Then drive ur car according to ur preference, wanna normal drive, drive normally, u want sport mode, race ur car then the ecu will store it... Sry if got typo coz on phone now, i'm drunk summore, hehehe |
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May 8 2011, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ May 8 2011, 01:10 AM) so whats the diff if the ECU had learn between normal & sport driving? like what is the effect if it learn normal mode,and what is the effect if it learn sport mode? I'm not sure how the ECU work but from p2p testimonial, myself also... When i test drive my fren's BLM (same manual) his car less responsive and the revving feeling is less compared to my car, even my fren also tell me that, my car more chun to race n speed-up... But his car's FC is better than mine (mine is RM50 for 250km only, his car goes up more than 300km for the same RM50, both on RON95 since 1st day)... Btw everyday, everytime i'm driving my car, i will do high-speed, to work, back home, jalan2, i cant drive slow or my brain will stop functioning...I'm not a FC concerned type of person.. I dun care eat fuel much or less, as long as i'm faster than others.. I'm used to drive perdana n toyota mr-s for daily drive so FC is not in my dictionary... This post has been edited by omara86: May 8 2011, 01:36 AM |
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May 8 2011, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ May 8 2011, 01:55 AM) omara86 No la, the mileage count got romserdang now.haven back kch. regarding unplug battery thingy, u not scared the mileage meter go gila ar? memory on it, even if u didnt start the car for years, u still keep the ori count... But still, it's hackable (editable for old analog meter)... Ayam quite drunk now, 8th jug for 3 of us.. Dah la the other fren (my fren's fren) owez skip drink.. Escape owez.. Haizzzzz... Added on May 8, 2011, 2:08 am QUOTE(Aishinka @ May 8 2011, 02:03 AM) mileage meter can go gila if unplug battery? what other things that might/will change if unplug battery? besides resetting the ECU Reset ECU n reset radio setting (which i hate the most coz clarion use auto-tune 1)...Btw my turbo set gonna arrive soon, will give feedback to u guys.. This post has been edited by omara86: May 8 2011, 02:08 AM |
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May 8 2011, 02:49 AM
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ May 8 2011, 02:43 AM) lol...ur the best 1 la... haha Lol, ayam not kidding one.., if i drive slow, either i'm driving woth my subconcious mind (sedar2 ayam alrdy reach my destination) or i'm kinda dreaming 1... Mine if at PENANG, cant be nice..... aways cucuk blalkang keta makcik2 yg xsedar diri bwak slow kt speed lane till they go away, haha..soooo Even my wife n kids also bising if i drive slow, hehehhee.. |
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May 8 2011, 11:49 AM
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I'm tired explaining n ppl dun wanna take it n make it as arguement point... I wont explain again over n over again... My hangover also still here n kinda heavy headache now, at 12 later need to drive for 10 hours back to kuching..
Gagak_84 - I dun mind u wanna promote ur product, but my statement is not to down ur sales or ur idealogy, but i'm telling the fact so: - our fellow BLM get a well maintained car - our fellow BLM get te correct info to share with others outside there - end up if their car hav prob, they the 1 who will face it, not the misinformation teller, and the 1 kena sumpah later is proton bcoz selling tin milo, i dont want that n n i hope our car last longer I'll stop here, typing on iphone makes my hangover worst, shit... Last nite drink up too much... |
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May 8 2011, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(rajivshm @ May 8 2011, 03:13 PM) what does break-in means? and how do i do it? Actually to break-in, u hv to rev... Go to google, search for engine break-in tutorial...so before first service hv to drive slow slow n dont rev too fast? any speed limit or rpm limit to rev? thanks. My SC allow me bring my own oil, even my own spark plug (when i say i wanna use iridium, but too bad cannot find)... I takut kena fake oil in kuching, so i decides to use petronas lube.. |
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May 10 2011, 12:01 AM
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My latest consumption: 17.177km/L
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May 10 2011, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ May 10 2011, 12:58 AM) omara86 Proton Edar SC Semariang branch (near D'Simpang Cafe, across BNB food court), they did that to me when my car ECU gone haywire (wat i mean is it going to safe-fuel mode when i want to do sport-mode)... that time i dunno how to reset thru unplug battery method.. i i asked them to do that for me... heheheheheu know which SC in kuching got pdt reset service ka? the handhelp thingy the plug under the steering to reset the ECU ar. Added on May 10, 2011, 12:41 pm QUOTE(manubis @ May 10 2011, 12:16 PM) guys need 2 ask before waranty problem, if voltage stablizer n grounding cable, central lock(press the break lock all door. Thus this 2 item void the waranty? Thanx this thing is subjective bcoz some SC dun really care about what u addon... but some r strict and will reject ur case with that if they malas to handle ur case... the best is to remove 'em 1st b4 u go there... This post has been edited by omara86: May 10 2011, 12:41 PM |
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May 10 2011, 01:23 PM
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May 10 2011, 04:21 PM
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adrianteddy... consider this...
BLM N-Line - RM38,xxx (price when i bought this, dunno ur price) No power window black bumper, white body no ceiling hand holder 1 yr older as a new car (2009 made, sold in 2010) manual only FL Standard solic manual - RM37,xxx things stated below not included in N-Line BLM Central Door Lock Alarm & keyless entry remote Reverse sensor Immobiliser First Aid Kit Safety Triangle Tinted Window Audio Radio CD/MP3 player Luggage Tray Door visor Trunk Lid Cover |
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