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post Jan 1 2013, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 1 2013, 11:48 AM)
I just order a mede1000x3d player. It is realtek 1186. The best player at the moment.
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From where did you buy this player?
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post Jan 1 2013, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jan 1 2013, 03:52 PM)
From where did you buy this player?
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Mediaconceptusa.com
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post Jan 7 2013, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(go4pch @ Dec 7 2012, 11:14 PM)
No C-400 launching. Only A-400.

What you mean by HDD size? Capacity?

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Added on December 7, 2012, 11:21 pm

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So C-400 is not out yet?

Yeah, max HDD capacity size.

And also, can it be used to download files directly into the hdd and play like a media box? Or must I download on my laptop and transfer into the HDD manually?
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post Jan 7 2013, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(kevin_kwfoong @ Jan 7 2013, 02:31 PM)
So C-400 is not out yet?

Yeah, max HDD capacity size.

And also, can it be used to download files directly into the hdd and play like a media box? Or must I download on my laptop and transfer into the HDD manually?
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2TB.

You can used BitTorrent P2P / Usenet downloader to download your contents onto the HDD and playback from the HDD.

Thanks.
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post Jan 7 2013, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 1 2013, 11:48 AM)
Everybody know what is the media player for. If they put a cinavia into it, that mean the player is useless. It is better grab the realtek player now before they too implement it in future. Sigh...

I just order a mede1000x3d player. It is realtek 1186. The best player at the moment.
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Yeah Cinavia in a Media player sounds like a contradiction?

Ok for those that don't know "Cinavia technology is used in Blu-ray Disc players to identify and limit the use of copies of these movies, television shows, and other professionally produced videos that have been made without the permission of the copyright owner."
Cinavia Web Site - Click Here

Now I would guess a high proportion of Media Player users are downloading movies from the Internet and want to store / play them. I'm not sure how many will use a 3TB hard drive to store 100% 'back-up' copies of movies for which they have genuine originals. Despite all the disclaimers the Media Player makers know this is the usage pattern of most of their customers. Having said that, the way I read it, Cinavia wont even let you play a back-up copy.

As I understand it Cinavia is a audible copy protection system and will even thwart those who CAM a movie in the theatre. I'm sure in the fullness of time someone will bring out something to strip out the Cinavia embedded codes or a Sigma SMP8911 'firmware' adjustment to ignore the alert or switch it off.

But in the meantime, if my understanding is right I would see limited use for a Cinavia equipped Media Player.
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post Jan 8 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 30 2012, 10:38 PM)
comes with cinavia protection, isn't it?
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To clear the air. A-400 do not have Cinavia Protection, that's precisely why full navigation is not supported.

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 1 2013, 11:46 AM)
I believe it does not hv Cinavia as it only uses BD Lite menus. As long as it does not do full menus and does not hv a BD ROM, Cinavia is not mandatory.
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Yes, you are absolutely, right.

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post Jan 8 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(go4pch @ Jan 8 2013, 10:53 AM)
To clear the air. A-400 do not have Cinavia Protection, that's precisely why full navigation is not supported.
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Mmmm I love the smell of clean air in the morning! Thanks for the clarification!

As I now understand it, Full Blu-ray Disk Navigation is where the menu looks EXACTLY as it does when you insert the Blu-ray into a Blu-ray player and has all the enhanced menu features / options AND CINAVIA security.
This would only be applicable if the Media Player had a Blu-ray player built in, or at the least the ability to add one, otherwise it serves no purpose.

Example:
The A-200 is only BDLite, no Blu-ray player no way of fitting one.
The C-200 is full BD playback for when you are playing a Blu-Ray disc in the Blu-Ray Player of the unit AND also an option for BDLite playback when you are playing a Blu-ray format / 'back-up' from a HDD.

Again as I now understand it, if you have for instance a AVI or MKV file on a HDD drive all this talk of menu's and CINAVIA is mute, irrelevant, does not apply, since you won't have any 'Menu' anyway. You will have basic REMOTE controls like pause, fast forward, rewind, continue, re-play but you will never get DISC BASED Menu options, things like Chapters, Play full movie, "how it was made special', 'Actor interviews', 'still photo's' etc.

As the A-400 like the A-200 has no Blu-ray player built in Full DB Playback would be pretty much pointless.
Please correct me if I'm wrong?

Would for instance an ISO back-up of a Blu-ray disc play / show full menu; played from NAS HDD on a A-400, I'm not sure?
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QUOTE(gsshaw @ Jan 8 2013, 12:09 PM)
Mmmm I love the smell of clean air in the morning! Thanks for the clarification!

As I now understand it,  Full Blu-ray Disk Navigation is where the menu looks EXACTLY as it does when you insert the Blu-ray into a Blu-ray player and has all the enhanced menu features / options AND CINAVIA security.
This would only be applicable if the Media Player had a Blu-ray player built in, or at the least the ability to add one, otherwise it serves no purpose.

Example:
The A-200 is only BDLite, no Blu-ray player no way of fitting one.
The C-200 is full BD playback for when you are playing a Blu-Ray disc in the Blu-Ray Player of the unit AND also an option for BDLite playback when you are playing a Blu-ray format / 'back-up' from a HDD.

Again as I now understand it, if you have for instance a AVI or MKV file on a HDD drive all this talk of menu's and CINAVIA is mute, irrelevant, does not apply, since you won't have any 'Menu' anyway. You will have basic REMOTE controls like pause, fast forward, rewind, continue, re-play but you will never get DISC BASED Menu options, things like Chapters, Play full movie, "how it was made special', 'Actor interviews', 'still photo's' etc.

As the A-400 like the A-200 has no Blu-ray player built in Full DB Playback would be pretty much pointless.
Please correct me if I'm wrong?

Would for instance an ISO back-up of a Blu-ray disc play / show full menu; played from NAS HDD on a A-400, I'm not sure?
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The A200/A210 has full BD menu playback, you can play full ripped BD ISO file with full BD menu.
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QUOTE(go4pch @ Jan 7 2013, 05:08 PM)
2TB.

You can used BitTorrent P2P / Usenet downloader to download your contents onto the HDD and playback from the HDD.

Thanks.
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And all these P2P downloaders can run directly from the player, right?
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QUOTE(kevin_kwfoong @ Jan 8 2013, 03:27 PM)
And all these P2P downloaders can run directly from the player, right?
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Yes, from the HDD attached to the player.
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post Jan 9 2013, 05:13 PM

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I hope this is not too noob a question to ask, sorry if it is. What's the difference between the A and C series? I assume the latest models are A-400 and C-200?
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QUOTE(kevin_kwfoong @ Jan 9 2013, 05:13 PM)
I hope this is not too noob a question to ask, sorry if it is. What's the difference between the A and C series? I assume the latest models are A-400 and C-200?
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"A" Series:
1. Usually come in compact size.
2. BD Lite Menu
3. 1 USB Slave Port
4. 2 USB Ports

"C" Series:
1. Bigger casing which can add in optical drive (optional)
2. LCD/LED Display in front panel
3. Full BD Navigation
4. Support MiniPCI MII Interface for 11n WiFi card
5. 2x SATA Ports
6. RF Remote Control
7. Power Button
8. 4+1 USB Ports

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post Jan 10 2013, 09:30 AM

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I believe, the latest C model is C-300 (which I'm using) tongue.gif

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post Jan 10 2013, 12:12 PM

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Really? How's it? Care to give a brief review?
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Compared with my old C-200, the C-200 is better in terms of stability. C-200/300 has almost the same functionality but the 300 has better LED screen and higher model chipset. In a week, I have to reset the 300 like 5 times while 200 maybe twice a month.
I have two TVs, so the c-200 is being used with my older tv.

I believe the pch people are still working with the 300 fw but future fw will be slower to come out as they are concentrating on the A-400 at the moment.
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QUOTE(raif @ Jan 10 2013, 12:51 PM)
Compared with my old C-200, the C-200 is better in terms of stability. C-200/300 has almost the same functionality but the 300 has better LED screen and higher model chipset. In a week, I have to reset the 300 like  5 times while 200 maybe twice a month.
I have two TVs, so the c-200 is being used with my older tv.

I believe the pch people are still working with the 300 fw but future fw will be slower to come out as they are concentrating on the A-400 at the moment.
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Hi raif,

Thank you so much for your understanding and patient. I admits 300 FW have a bit delay due to they are pushing for 400. Overall functionality 300 have more features and better picture quality.

Anyhow we already pushing them (Syabas) very hard for the new 300 FW.

Thanks.

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I'm interested in an A-400. PM the price please. Thanks...
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post Jan 16 2013, 03:52 PM

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Can PM me the price too?
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best price for A-400 please

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