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shenngau
post Dec 29 2011, 09:56 AM

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Job Title : Software Design Engineer ( Jan 2012)
Age: 26
Job Description : Software development, implementation, support, etc.
Years spent in company : 0 (Only will join on Jan 2012)
Company : MNC
Industry : Telecommunication
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining : 3.5 years
Basic Salary : RM4500
(Started on 2008 - RM2200, 2009 - RM2800, 2010 - RM3300, 2011 - RM3800)

Bonus: at least 1 month bonus and depends on performance
Benefits: RM100 (Parking), RM800 (Dental & Optical)

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post Dec 29 2011, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Dec 29 2011, 10:10 AM)
Just wonder, how many companies you had work for? 1 year 1 company?
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1st company - 1.5 years
2nd company - 2 years
3rd company - I wish I can work more than 5 years happy.gif
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post Dec 29 2011, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(siticute @ Dec 29 2011, 04:08 PM)
wah so lucky! can i know what language u're using ?
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Erm.. I didn't focus on a same language.
I got promoted in my 1st company n 2nd company so I think the increment is quite standard if u perform well or get promoted.

Below is the languages and skills that I used in different company:
1st company - Shell Script, Unix/Linux command (Monitor server & maintain server), SQL (for doing reporting), Oracle DB, Perl script
2nd company - Ruby on Rails, Linux/Unix (installation, configuration, maintenance), Oracle DB
3rd company (haven't start yet) - the system has its own language, Linux/Unix, Oracle DB

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post Jan 5 2012, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jan 5 2012, 04:33 PM)
No, different field requires different needs. Like my company, we don't favour job hopper. What's the point of hiring someone when you know you can keep him/her for only one year? Waste resources.

Some industries are alright with job hopper but not all.

So, it is not all about old fashioned culture or anything. It is about the requirement from the company.

I'm a HR practitioner from a MNC, we are not a conservative company but when it comes to recruitment, job hoppers are not the one we are looking for. There are candidates who successfully made into our company though they change company very often of course with very valid reasons (i.e. restructuring, previous company ramped down and etc.).
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How many year then only not consider job hopper? 3 years? 5 years?
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post Jan 15 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(kiko911 @ Jan 15 2012, 11:14 AM)
has anyone worked for cement industries as an engineer before, is RM2.7  underpaid for an Fresh Graduate? Please tell me thx
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I not in cement industry but RM2.7k to fresh graduate is not bad. The standard salary for fresh graduate in klang valley now is rm2.5k.
if 1st honour or 2nd upper honour may get higher salary..
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post Jan 29 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(kiko911 @ Jan 29 2012, 11:44 AM)
Fresh graduate, process engineer position at Ipoh, a electronic company starting salary RM2500, consider ok? please give some advices
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I think it is standard.
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post Jan 31 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(38lang @ Jan 31 2012, 11:16 AM)
Job Title : Senior System Engineer
Years spent in company : 4 years
Company :global company, branches in MY, Australia, UK, VN, SG, NL and etc
Industry : IT
Tenure : permanent
Experience before joining : fresh grad
salary : RM 4.1k
working day: mon-fri
benefit: insurance, medical claim RM400 per year
bonus: no

UNDERPAID?
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Yes, I think u r underpaid. How's ur performance review? If well perform, then u should ask for 5k at least.
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post Feb 4 2012, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(quahquah @ Feb 4 2012, 06:06 PM)
This is my current situation.

Job Title : Senior Quantity Surveyor
Age: 30
Years spent in company : 3 years 6 months
Industry : Construction
Employment Level : Quantity Surveying
Experience before joining : 6 months contract basis (after graduate)
Basic Salary : RM2,565.00(only increase RM70.00 this year, last year no increase)
Allowance:RM290.00 (Penang bridge toll & petrol, everyday drive about 22km to office)
Tenure: Permanent
Bonus: Depend on Boss (last year 2 months, last 2 year 2.25months and pay by installments.)
Benefits: Medical except dental & optical.

Now people offering me.

Basic Salary : RM3,100.00(increased after confirmation)
Allowance:RM1000.00 (if got outstation)
Tenure: Permanent
Bonus: Depend on Boss (2-4 months)
Benefits: Medical except dental & optical.

I think i should leave, right?
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Ur current is 2855 (2565 + 290) n new offer is 3100. Make sure u will go outstation oftenly so u can get the 1k allowance.
Or else, I feel like not worth to jump ship.
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post Feb 11 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(oneilx @ Feb 11 2012, 11:45 AM)
Age: 28
Job Title : Programmer
Job Desciption : Lead Programmer, software developments, some management
Years spent in company : 2 years and a half
Industry : Software Development (also software and hardware support)
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior Executive
Experience before joining : None
Salary : RM 3500
Bonus : 1 Month but will increase the longer one work here
Benefits : Medical Leave, Annual Leave
Location: Kota Kinabalu, Sabah
Working Hours: Mon-Sat (One day work till 10pm and saturday work alternate half and normal weekly)
Education Level: B.S.E Computer Engineering

Workload is quite heavy sometimes with one day working until 10pm and every saturday we work half and normal alternately. I am a hard worker and usually don't mind the work time/load but recently my manager keep pushing us to complete work quicker (while not considering how hard/time consuming the project is) and I start to feel burnt from working.

Anyway, I'm not sure if I'm underpaid or good enough but I'm thinking to explore new job opportunities in Peninsular. Recently I have been interviewing with some bank IT dept in Peninsular. What do you guys think?
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Not sure whether u r underpaid since u r working in Sabah.
If working in KL, RM3500 is the average salary for 2yrs exp.

If u r interested to work in KL, u can pm me. Maybe I can help. =)
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post May 1 2012, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(yingchai @ Apr 28 2012, 02:55 PM)
Job Title: BI Consultant
Age:29
Education: Degree in Computer Science
Years spent in company : 1 years
Company : MNC
Location: Selangor
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Basic salary : 5k
Experience before joining : 5 years
Benefits: no bonus, medical, insurance, performance incentive
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Is a subsidiary company of big Chinaman company?
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post May 12 2012, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(noname22 @ May 12 2012, 08:39 PM)
Hi guys, I am fresh graduate and accept the position as junior programmer. They offer me 2K. Am I underpaid for degree student ? .May I know the salary range for the fresh graduate in the market rate ?
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2k is low. If you think you are good, you can bargain it. Like after probation, you want 2.5k or the salary that you want.
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post Jun 19 2012, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Jun 19 2012, 08:13 PM)
Lolz, I think you are right too. I think o&g company, MNC and oversea  companies do offer as high as RM3k and more for fresh grad.

Maybe, I was just frustrated with not getting jobs after so many interview that I forgot those facts. Thanks 4 correcting.

But correct me if i'm wrong, a RM3k job will need more of your time and effort compare to others? Or it is just something big companies do because they can?


Added on June 19, 2012, 8:16 pm

I think this depends on qualifications and experiences. A 24 years old degree holder is no more different than 22 years old degree holder.
Whereas, a 24 years old man is different than 22 years old degree holder.
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Agreed with u. Depends on qualifications and experience.

From the colleagues and friends that I know and their PERFORMANCE always ABOVE AVERAGE, their average yearly increment is 20~25% for the 1st 5 years.
Let say 1st year is RM2500 then after 5 years, salary definitely above RM5000.

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post Jun 20 2012, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Jun 20 2012, 04:36 PM)
just out of curiousity, for all those in IT field, how long did it take for you to get out of 2k zone?

means salary RM2000 -> RM2999 (basic only)

asking this because a lot of housing agent advise me "with your salary cant get the loan. bank see basic only as commission is not stable"
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If a fresh graduate with degree holder n work in klang valley, then shouldnt get below 2k... unless ur skills very poor..

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post Jun 21 2012, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(iastate @ Jun 21 2012, 11:24 AM)
No input from any of you?  sad.gif
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Just share what I know, no offense.

Last year I was Technical Consultant with 3 yrs exp and my job scope was your job scope + develops software.
I only get RM3800. So if you are working a company like me, then I think it is not underpaid. tongue.gif

Some consultant firms offers RM3.8k or above to fresh graduates (mostly 1st class/2nd Upper students). If u think u r better than those consultants in consulting firms. Then u definitely should get higher salary.


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post Jun 23 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(ubuntu @ Jun 23 2012, 11:14 AM)
Job Title : IT Programmer
Job Desciption : Developer and support
Years spent in company : 3 and half years
Company : MNC company
Industry : Banking / Telecommunication
Tenure : permanent
Experience before joining : 2 years
salary : RM 3800 (1 month bonus plus other allowance about RM100 per month)
Hi guys, I'm asking on behalf of my siblings, does it underpaid?
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Actually hardly to tell whether underpaid or not. It depends on skills and experience.

I assume ur sibling's skills r above average and experienced in big/good project, then he/she should ask for higher salary.
What I think is at least 5k. Maybe even higher.


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post Jun 23 2012, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(ernest0205 @ Jun 23 2012, 09:25 PM)
salary increase also not enough to cover rising expenses lol.currency too small  cry.gif
Depends how much is the increment.. So far, im quite lucky n the increment is good.. smile.gif
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post Jun 24 2012, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Eva Eve @ Jun 24 2012, 04:52 PM)
Job Title : Product Architect
Job Desciption : Analyze business needs, acting as a liaison between customers (including in-house users) and developers, design system workflow and graphic user interface, write clear, concise requirements and documentation
Years spent in company : 6 months (join in as fresh grad)
Company : KL based company
Industry : IT
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : junior executive
Experience before joining : no
salary : RM2415
am i underpaid??
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This is ur first job so it is ok.. Accumulate ur document templates, learn the effective communication skills from ur senior, keep good relationship with ur current company n clients..
After 2 years, jz requests at least RM5k..
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post Jun 25 2012, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(iastate @ Jun 25 2012, 08:30 AM)
5k after 2 years is extremely hard. 4k is still possible.
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request 5k then normally will be lower down by new employer..
But it is not impossible, Accenture consultant definitely can get this figure.
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post Jun 25 2012, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(sense75 @ Jun 25 2012, 12:08 PM)
if you think your programming skillset is quite expert now then you can look for elsewhere and demand 20-30% higher of your current paid.
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Just test the market, request RM4K at least.
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post Jun 25 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(danieltan @ Jun 25 2012, 03:35 PM)
My technical skill quite okie due of involvement with lot of enhancement/customization from none to somthing.

Truely, although this company can allow you to learn everything from fixing to enhancement into customization.

But if continuely grow within this company, I cant barely save little money given.
Sure one thing, every guy need to built own family, great blow to me if I planning to get wedding with this salary. Currently 27 years old. If work for 5 years, I only expected get RM200, mean if current I have RM2900.

1 years experience = RM2500
2 years experience = RM2800
3 years experience = RM2900++
5 years experience = RM3200++
Keep in mind, company if got profit, sure dont mind to invest more their employee.
As situation now, that company always earn enough ngam-ngam.

Ever now my company nearby able ride with motor. What is I planning if 29 years old, go wedding, need house right?

Kinda dilemma. I expected to have good news from company. Anyhow end up with sad news, given accumulated RM100.
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Understand the increment is less if company is not earning much. But why not jz try out in other company.

I doing OO programming in telco industry, can be any programming language.

My salary:
2008->RM2200
2009->RM2800
2010->RM3300
2011->RM3800
2012->RM4500->RM5000

Yes, need to plan for wedding n buy house. So u should test the market n see wat u can get.

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