I'm surprised that there are still people who judge HR in such manners.
Most of the big companies have already outsourced their payroll system and their HR has no time to check on dress code and attendance.
Talent management is so important these days, without that employees will not grow and stay longer with the company.

Alright. Thanks for sharing.

As I come to different stages of life, my goal has been revised for numeral times. Salute you as you could hold on your goal all these years. 

If I have Master degree in IT and various professional certifications - Microsoft > 12 certificates (MCTS x 6, MCITP x 4, MCDST), A+, Security+, Server+, ITIL v3, CWNP (CWTS,CWNA), but without job experience. Should I accept the offer for 1 year Help-desk position with Rm 2000 (basic)?: . I was advised by some of my friends to gain experience first before applying for a better technical position .. is it the right step?     

Thank you     

You'll fare much better being in the education sector if all you can get with all those professional certifications is an helpdesk job.

regards.

Thanks for the reply      . I've received a lot of interview ( > 15) recently but 90% of it is a helpdesk position. That's what drive my friends to advised me to just take the offer and bare for 1 year regardless of the pay. Fresh grad still a fresh grad ...     

Certification or not fresh grad with no experience is still fresh. Take up the job first then your market value will go up very quickly

not bad. try to appreciate ur job brother.
there's a lot of other people who are jobless out there

What do you guys think?

Job title: ITIL Problem Manager
Age: 28
Job Description : Manage problem management task, drive perform root cause analysis task and prepare report for major incidents.
Years spent in company : 1.5 years
Experience before joining: Degree in Information Systems Engineering from MMU, 2 years in service Desk, 1 year business manager for local start up company.
Location: Cyberjaya
Industry : IT
Tenure : permanent

Salary : RM 5.6K plus Rm350 Allowance
Benefits: medical claim + Rm1000 (dental and optical claim combined)
Increments :performance based
Bonus: 1 month salary (contractual) + performance based

I know where you work at now, but I don't know got such position in there until now

your RM1000 claims per annum clearly shows that you are a manager rank people there, you are doing very good in terms of climbing career ladder..

well, now I roughly know how much do managers there getting paid each month, I can also roughly estimate how much my bosses make in a month

honestly, I think that is abit low, maybe I have big appetite 

Yeah, RM 5.6k for managerial level does sound little to me as well.

Guys, I got a question, a stupid question from a stupid noob...

If I want to get a higher pay (like, 5 figures), which one is better, focus on technical until can become Solution Architect, achieve 5 figures salary, then go to management side, or aim for the 5 figures salary within the management position itself...

you guys got what I mean aa? ~__~

IMO, although there are differences, but it won't be too much of difference between individual manager and people manager

many people manager are lack of specialized technical skills, and some of them do not even have ITIL, in many cases, a manager with professional certs will always have higher pay than those who is not

Dun think so my team is full as far as i know there are no openings

Job Title :Field Engineer
Age: 25
Job Desciption :Installation
Years spent in company :3 month
Company : You may know in future
Location:Worldwide
Industry : Oil And Gas
Tenure : permanent
salary : RM 7k++ ( Coming to hit RM8k ++ this few month )
benefits:What ever they have in this industry~

OIC.. your co.. paying in USD.. so RM600 increment = USD 190
USD250/day for contract staff
1 month work for 22days @ USD250 = USD5500.00
so contract staff 1 month salary = RM 17,500.00
wah liao... a whooping RM17k salary for contract staff
better pay than high rank staff like General manager, CEO, COO... etc..
  I wanna become your colleague..
Got any vacancy please pm every forumer here..

doomdoom, you seem like know the market quite well thus all the comments given to the forumers. Are you sure your comments stand valid?

In fact not every position with assistant manager level will get paid for RM10k or so, it's really depends on structure of a company, which line, and also years of experience you have gained.

By the way, have you shared yours as well?

My job:
Age : 26
Years spent in company : 2 years +
Company : MNC
Industry : Semiconductor
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Managerial
Experience before joining : 1/2 year in local chemical trading company
Salary : RM 2.4K (13 months salary)
Benefits: Medical coverage, transport allowance, profit sharing (if business is good),

I feel I am underpaid. BTW, I live in Kedah. Can advice??

My current pay RM6100 and they're offering RM500 increment.. plus Vehicle allowance RM400 (plus another rm200 upon confirmation) and mobile/broadband RM100 (RM700 in total) - besides that i will entitle 20% of my salary if can achieve the target.. - this is considering i have 0 knowledge in sale/pre-sales.. what do you think? Fair enough?

I f i'm staying in technical/engineering area.. i am expecting between 20-30% increment in my next job..

Degree does not really that helpful..

Actually experience matters more in my opinion. Qualification is important when you apply for your first job.

At least when I screen through candidates, qualification is not the first thing I see.

For the industry where I'm based now, we look at the experience and all the technical skills the candidates possess before anything else.
As engineers, extra set of technical skills is crucial in order for them to climb higher in the corporate ladder.

Back to my own department, my big boss only has a HR professional cert, without Degree or anything. Yet, she is so up high now. Her experience in HR fields is undeniably strong.
Another colleague, 10 years ago was a secretary and decided to make a change in her career life - to take up HR. She is so successful these days that she gets outstanding rating in every appraisal. Truly a known great asset to the company. She doesn't even have any proper cert to begin with...
In my department, only my boss and myself have a Degree in HR. Having said so, my boss gets to where she is today is based on her experience in various HR functional fields, her qualification is probably important but that's not really a hiring criteria.

What I said above is based on my own experience, in my company and the industry I come from - telecommunications. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not generalizing.
I'm just in my third year of working as a HR practitioner.