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TSyingxian91
post Mar 4 2011, 09:19 PM, updated 15y ago

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Hi all. biggrin.gif

I'm a STPM leaver and I'm quite interested in taking this course. However, what I've known regarding this course is very limited. First, I'm wanna ask do you guys know which private university is offering this course and it's good? And what about the job prospect in the future? I've done some digging, and looks like the course has a very bright future in the world's developed countries. But I'm not so sure its job prospect in Malaysia, biotech seems to be a very good example. Can anyone please enlighten me? Thanks. smile.gif
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post Mar 4 2011, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(yingxian91 @ Mar 4 2011, 09:19 PM)
Hi all.  biggrin.gif

I'm a STPM leaver and I'm quite interested in taking this course. However, what I've known regarding this course is very limited. First, I'm wanna ask do you guys know which private university is offering this course and it's good? And what about the job prospect in the future? I've done some digging, and looks like the course has a very bright future in the world's developed countries. But I'm not so sure its job prospect in Malaysia, biotech seems to be a very good example. Can anyone please enlighten me? Thanks. smile.gif
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You are interested in this course but what you know about it is very limited?
You think is girl? By look then you can declare interest?

If you are genuinely interested, you would have looked up what is it all about, you would have looked up which IPTS offer this. What digging have you actually done?
TSyingxian91
post Mar 5 2011, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Mar 4 2011, 11:00 PM)
You are interested in this course but what you know about it is very limited?
You think is girl? By look then you can declare interest?

If you are genuinely interested, you would have looked up what is it all about, you would have looked up which IPTS offer this. What digging have you actually done?
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Of course it's not girl. I've been watching Yale Open Course in this Biomedical Engineering. I know what's this course about. When I said what I know is very limited, I meant GOOD IPTS and JOB PROSPECT in Malaysia. My digging stated that Biomedical Engineer is one of the top ten most futuristic career in America. And I can't find the information about this Biomedical Engineering job's prospect in Malaysia. So, I thought asking in a forum where information flows freely might be a good idea, well, at least until I saw your reply. And which IPTS does say the course it offers is not good? That's why I'm requesting someone who're already working in the society in this field or students who are studying in this course to provide me some helpful information.

I don't get it. What I'm asking are views and opinions, not facts. So, everyone's might differ. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm just wanna gather some information in this forum. Thanks for the reply though. smile.gif


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You should have a list of which IPTS actually offers that. I do not know much about it, but I do know UTAR has it, and UM of IPTA has it as well.
You may consider emailing them to learn about the employment upon graduation from them. Universities do that, feedback from their graduates about where they head to.

But then, IMHO, biomedical engineering doesn't boom yet in Malaysia, and it may be like the biotechnology - a lot of people end up in further studies. We don't make MRI, we don't build artificial heart, we don't produce equipment for physiological purposes as well.
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post Mar 6 2011, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Mar 5 2011, 03:20 PM)
You should have a list of which IPTS actually offers that. I do not know much about it, but I do know UTAR has it, and UM of IPTA has it as well.
You may consider emailing them to learn about the employment upon graduation from them. Universities do that, feedback from their graduates about where they head to.

But then, IMHO, biomedical engineering doesn't boom yet in Malaysia, and it may be like the biotechnology - a lot of people end up in further studies. We don't make MRI, we don't build artificial heart, we don't produce equipment for physiological purposes as well.
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I do know Help and UTAR have it as well. UM and UTM too. But it does looks like it's not so popular yet in Malaysia. Sigh. Very disappointed. sad.gif
I will try to email them to learn about the employment to find out more. Thanks for your feedback. smile.gif
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post Mar 7 2011, 01:33 PM

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If u take stpm,try to apply to singapore unis to do biomed eng. The prospects r quite good there,
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bro..

go for it..

unimap offers biomedical electronics engineering..

prospect vv good..
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post May 13 2011, 10:26 AM

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yingxian91: so have u set ur mind whether to take biomed eng or not?


Added on May 13, 2011, 10:27 amyingxian91: so have u set ur mind whether to take biomed eng or not?

This post has been edited by dentalfloss: May 13 2011, 10:27 AM
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post May 14 2011, 04:36 AM

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no. dont take it. i took it and so far it was the most regretful decision i had ever made.

DONT DO IT.

better to take courses anybody else takes. dont take pelik2 ones. extremely hard to land job.
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post May 14 2011, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(dentalfloss @ May 13 2011, 10:26 AM)
yingxian91: so have u set ur mind whether to take biomed eng or not?


Added on May 13, 2011, 10:27 amyingxian91: so have u set ur mind whether to take biomed eng or not?
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No. Unless I got IPTA for this course. But my mind is set on pharmacy right now...

QUOTE(fyrogenesis @ May 14 2011, 04:36 AM)
no. dont take it. i took it and so far it was the most regretful decision i had ever made.

DONT DO IT.

better to take courses anybody else takes. dont take pelik2 ones. extremely hard to land job.
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Hi there. Might to elaborate more the most regretful decision? It's the job prospect?
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post May 14 2011, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(yingxian91 @ May 14 2011, 09:23 AM)
No. Unless I got IPTA for this course. But my mind is set on pharmacy right now...
Hi there. Might to elaborate more the most regretful decision? It's the job prospect?
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yea. the job prospect is not good. you can either be sales engineer or application engineer. there is no real engineering in BME field, at least in our country.
most of us can only get technician work.

yup. it was my most screwup decision..
90% of my course friends also shares the same thought.
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QUOTE(fyrogenesis @ May 14 2011, 12:07 PM)
yea. the job prospect is not good. you can either be sales engineer or application engineer. there is no real engineering in BME field, at least in our country.
most of us can only get technician work.

yup. it was my most screwup decision..
90% of my course friends also shares the same thought.
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may i ask?which year did u graduate? are you working now.? i'm taking this course now as 1st year student at UM. your opinion really scares me..huhu. cry.gif
this course is new right..even in UM.1st batch was 1997.


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post Oct 12 2011, 03:29 PM

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biomedical engineering is still too new in Malaysia, it needs some time before it takes into shape.
DO NOT see the job prospect in US... they are highly advance... same case with Biotech.. US very good prospect.. but here very low prospect.
I have a friend studying biomedical not biomedical engineering.. they learn almost the same thing with a doctor... but not the practical stuff only like treatment and surgery. and yet his prospect is in the lab doing research. the role of a biomedical grads are still very limited here in Malaysia.
As for Biomedical Engineering.. in my opinion this course will be quite tough cause u are touching medical and machines... if u ask me about prospect in Malaysia, i would say not really good cause not much research are being done in Malaysia yet. Limited companies here doing this, therefore low prospect. Even the government are not doing much research on this. well, that's my opinion only. please correct me if i'm wrong.
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QUOTE(yingxian91 @ Mar 4 2011, 09:19 PM)
Hi all.  biggrin.gif

I'm a STPM leaver and I'm quite interested in taking this course. However, what I've known regarding this course is very limited. First, I'm wanna ask do you guys know which private university is offering this course and it's good? And what about the job prospect in the future? I've done some digging, and looks like the course has a very bright future in the world's developed countries. But I'm not so sure its job prospect in Malaysia, biotech seems to be a very good example. Can anyone please enlighten me? Thanks. smile.gif
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so? r u studying biomedical engineering now?
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post Aug 27 2012, 01:14 AM

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Yes.. some forumers are significantly true.. I don't see a better prospect for biomedical engineering (BME) in Malaysia (for at least in this incoming 5 or 10 years). Slow in promoting, no advance action taken by both government (MOSTI,MOH,IPTA, BEM?) and private sector to expand the scope of this new field-in terms of jobs variaty within BME scope and branches. In Malaysia, sorry to say, the truth is hurt as hell!!! The jobs/careers are very narrow- u can work at hospital/healthcare institution as clinical engineer a.k.a. "everybody balaci" , maybe with medical equipment vendors/medical equipment principle as sales/application specialist and service engineer; or with civil engineering company/consultants that involved in hospital constructions (Vamed Engineering (M) Sdn Bhd, Health Soutions (M) Berhad). BME should be more dispersed, as describe perfectly by J.D Bronzino in his famous ed-in chief books- Biomedical Engineering Handbook (vol.1 & 2). Must-have-or-read "bible" for every modern bomedical engineer.

Sometimes, when "lepak-ing?" and sipping a cup of foaming teh tarik rclxm9.gif with a friends from other university,relatives or anybody; surely theywill asked,[/I]"Hey, what course did u take at Uni?? common responds.... HAH? What?..Biomechanical?Biochemical?What's that? where u will work? hospital meh? in lab doing research with some guinea pigs.? Common responds from hometown folks & kampung friends Fuyooo.. best la.. after graduate u will become a doctor la, am I right?. I feels, it is irritating sometimes.. to explain again and again to people around me that i'm not a doctor, nor life-scientists yawn.gif. I'm just a plain engineer. Engineer? then, why did u studying anatomy&physiology, biochemistry, tissue engineering, biotransportation etc.?lalalalala whistling.gif .. hmmm, until now when someone asking me about my degree qualification, i will get same questions and responds (and same facial expressions too cry.gif ). [I]"Haiya, what's that aah? is it new course aaa?U boleh kerja mana aaa? Dahsyat la, u ni can be a doctor la ini macam.." wahhh.. need to explain again. This is a scenario today. Many people never heard about BME. Not to blame them, believe me even an IR (Professional Engineer) also never heard of BME! Seating beside one of JKR engineer (He is civil Pro. Eng) in seminar organized by Board of Engineers Malaysia (BEM) last year, we had a small chit chat. When i said I am a biomedical engineer, i got same facial expressions agai ... and i had to briefly explained again about BME.

To be frank, I am quite "regrets" for choosing this BME course.I am biomedical engineering graduate from UM (2008). Actually, I'm more interested in biomedical engineering R&D (from conceptual/design phase of biomedical equipment/device to final product phase-manufacturing & rapid prototyping), rehabilitations studies and process, biomedical IT & telecommunications(data communications) & sports science (motion analysis, performance improvements). But the companies here in Malaysia, even MNC's not really opens and seldom accepted biomedical engineer to fulfil their ads for engineering jobs . For example, the classified ads for process/product/QA/QC/Implementation/R&D/design engineer: B.Braun, St. Jude Medical and Agilent in Penang usually just interested in candidate with manufacturing engineering background, or other engineering background with 2 years related experiences for an interview. A layman question: How to get an experience in those advertised job if u are never be selected/get a chance for an interview?

Perhaps, I should considered chemical or other classics engineering courses (electrical,mechanical, civil) those days. (Better prospects and better salary negotiations hmmm).

The BME course overall is quite "tough" during my years. It takes 5 years to complete and nearly 30 credits hours more than other engineering courses. ...And at the end of fears, oblivions!!(hehehe copying Scarecrows quote in Batman:Arkham Asylum game biggrin.gif ) at this present time I, myself feels that biomedical engineering is nothing much, seems like a 3rd class engineering in Malaysia. cry.gif

Working in private hospital as in-house biomedical engineer will takes u high level of pressure and requires superb patiences (or weeps? hehehe)..

Most of them (accounts/finance and top management team) sees that engineering maintenance dept, preferably biomedical engineering (BME) maintenance dept such a whirlpool of revenue waste! Not generating, even a cent of money to hospital income.. very sad.. furthermore, some of the hospital didn't have a proper and/or crucial biomedical equipment servicing tools (EST, patient simulator,service kit-to name a few) as supposed to be. They never want to invest in BME. Without proper tools, how to do a job? Same shit every year,already put on requests for the next year budget-biomedical engineering service instruments & tools (plus, with some economical figure-5 years ROI, ROR) but none approved!!pfffff...reallly frustating.

Situation slightly much better if working with government hospital vendor/concessions company- Radicare, Faber/Healthtronics, Advance Pact or QMS (to name a few) and private biomedical engineering management services (BEMS) such as Magna Healthcare, Services Sdn Bhd, UES/Service Master (M) Sdn Bhd. They already had a broad and many years of experiences in hospital equipment and facilities maintenance and management. Also, they always follows and aggresively implementing the new acts, standards & guidelines; not only rules & regulations by Malaysian accreditations standards bodies (SIRIM,MSQH), but worlds standards/accreditations bodies(WHO, JCI) as well. In simple words, they are always keep in the pace with global/current practices and continuously make an improvements.

~~No harm..Just from my POV and experiences...smile.gif~~

P/S: TT, I'm not discourage u for pursuing BME course. I know everybody's had their own POVs. By the way wish u luck, hope u will get better career prospects with the Degree in BME in future smile.gif . And 1 valuable thing I've learnt during my university years- university is a school for lifelong learning, live life with full of colors; some are white, some are black; and some are even darker . Grab all opportunities as u still can, doesn't matter what course you are taking; academic/degree just a piece of license; as a life line, your safe havens. Experience in university is a great teacher.

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From my POV, this field is still too new in Malaysia, maybe in US you can have better future. However, medical technology is changing very fast everyday. So it can be good and bad.
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im a BME (prosthetics and orthotics) student in UM and still finding the right path of my course. still cannot see any good in it.
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Good reply. I'm a first year student doing Biomedical engineering in Australia
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QUOTE(yingxian91 @ Mar 4 2011, 09:19 PM)
Hi all.  biggrin.gif

I'm a STPM leaver and I'm quite interested in taking this course. However, what I've known regarding this course is very limited. First, I'm wanna ask do you guys know which private university is offering this course and it's good? And what about the job prospect in the future? I've done some digging, and looks like the course has a very bright future in the world's developed countries. But I'm not so sure its job prospect in Malaysia, biotech seems to be a very good example. Can anyone please enlighten me? Thanks. smile.gif
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hi there, I'm a biomedical engineering technology student here in CUCMS (Cyberjaya University College of Medical Sciences) and if you are interested on joining us please do contact me by this address dan94dam@gmail.com. Our college is recognised by MQA and our course have partnership with University of Adellaide in Australia. This course it still new here and I would like to find some students enrolling with us. Keep in touch !
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QUOTE(thedandam @ Sep 15 2013, 04:10 PM)
hi there, I'm a biomedical engineering technology student here in CUCMS (Cyberjaya University College of Medical Sciences) and if you are interested on joining us please do contact me by this address dan94dam@gmail.com. Our college is recognised by MQA and our course have partnership with University of Adellaide in Australia. This course it still new here and I would like to find some students enrolling with us. Keep in touch !
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Hey. I'm currently finishing up my Diploma in Science from UiTM and I've been digging around for info on Biomedical engineering too and thanks to this thread I found the CUCMS. Hopefully I can apply. They want minimum cgpa 2.0 and I'm waaay above that hehe.

May I ask How was it like so far at CUCMS? unless you've already graduated since september.

Also to the OP it would be very interesting to find out what happened to you seeing as this thread is over 2 years old.

I wonder if it's possible to study here then go overseas and apply for jobs there. What do you guys think?

Oh there's also a new Board of Biomedical Engineers that I found for Malaysia here

www.beam.org.my
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QUOTE(arithmatics @ Nov 2 2013, 10:14 AM)
Hey. I'm currently finishing up my Diploma in Science from UiTM and I've been digging around for info on Biomedical engineering too and thanks to this thread I found the CUCMS. Hopefully I can apply. They want minimum cgpa 2.0 and I'm waaay above that hehe.

May I ask How was it like so far at CUCMS? unless you've already graduated since september.

Also to the OP it would be very interesting to find out what happened to you seeing as this thread is over 2 years old.

I wonder if it's possible to study here then go overseas and apply for jobs there. What do you guys think?

Oh there's also a new Board of Biomedical Engineers that I found for Malaysia here

www.beam.org.my
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I'm sorry to inform you that the course is no longer available. Well, I'm not pretty sure about that but they were planning to shut it down if they can't find more students to enroll because they can't support a course with only one student. I was the first intake to join the course and also the only one in the course. CUCMS is a great place It's still new but it's recognized by the MQA so it's good enough. They have many links to other Universities overseas and also link to jobs after graduates. Maybe you should give them a call just in case. I've withdrawn myself from the University. Missing my friends though cry.gif Yeah the thread is 2 years old, I didn't realise that when I sent a post. Sorry, mate.
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its already 2018. so the course confirm no good prospect?
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post Jun 23 2018, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Jun 23 2018, 02:42 AM)
its already 2018. so the course confirm no good prospect?
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Malaysia, no clue, was planning to study this field, apparently Malaysia's Engineering for Private Uni space doesn't offer this. So I choose to do EEE
But then if you can pioneer cheap robotics limbs already can earn a tons laugh.gif

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post Jun 23 2018, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Jun 23 2018, 10:31 AM)
Malaysia, no clue, was planning to study this field, apparently Malaysia's Engineering for Private Uni space doesn't offer this. So I choose to do EEE
But then if you can pioneer cheap robotics limbs already can earn a tons  laugh.gif
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my main concern for malysia is alwys capital
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Jun 23 2018, 10:36 AM)
my main concern for malysia is alwys capital
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Yes this, You can't start business here la.
Also I think you might need to start up company in China to do so lah.

 

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