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michaellee
post May 2 2012, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(clanzkiller @ Apr 30 2012, 12:05 AM)
Before the auction with private caveat is normal I guess. Free from encumbrances only apply after the auction where the bank will help to remove it by their own cost. Correct me if I'm wrong smile.gif. In the mid on learning.
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Bank will not pay a cent to remove any caveat whether before or after the auction. You are on your own. But high court overrules everything. If anyone else dares to enter a caveat after the auction, then they need to prove caveatable interest. The only unfortunate thing is that in Malaysia's Land office, apa apa pun boleh jadi.
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post May 6 2012, 08:14 PM

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hi, need some help here.

I ask my agent about a auction house that i plan to go, he say its freehold and not bumi or malay reserved land. but when i read the POS it states 'Sekatan Kepentingan: Tanah yang diberimilik ini tidak boleh dipindahmilik, dipajak, digadai melainkan
dengan kebenaran bertulis daripada pihak berkuasa negeri. Pegangan: Selama- lamanya' It sounds like a bumi/malay reserved lot. Is my agent trying to scam me?? btw its a high court auction.






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post May 7 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(kimi2006 @ May 6 2012, 08:14 PM)
hi, need some help here.

I ask my agent about a auction house that i plan to go, he say its freehold and not bumi or malay reserved land. but when i read the POS it states 'Sekatan Kepentingan: Tanah yang diberimilik ini tidak boleh dipindahmilik, dipajak, digadai melainkan
dengan kebenaran bertulis daripada pihak berkuasa negeri. Pegangan: Selama- lamanya' It sounds like a bumi/malay reserved lot. Is my agent trying to scam me?? btw its a high court auction.
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Is this a low or medium cost house? I don't think your agent is trying to scam you as it is a freehold and not bumi/malay reserve. And the fact that it is a high court auction, transferring to your name should be okay.
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post May 11 2012, 01:09 AM

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Michael, i am aiming for a low-medium house, leasehold. Defendant is an indian. Apparently not bumi lot. But, my lawyer said she handled a case in which an auction property from a non bumi lot, suddenly had to be transferred tobe a bumi lot. So the unfortunate non-bumi purchaser got into trouble with the deposit.

michael, is there a way i can get back my deposit if the title suddenly become under bumi quota for that Taman?

how long does it take for the transfer of the title for a leasehold property from one owner to another? 120 days enough or not?

thanks a lot. i learn things from you. done lot of homework past few days.
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QUOTE(samchloe @ May 11 2012, 01:09 AM)
Michael, i am aiming for a low-medium house, leasehold. Defendant is an indian. Apparently not bumi lot. But, my lawyer said she handled a case in which an auction property from a non bumi lot, suddenly had to be transferred tobe a bumi lot. So the unfortunate non-bumi purchaser got into trouble with the deposit.

michael, is there a way i can get back my deposit if the title suddenly become under bumi quota for that Taman?

how long does it take for the transfer of the title for a leasehold property from one owner to another? 120 days enough or not?

thanks a lot. i learn things from you. done lot of homework past few days.
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Your friend's lawyer's story a bit weird. I can only construe that it might have been a LACA case where the bidder failed to check the status of the land. And it is a bumi lot hence non transferrable to non-bumis. So I don't think a non-bumi lot can suddenly be changed to a bumi lot unless in between a bumi bought it.

I think 120 days not enough.

No problem. Always happy to share whatever little i know. Good luck in your auction quest. smile.gif
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post May 19 2012, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Apr 26 2012, 01:37 PM)
Went for my maiden auction yesterday.

I phoned up at 12 noon and he said the auction of the unit is still on and ask me to come at 2 pm to register.

When I reach the place at 2 pm, they say the auction unit is WITHDRAWN !  shocking.gif

What trick are they up to ? They should at least give 12 hour notice so we dont' waste our time buying bank draft and wasting petrol money and taking leave !

When I went that time to register, there were no buyers for other auction units but a lot of agents there waiting and sitting.

What are the agents doing there ?  hmm.gif

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Maybe last minute the owner paid up. There have been cases whereby the auctioneer is informed at the very LAST minute. Literally the instruction to call off the auction of a property could be delivered by the legal council in attendance. Of course this applies to LACA auctions and not Court auctions. Don't think court auctions could be called off that easily.

Agents get commission from banks if their client is the successful bidder. They are there to help their client as some of them are unfamiliar with the paperwork and procedures.

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post May 19 2012, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Monstar @ May 19 2012, 01:49 AM)
Maybe last minute the owner paid up. There have been cases whereby the auctioneer is informed at the very LAST minute. Literally the instruction to call off the auction of a property could be delivered by the legal council in attendance. Of course this applies to LACA auctions and not Court auctions. Don't think court auctions could be called off that easily.

Agents get commission from banks if their client is the successful bidder. They are there to help their client as some of them are unfamiliar with the paperwork and procedures.
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The problem is that the property was on auction for 6 times and nobody bidded. Why now ?
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ May 19 2012, 10:34 AM)
The problem is that the property was on auction for 6 times and nobody bidded. Why now ?
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There could be many reasons. Some valid some not so valid. Why don't you ask the banker on the spot why was it called off? They, as well as the solicitors are usually there to monitor the proceedings to ensure no hanky panky is going on.
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QUOTE(kimi2006 @ May 6 2012, 08:14 PM)
hi, need some help here.

I ask my agent about a auction house that i plan to go, he say its freehold and not bumi or malay reserved land. but when i read the POS it states 'Sekatan Kepentingan: Tanah yang diberimilik ini tidak boleh dipindahmilik, dipajak, digadai melainkan
dengan kebenaran bertulis daripada pihak berkuasa negeri. Pegangan: Selama- lamanya' It sounds like a bumi/malay reserved lot. Is my agent trying to scam me?? btw its a high court auction.
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No problem as long as its not stated as Malay reserve in the title search..
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post Jun 1 2012, 02:39 PM


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Anyone has experience with caveat?
Found one case whether the caveat was place almost same time with loan agreement... seems a bit strange.
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QUOTE(Glcotan @ Jun 1 2012, 02:39 PM)
Anyone has experience with caveat?
Found one case whether the caveat was place almost same time with loan agreement... seems a bit strange.
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Play safe don't bid.

Still want bid than get a lot cash and lawyer to un-caveat it. hmm.gif
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post Jun 1 2012, 04:32 PM

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from what i know, caveat require time to get it removed. IF the bank dont want to extend the 90-120 days period then your deposit will be forfeited unless you pay cash.

btw i got a question. is the success rate of removing any caveat 100% ????? (without waiting its expired date)

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 1 2012, 04:32 PM)
from what i know, caveat require time to get it removed. IF the bank dont want to extend the 90-120 days period then your deposit will be forfeited unless you pay cash.

btw i got a question. is the success rate of removing any caveat 100% ????? (without waiting its expired date)
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Is it right the caveat will auto expire after 3 years?
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post Jun 1 2012, 05:58 PM

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caveat will expire in 6 years.
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post Jun 1 2012, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 1 2012, 05:58 PM)
caveat will expire in 6 years.
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can anyone confirm whether caveat expires in 3 years or 6 years?

thanks...
michaellee
post Jun 2 2012, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(dream.angels @ Jun 1 2012, 07:40 PM)
can anyone confirm whether caveat expires in 3 years or 6 years?

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6 years.
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post Jun 4 2012, 11:55 AM

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i m full time agen lelong

1.0 my charges are,

a) Some bank didnt pay our commission, Public Bank, Mayban..BSN,
we chrage rm1,000 for winning bidder,

b) POS, land search, site visit agricultural land, RM50 <40km, near main road,
RM200, far inside the jungle, no access road, walking 200 m

we sold RM3.5m property by punlic auction,,all free from caveat
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QUOTE(jaafar1414 @ Jun 4 2012, 11:55 AM)
i m full time agen lelong

1.0 my charges are,

a) Some bank didnt pay our commission, Public Bank, Mayban..BSN,
    we chrage rm1,000 for winning bidder,

b) POS, land search, site visit agricultural land, RM50 <40km, near main road,
    RM200, far inside the jungle, no access road, walking 200 m

we sold RM3.5m property by punlic auction,,all free from caveat
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I always believe bank should be the one paying.
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