Hello all,

I just bought a new Toyota Camry 2.0G about 2 months ago.
Can some of the Camry 2.0G owner share with me some of the things that I am doubtful about.



1.Fuel Consumption
My car mainly travel in small town for about 10-30km a day with trafic lights, start- stop, max speed goes to 70km/h.
MID shows 6.3km/l
I have clocked only 3000 km only so far.

Is the FC ok ?

2. Auto unlock of car door when shifted in P.
Can we disable this function?

3. Lack of power... Hehe.. I think the car is a bit lack of power

4. Bumpy when go through yellow stripes.

5.Body kit, I plan to install bodykit now (not the toyota original one). What is the market price now? My car is black.

ur car still new, when ur car mileage increase u should hv better FC bro..

for auto-unlock u need to ask toyota SC, they sure can help u..

lack of power maybe coz it only 2.0 n the weight is dem heavy.. u should buy 2.4 model..

For that kind of weight, yeah, for sure it is slightly under power....
And if not mistaken, current models are only 4-speed auto tranny, which is a setback in terms of giving you good FC.
Should try to aim 10km/l, still driving habits do have a lot of difference. Start stop start stop is killing you sometimes...

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Added on February 27, 2011, 1:41 pmIf talk to comfort level, it is the only 1 that met my expectations.

This post has been edited by kyheng: Feb 27 2011, 01:41 PM

1. wait after first service and c if it get better
2. why u wana disable it? if u stationary, u should put into N and pull handbrake, not push all the way to P..
the moment u wana use P is when u ready to get off ur car which is make sense if the door unlocked at that moment
3. what can u expect from old tech engine in new body shell?
4. if camry also deemed as bumpy, the only choice u got is to get expensive contis coz camry probably is the most comfort in its class, rivaling accord, mazda 6 etc
5. no comment

well, driving a big car always do have more disadvantages on using on city.
only will see your car save on petrol while traveling on highways or any road that do not start n stop.

as the petrol wise yr car it is too early to see or determine does yr car is consuming high or low in petrol usage.
You have to see the black oil that you changed out does it have any things on it? as see the engine have any metal dust on it.

If your car is lack of power then your car maybe it is time for servicing. No need to worry too much as your car is in warranty
You may tell them your problem on it as tell them to do some tunning.

Bumpy when going through yellow stripes , as maybe you dislike the feelings of gantung or springs. You better do not do anything with it while will void the warranty.

Body kit , as you can do some modification as the price i do not know very much sorry.

You can spend some money on Rims, Japanese rims.

Somebody mentioned that you can change the auto locking/unlocking setup by having engine turned off, and have the power on engine off hold the button you want to change (setup lock hold lock, setup unlock hold unlock) for few seconds then crank the engine if succeed the door will no longer lock/unlock as default. To restore do the same again.

If 3000km done, should be done the first service, so.... Is the driving habits....

as a reference, my 2009 accord does 650km per 60L, thats almost 11km/l mixed city highway

But our friend is more on city with frequent start stop, so I think it is normal.... Getting your car to have optimum FC, the RPM shall not fluctuate a lot.....

in fact, the rpm in accord fluctuate alot due to 5 speed gearbox.. even in housing area the rpm easily reach 3k to have decent speed..
mine is also more on city, only once in a while take mex but that also at 180~200km/h during wee hour

So, which is heavier, Accord or Camry? Hope the new Camry have new tech on tranny....

camry cannot corner one... but straight line comfort vr good...

accord lighter, curb weight at 1475kgs while camry 1530kgs..
and accord is bigger than camry in term of interior space.. thats the reason why i choose accord lol

Where's the glory of Toyota? Last time their suspension system are superior than other brands.... But ever since entered the VVTI era, no more people mention this already....

last time??.... oh u mean that hachiroku....

The 1.6SEG, those old LEs that still standing strong on the road and not forgetting the Camry 2.2GX.... Any models except VVTIs.....

hi all,
tq for the ans. any of u is camry owner?

answering some question on accord vs camry, to be honest with you i bought this car together with my good buddy. Bott of us were hard core accord fan.... i cant afford it but he can.... anyway.. to cut the story short..... we went to test drive both cars, he then placed a order for camry... 2 days later i followed his foot step..

Why camry?
A: handlig is supperior but very bumpy
C: more comfy ride

service interval
A: 5k km
C: 10 k km

HID light
A: no for VTIL
C: YEs for G

rear ac vent
A: rear passensger cant get the blow...bcus its pointed downward.
C: Ok

toyota suspensions are never impressive. even their top of the line supras (since 20+ yrs ago) are already bad at cornering.

^Well, I mean comfort... Sorry, never stated that, my bad.....

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Added on February 27, 2011, 7:14 pmMy neighbour is.... Anyway, new car or you bought second hand? If new car, better make sure you check your battery's health when reach 20 months... It usually will fails on you about 2 year.
So, keep a jumper cable on stand by... Other than that, nothing much, just Toyota is not my cup of tea... But if older models(pre-VVTI), yes.
Bumpy ride maybe due to tyre, check the pressure....


This post has been edited by kyheng: Feb 27 2011, 07:14 PM

bro if you want comfort throw those Bridgestone away... the tire is not for comfort... frankly u can try Toyo C1S for better comfort the grip is nice and comfort too...

Oh no!!! Tyre master has spoken.... Haha... But if new then better use it until botak first, sinc the price increase for another 8% again...

limit your throttle input. i saved rm10 petrol a week by doing that.
slow nevermind but as long as u save fuel. besides the car will eventually get up to speed if u keep at that low throttle. only slow acceleration.

totally agree with you... u need to use to it.... my old toy (13 yrs old) 1.6L using 40 litter petrol for 300+ km only...


no tyre master but some ppl just don understand how a tire will affect the ride quality, handling, braking distance and also cabin noise...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Feb 27 2011, 08:54 PM

In terms of highway FC... Camry still loses to Accord 2.0 5-speed AT. I got over 830km @ RM 120 of Shell RON95.

I would have bought a Camry 2.0G if the Toyota salesman have been nicer to me. Damn arrogant and rude. Did u notice my Honda hire more girls in the sales department? Try checking out Honda @ Mofaz in TTDI.

Bro,
tq for the tips. I guess I wont be changing it first... rugi man!

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Added on February 27, 2011, 9:05 pmAgree! Car salesboy r rude! Girls r cute.. hehehe lol

This post has been edited by johnrck99: Feb 27 2011, 09:05 PM

well it is up to you... have a few AW forummer changed their tires just after 1~2 months... of course have to fork out another few hundreds to swap to new tires but at least it meet your requirement...
i changed the NCT5 (98% new when installed) come with the 2nd hand rims for only 1 yr and did not even mnage to clock 20k km from it... really have to throw it away as it's wet grip sucks that is dangerous...
then changed my 14" CC1 even have more than 40% of thread... really cannot stand the grip it gives and the common problem (bilateral offset) on the tires...
it depends on individual...

Bridgestone tires on Toyota does not perform la... u thought Potenza they give you is good meh... just entree level for performance and it's sidewall is hard so got some ppl complaint y toyota suspension is hard... by right is just the tires... haha

well girls more easy to get sales kua... btw a lot of sales (car) did not even know their product spec properly one... so better do homework and test drive, then make decision yourself...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Feb 27 2011, 09:18 PM

Bro, smart move! NCT5 is rubbish! my vios used to run on it and then i changed to michelin XM1, good!
I see ur profile pic is altis, u also own an altis?

Usually tyre that come from new car are by bulk... So, the quality are a ???? Because they need to make profit, so they won't give a good set of tyre.

haha that is an Altis Hatchback... from Aus... the photo i put there years ago... they called it Altis Sportivo 200HP on stock

not the matter of coming in bulk or not... is the cost... recently they switch back to Bridgestone, the tire's comfortness sucks... so choose your own tires...

Well, if you can save rm100 extra from the tyres, you are actually making rm100 extra profit...
I will even change my rim + tyres when it is still new. Got some extra value when doing this...

they will use what tire which offered to them cheaper... like Proton Inspiria, CC5 is like good cars with entree level tires...

Well, this happen evert where, basically...

What can you expect from Camry 2.0 147hp. It is a car tuned towards ride quality rather than performance.

If you ask about performance, based on my father '09 Accord, I can tell that the Accord 2.0 can easily tapau Camry 2.0 from 0-190km/h ++. Oso Camry can't take corner as hard as Accord could. I oso tested that Accord can also tapau Teana & Sonata. Ride comfort of Accord is also good. Damn nice this car. When i'm old enough i'll surely going to buy this Accord.

are you sure accord ride comfort is good haha... well you still have things to learn...

ur dad's accord did not tapau nasi lemak, roti canai or yong tau foo??

I have an '08 2.0 Accord bought in 09. While ride quality is marvelous... the NVH (outside noise) is terrible! Had to do sound proofing after buying it.

good handling but ride comfortness i still doubt a lil... i feel humps and bumps easily although it is on a comfort tires, can't imagine if it was on a performance (harder) tires... especially the rear passenger if long journey and bumpy ride then u know

soundproofing materials for whole car cost less than RM350 u know?
Haha
duno why many ppl got ripped off pay 2k++ .
If u noe how DIY + find direct distributor, any car also can sound very comfortable with proper soundproofing.
Not japanese nor continental car only.

This post has been edited by heavenly91: Feb 28 2011, 10:00 PM

In my opinion I think the Camry has a better ride comfort due to softer springs/absorber combination. Accord is a bit towards performance and sports mode hence the suspension is a little stiffer

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Added on February 28, 2011, 10:00 pmThere are many types of sound proofing materials in the market. It's not that those paying RM2K+ is getting ripped but it's a different product altogether. What you pay is what you get

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Feb 28 2011, 10:00 PM

Well, there's people willing to spend that amount of money.... Atleast they can boast around that their throat was being slaugther.... People now go for branding rather than quality... Even with the fact that the branded are actually help a little bit....

the bigger the car CC, the FC will be bad when in city driving, No doubt about that and no matter how light your foot is, it will never have good FC.

That's why CVT with sports mode and shift tronic will help sometimes.

I'm not saying that it has best ride comfort. But for me the ride is okay & handling best in-class. So it offers best of both worlds.

Drove d 2.0G Camry a couple of months back. Personally, I feel that d 2.3 would make more sense due to its weight if it was not for d rd tax. D 2.0 frankly is merely sufficient but d 4-speed auto does cope rather well.

Compared to the equivalent Accord, Toyota r more inclined towards comfort while Honda's engine edges slightly ahead with sportier suspension setup.

Bro, 2.3 or 2.4? I think is more on typo error.
Anyway, 4 speed auto is just like Proton Wira's older 3-speed auto tranny models, won't be FC friendly... Hope Toyota Malaysia will bring in 2.5 models which is having 6-speed...
http://www.toyota.com/camry/features.html

Yikes. Yup my typo, should b 2.4.

But I do hv a strong feeling d next Camry would b at least 5-speed since it is behind d crowd in terms of technology advancement .

I find that the Honda Accord is damn noisy above 110km/h. IMO the Camry is much better.

While every brand going for 6-speed, Toyota still 1 step behind? What's the meaning of "Mowing Foward"? This is more on moving backwards.

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Added on March 1, 2011, 4:22 pmCheck the rubber seals..... Usually is because of the this.

This post has been edited by kyheng: Mar 1 2011, 04:22 PM

Sometimes it's due to tyres. If the car is using performance tyres then obviously it'll be noisier.

My sister's car. Everything is still stock. Will check the seals.

Btw, noise level is also very subjective

yup depend on personal NVH..

Cabin noise is higher for accord vs camry at various speed. This starts from 60km/h and above.

yeah, those CVT with those 7speed helps a lot compared to conventional 4spd gb

And I will use the "manual mode" during jams to prevent it to fail faster....

Accord ride is horrible, I tested Camry and Accord in the same day before deciding for camry. No doubt accord is nicer to drive.. power wise, I cant comment as it is Accord 2.4 unit that I tested.

My replies below in bold.

Y resurrect a 3 year old thread??

lucky you have D segment, have u try B segment? like vios or city you will know the comfort is not there so so only

I riding on a 2.4v, MYy average FC as below, is it normal?
8-9km/L (100% city drive)
9-10km/L (50% city drive , 50% HW)
10-11km/L (100% HW)

My HW drive FC kinda not good. FYI, i light footed.

I-bryan

Seriously 9-10km/L (50% city drive , 50% HW) ?

I still thinking to buy a second hand 2.0G wo...

10km/l is normal for d segment.
you want less fuel consumption? go for lighter car and smaller cc engine.

do u still used your camry? I'm planned to get one 2nd hand model.

Is it true cornering not so good?

How about install ultra racing bar for stabilizer?

and install iridium spark plug?

so far i know early camry using normal spark plug

This post has been edited by putera7: Apr 27 2015, 02:39 PM

the xv40 camry is using iridium spark plug. change every 100k.

agree. at higher speeds and rpm, the engine roar is more obvious in the Accord

Camry is a regular family sedan focused on comfort, so Camry and good cornering are never expected in the same thing.
You may need to do many things to improve its cornering capability, UR bars is one of them (especially anti-roll bars). Others are change suspension (springs & dampers) to stiffer ones, change rims to slightly bigger (17') but lighter ones and certainly change tires to high performance ones (UHP class tires). By doing those you should improve the cornering quite much, however expect the comfort level to be reduced a bit after all these done.

Spark plugs is already using iridium type as std.

anyone know does this camry rear seat can be fold especially G spec?

Why buy a car and try to make it do something it was never designed to do? Suspension and chassis capability isn't something that could be improved merely by installing bars and tightening nuts. You need new springs and dampers and etc which would cost a bomb, and that would've made the purchase irrelevant in the first place. Worst, you will hardly get the right tuning after spending a bomb on those upgrades. Get the right car is a way better idea.

The latest 2012 camry rear seat cannot fold. Only a small hole from the center arm rest to take things in the boot.

how about 2007/2008 model?

so sad RM100k plus car cant fold down seat. so whats the meaning of family sedan...so weird toyota

Fuh! And sacrifice the speed you can fly over the bumps with a stock camry?

I had to slow down to get over some bumps at around 20++kph and those camry don't even see the brake lights come on and flies over it at an much faster than i do.

Folding seats create rattling noise after a while la. Why you need to fold the entire seat down anyways?

Many people say cornering is not so good for toyota camry. I think is depending on the drivers skill. Both my relatives who are driving 2nd camry (2.0 and 2.4) can corner at very high speed without much hassle. There was one time i sat in his 2.0 camry. He was speeding pretty fast and tailgating all the way while playing Clash of Clans, lol.. And i am aware that his car dont even have VSA. Sitting in his car is like sitting in a sports car instead of a comfort car.

family man with more than 3 kids must have this function..at least for me..

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This post has been edited by putera7: May 6 2015, 01:38 PM

Family man and performance (especially cornering performance) has little to no relationship. You would hate to see your 3 kids slip and sliding from one side to the other on your rear view mirror when you are driving isn't it?

As for the folding seats. I am not sure what is the use of it. But, you have your valid reasons i believe. Unfortunately, if Toyota don't see a reason for it. You are going to get stuck with it.

The Fiesta (normal variant) can take a corner at higher speeds with less understeer than a Camry anyday. If that doesn't help you redefine the word "sports car" in your dictionary, i can't help any further.

Driving like a hooligan in public roads do not make the car transform into a sports car. If that is the case, we have plenty of sport cars on the road like Myvi, City, Mazda 3, Vios, etc.

Naah stock Camry will still need to slow down quite a bit approaching speed bumps. If want to fly over speed bumps then get one of Kadajawi favorite cars, a Citroen.
For me I have no issue slowing down a lot for speed bumps coz I don't encounter many of them anyway.

I'm a family man too but I must have a car with quite good cornering capability coz most of the time I'm driving alone anyway. My boys also are getting big already (>10yrs old) so they in fact can enjoy a bit of fast cornering too as long as it's not too wild.

Folding seats are used to carry long objects. I found it very useful when I use my car to move to another house.

50++ over a bump is already quite champion for me. I don't need it any faster.

Everyone's definition of good cornering capability and wildness is very different. So, i am not going to argue on that.

But, is the stock Camry going to understeer if you barrage into a gentle turn at 50kph, i doubt not. Can it go through turn 5 and 6 in SIC at 150k? Maybe yes, maybe no. But it isn't a selling point of the car anyways and how often do you find yourself carrying so much speed into a turn. Point is, it might be tame for some and it might be enough for others. It's not build to be a racer in the first place.

As for carrying bulky stuff. Yes, it is one of the uses of a seat folding down. But, how often does that happen? Even if you just count trips to ikea that involves doing that. Then, as i said. You can't get the best of both worlds as there is possibility of the seats rattling sometime in the future when things start to come a bit loose.

Maybe Toyota already knew how the boot space was designed that it will be rather pointless to have a folding seat as a high bumper line might obstruct long objects from going in easily. I am not sure, but i am just stating the possibility why they did what they did.

But again, they have the balls to take off the VSC for no reasons. So, they might have just done it to get on your nerves. Who knows?

This post has been edited by nm7: Apr 30 2015, 11:20 AM

actually same model with 2.4 v does have VSC.

2.4v Year 2006 Register 2007 damm still expensive...

until now then Toyota give Camry 2.0G spec with VSC...

Regarding the auto unlock at P, i wouldnt like that too

If i just park my car, i would need to off engine and take things and check surrounding before getting out

Now if i shift to P and anyone can open the car door ?