Fuh! And sacrifice the speed you can fly over the bumps with a stock camry?

I had to slow down to get over some bumps at around 20++kph and those camry don't even see the brake lights come on and flies over it at an much faster than i do.

Folding seats create rattling noise after a while la. Why you need to fold the entire seat down anyways?

Family man and performance (especially cornering performance) has little to no relationship. You would hate to see your 3 kids slip and sliding from one side to the other on your rear view mirror when you are driving isn't it?

As for the folding seats. I am not sure what is the use of it. But, you have your valid reasons i believe. Unfortunately, if Toyota don't see a reason for it. You are going to get stuck with it.

50++ over a bump is already quite champion for me. I don't need it any faster.

Everyone's definition of good cornering capability and wildness is very different. So, i am not going to argue on that.

But, is the stock Camry going to understeer if you barrage into a gentle turn at 50kph, i doubt not. Can it go through turn 5 and 6 in SIC at 150k? Maybe yes, maybe no. But it isn't a selling point of the car anyways and how often do you find yourself carrying so much speed into a turn. Point is, it might be tame for some and it might be enough for others. It's not build to be a racer in the first place.

As for carrying bulky stuff. Yes, it is one of the uses of a seat folding down. But, how often does that happen? Even if you just count trips to ikea that involves doing that. Then, as i said. You can't get the best of both worlds as there is possibility of the seats rattling sometime in the future when things start to come a bit loose.

Maybe Toyota already knew how the boot space was designed that it will be rather pointless to have a folding seat as a high bumper line might obstruct long objects from going in easily. I am not sure, but i am just stating the possibility why they did what they did.

But again, they have the balls to take off the VSC for no reasons. So, they might have just done it to get on your nerves. Who knows?

This post has been edited by nm7: Apr 30 2015, 11:20 AM