im kinda fed up with this whole bullshit internet providers in malaysia. Its f**** pathetic man..shit seriously.. evryone over here gets mad happy if they can get their latency to 200ms wtf? you call that good?
i dont know..if 200ms is the best that it gets over here in malaysia, than that just tells me, average is 300ms and it will get worse when ur raiding.
i use to play in the states at a latency of 70ms-80ms, and when it rains or whatver, the worst it get is up to 95ms or so, and after 1-2 hrs it dec. back.
and in the morning, i find my latency to be 40-45ms always.
im just fed up and angry and my country malaysia for being wack like this.. how can you arena seriously when ur lagging like that?..
im just asking all you guys out there.. anyone play WoW seriously? with a good latency? is there a way to bring down that 200ms lower? its just that, before iget back in WoW, i just wanna make sure everythings right you know?
thanks. and for background info, im living at pj, well established neighbourhood..i think..it should be lol..

(ps dont flame or get pissed..thers a fine line between causing an argument and speaking ur opinion, be civil. i dont care how good you are, and all your repo's, im just interested in your knowledge in this latency problems, thats all!..)
thank you.

err.. correct me if I'm wrong.

But isn't it a common knowledge that there is no way to go below 200ms for Wow US servers for players half way across the world?

This has nothing to do with malaysia/streamyx. Even if they give u really 100mbps line, live in menara telekom, ur dad is a PM or w/e, you are and will stuck in 200ms and above. Unless you create and build some super super cable that could transfer data half way across the world within 0.01seconds.

Live with it, be glad to get 200-300ms. I'm more than glad to play 200ms without lag or spikes. you only get 2 digit ms if u live near the servers.

Raiding and ok, I don't pvp much but even if I do, latency was never the problem. Either I suck or that guy is really good. I only play arena for points, not top ladder. But this is based on my view only, I'm not speaking for whole malaysians And maybe because the fact I've never experienced 2 digit latency. I used to be able to play at 1k ms. Tthen slowly stable internet, I played average 500-800ms. Then now pampered with tunnels, I get constant 210-250ms. Asking me to go back 500ms is no way... HOW ON EARTH I EVER RAIDED WITH 500MS?! Nowadays I'll loose my mood or get sleepy if I see 500ms )

Pretty much the only thing most malaysians rant about is the spikes or lags courtesy from our beloved streamyx

sign up Wow Taiwan for lower latency.


There is an alliance guild that has a number of Malaysian plus other countries. They converse using English, and it is possible to play with english US client.



So far yet to see a Horde group for Wow Taiwan.

blame malaysia for what..blame blizz for not opening oceanic server in OCEANIC.

still, blaming TMNut is the smarter choice...

or you could blame the oldest troll r*is y*tim for not keeping his promise...

i blame instant




since yesterday

i know i did a HUGE LOAD of mistakes including not cleansing, not pillar abusing, not healing, not cc, not staying out of tha fire, not assisting fights, lagging, jumping around, playing sudoku during arena, nose picking and wipe them on my lil brother's shirt

BUT I DIDN'T CAUSE THE LATENCY!!!!

play on wow taiwan.

ping around 100ms - 250ms average without using any tunnelers

if use tunneling, can be 50ms i heard.

use tunnel the best i can get is 9x -130ms
but use p1, holly sxxt 200ms even thru tunnel..... XD

lol . 200 ms still complain . ? this is the ping after we pay for the proxy servies lol.

2digit latency to wow us in msia , i dont think this is possible

Latency is influenced by geographical distance to server and routing.

Even if you have the most optimised route to the servers, you won't be seeing anything less than three digit latency as the servers are halfway across the world.

There have been talks and rumors to localize wow servers in australia and singapore, and there's also this but so far these plans have not materialize as blizzard deems them too cost ineffective and inviable.

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Feb 24 2011, 11:25 AM

so, therefore, best immediate solution is to play on wow taiwan!

for 200 consider silky smooth in malaysia, but i've never expected to get that without tunnel...

as long as im in Yellow or Green bar, im happy with it and good to play...

as well as lag spike, then no complain...

200 ms is very good for wow US, usually with tunneling services. But i doubt u can get 200ms consistently with wow US, u will usually get spike here and there, especially when dungeon / raid time.

Im sorry for u and i have been through the same dilemma as u. And nothing much u can do about it, maybe u want to try the Unifi service by TM.

To the TS, if u knew mandarin, one of the way is to go for wowtaiwan as suggested by Deimos, which i am getting 100 ms averagely.

WOWtaiwan is simply the Most cost effective and best latency for WOW in Malaysia

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Feb 24 2011, 01:10 PM

even unifi also dint get you 2 digit latency lol .

my latency is killing me,around 2k on raid..i really dont know what is the cause.the least i could do is to change my ip range, but sadly not to avail until today

"As of July 2010, the 'official' definition of Broadband Internet (per the FCC) is '4Mbps downstream and 1Mbps upstream'. Anything lower than this is not 'officially' broadband." Maybe this is the reason?

Instant,
you lag IRL
( that what they used to say )

does TM follow that definition?

don't think that rule apply to malaysia TM,
i mean, few years ago MCMC(Malaysian Communications And Multimedia Commission)
on newspaper acknowledge and comfirm TM is lagging behind "world standard"
and TM did nothing at that time, didn't think they even respond to that.

National Broadband Plan (United States) aim for 100 Mbit/s service,
while our National Broadband Initiative (Malaysia) got between 5 and 20 megabits per second(our "pride" HSBB service)

or there is nothing they can do about it,
i mean they don't like the rotten egg we throw at them everyday, flame/bombing their call-help services

they don't have enough fund
i mean malaysian RM is smaller now, thing are more expensive,
they always send expert in the field and send them to other country like korea, US, Eng, etc. see how other country works
(along with non related in the field but related in families to other country like korea, US, Eng, etc. see how other country landscape)

we(the whole world) live in a goblin world
anything is money,
you want better connection, more money.
want to live healthier, more money.

najib said we are going to be a developed country in newspaper
that mean we are on track,
but currently not yet(aka still lagging behind)
we are making move, replacing copper wire with fiber-optic
just we are not there(real HSBB) yet
(^ i said something good , ISA don't throw me ito cell please)

This post has been edited by Imbecile: Feb 24 2011, 07:16 PM

After playing both wow US and wow Taiwan,



I understand the dilemma of many who dont understand mandarin, (which i do understand, but i prefer English, since that is what i am using daily, and having trouble interpreting Chinese words as fast as English).

What i am suggesting is, if we have enough of our own gamers even in wowtaiwan, the language problem will be minimize since gamers can actually get things accomplish without depending to PUG / trade. (English client to play wowtaiwan is one of the way)

That's sort like the project im working on with this guild in wowtaiwan. I'm trying to work on a English literate guild where even ppl who having problem with mandarin can actually enjoy wowtaiwan, with all its benefits (affordability and latency)

Not to sound like an advertisement, do check out the link below at my signature, for more details.

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Feb 24 2011, 08:48 PM

blizz should just combine wow oceanic with wow taiwan and have two type of wow...

wow with chinese community and all realm under oceanic. therefore only need 1 place for server.

i dun wanna see 'nihao' getting spammed in trade chat...

feels like being in geld seller's paradise...

tbh, there are 3 types of WoW, you need to count in the ever-lagging-behind WoW china

no it like...wow oceanic 1 community n wow taiwan another 1. just the server location is in the same place.

anyone notice a VERY significant latency spike to 10k plus after 2130? this morning my latency was at a constant 330. at 2100 was 400. it has been happening in my area (kota kemuning) quite often. fyi, my ip hasnt changed and still remain 110.159.**.***
my wow server is in NY.

bad idea, well... sorta

i read somewhere about the service provider held few millions account hostage when they went emo about blizz's ToC... doing such would be giving the providers another round of abuse...

bad idea. i much prefer the billing system of wow taiwan, not wow US or wow EU etc.

The nihao comment is just ppl misconception on wowtaiwan / wowchina, ppl exegerate and i dont see how wow US is anyway better than wowtaiwan in this regards. Gold seller is bound to exist in the game, in regardless of wowUS, EU, Tw or China.

And also, the nihao movie is suggesting the state of gold farmer in wowUS, so i dont see it in anyway related to wowtaiwan. Just because nihao is pinyin for Chinese word doesn't means it only happen in wowtaiwan. Gold farmer is everywhere.

U sure wow oceanic server and wowtaiwan server at the same place?

The last time i check wow oceanic is at US, and since i can connect to wowtaiwan at much much better latency, i would assume wowtaiwan is not at US? Im not computer geek and i might be wrong tho, feel free to correct me.

Cheers

be grateful la..

it just a suggestion la...of course la oceanic in us n wowtaiwan in taiwan...aiya

IC, maybe they should just allow one US realm server in taiwan, so ppl in this region can enjoy better latency.

/agree

low latency but keeps disconnected whenever i join battle grounds...

TMNut dudes might miss my superb foul/ swearing languages and wanted to listen to it again

Same here. Could be due to traffic shaping affecting QoS and may or may not be at TM's end. Post here so that Blizzard gets it.

Blizzard Consolidated Latency

Bro you are lucky enough to get 200ms. Usually the latency in malaysia is around 300-500 ms.

Yes and i go agree Streamyx really sucks, try getting urself a tunneling service

2xx ms is the best in msia lol

You may want to put a * at the back of your statement because the above statement is not applicable to wowtaiwan in msia

But ya
2xxms is pretty good e.g. for wow US

with tunneling, wow taiwan can be 50ms yo.

without tunneling, can be playable at around 100ms yo I LIKE IT

i join taiwan wow already, the ping is damn nice w/o tunneling around 70ms-100ms, planning to get a tunneling then start farm arena when i reach 85lvl

ya i know . is for US .

wow player in msia majority still at US sever not taiwan

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This post has been edited by hidden830726: Mar 3 2011, 01:15 PM

Buy a very long cable (preferably several thousand miles long), swim across the Pacific Ocean, ask blizzard if you could plug in your cable to one of their server ports, swim back, log in to your wow and now you can enjoy lower latency.

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Mar 3 2011, 01:45 PM

Lol that would be so awesome !! no more lags or spike

better move your ass into blizzard server room and camp there.

haha dont forget to bring lolipop haha

This friend of mine who plays on Thaurissan US from the UK, she says she's getting an average of 150ms.
But yea, geographical distance does play a huge part in your latency.

KL to US West: 13879 km
London to US West: 8599 km

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Mar 7 2011, 01:53 PM

For me, latency is not the major problem, 300-400 ms in US with tunnel is definitely playable,

We can adjust our response to in sync the latency delay. Look at Malaysia dota scene, we are use to lag dota wheher online or ggclient

The major problem is the spike.

Malaysia ISP always suffer from spike illness when in a demanding environment, such as raid.

All pvp situation where, one simple spike will lose u the game.

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Mar 7 2011, 01:55 PM

well, TMNut likes to use fish food to repair the cables instead of REAL material

lol

i think we spike in 5man as well.

A major earthquake just hit Tokyo, Japan hours ago. Brace yourselves for yet another damaged cable announcement from TM.

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Mar 11 2011, 04:30 PM

Answer: Is to play wowtaiwan.

Although this will solve the latency problem, but then other problem arise. E.g. Language barrier, re-leveling etc

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Mar 11 2011, 07:16 PM

I play on WoW US no problem, wanted to get unifi but decided it wasn't worth it just for WoW, then found a tunnel which helped a lot. No more lag while raiding/instancing. So it's very smooth and no more cursing streamyx nowadays.

yeah streamyx + proxy services cheaper alot . compare to unfi

some afer have unfi also need proxy services lol .

let put it this point, due to geographical issues, you should be faithful to get around 200-400ms (with/without tunnel) depending on the routine.

as some reported 60.x.x.x ip is good for wow us, some claims that 175.x.x.x, and even some claims that 218.x.x.x.

All this somehow matters but the key concerns is the connection from your pc to wow server, how's the routine? what we know as tracert... and deeply navigate into the path to the server will futher improve your latency.. (that u have to depends on your so call isp)

your comp --> tm internet routine (dslam/bras etc) --> routine to us --> at&t internal routine --> wow server

OR

your comp --> tm internet routine (dslam/bras etc) --> routine to us --> peering point --> continue route to us --> at&t internal routine --> wow server


malaysia jalan always traffic jam.. now internet also jam... lols

**peering point is the key for better wow latency, and its depends from your connections.**

Forget about how many hops from your comp to wow server, 1 or 2 extra doesnt matter much if stable.. if you get 10 hops to wow servers but have a peering point, connection ahead it might be an issue.

**anyways, if we got you@1malaysia email for RM50bil(might increase blah blah.. and money to? we know) might as well improve malaysia's international bandwidth

This post has been edited by ctandk: Apr 20 2011, 09:46 AM

Would anyone be interested if I post comparison between UniFi and Streamyx

Comparison as in latency performance wise ?? If yes, then I'm interested to know.

yeah i want to know too .

some my proxy cust using Unifi also lol .

yes like ctandk say . it really depend geographical issues on the latecny u get for wow US .

some ip range give good route to WOW US .

like me using range 175.xx + proxy . 230 ms stable most of the time . NO spike

other ip range depend on time , perk hour . etc

if you using streamyx just pray u get a good ip range . hehe

This post has been edited by nagflar: Apr 20 2011, 01:39 PM

that will be greaty appreciated..


if we can get 200ms+ without much spike, for malaysia to us datacentre, its above satisfaction level.

believe not? most us residence getting latency around 50ms+, some of them even got 100ms-200ms (that us to us datacentre)..

personally i using 175.x.x.x and 218.x.x.x range of streamyx 4mbps, i find it amazing standing around 220ms+ sometime peak 300ms+ (never above 330ms) without tunnel.[, gaming experience much awesome, never have any ingame spike (for 25man raid)..

if you having spike frequently, try indentify the point to us datacentre that causes you the spike. best to indentify while playing.

then select an most idealogy tunnel host for you, latency might be 30-60ms higher, but routine more stable.

would be better then another idiot posting about how he's lagging so badly...

since you so smart . why dont u post it ?

because im not facing any problems, thats why i do not need to. as if help you get free data for your vpn

lol , free data can get form google . la

if u smart enough u can get everthing form it

really? can you get 1million usd and a free ferrari from google?

why not ppl become rich because of google adword , google adsense, etc



google la my friends dont be lazy .

the outside world is bigger than wow World !!

This post has been edited by nagflar: Apr 20 2011, 04:44 PM

agree

Blizzard already said it was way too expensive to set up a server here
And I kinda agree because bandwidth is way too overpriced here in this part of the world.

Ask ASEAN banks how much they pay for dedicated bandwidth for their services.

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Apr 20 2011, 08:40 PM

how many sea+aus people playing in oceanic servers? if not above 2million like korea or taiwan then its a sure waste of money and time for opening servers in that region

a server in singapore will be awesome, cheaper cost and better bandwidth.

but the expertise to monitor that...

wtb 50ms ingame latency....

join WOW TW .

When the most likely server provider would be... *gasp* SMM... no.

Their SCII server was fail enough last time I checked, and I doubt that changed.

dont know how to read chinese dude... or else i would come..

Use US client and change the realmlist.wtf to taiwan gateway and viola, you're playing WoW TW with 99% english, tho the 1% will be the communications.

And to people out there who think Unifi will beat streamyx in terms of latency performance, wake up dude, higher mbps doesn't give you better latency, and online game doesn't require more than 384kbps! (for single user)

This post has been edited by kEazYc: Apr 21 2011, 05:08 PM

For those who having major lag try using laglessproxy it really helps out alot.

http://www.laglessproxy.com/

Before this i keep having problem like having 4-5k latency and i keep calling TMNut for solution. They send me a contractor over to my place and told me your cable to old already thats y slow.

You need to change your cable for RM 400 -,-", lucky got some lyn members pm me call me to try out lagless proxy and it works.

Btw got 200ms already consider good, dont complain already is more pain when u get latency like 2k-5k ms everyday....

This post has been edited by Derrecklim: Apr 22 2011, 11:52 AM

How much is that? I used to use PingFaster cause it was free, but now I believe it has closed down.

Switched to HighPingBuster now

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Apr 23 2011, 04:39 PM

i was playing wow tw server 战歌 for 4yrs and counting...

another HPB user here.

Getting bad vibes about HPB now. I am getting sudden lag spikes every now and then and the putty client would sometimes CTD

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Apr 25 2011, 05:54 PM

Come to our server and check out our guild.

we are close to 90 level 85 atm.

Check my signature for links if u need more details.

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Added on April 26, 2011, 11:04 pmAnd ya, the single most effective way of lowering the latency is to play at wowtaiwan.

The most direct and effective way.

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Apr 26 2011, 11:04 PM

yes please

I'm having constant green bar now since new patch

There is a new option in your interface(cant remember exact name)

So far i tested 10man raids and 5man random heroic/za/zg all stable green ping

Using Unifi btw

Same with Streamyx.

how come new patch will get u better latency ?

Got a box to tick in options now to optimize latency. I at work now cant check for you whats it called

I think it only works in dungeons/raids.

go to game menu - option - network - optimize network for speed.

by default this option is tick . but i find out if un tick this option i get more stable connnection . less disconnect also .

how about you guy ?

This post has been edited by nagflar: Apr 30 2011, 12:57 AM

My latency improved greatly (constant 200-220ms) when I have that option ticked.

yeah right..it cant do anything when your 4mbps line dropped to 500kbps!

Eh ... after I ciao'ed a year ago during wotlk and now back for cata ... for some reason use gamepath/highpingbuster also 400ms ... wtf hmmm. (without is 600-700ms).