For AIDS almost 99% YES, although there is an opinion that it might spread via membrane mucosa, such from Saliva, or oral sex...but my lecturer said it almost safe.

and that's why people who are HIV positive still can have Sex, and can marry..no problem!

only problem is to getting a child though..but there is an option for adoption

Wear condom can prevent from this??

Wear condom can prevent from this??

wow.. i just knew about the sperm washing. it might be expensive right? 

rac3r,

why you still dont get it ? the test that is supposed to test you for HIV is actually not testing you for HIV at all. They are just testing you for "HIV antibodies", but why do we need to get scared when we have antibodies agaomst HIV ? 

above all, there's currently NO GOLD STANDARD of testing, because it is an illusion for all of us that HIV is yet to be proven exist. Attached is the interview with Dr Rodney Jerkins, one of first few scientists who are involved in the HIV Test creation collaboration with Abbot Laboratories

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/mcinterviewrr.htm
if the public arent willing to be open minded about this, and instead choose to FOLLOW THE FEAR AND STIGMA, then a lot of lives will be lost. We cant swallow everything that have been told to us, seriously, unless your life is for the pharma's profit...then go ahead. But believe me, by the time anyone who are already in the doctor's treatment, once the modern medical science said to them, im sorry you only have 6 more months to live and there's nothing we can do about it....dont feel being cheated.

rac3r,

you does not seem to have grasped the difference between sensitivity and specificity. The problem with HIV tests is specificity - they have never been properly correlated with the presence or absence of HIV infection, so they are inherently invalid. You seem to be under the impression that antibodies that these tests detect are specific. Go to www.virusmyth.net, look at the section on HIV tests.

and also this question : why should you be scared when your body already have anti-body against HIV ?

oh by the way, I would like to also inform you about a study that was being undertaken by Dr Roberto Giraldo. The current HIV Test needs to dilute the blood samples of the people by 400 times, with certain chemicals. What happens is that when the chemicals are being added, our blood will produce retroviruses. Some people will produce more, some people will produce a lot..that is why the HIV Test dont measure YES you have HIV (POSITIVE/RE-ACTIVE) or NO you dont have HIV (NEGATIVE/NON-REACTIVE)...instead if you have it HIGH enough, then you are POSITIVE/RE-ACTIVE, else if you have low quantities, you will be NEGATIVE/NON-REACTIVE.

What is shocking ( and eventually really proves that HIV test is meaningless ) is that if all the patients' blood are not being diluted 400 times, EVERYONE WILL BE POSITIVE, including Dr Roberto Giraldo when he do the experiment. 

rac3r,

i understand fully about HIV testing, but how I wish you really read the link that I already attached there by Dr Rodney Richards. Then only you can understand, WHY i have a different view.

Why should the body produce the antibody when there is no HIV presence? correct, and more importantly, arent we being told that if our body produces antibody against a virus or disease, arent we immune to it ? But WHY, in HIV it is different ?

ok rac3r,

no worries, it's ok 

put it this way, im only providing another logical explanation side about this HIV=AIDS paradigm.  But, at the end of the day, you need to read the information(yes, dont even trust what I say, find out yourself) and think logical, NOT BASED ON FEAR. That is all I suggest...ask your doctors all those questions, see if the doctors know how to answer, because usually HIV doctors hate to answer "inconvenient questions".

by the way, that is from a person quotation, He is Dr Val Turner from the Perth Group. He has been explaning to the modern medical science in Australia, and ALL of the doctors CHOOSE TO IGNORE the perth group. They know what the Perth Group is saying, but they just IGNORE his explanation, which is very scientific and logical.

oh rac3r,

nvm, i guess it doesnt make any difference even before and after you read the websites I gave. But again, most people cant see it...FEAR already blinded majority of them, FEAR FROM DEATH  YOUR MIND ALREADY STUCK AND CLOSED...it's very easy, just look at cancer, doctors knew that chemotheraphy wont really help people, but they CHOOSE to sell this treatment to people, and chemotherapies is the ONLY choice of treatment. Same goes with their research, each and everytime, they will say we are more nearer to the cure, so ask yourself this, has any of those cancer research realized so far ?

Until today, modern medical science HAVE NOT safe any lives...In fact they play around with statistics for people like you to "believe". Of course, the people who are practising modern medical science, not all are bad and greedy, some do have good intentions, but their foundation are wrong even without them knowing it.

rac3r,

we have a few things here that get mix up because they compliment each other very well, that is religion and health. I'll explain...
yes STD does exists, there's no doubt about it. but, have you ever wonder, where does sexually transmitted disease comes from ? Usually, it has symptoms of it's own, so I bet you if that person is urinating very painful, do you think that person will sit at home and enjoy ? Therefore, im sure the person will go for treatment to ensure the pain is gone. This is what we call, you see the clinical symptoms and you treat the symptoms. However, in HIV, with the ASSUMPTION that it is sexually transmitted, and better still, in any religion, it is a wrong thing to do casual sex. With both of these dogmas, everyone buys in to believe that HIV TEST is the best way to determine your health if you are "infected". So, you dont have any clinical symptoms, but BECAUSE OF FEAR, you submit to HIV Test out of feeling politically correct. However, once positive, suddenly you are told you will live probably about 10 years max. While you are being given this diagnosis, you can still feel perfectly good. But, the doctors will ask you to test for viral load and cd4 counts ( which has nothing to do with disease progression ) and once it is less than 200, you will be asked to take AIDS DRUGS, even though, at this point of time, you have NO SYMPTOMS. These has violated the normal practise of medicine.

By the way, from the way you phrase your sentence, im sorry to say that YOU LIVE IN FEAR rather than COMMON SENSE...which a lot of people are im sure. Do you know how confidently the doctors propose to their patients to use Vioxx ? Via_gra ? Prozac ? only to realized the patients are killed by those drugs. oh well, I dont feel like explaining to you because BELIEVE ME, as long as you dont read all the information I gave you, you will use the modern medical science thinking to challenge me, but what's the point ? It's because there are people out there who suffer before and realized it, that's why they want to let the public know...

and rac3r, PLEASEEEEEEE.......there are a lot of HIV+ out there currently who are living almost 20 years drugs free(it's still relatively new because "HIV" is just 27 years old) because something that their body dont agree with what the doctor is saying. HIV test is not only NOT 100% accurate, it is INVALID. Dont equate pregnant with HIV, please 

You should rather ask, WHAT REALLY MAKES HIM DONT BELIEVE THIS HIV TEST ? WHAT IS IT THAT HE READS ? Did I told you about the experiment that Dr Roberto Giraldo did ? All HIV test needs to be diluted 400 times before they are able to lessen the antibodies ? if it is not diluted 400 times, everyone is POSITIVE. Unfortunately, the pharmaceuticals have bought over the media, so making them even more invincible, so they can market their drugs. I dont expect you to even agree with me when you havent even read all the link I gave you...it's not a tom,d*** or harry website mind you.

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Added on June 22, 2009, 8:39 pmas expected, more and more people feels the need to do :

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/933423

Im definately not against a test that is really testing for a "virus" called as "HIV", seriously. But, if everyone decides to go for a test that actually dont test for HIV, there is no point. But again, whatever I said as you can see it is true,

1) the media will be actively advertising it
2) people themself dont expect the media to be wrong
3) hiv is "nothing to be scared of"

How I wish the people who are tested "positive" do happen to read this websites...because doesnt mean getting tested negative makes everything right about HIV=AIDS.

AIDS denialism refers to the views of a loosely connected group of individuals and organizations who deny that the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) is the cause of acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS).[1] HIV/AIDS denialists prefer the terms "rethinker" or "dissident". Some denialist groups reject the existence of HIV, while others accept that HIV exists but argue that it is a harmless passenger virus and not the cause of AIDS.

The causative role of HIV in the development of AIDS has been established by multiple lines of evidence as a subject of scientific consensus.[2][3] Denialist arguments are considered to be the result of cherry-picking and misrepresentation of predominantly outdated scientific data,[4] with the potential to endanger public health by dissuading people from using proven treatments.[5][6][7][3][8][9] With the rejection of these arguments by the scientific community, AIDS denialist material is currently spread largely through the Internet.[9][10] Public health researchers have investigated the human cost of AIDS denialism: independent estimates attribute 330,000 to 340,000 AIDS deaths, 171,000 HIV infections and 35,000 infant HIV infections to the South African government's former embrace of AIDS denialism.[11][12]

rac3r,

as I said, you can read and digest all the information that fast ? common sense would tell me actually, even if you do read all of them, I doubt you really understand them  ...i took 1 month to really digest all properly and really think is it what those scientists says are true ? Slowly, it started to make sense now. HIV=AIDS theory isnt strong, there are many people out there suing their doctors and hospitals...come on, please, dont be so ignorant.

what am i denying ?  Im telling you the evidence that HIV doesnt equate with AIDS, but in return you call me "denialists" and choose to push away the facts that i told you as a theory 

HIV=AIDS is a new religion now, especially to people like you who arent open minded. well, of course for those people out there who can see pass the dark, im sure their lives are happier and live more longer...

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  hey guys...cool it, cool it. It's good to have such debate i think, but i just want to comment 1 thing...rac3r, you are already very comfortable with the current paradigm, so it is very hard for you to accept what david has just said to you ( me too actually ), BUT the information and questions that David asked is very important, that from my understanding, I dont think it has ever been answered yet. It is still in grey area.

furthermore, yes, there are people who has misdiagnosed, was starting to take the drugs when suddenly they retest, suddenly came out negative. How would you feel ? If me, I would want to sue that doctor or hospital.

ADD ON : furthermore, I think david's intention is really sincere from the way he explain things. He dont force you, He just ask you to think critically.
( I think lah ) You know right, once you are diagnosed positive, the public will treat you with one kind. cool2.gif which i dont think is the
right way. icon_rolleyes.gif