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Financial Are property prices going to drop? V2, The heated debate continues

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post Mar 10 2011, 05:21 PM

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if burst, better burst fast and burst gaogao, price drop 80%.
if boom, better boom gaogao, price rocket high. only tycoon can buy.
really hate the situation now
(you can tell i am a desperate house buyer, no $$$, huahahaha)
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post Mar 16 2011, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 16 2011, 03:40 PM)
I see it differntly, one thing property better than cash is not so liquid, hand got cash will spend easily, imagine if gomen dun enforce EPF savings, how many do you think every workforce hv when come to retirement?
Secondly, if you really want to keep cash unless you hold Sing dollar, RM in long run mana boleh tambah nilai one? Young man must work, work harder, work harder harder, save money, study and gain investment knowledge then do investment, success then only entertainment..when I see those fb, to my surprise that many young people travel a lot, sharing theirs photos in fb, then they login to lowyat forum to blame no $$ and price too high.
I 1st travel overseas (company trip) at 30 yrs, 2nd overseas at 40 yrs, I know m not eligible to spend travelling, vacation cost too much to me cry.gif
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maybe u r still lucky can go vacation oversea at older age.
looking at the situation now economic is getting unpredictable and life is getting tougher,
how can gurantee the youngsters now that if dont enjoy now, garantee can go enjoy when they get older?
if dont enjoy now, then older still not afford to enjoy, then wasted the whole life. shocking.gif
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post Mar 16 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 16 2011, 05:09 PM)
Having cash doesn't mean stay in cash, it gives you chance for investment, that yield return.
Typically new generation mindset, enjoy now.

Guarantee what?
Parent born a child, and give guarantee to the child to enjoy life?  blink.gif
Life is a journey one explore through, life is for enjoyment only?
Want to enjoy, work for it. 

Economy is unpredictable, life is getting tougher?
Please compared with those after WWII, 70-80's, whereby people beg for job.

Life is getting tougher when you cannot have a job to feed.
Life is not getting tougher when one taking up car loan to buy 100K car, taking house loan to buy 250k house, buying IPhone with installment, clubbing every weekend.

No offence.  smile.gif
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No offence at all
I am not a youngster actually
Am doing part time jobs and saving as much as I can
I am like the other forumer that only order plain water with mix rice
Driving a proton
The furthest vacation is hong kong once
Saving $$$ for future and kid insurance and education fund

Just sometimes wonder
Is it really worth it my frugal life style
Hopefully when I get old I really can go enjoy a bit
But who knows what will happen in future?

So youngsters enjoying the moment life style is not something that we can say right or wrong
Just like grand grandfather told grandfather how tough his life was
Then grandfather told father how tough his life also
Then father tells his son now, his life was tough…

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post Mar 16 2011, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 16 2011, 05:43 PM)
Dun forget we are discussing whether property price will drop or not, we are trying to give our humble advices wat to do, are you a student still? why part time job? We shd work at least 2 jobs if money not enough, and not 1/2 job
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how i wish i am still a student
i have a full time job and also part time jobs
but most of the part time jobs $$$ go for babysitter and kids fund

thanks for your "humble" advice.
i know i shud be grateful taking advice from Semi-d sifu while i can only afford a terrace.
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post Mar 25 2011, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 25 2011, 03:03 PM)
whether prices is gonna come down or not, let's look at what's happening around us:
property that i could remember that was launched this year so far:
1. summer suites, sunrise
2. capers, ytl
3. KM1, berjaya
4. the Arc in cyberjaya, andaman
5. mirage by the lake, OSK
6. serin residency
7. fraser's suite
8. the place @ Cyberjaya
9. a bunch of projects on jalan puchong, okr
so far, not even a hint of it slowing down but instead, they are grabbing as if it's the last development on earth!
bubble or not, u decide lor.
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True.
"no matter tsunami, earthquake, 70% LTV, GE, war, crude oil price surge...
nothing will make property price down but up up up"
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post Mar 25 2011, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(wee1030 @ Mar 25 2011, 03:32 PM)
tomorrow property price will drop -- this is what i will say everyday!  ^^  ---- before sleep !!
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come on wee1030
u say like that a lot of ppl will say u r hoping our boleh nation economy to go to drain.
lets pray together for property up up up
at least 40% per year
we need the investors or flippers to contribute to the grow of our belove nation.
lets pray hard.

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post Mar 28 2011, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 28 2011, 11:36 AM)
even after watching it, some will say, "nah... we're special, we're different, we're safe".
if usa gomen can allow such things, any reason to think gomen here is more prudent?
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you tot those "invetsors / flippers" here do not know meh?
why do u think they keep trying to convince ppll say those who dare not purchase now are idiots?
they are creating a sentiment so that thier "investment" can sustain and can let go of their properties before it is too late.
they are smart. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 7 2011, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Veda @ Apr 7 2011, 02:04 PM)
in my shortlist again ...... since the last check 2 weeks ago, prices have gone up another RM10k-20k  .......
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wah 2 weeks up 20k
one year up 500k loh
what are you wating for?
fast fast grab laa
maybe borrow from loan shark also worth it
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post Apr 7 2011, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Veda @ Apr 7 2011, 03:01 PM)
I'm already vested there  brows.gif
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good job! rclxms.gif
i suggest you invest few more units there befoer it is too late icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 7 2011, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Veda @ Apr 7 2011, 03:14 PM)
If I could get a suitable unit at the right price, why not?  laugh.gif
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suitable unit might be a concern...
but since 20k for two weeks for sure
right price is not a concern at all laa
mesti up and menang
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post Apr 7 2011, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(soongkm @ Apr 7 2011, 04:00 PM)
wah lau, RM20k 2 weeks, average RM10k per week. one year got 52 weeks, so one year later untung RM520k, What are you waiting for??? Go for it!!!
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ya
if you are not buying
pls let me know where is the property
let me borrow kao kao and buy
u untung also
the price will be goreng even higher.
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post Apr 7 2011, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(soongkm @ Apr 7 2011, 04:52 PM)
Hahahah....ya lor, join us la.  Let's listen to all those property owners / speculators to try to have us believe, that it will go up and up and up....These property owners will like us to believe that it will go up and buy buy buy....

Dream on la, property speculators.  Your days are numbered, this will be know as start of the end...prices will adjust by end of this year.  People don't be fooled by these property owners, developers and real estate people!  Hold your money boys...look forward to "shopping" trip on property by end of this year and early next year....

From here, the only way for property prices is SOUTH!

Don't get me wrong, i am not a bargain hunter, i am a property owner, but i am just being honest.  Property prices will be adjusted this year!
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some sifus in this forum regards those ppl that not buying but renting their property as "suckers"...
to all "suckers", maybe u shud listen to those "sifus" and buy buy buy to get out of "suckerhood".

quote from one of the taiko property tycoon in LY forum:

"yes there r new grad coming out to work every year
otherwise wat is our local uni for? how abt those colleges with so many students enrollment?
I rent to those new grads, few years back was $1200, now $1700, iproperty says the fake asking rent is $2k
after 1 to 2 years, they leave & new suckers.. I mean new grads come again to rent (its really all abt location3)"

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post Apr 10 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Apr 9 2011, 05:37 PM)
Why?
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bascially although ppl here always say our country this no good, that also not good compared with other countries
but in their opinion, our property outlook is still the best
whatever happens to other countries will not happen here
the other countries shud learn from us
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post Apr 18 2011, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(godutch @ Apr 18 2011, 10:02 AM)
For those who kept saying that property prices in Malaysia will only go up up up up up and up.

I would appreciate it if you could share with us those who struggling to get a place for own stay:

1) how many properties have you bought over the past 6 months?? And where/ which location. Pls provide details on prices etc, since already done, nothing to lose for disclosing these info right?

2) how many you wanna buy in the next few months (You better be fast right? since prices will only be more and more expensive later on) and where or which location. How much willing to pay?

3) how many % of your resources have been invested in the property market. (better to put in alll your resources since the prices will only be Up Up Up and Up right???) How you managed to get the financing??? % of your monthly cash flows going into paying installment?

4) any other personal experience that you think is relevant and willing to share.

the above information will really help us to make better decisions. thanks in advance!!! Dont' talk only la, walk the talk and pls continue to buy buy buy and buy since you are so confident ~~ walking the talk is more convincing la .
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agree.
but these ppl will say dont want to disclose now as still aiming to buy and worry u grab the units before them. hehehe

and the fact is
i believe they also think the price is high
but they cannot say will drop maa
else their property price how to sustain?

dont get me wrong
i am also a owner of properties
of course i hope my investments are good ones
but just in my opinion the unscrupulous lending now is worrying


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post Apr 18 2011, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 18 2011, 01:11 PM)
As I recall, the US example was cited mainly as an example that property prices can fall, i.e. to argue against the myth that property prices can only ever go up. But most people understand that the US economy is decoupled enough from the Malaysian economy that even a recession in the US shouldn't affect Malaysia too much.

The situation now is different in the following ways:

1) When the subprime bubble burst, economic growth in China more than made up for the slack from the US. The crisis merely accelerated the switch of focus of the Malaysian economy from the US to China. When the China bubble finally bursts, it will come at a time when the US economy is still weak. This means there will be no one to make up the slack this time, no global provider of demand. The Malaysian economy is puny in comparison to the US and China. Since the Malaysian economy is strongly export-oriented, if both of these giants catch a cold at the same time, the Malaysian economy must surely get pneumonia.

2) Everyone knows that the property market in Malaysia is driven by the Chinese in the country. And one way or another the Chinese in turn are more economically dependent on China than the other races. There's also the psychological factor as I've mentioned. Most of the Chinese in Malaysia could care less about property price indices in the US. But when it comes to China, many Malaysian Chinese have lots of stories to tell about how much house prices in Shanghai have gone up in a year and so on. Heck, my wife's parents watch Chinese news channels and they have regular segments on property indices in all the main Chinese cities as part of the news reports. This gives the Chinese in Malaysia added confidence about how property is always a good buy.

3) By and large, Malaysia banks don't care what happens to US banks, so they were not contaminated by the falllout. But when the property bubble in China bursts, it will also affect Hong Kong, Malaysia and Singapore. Do Malaysian banks Do Malaysian banks have lots of dealings with Hong Kong, Singapore and China? I believe so. This could get very messy.
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very good comment.

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post Apr 21 2011, 01:41 PM

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this type of news worry me.
when ppl are more more optimistic
situation will turn bad
hope this is not happening too soon.
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post Apr 25 2011, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Apr 25 2011, 01:23 PM)
rental rates starts shooting through the roof.
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you are really funny.
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post May 6 2011, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ May 6 2011, 02:58 PM)
it is unaffordable now coz many speculators /investors /foreigners expect msia economy will transform to faster growth economy (after ETP/NEM ) , that is why masia prop suddenly increased after ETP , NEM annoucement. 


really?
i tot it is because of cheap loan.
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post May 26 2011, 05:28 PM

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oh shoot
if u know what i mean.
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post Jun 1 2011, 02:44 PM

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For those hoping property price up
They will just concentrate on whatever report / data / trend chart to support themselves
Same goes to those hoping property price to go down.
No right or wrong here
Just purely to make oneself feeling better.


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