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Financial Are property prices going to drop? V2, The heated debate continues

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soongkm
post Jun 15 2011, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(bluesfingers @ Jun 15 2011, 06:18 PM)
Just to share a real story of my friend who was working in Ireland 3-4years ago.
That time Ireland was booming like nobody business, everyone believes property price is only up up up and so does my dear friend. He ended up bought a townhouse approximately 300k Euro(~RM1.3m). Unfortunately, the market crashed less than a year later, he has been made redundant. His property worth only 2/3 of his purchased price and he was struggling for few months in Ireland to look for another job but end up in vain. And now he is working in middle east to serve his mortgage in Ireland.
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Ya, appreciate you sharing these stories. I am sick and tired of hearing only the good side of people working overseas and seldom i've heard the other side of the story. it's good to have 2 both sides of the story, not just one sided tale.
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post Jun 16 2011, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Jun 16 2011, 05:56 AM)
Didn't agreed!

Malaysian is selfish and not friendly, this is my exprience.

As for government sector, the service is really terrible especially the hospital service. The only government sector that is really efficient is Inland Revenue Board. biggrin.gif
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Hey, those migrated don't agree is because they try to convince themselves they made the right decision. Don't come back la, stay in the place where you have migrated and you still be a migrant... forever. You still go to malaysian church or asian churh what even thoug you are in overseas. can assimilate into the mainstream society meh, not really la...naive people...
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post Jun 16 2011, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(GangHo @ Jun 16 2011, 02:03 PM)
Hello friend, give yourself and everybody a break and don't be so provocative. Everybody deserves to voice their opinion and nobody says that you are wrong when they defend their own. It's not wrong to go to Malaysian church or Asian church when they are in oversea because things will take time to change. Malaysia is multi racial country and all the races comes from different parts of the world previously and what is your opinion regarding Malaysian status now? Did all the races blend all? We got to be open minded and instil positive thoughts. A lot of time when the world changes, some would still insist on getting on with their own lifestyle of not having liquor, smoking,dancing, partying & etc. Does it mean they won't be able to assimilate well into the 21st century? Obviously no. Peace brother.  smile.gif
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The point i am trying to make is that some of the people who migrated tend to have alot more tolerant level when the country they migrated to has negative impact on them. especially in orang putih country. For example, when they go to the immigration dept in australia or banks in australia, even though those people working there (usually white people) are slow in attending to them, they (the migrants) dare not make a fuss about it (i witness this with my own eyes). But when the malays are slow in the govt dept in malaysia or the malay staffs are slow in the banks in malaysia, we tend to be very aggressive towards them, some even scolded them (again witness with my own eyes).

What i don't agree is alot of this migrants when they go to western country, they tend to suck up to the white people, eventhough the things they do may be as bad, if not worse than the malays back here in malaysia.

For example, when going to interview in the govt dept here in australia, asians migrants generally can't get the job, but instead they don't admit to the fact that racism is happening, they tend to say well maybe they require different skills set and etc. But in malaysia, when govt dept don't hire non-malays, we will say is racism. I'm not saying racism in malaysia don't exist, of course it does. but it also exist in the western society also, but these migrants is like not willing to accept the fact that it exist.

I get the feeling like they think white people is more a superior race, so is ok to suck up to them. And even rejected by them, the migrants tend to think that they are not good enough yet. But the way we, Chinese treat malay attitude is like they are less superior than us, so we cannot be "neutralise" by them, and if they reject us, is not our problem, must be their narrow mindedness.

Sometime we need examine out attitude first before we blame everything.

Yes, i do apologize for the provocative tone of my remarks, but actually it is to stimulate discussion like what we are having here.
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post Jun 27 2011, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(InvinKoh @ Jun 27 2011, 01:30 PM)
Who are you to decide if people can or cannot come back? And who are you to call people naive? Are you sure you are much more successful than majority of the people who have migrated overseas? And are you sure everybody that migrated overseas cannot assimilate into the mainstream society? Where is your facts and prove?

The fact that you heard more people telling good stories about them moving overseas means that in general, the pros of moving overseas are more than cons of moving overseas by statistic. If you can't start to listen to people and accept the fact then I don't see how u can share other people experience. If you just want to listen to one sided story, by all mean just go to the government or talent corp and they will tell you Malaysia is much better than any other country in this world.

In the end of the day, I feel we should start accepting facts and improve in things we are not doing good enough. Not keep blaming other people who share their own experiences and force people to say Malaysia is good even in their heart it is not. We are going no where if we continue to live in denial like this.
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Ya, you are a very smart boy.


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