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 ♠ Samsung Galaxy Ace ♠, Decent mid range phone at RM9xx

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mizzdelina
post Mar 6 2011, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Bugeca @ Mar 6 2011, 09:08 AM)
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Actually it is very hard to brick the phone. There is no term of "brick" in Samsung android phone to date as long as you have the Download Mode working unless you have faulty hardware  biggrin.gif
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Not sure bout that.. tongue.gif I guess you never bricked one before.. whistling.gif

Anyways the one i had after root it just wont start.. recovery or even download mode.. AND I CALLED THAT BRICKED! thumbup.gif

There is a trick during rooting SOC which involves enabling and disabling USD dev mode .. but after a while it make sense..
I also had to rem previous manufaturer detected USB driver and clean install Samsung USB driver before the success root.



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Bugeca
post Mar 6 2011, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(mizzdelina @ Mar 6 2011, 09:12 AM)
Not sure bout that.. tongue.gif I guess you never bricked one before..  whistling.gif

Anyways the one i had after root it just wont start.. recovery or even download mode.. AND I CALLED THAT BRICKED!  thumbup.gif
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That looked like something wrong with ur hardware... smile.gif

Yeap, I never brick SGA yet atm. But SGS, countless.... just need ODIN and you're back on your feet again rclxms.gif

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mizzdelina
post Mar 6 2011, 09:18 AM

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Bro.. how can you say there is something wrong with the hardware when everything was fine and working before the root attemp..

Anyways the shop sent back to HQ and the force flash it and is working fine now. But they gave me a new set..

During the 1st attempt of the root.. The SU did not successfully installed and messed with the Bootloader that looped the device. So it wont start..


Added on March 6, 2011, 9:26 am
QUOTE(Bugeca @ Mar 6 2011, 09:15 AM)
That looked like something wrong with ur hardware...  smile.gif

Yeap, I never brick SGA yet atm. But SGS, countless.... just need ODIN and you're back on your feet again  rclxms.gif
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Naah.. never used ODIN and terminal before.. but hate when that happens because i didnt have the original ROMS saved on my 7.
anyways working Samsung is rather weird and scary.. cos even the recovery looks so basic..

Here is some good joke about the terminologies: have a laugh ya its sunday!


Originally Posted by pinesal View Post
Hey, sorry to be anal about this but I just wanted to discuss out the definition of "bricked" because I see the term used incorrectly over and over and over.

What bricked really means is that your phone is a brick. So in other words:

Things a brick can't do:

display information
receive user input
make sounds

Things a brick can do:

Hold down paper
prop door open
be thown through a window


It means your phone has the same fuctionality as a brick. If you can get into the recovery mode you are not bricked.

I have never heard of ANYONE ever bricking an Android phone.

Have a nice day.




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post Mar 6 2011, 09:36 AM

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Odin is the rescuer in event of non working phone, or can use JIG like SGS (SGA not yet confirmed) to force into download mode.

Original Samsung firmware can be found in samfirmware website. Just need the right file for the odin... bootloader / phone / modem / CSC / PIT (OPS)


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post Mar 6 2011, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Bugeca @ Mar 6 2011, 09:36 AM)
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Odin is the rescuer in event of non working phone, or can use JIG like SGS (SGA not yet confirmed) to force into download mode.

Original Samsung firmware can be found in samfirmware website. Just need the right file for the odin... bootloader / phone / modem / CSC / PIT (OPS)
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Great tips.. yeah saw the roms at samfirmware need a guineapig to test it out.. so i can dump it in SD n update.zip .
To be honest i did try ODIN but the client just wont comm wih the ACE.. it just wont even goto to Download mode at all
Its totally Blank screen.

so are yours rooted and which kernel you using now.?
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post Mar 6 2011, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(mizzdelina @ Mar 6 2011, 09:42 AM)
Great tips.. yeah saw the roms at samfirmware need a guineapig to test it out.. so i can dump it in SD n update.zip .
To be honest i did try ODIN but the client just wont comm wih the ACE.. it just wont even goto to Download mode at all
Its totally Blank screen.

so are yours rooted and which kernel you using now.?
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Rooted but still with stock kernel. Somebody at XDA need to cook the kernel first then can use Clockwork recovery (zip flash) after that. smile.gif Yes the basic recovery is so simple sad.gif

There is another website, I forgot the URL which has all the Samsung firmware sources. Maybe you can cook some?

In order to use Odin you need to put your phone in download mode first. Then connect to PC and fire up Odin.

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Found the website but sadly no 5830 source http://opensource.samsung.com/

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post Mar 6 2011, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(0601430 @ Mar 5 2011, 11:19 PM)
haiz tht's why tomolo only me can buy this phone, suppose today... juz now 6pm me go buy, the taukeh got stock in his office, need to wait his office boy to bring the phone from office to the shop... around 6:40pm the office boy came, but he bring the wrong one, Samsung Galaxy S... since the office already closed liao, me have to wait till tomolo only can get the phone... ==l|
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Where did you buy the phone in kk? Been asking around couldn't find it







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post Mar 6 2011, 10:07 AM

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how do u guys access recovery?
i tried the ramdump mode posted few pages back, but the screen only shows RAMDUMP MODE
(ARM*something*)
and a samsung logo, nothing else happens (plus seems like no button works, i need to pull battery out)

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post Mar 6 2011, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Mar 6 2011, 10:07 AM)
how do u guys access recovery?
i tried the ramdump mode posted few pages back, but the screen only shows RAMDUMP MODE
(ARM*something*)
and a samsung logo, nothing else happens (plus seems like no button works, i need to pull battery out)
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Recovery.... Home button + Power. Press and hold until the word Samsung appear and release all.
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post Mar 6 2011, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Mar 6 2011, 10:07 AM)
how do u guys access recovery?
i tried the ramdump mode posted few pages back, but the screen only shows RAMDUMP MODE
(ARM*something*)
and a samsung logo, nothing else happens (plus seems like no button works, i need to pull battery out)
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Be very careful here.. I would suggest to dump your default rom and save on sd first ..i made the mistake not doing this before i rooted first time round..
Before i bricked my phone.. It went to the ARM9 ROM error.. and hanged there.. Force shutdown and rebooted it gets to the Yellow Download Mode. After another reboot.. nothing else works including force combination key to Recovery or Download Mode..

So back up , Back up your default ROM.. so its kinda chicken and egg situation here you need to Root to backed your rom.. and you need a backup of your default ROm just incase you messed up on the rooting process..

I would suggest downloading Ace's default ROM from the internet instead... thumbup.gif



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post Mar 6 2011, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Bugeca @ Mar 6 2011, 09:48 AM)
Rooted but still with stock kernel. Somebody at XDA need to cook the kernel first then can use Clockwork recovery (zip flash) after that.  smile.gif Yes the basic recovery is so simple  sad.gif 

There is another website, I forgot the URL which has all the Samsung firmware sources. Maybe you can cook some?

In order to use Odin you need to put your phone in download mode first. Then connect to PC and fire up Odin.

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Found the website but sadly no 5830 source http://opensource.samsung.com/
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Cooking Roms is not an issue have done that before.. but i need teh original image to based on my cooked ROMS..
Theres so much to do on the base level before we can dwell on the low level ROMs..

I wouldnt want to messed with that....my knowledge is limited, stillkinda waiting for XDA dev on this first blush.gif but i would just want a tweaked ROM to optimize CPU and also for battery usage..ROMS are very personal thing.. a suitable Cooked ROMS for you might not be suitable for another...

I can see if only someone could work on the ROMs asap we all can sleep well.. FOr now im removing teh junks pre installed with Touchwiz and Samsung's UI's for RAM improvements.. I can see improvements but need suitable on this ...

Anyone knows of any utility that can do this kinda like Battery and Performance test comparison??

Buying a Galaxy Ace is like buying an AMD processor and tweaking it and maybe overlcloking it to the max.. i like that thought.. thumbup.gif


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post Mar 6 2011, 10:32 AM

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how do i dump the default rom in samsung, i'm new to samsung.. i've only used clockworkmod recovery in my ex-htc wildfire, SGA is a completely different scene than the HTC Wildfire
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post Mar 6 2011, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Mar 6 2011, 10:32 AM)
how do i dump the default rom in samsung, i'm new to samsung.. i've only used clockworkmod recovery in my ex-htc wildfire, SGA is a completely different scene than the HTC Wildfire
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You cant..you need root access for that to run ROM Manager.. I would suggest finding an official Ace ROM from Samsung.. just incase.. whistling.gif

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post Mar 6 2011, 10:50 AM

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Can someone help TS to write down the detail step to root the phone in first page.
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post Mar 6 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Mar 6 2011, 10:32 AM)
how do i dump the default rom in samsung, i'm new to samsung.. i've only used clockworkmod recovery in my ex-htc wildfire, SGA is a completely different scene than the HTC Wildfire
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Samsung Firmwares is a bit regional I would say but you can flash any region firmware. It is mostly for customization. If HTC, RUU and WWE are the jargon but in Samsung it is a mouthful.

For example, Our firmware is S5830DXKA9 which means the phone code (S5830), the region (DX - Malaysia, Singapore etc. (SEA)), the firmware date KA(2011, January) and Version (9). Currently, the one available in the net is ZSKA9 which is for China and Hong Kong.

The only different is the locale and default language only.

Every firmware come with three or four part.
1. Bootloader -- this is optional and mostly not needed
2. PDA -- this is firmware & kernel (or you can flash kernel only with the whole firmware intact)
3. Phone / Modem -- the wireless and GSM driver
4. CSC -- country specific customization -- this is mostly telco part.
5. OPS / PIT -- this is to tell Odin on how the phone partition will be.

Again, you can mix all these or flash part of it. Our CSC code is XME, if different... only need to configure mobile APN after factory reset or when changing SIM. The phone won't do it automatically and telco apps are also handle by this part.

You can change CSC anytime from the phone but it requires a factory reset.

All these info is based on my experience with SGS, I think it will be same as SGA. And I'm still figuring out on how to dump our DXKA9 rom, need to find the correct partition.

Tips....

Samsung screen shot service without root. Press back button + home button. Not all screen can be captured.
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post Mar 6 2011, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Mela81 @ Mar 6 2011, 10:05 AM)
Where did you buy the phone in kk? Been asking around couldn't find it
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at CP, dunno wht's the name of the shop, but it's located behind the speedy shop (lower ground floor one), a small shop... price was RM969, they can give you RM950, full set with accessories 1 year warranty from SME but no sp and pouch...

at KK Plaza also got 1 shop selling it, but this one they didnt display it, need to ask the taukeh for order... and tht shop me also dunno wht's the name (seldom look at the shop's name whenever me go shopping ^^l|)... but from pasar besar, you go inside thru the big door, the shop is located at the left hand side, second phone shop... the price is RM940, murah RM10 only compare to CP one ;P...

yesterday me went from CP>KK Plaza>Wisma Merdeka, it's really hard to find this phone... x.xl|

havent buy it yet, later around 4pm me go buy ;D

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QUOTE(601430 @ Mar 6 2011, 02:04 PM)
at CP, dunno wht's the name of the shop, but it's located behind the speedy shop (lower ground floor one), a small shop... price was RM969, they can give you RM950, full set with accessories 1 year warranty from SME but no sp and pouch...

at KK Plaza also got 1 shop selling it, but this one they didnt display it, need to ask the taukeh for order... and tht shop me also dunno wht's the name (seldom look at the shop's name whenever me go shopping ^^l|)... but from pasar besar, you go inside thru the big door, the shop is located at the left hand side, second phone shop... the price is RM940, murah RM10 only compare to CP one ;P...

yesterday me went from CP>KK Plaza>Wisma Merdeka, it's really hard to find this phone... x.xl|

havent buy it yet, later around 4pm me go buy ;D
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why don't u go and ask at senheng? just abit expensive than others RM999 but with 3 years warranty.
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post Mar 6 2011, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Danson @ Mar 6 2011, 02:16 PM)
why don't u go and ask at senheng? just abit expensive than others RM999 but with 3 years warranty.
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lazy to walk around anymore x.xl|

furthermore Seng Heng is very far from my place huhu

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QUOTE(601430 @ Mar 6 2011, 02:27 PM)
lazy to walk around anymore x.xl|

furthermore Seng Heng is very far from my place huhu
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i see... but now if u go senheng also useless already because almost all the outlet are lack of stock now. this phone launch on 1st of march now only 6th of march already let people grab until finish already.
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battery life is still really an issue after a 100% charge played a simple game of reversi and did some icon arrangement it went down to 82% and its only like a half n hour only...
is this normal for android or samsung mainly ?

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