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 ♠ Samsung Galaxy Ace ♠, Decent mid range phone at RM9xx

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post Mar 5 2011, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(maxanderson2010 @ Mar 5 2011, 10:57 AM)
Hey guys, the Galaxy Ace has more than 278 MB of RAM.
That "confirmed" amount is clearly not true and is representative of a person that does not really know about tech.

It would be equal to saying that the Galaxy Tab has only 448 MB of RAM because it says so in the Task Manager.
The Tab has 512 MB of RAM but only 448 MB of RAM is shown in the same Task Manager that shows that the Ace has 278 MB.

What does that tell you? It means that that the Task Manager is showing only the amount that is available to the user.
The system apparently caches/reserves around 12% to 13% of the RAM.
Which means 512->448, 320->278, 256->226, etc...

So the Galaxy Ace has 320 MB of RAM vs the 512 MB of RAM on the Optimus One (still not as high but let's just state facts for facts and no they do not make 278 MB memory modules).

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I'm not sure on the amount of RAM but based on RAM module fabrication, it either 256 or 512. Galaxy S has 512 but only 329 available using stock Froyo kernel. Using custom kernel, you can increase it to 339, 341, 350 etc.

and Wildfire has only 313 available to user.
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post Mar 5 2011, 03:56 PM

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Just got mine today and traded in my Wildfire. Overall it is a good phone but Sammy still retain its RFS (Robust File System) for /cache, /data and /system which plague SGS model. SGA might be speedier if the fs change. Will wait for XDA to crack its kernel. Since the Froyo is 2.2.1, it should not bring significant lag like SGS.

Anyway, here are few dialer code share between these phone...

*#3214789650# -- to check GPS
*#1234# -- Version checker
*#*#4636#*#* -- More phone information
*#0*# -- Factory Test Mode
*#301279# -- To change HSDPA/HSUPA settings

Edit---

Press Vol Up + Home Button + Power then release after phone boot up will put the phone in RAMDUMP mode... not sure what is this. SGS will show recovery menu.

Press Vol Down + Home Button + Power then release... will put the phone in downloading mode.... hooray..... Custom ROM flash mode. ODIN detected flawlessly...

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post Mar 5 2011, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Mar 5 2011, 04:19 PM)
just finish root my ACE...no kastam rom atm...now main2 only with my ace
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What app u using to root the ACE?
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post Mar 5 2011, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Mar 5 2011, 05:13 PM)
Superoneclick 1.7
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post Mar 5 2011, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Mar 5 2011, 05:27 PM)
how much did u traded in your wildfire?
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Not much coz the new price is around 850-950 nowadays so I managed to get for 400 bucks only.
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post Mar 5 2011, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Mar 5 2011, 05:46 PM)
wow rm400..thats very low..
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You can get higher if you sell it directly. I malas nak post at Garage so just trade in and I want to get rid it fast..... rclxms.gif
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post Mar 5 2011, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Mar 5 2011, 05:52 PM)
PC Expo. Btw, my one is kingston 8G.
Last time I look see look see the wildfire. Totally don't like the phone due to the screen resolution and I think it over price. I think this phone will drop more.
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Yeah... I was so tempted during those day to buy HTC but now looks like they are overprice. Wait till Wildfire S in the market, the first edition value sure plump to the earth. Better get it rid fast.
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post Mar 5 2011, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Miracles @ Mar 5 2011, 10:31 PM)
This phone camera got macro ? _>_<
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It can do macro shot.

QUOTE(Ayam @ Mar 5 2011, 10:33 PM)
can s sga support page with flassh??
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Nope, it does not support flash.
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post Mar 5 2011, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(0601430 @ Mar 5 2011, 10:39 PM)
newb's here... need some opinion from SGA users...

i just did a survey around my place k.k... only found 2 shops selling this phone (still too new i guess)... one of the shop selling this phone for RM940, complete set with accessories, 1 year warranty from samsung, 2gb memory card... is it cheap? tht's the standard package rite?

i also ask if i want 8gb memory card instead of 2gb, the taukeh said need to top up RM50, so RM990... dunno is it worth it or not...

bout the pouch and screen protector, they said 'this phone is still new and we dun have any pouch and screen protector for it yet'... how am i gonna prevent my phone and screen being scratch if i buy this phone now... huhu
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The retail price set by SME is 999, so 940 is about right.

Yes pouch and screen protector is hard to find (anybody an confirm on this) coz i did not get those also. Temporarily, I just use another samsung model soft pouch.

Added on March 5, 2011, 10:43 pm
QUOTE(hueyseng84 @ Mar 5 2011, 10:42 PM)
i am kinda noob to android...
doesn't support flash.. is it the limitation by the OS (android 2.2) or hardware limitation?
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Android 2.2 and above already support Flash but depends on the hardware also.

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QUOTE(0601430 @ Mar 5 2011, 10:49 PM)
huhu wonder wht screen protector they use coz i saw someone said the seller give them screen protector and pouch when they buy this phone

do iphone screen protector fit SGA?

planning to buy this phone tomolo ><l|
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Yeah.. forgot to inform that I used ip4 sp at the moment with some modification to fit the screen. smile.gif

Added on March 5, 2011, 10:54 pm
QUOTE(hueyseng84 @ Mar 5 2011, 10:51 PM)
so for SGA's case.. it is the hardware limitation?
will rooting solve the flash issue?

i dunno what i am asking... sorry for my noobness..  sweat.gif
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It's hardware limitation. Rooting won't solve it either, need to wait someone who can cook custom ROM for it if the CPU able to cope it.

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post Mar 5 2011, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(hueyseng84 @ Mar 5 2011, 11:01 PM)
thanks bugeca for the info...
meaning i can't use this phone to play fb games i guess.. or to watch youtube?
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There is Youtube application installed. And if you click any video in the browser, this app will play for it.
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post Mar 6 2011, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Mar 6 2011, 12:04 AM)
Added on March 5, 2011, 8:21 pm
would it void the waranty? which webside do u go to for refering?

dont worry... SuperOneClick got restore function...

here got discussion about ACE SOS SotonG
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A good one. Waiting for the official thread on the XDA. The recovery button combo also different. No wonder....
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post Mar 6 2011, 09:08 AM

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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Actually it is very hard to brick the phone. There is no term of "brick" in Samsung android phone to date as long as you have the Download Mode working unless you have faulty hardware biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mizzdelina @ Mar 6 2011, 09:12 AM)
Not sure bout that.. tongue.gif I guess you never bricked one before..  whistling.gif

Anyways the one i had after root it just wont start.. recovery or even download mode.. AND I CALLED THAT BRICKED!  thumbup.gif
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That looked like something wrong with ur hardware... smile.gif

Yeap, I never brick SGA yet atm. But SGS, countless.... just need ODIN and you're back on your feet again rclxms.gif

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post Mar 6 2011, 09:36 AM

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Odin is the rescuer in event of non working phone, or can use JIG like SGS (SGA not yet confirmed) to force into download mode.

Original Samsung firmware can be found in samfirmware website. Just need the right file for the odin... bootloader / phone / modem / CSC / PIT (OPS)
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post Mar 6 2011, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(mizzdelina @ Mar 6 2011, 09:42 AM)
Great tips.. yeah saw the roms at samfirmware need a guineapig to test it out.. so i can dump it in SD n update.zip .
To be honest i did try ODIN but the client just wont comm wih the ACE.. it just wont even goto to Download mode at all
Its totally Blank screen.

so are yours rooted and which kernel you using now.?
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Rooted but still with stock kernel. Somebody at XDA need to cook the kernel first then can use Clockwork recovery (zip flash) after that. smile.gif Yes the basic recovery is so simple sad.gif

There is another website, I forgot the URL which has all the Samsung firmware sources. Maybe you can cook some?

In order to use Odin you need to put your phone in download mode first. Then connect to PC and fire up Odin.

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Found the website but sadly no 5830 source http://opensource.samsung.com/

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post Mar 6 2011, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Mar 6 2011, 10:07 AM)
how do u guys access recovery?
i tried the ramdump mode posted few pages back, but the screen only shows RAMDUMP MODE
(ARM*something*)
and a samsung logo, nothing else happens (plus seems like no button works, i need to pull battery out)
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Recovery.... Home button + Power. Press and hold until the word Samsung appear and release all.
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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Mar 6 2011, 10:32 AM)
how do i dump the default rom in samsung, i'm new to samsung.. i've only used clockworkmod recovery in my ex-htc wildfire, SGA is a completely different scene than the HTC Wildfire
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Samsung Firmwares is a bit regional I would say but you can flash any region firmware. It is mostly for customization. If HTC, RUU and WWE are the jargon but in Samsung it is a mouthful.

For example, Our firmware is S5830DXKA9 which means the phone code (S5830), the region (DX - Malaysia, Singapore etc. (SEA)), the firmware date KA(2011, January) and Version (9). Currently, the one available in the net is ZSKA9 which is for China and Hong Kong.

The only different is the locale and default language only.

Every firmware come with three or four part.
1. Bootloader -- this is optional and mostly not needed
2. PDA -- this is firmware & kernel (or you can flash kernel only with the whole firmware intact)
3. Phone / Modem -- the wireless and GSM driver
4. CSC -- country specific customization -- this is mostly telco part.
5. OPS / PIT -- this is to tell Odin on how the phone partition will be.

Again, you can mix all these or flash part of it. Our CSC code is XME, if different... only need to configure mobile APN after factory reset or when changing SIM. The phone won't do it automatically and telco apps are also handle by this part.

You can change CSC anytime from the phone but it requires a factory reset.

All these info is based on my experience with SGS, I think it will be same as SGA. And I'm still figuring out on how to dump our DXKA9 rom, need to find the correct partition.

Tips....

Samsung screen shot service without root. Press back button + home button. Not all screen can be captured.
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QUOTE(Divine_angels @ Mar 6 2011, 04:18 PM)
Just wanna know, does SGA fully support Skype? Any SGA users can clarify on this? Does it work properly or are there any problems and issues?

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Yes supported but no video chat coz no secondary camera tongue.gif

But u need to root and use market access / enabler.
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QUOTE(Divine_angels @ Mar 6 2011, 04:52 PM)
Wooooot!  rclxm9.gif

But chat-wise and normal calls are all smooth and okay??

Arrh? So I cannot just download off the normal android market?
I'm new to all these android things and rooting seems so advanced to me  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(backislan @ Mar 6 2011, 05:30 PM)
going to get this phone nest week, b4 that just want to know, do we need to root this phone?
from my reading android must be rooted 1st to access market?
why is this...care to xplain?
my 1st android actually...thanx in advance
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You can access market without rooting but certain application need a rooted android and marker enabler (to emulate other region), If not you can't see the app, in this case is Skype for android coz it was meant for US only.

And you need this approach atm if you wanted to purchase anything from market.

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