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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 11:27 AM) The OT is the Hidden picture of what is to come in the NT. Has everything in the OT been Fulfilled?That means the NT is the way fulfilled. Jesus is the way, not the 10 commandments. |
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I looked quickly at your River of life snactuarysite
You have false prophets in yer midst QUOTE Release of Demonic spirits The enemy is pouring dark spirits of death, mammon, strife and sexual sins upon the earth. Year 2011 will see more death occur worldwide. Hunger will be No.2 reason, wiping another 1/6 of world population. http://www.rls.com.my/index.cfm?&menuid=118 When did we have death wiping out 1/6 of world population in 2011? |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 11:43 AM) 31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. 35Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 11:44 AM) i have not raed the whole thingy...-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Main » Prophetic Messages » Message for 2011 ShareThis Message for 2011 MESSAGE FOR THE NEW YEAR 2011 Scripture Reading: Luke 17:24-33 The message for this Watchnight Service is simple and straight forward. God is giving us clear choices. Time is short and God has no time to play around with words. There are three groups of people depicted here. How did they prepare when warning was sent to them that judgment was impending? The Crowd 1st group (v27-28) - They lived their selfish lives as if they never heard the warning. They continued in their business and made no preparation for the Day of Judgment. It is the same today. Warnings come not only from the Church but also from books and TV. The History Channel has run many, many warning stories. Even the secular world is doing their part to give warning! But what do the people do? They continue as before. Lot and Family 2nd Group (v29-32) - They were good people like many Christians. They believed God and did the best they could in the sinful environment around them. But when the warning came, what happened? Lot’s married daughters had lost their faith and followed their godless husbands into destruction. His wife was so enamoured with the things and wealth of the world in Sodom that she left reluctantly. Her heart was drawn back to the city of sin and she turned into a pillar of salt. Lot was so confused that he did not even know what to do. The angels had to forcefully drag him to safety. I believe many, many Christians fall into this category. Some would also have lost some of their children to the world. They themselves are saved only by the grace of God. Noah and his Family 3rd Group (v26) - This is what God is calling us to be. Noah and his family kept away from compromise. His sons married wives who were not from the contaminated human race. Noah obeyed God 100% even though he could not fully understand everything. He had never seen a ship; he had not experienced floods; he had no idea how to call in the animals or how to feed them; he even had no idea how to feed themselves!. All he did was trust God and obeyed. That saved him and his family. That is the same today for us. We have to decide today which group we want to belong to. Then TAKE ACTION! Now, the Word of the Lord for His people for the year ahead. YEAR 2011 TO THE CHURCHES HAVE REVERENCE for God. FEAR HIM. Do not treat His House like a market. Honour and worship HIM. Repent and turn back to YOUR FIRST LOVE. Release of Demonic spirits The enemy is pouring dark spirits of death, mammon, strife and sexual sins upon the earth. Year 2011 will see more death occur worldwide. Hunger will be No.2 reason, wiping another 1/6 of world population. YOUTH AND CHILDREN– the Target of the enemy 2011 – Enemy targets the YOUTH! Holy Spirit says, “Pray, pray for your children that they will not fall into worldly things. God will hold parents/guardians accountable for their children. The day of terror will come soon and all young people, listen to God’s warning - those who disobey His Word will suffer with the wicked and defiled. Year 2011 – God is reminding us that HE is a righteous JUDGE. Wake up and walk right for the night is soon coming, the Dark Days. “My people stay close to ME, that I may save you”, says the LORD. Listen, all youths and parents!! Be aware of the media! Music videos that are satanic must be avoided because they contain symbols of the dark kingdom. They are empowered with MIND CONTROL spirits that will take over the mind so that you can no longer hear the Word of God nor make moral distinction between right and wrong! Take heed! Let us pray against the powers of hypnosis or mind control through the modern influences such as the Internet, television and modern technologies used by the enemy (Read the RLS booklet on “The Illuminati Puppet, Lady Gaga and Mind Control Programming). Today, Satan is targeting children and youth. He does not want them to be free. The police have physical authority; but God has given us power in the spiritual realm. We must now get down on our knees and PRAY that God will be our banner of victory and security everywhere we go. GOD’S SPECIAL PRAYER CALL FOR CHILDREN in DANGER in 2011 1. Disabled children 2. Child laborers 3. Children from broken families 4. Refugee children 5. Street children 6. Children in prison 7. Latchkey children 8. Orphaned children 9. Child soldiers 10. Child prostitutes 11. Children on drugs 12. Aborted children 13. Children without education 14. Children suffering racial prejudice 15. Missionary children 16. Children in church 17. Child brides The Bible says in Psalms 127 that children are a gift from God. In Matthew, God’s kingdom is made of people like you and the children too. God can do excellent things through children. (Nov 2010) DREAM – Abortion of Babies I saw rows and rows of baby cots in heaven. Babies kept coming in boxes! A spirit of murder has been poured out by the enemy, resulting in many abortions and killing of babies. It will double next year (2011) and many youths will be used by the enemy to fall into this sin. As the babies cry, God’s Hand slowly moves away from the earth. Abortion and baby-gendered killing will increase. God will strike many lands for this great sin. (More than 50 million babies will die this way) Families under attack Divorce rates around the world among Christians will escalate. Get serious, guard your homes and families from demonic influence through mass media and entertainment. (Sept 2010) DREAM – Many “Christians” not saved I saw many Christians walking with chains tied to them. Chains of pride, arrogance, strife and the LORD says to them, “Go away, I do not know you, this celebration is not for you.” HE closes the door to them. The people kept on knocking but the door remained closed. Then swarms of black locusts came upon them and they disappeared! Pray that Christians will maintain God’s ‘Clean Water’. Do not dirty the water in His House. Ezekiel 34:17-22 The WORD of God is our sword. Many are without it and easily fall/defeated when attacked by the enemy. They retreat in fear and are easily destroyed by darkness. Ephesians 6:10-18 Choose Your MASTER! Do not please two masters. You will be destroyed in the end. Luke 16:13b Remember not to be lukewarm. Revelation 3:15-16 Do not delay. Time is running out. The horn is ready to sound the start of war. Travel on the narrow path so that you will be saved. Be prepared. Live a HOLY LIFE, for Christ is coming soon! Examine our hearts and seek the LORD with clean hands, pure hearts, humility and HE Will SAVE You! Psalm 15 America, Europe and Britain Satanism will increase in Europe, the United States and United Kingdom… and a ‘mighty” shaking will come upon these countries in 2011-2012. Ø The Islamic countries will see a rise in power. ØThe United States and United Kingdom will lose about 50% of their grip in power. (It was prophesied that US will become like a third world country) Israel and its neighbors God is worthy to be praised. For He is JEHOVAH-OLAM, God, the Everlasting One. “Draw nigh to God, and He will draw nigh to you”- James 4:8 God always responds to faithful and trusting prayer. Reminder: It is ONE MINUTE TO TWELVE! God reminds Israel to repent and turn back to the Lord their God, their only hope. God reveals a handshake of three hands last year. An alliance of Iran, Turkey and Syria will be moving towards a nuclear war with Israel. One will get through and start a chain of events. When this happens, God reveals that huge angels with flaming swords will be guarding the faithful ones. The time frame given will be less than two years. A special call to the Roman Catholic churches in Israel - to come to know the true Messiah so that they will not be taken over by the power of the anti-Christ in Jerusalem through mind control images and even videos. This will be happening within the coming 1-2 years. Pray against a new virus created to promote crisis or pandemic fears over the land. (Biological warfare?) “The armies of the devil are coming with much anger against those who worship Me and believe in Me”, says the Lord Almighty. A dark cloud, the work of the enemy, is gathering upon Israel. It is the time of Zechariah 12:1-3, when Jerusalem becomes a heavy stone for all who try to divide Jerusalem and Israel for the jealousy of God will rise against the nations. There is judgment among the nations. The Holy Spirit keeps reminding all how URGENT the time is. God has already withdrawn His Hand of Protection bit by bit from those people who reject Him. The nations that reject His Mercy, Grace and Salvation will face His Judgment. The man who kisses the feet of foreign gods will move far from God’s grace. This includes so-called Christian nations and churches who practice syncretism. BUT TO THE CHURCHES THAT PRAY EARNESTLY WITH PURE HEARTS, THEY WILL SOAR TO NEW AND HIGHER HEIGHTS WHERE MIRACLES WILL BREAK OUT! HALLELUJAH TO THE MOST HIGH GOD! May the Lord protect Israel and His children and may God have mercy for the rest of the world. SEEK THE LORD NOW! The time is very short for the armies of the devil are advancing. Pray earnestly and faithfully that the nuclear bomb will miss this land! Great pain and terror is coming upon this earth. “Awaken my people, and change your hearts today”, says the Lord our God. Cast away your religious and legalistic thinking and seek the TRUE Messiah, Israel. Weapon smugglers are using mountain passes. Pray that their plans will be hindered by the Lord God Almighty. Pray for Israel urgently as a great whirlwind is coming her way. They must put their trust and faith in the Lord our God. On Christ the Solid Rock I stand, for all other ground is sinking sand. Iran End of 2011 / mid 2012 – major earthquake hits Teheran to the south Iran. God will shake this country. Many underground churches will see greater harvest. Pray against oppression / torture. Japan Vision: A black hand with claws trying to catch the youth. Many youth do not know God. They worship ‘electronic gadgets’. Satanism, idolatry, suicide, homosexuals increasing. Pray →a killer earthquake will strike this land in 2011 (thousands will die). Prayer can move God’s Hand. Pray →Japanese churches will be bold to reach put and preach the Gospel. Malaysia In the Year 2011, pray and fast! God hears the prayers of His people in many churches and HE places an umbrella of protection over Malaysia. In less than 5 seasons, black leaves will fall. Let us pray for strong prayer covering that Malaysia will continue to prosper and be a hub for sending help to surrounding countries. Perlis Perlis is the smallest state in our country but the Lord shows that it is also where drugs, guns and pornographic materials are smuggled over the border. The criminals bribe their way to avoid arrest. Pray against corruption and that the Spirit of righteousness will prevail over this land. Penang Pray for Penang, a cloud of darkness is over this island because of Idolatry, witchcraft and homosexuals. These abominations are on the rise. A Tsunami will come crashing into the coastal side. (no time frame given) Malacca Pray for Malacca. Malacca is the historical jewel of our country. It is in Malacca where the Gospel of Jesus was first preached. Pray that churches will work together to preach the Gospel in this historical city. 2011 is significant as Malacca reaches its 500th year since the Gospel was preached. There will be revival and angelic presence. Revival begins in Malacca. Australia See Dr Owuor’s strong prophetic word of warning for Australia printed in the RLS 2010 November bulletin. Prophetic Vision and Warning from Pastor Joh Matutis, (Berlin, Germany) A Summary: A worldwide “MOBILIZATION” by the Lord heralded by a deep booming sound like the blast of a deep bass trumpet that vibrated the whole atmosphere. God said, “My child, fear not. That is my mobilization call, a signal from the other world. I am calling My people out from all peoples. I myself am shaking the earth and the sea. The sinners and godless will pass away for fear….of the things to come. Understand, my child, THAT ALL THESE HAVE BEEN INITIATED BY THE FINANCIAL CRISIS. That was just the beginning of ruin. The foundation of today’s society will be so shaken that the people will lose all that they have acquired and saved up till now. Every infrastructure and welfare will collapse with time. Life will be very difficult for many people. The general security will get out of control and there will be a proliferation of crime such that life on earth will be massively threatened. (Even the secular expert Porter Stansberry of Founder, Stansberry & Associates Investment Research warns of this in Nov 2010) But you, My child who fears My name will I save from ruin. I am holding My arm of protection over you.” This is the DAY OF MY MOBILIZATION. For you the “Sun of Salvation” arises … I gather My TRUE children and bring them together… Tell My children they are no longer to occupy themselves with perishable things, but rather, much more with immortal and eternal things. 1. They are to seek Me and study My Word. 2. They should forgive one another so long as there is still time and make peace with one another. 3. They should stop being envious of and pointing fingers at one another. 4. Everyone should do what he is supposed to do and able to do! 5. Free yourself of every unnecessary thing. 6. Stop fighting spasmodically/ intermittently for their “rights”. From now on I will ensure your rights and provide justice for you. Great changes are about to occur all over the world in every area of life. Adjust yourself therefore and BE PREPARED. I will bring My children into safety IN MY OWN WAY. You will see everything I will do in the world, which will experience all the plagues of Egypt before I withdraw My children and Myself, before Pharaoh releases you forever. My people, HOLD TOGETHER! STAY WITH ONE ANOTHER, ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER. Soon you will have made it. Spread this revelation I have given you….about My MOBILIZATION….to My children and encourage them to do likewise for I am at the Door. I am coming soon. AND TELL THEM, ESPECIALLY MY PEOPLE, THAT THEY SHOULD BE SERIOUS ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH ME (THEIR GOD) BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!” NOTE:. THE PROPHETIC WORD GIVEN IN 2009 AND 2010 STILL STANDS. THEY ARE FOR 5 YEARS – ie UP TO 2013. The prophetic word given today are elaboration or additions that the Lord wants His Church to specially pay heed and to speak out. In Conclusion We list out the things that Dr. Owuor said the Church in Australia must repent of. They are relevant to all churches especially to the developed and developing nations. Repent and change our ways! Repent from: 1. All false prophesies, messages designed to make people feel good rather than deal with their sin. 2. All types of sexual sins, including pornography, lust and SEXUALISED DRESSING. 3. Abuse of God’s grace, the complacency and compromise with sin. 4. The failure of leaders to rebuke sin. 5. Preaching the prosperity gospel that focuses on an out of balance priority on money and riches now. 6. Accepting post-modernism, not believing ALL the scriptures are for today. 7. Building the empires of men in the church instead of building the Kingdom of God (building own kingdom, self glory, seeking position, praise, recognition in the church). 8. Preaching focused on improving one’s lifestyle now than on preparing the Bride (Christians) to be without spot, blemish or wrinkle for Christ’s soon coming 9. Not teaching the centrality of God’s holiness, for without holiness no one can see God. 10. Not mobilizing God’s people in repentance. May the Lord help us to do what is necessary, like Noah, to prepare for these traumatic end-times. May we avoid being like Lot who was saved only by the skin of his teeth! BUT MOST OF ALL, WE MUST URGENTLY WARN THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD, OUR LOVED ONES AND FRIENDS TO RUN INTO THE ARK, JESUS CHRIST IN ORDER TO BE SAVED. Sound the alarm, call the people for we are the watchmen on the wall. Serving Together in Christ, Ps Khim Ang Compiled from: RLS Intercessors Closet Prophetic Intercessors Dr. Owuor’s prophetic Word to Australia Ps Joh Matutis http://www.rls.com.my/index.cfm?&menuid=118 |
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 15 2012, 11:50 AM) Indeed ... this was fulfilled in the Lord as the law of the Spirit of life in us. i agree...the 10 commandments are a reflection of God's character summarised inIn principle, the law is the regulating of the being of God’s people by God Himself, or rather, by what God is. We as the people of God must be regulated by what God is. We must live, move, and have our being according to what He is and corresponding to what He is. If God were a God of hatred and murder, we would have to live in the way of hatred and murder people day by day. In this way our moving and acting would be corresponding to God. But, as we know, our God is a God not of hatred but of love. Therefore, we must live according to His love, being regulated by what He is. There are two ways to have God as our law, our regulation. One way is to paint a picture of God, that is, to write down a description of what He is, and put it before us. Then we may read it and see what kind of God He is. This is the way of the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments are a description, a picture, of God. This outward way does not work well. To be regulated outwardly by a description of even a small person is not easy. We would have to walk as he walks, stand as he stands, and pronounce our words with his accent. This is not easy. The other way is that God Himself—the living law, not the written law; the real person, not the picture—comes into us. If a living person comes into us to be the law within us, there is no need of an outward description. This is the difference between the old law, the law of letters, and the new law, the law of life. The old law was a picture, a photograph, a description of God presented to us outwardly, according to which we should live, walk, and do things. This does not work. The new law, the law of life, is God Himself coming into us to be the law. He comes into us to be a person, so there is no need only to have His picture. The person Himself is within us, living and working in us as the living law. Marvelous, we have the anointing today, the Person of God in us Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 11:51 AM) Look at verse 34, Did i say depending on your performance? Your performances are dross before the Lord. The word no more over there, does it mean really no more? Or depends on your performance? If you still obey the Law of the 10 commandments, and you know you're not perfect, you stumble along the way, how does it reconcile to no more? Its all about Faith. However, this faith results in DOING His will. |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 11:58 AM) I'm not in the Gift of prophecy. Why do you take this so personal? i said there is a False prophet in yer church.But I suppose that hunger has to do with India. Whether it's accurate or not, I leave that to the public to decide. But still for you to start judging on Churches and even boldly critical as so far to call someone False Prophet is upon your own. I've told you a thousand times, Having a judgemental and Critical Heart is not a good Testimony. QUOTE Release of Demonic spirits The enemy is pouring dark spirits of death, mammon, strife and sexual sins upon the earth. Year 2011 will see more death occur worldwide. Hunger will be No.2 reason, wiping another 1/6 of world population. It says "world population", not India. Next we are called to judge prophecies... A false prophet Det18:20But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. Mat 7 15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 12:22 PM) You may judge the prophecy but I've never found anywhere in the Scripture that says you are to judge the person behind it with condemnation and go all out confronting in a judgemental method. i just gave you two verses of judging prophets and you said? Mat 7 15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. i guess the Lord was condemning when He calls them FALSE? |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 08:55 PM) Which verse in there asked you to judge? You get deceived because you dont obey His instructions to judge/discernDo you see the the word in verse 15 beware? Do you see the word in verse 20 know? What does it tell you? got the word there Judge or not? Please lah. YES only God is the one who Judges not you, never his Children because none of you qualified to judge.- Romans 12:19. Mat 7 15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. i guess the Lord was condemning when He calls them FALSE? If Jesus is not telling you to judge, how can you tell whether their fruits are good or evil? How then "by their fruits ye will know them"? God is the ultimate judge in as far as salvation is concerned. The NT as you like, is full of Paul's instructions to judge and dsiscern the wolves, false teachers and prophets. John 7:24 judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 09:25 PM) There is a difference between discerning and judging. Did i confront your prophet?It's alright for an inward discerning, in the sense that when you know something is not in line with scripture, you don't follow it. It fulfils Matthew 7:15. That's why it says beware in v15...so that you know in v20. That's it. It never say, go and judge your brother and confront him. Even If you want to confront a brother, do it with love, not with judgemental attitude. Because there's always the danger you'll just piss everyone off and that my friend is not a good testimony for Christ. Didn't Jesus not to Judge so that you'll not be judge in return for a simple reason, none of you are righteous neither sinless. You'll be a hypocrite to do so. i just call him a false prophet because his fruits were false 20But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. BTW Paul called some wayward people names....... Did Jesus indeed? Jesus was refering to HYPOCRITES as in the pharisees who were questioning Him. Lookie at the context. Because in the next breath He tells you judge the evil or good fruits of the prophets. It was an instruction and warning. If i have NO log of false prophecies, why does that disqualify me? |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 09:38 PM) Whether you confront by words or by deeds, it's still is of outward judgemental attitude. That's all I'm saying, and Thats nonsense.....first you said confront, and then not......what are you on?I know the passage, In the next breath, He tells you to discern. You can use the word judge but it's of inward discernment or inward judgement. That's all. BTW what do you mean you have no Log of false prophecy, I don't get you. What is judgmental attitude? When there is NO basis of that judgement. Thats why you are instructed to judge with a RIGHTEOUS judgment. John 7:24 judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. i have shiown yiou that that prophet in your church is false because that prophecy about 1/6 of the population of the world did not die in 2011. SO its a false prophecy. Do you agree? Is it FALSE? LoG? Go and read Mat 7 about the hypocritical pharisees and see Jesus was refering to them. Then tell me what the log is all about....... |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 09:48 PM) No it's not. On my................feeding timeSince when did I said it's okay for you are to confront? I just said it's biblical to have inward discernment towards the subject not the person. Since when you are righteous by your own standard so much so you qualify to judge others? Righteous judgement means using the Word to discern and make a judgement call. You are putting a lot of words into what was not written. Did you write this? QUOTE Even If you want to confront a brother, do it with love, The bible says otherwise......the person who spews false prophecy is called a FALSE prophet according to Jesus. Righteous by the blood of the Lamb, arent you? Added on October 15, 2012, 9:59 pmDoes your church discourage you from discerning by Judge Not teachings? Maybe thats why you have a false prophet in your midst This post has been edited by prophetjul: Oct 15 2012, 10:03 PM |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 10:14 PM) Yes confront with love not with Judgemental attitude. There's a difference. My mY i find your judgment of me very judgemental. Since you cannot see me, what makes it right for youYes, righteous by the Blood of the Lamb. It's given to you by Grace. Did you earn that grace? Definitely not. (Romans 3:24) So what makes you think it's gives you a right then? If you have any discernment at all, What Jesus is telling us is that Since We didn't earned it, likewise we act in humility and love towards other and not in judgemental attitude of thinking you're more righteous therefore you have no log and is able to judge others. THAT IS nonsense. Read the parable of the unmerciful servant in Matthew 18:21-35. Read the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collectors Luke 18:9-14. to call me judgemental? Did i think i am MORE righteous than any one? Are you more righteous than me since you are being judgemental now? Did the scriptures call to discern and make judgement call? You are out of context with thise two parables. They are about merrcy. Am i being merciless by making a discrenment instructed by Jesus? Question: Is a person who makes FALSE prophecy called a FALSE prophet? If not, what is he called? |
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Oct 15 2012, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Oct 15 2012, 10:16 PM) Be careful even with your own church leaders. Despite how clean a community can be, there will be fallen ones among your own. Amen.This is how the evil one works. He places seeds of evil into your community and churches to mislead and cause chaos as directed. This pattern also is true for political parties. I'm not trying to promote distrust here but this advice is real. You'll be able to discern a mole by observing his teachings and behaviour. A person who is obsessive with power, authority, titles, wealth and riches is most suspiscious. Do not deny the fact that even the most well versed in the Bible can also be one of them. Paul and Peter has written amny warnings to the church about these type of people. False prophets and apostles. 2 pet 2 1But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 4For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; |
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Oct 15 2012, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Oct 15 2012, 10:38 PM) Put it on layman terms. The lessons of the nation of Israel ARE lessons for the church today.Even among the angels there are fallen ones, the Jews there are fallen ones and even among the churches. Do not deny the fact that despite a person having to be as learned as to possess a PhD or Masters in Theology he could still be a mole among you. 1 John 2:15-17 (New King James Version) 15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world.[/b] IF Israel walking in the glory cloud and fire of the Lord can apostasie and commit adultery with the heathen nations, what more the church? |
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