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Investment THE ARC@CYBERJAYA [OWNERS' THREAD], Developer of Cova KD goes BIG

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kelvin_tan
post May 14 2011, 03:17 AM

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BLR 2.3% is competitive? =/

PBB offered me BLR -2.5% for 1st year and -2.4% for subsequent years for domain 3..

the way I look at this project is, you will have trouble SELLING IT when the time comes. Nobody wants to live in a place where it is purely students..

I'm a graduate from MMU and there dont seem to be a shortage in terms of places to stay. Heck, most population that studies in MMU are from average income families. They are not going to be able to pay crazy expensive rents and therefore resorted to staying 2-3 ppl per room while still paying RM200+ per person (this in cyberia smarthomes).

All in all, so many better places to live, why would they choose this place? it isnt the closest thing to MMU and yet rentals are so expensive.
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post May 14 2011, 01:27 PM

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Agree with Kelvin.
About the rate, as UOB is only end-financing for this project, of cos the rate will not be so great as no competitor.
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post May 14 2011, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(taufufa @ May 11 2011, 11:41 PM)
Im very sure the sales girl told me max 10% for 25yrs. Unless herself also not so sure and gave me the wrong info. That's why straight away i turned down and look for other places. Tomorrow i will call their office again to confirm about this.
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which sales girl? I talked to a sales guy called chris, and he told me that the rental rates (up to 10%) only meant for the first 8 years. after that, it will based on the market rate, subject for negotiation with the developers.

QUOTE(Edmund86 @ May 14 2011, 01:27 PM)
Agree with Kelvin.
About the rate, as UOB is only end-financing for this project, of cos the rate will not be so great as no competitor.
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Maybank is also one of the official end-financing, but only 2.1 rate. UOB highest is 2.4.
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post May 20 2011, 10:07 PM

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hi all ,

i kinda interested on this property the only part i cant understand is ... there is a contract term like 4 years ( can be continue in future ) .
Can i sell it after 4 years ? and how they evaluate the property price ?



thx in advance ..
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post May 21 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(K.E @ May 20 2011, 10:07 PM)
hi all ,

i kinda interested on this property the only part i cant understand is ... there is a contract term like 4 years ( can be continue in future ) .
Can i sell it after 4 years ? and how they evaluate the property price ?
thx in advance ..
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Of course the price still based on market price at that moment (depends on transaction on market).
You don't have to wait for 4 years to sell it as you could sell with tenancy agreement to other investors too.

Edmund86
post May 31 2011, 06:22 PM

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Attached option agreement for GRR. noted each increment in rental (even after 4 years capped at maximum 10%).
Replenishing cost will be 3 months of your rental for each renewal.
SPA draft attached too for your reference.


Attached File(s)
Attached File  Option_Agreement.pdf ( 126.91k ) Number of downloads: 679
Attached File  Schedule_H_THE_ARC__CYBERJ.PDF ( 180.23k ) Number of downloads: 576
sampool
post Jun 8 2011, 08:51 AM

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the condo i think mostly rent to foreigner/negros... that is the market for the developer as no many owner willing to rent to them... sorry to say that...

ur need to compete with 1 thousand of partner whose also invest into this prop... the stress will be foresee after project completed...

Something which is not control is consider risky, but the long holding power still needed for this piece of investment... if not y the developer dun want to sapu all for their own and rent to the students... to earn more... IF IT IS A BEST INVESTMENT!

In this case never trust sales agent... because they are busy of selling for profits... to ur own research.


my 2cents..

http://www.myrealestate.com.my/viewtopic.p...er=asc&start=25

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garagesell
post Jun 10 2011, 12:30 PM

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they are going to sarawak for the project.. looking for sarawakian to buy. seem quite attractive to them.. although sarawakian got huge fund.. hope they will not regret. my friend called me ask me to check and guys.. what is your advice?? not selling price going for 320K + 50K for furniture. total up is RM370K.. return 8%...
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QUOTE(garagesell @ Jun 10 2011, 12:30 PM)
they are going to sarawak for the project.. looking for sarawakian to buy. seem quite attractive to them.. although sarawakian got huge fund.. hope they will not regret. my friend called me ask me to check and guys.. what is your advice??  not selling price going for 320K + 50K for furniture. total up is RM370K..  return 8%...
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You can have good ROI but I don't see we can enjoy a good capital appreciation from this project. Frankly speaking, I don't really like to rent my unit to student due to many reason which I believe many bros here agree.
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post Jun 16 2011, 02:30 AM

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Saw a full page ad of this property in newspaper last page. They have launched block c. Price from 350k. 1000 units in total. Think it going to be oversupply in CBJ when it completed.
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post Jun 16 2011, 10:01 AM

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something good worth for investment does not need heavy advertisement.... that's what i believe...

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post Jun 24 2011, 05:56 PM

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To all investors, please think twice before putting your $$ in.. the property will not go any much higher as the aprtment is mean for students stays..And!!! the most important thing is.. the "developer", is the same group that develop Cova Suites, Cova Square and Cova Villa, just ask around or pay a visit to the this places and see what have the developer been deliver to the purchaser..
cova villa - 99% segi students, almost everynight there's trouble make by the students. the building is very bad maintain by devloper.
Cova Suites - only 1 full time management staff allocated by andaman, only allocated 5 security guards per shift to man the area. the size of the ramp to car park is extremely comfrotable for small and medium size cars to drive up.. SUV and larger car will have prblm. security card system (3 tiers security) since Jan 2010 until today yet to deliver.

all are empty promises!!!

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post Jun 24 2011, 09:15 PM

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how is the investment opportunity in cyberjaya?
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post Jun 24 2011, 11:49 PM

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I dun think it's a good investment.
Went to see the area, no good. Too many
empty rooms/ house to let. Based on mmu
student, not good enough. Also, many other projects there as well.
Might as well consider senza residence.
Good location, can target wider range of
buyers....or perhaps z residence....
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post Jun 27 2011, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(lee1014 @ Jun 27 2011, 10:01 PM)
On 26th June 2011 morning, I went to Andaman USJ office to attend The Arc@Cyberjaya event and bought a unit at Block D-19-01, Level 19. I make the payment in the same time by credit card with 5% of RM393k purchase price (12:52pm payment time) and the other 5% is rebate (for early bird) by the developer. The attend sale person is Dato Vicent Tiew and assign to her admin to make the process and payment.

At 17:57 time, when I was at home I received a call from Dato Vicent Tiew. Asking me whether interest to taking level 22 or 23 and the different is only 500 to 1k, then I answer no to him becaused I like the unit I bought and not thinking to change to other unit. Finally he told me that the unit I bought is double sale, then I said I need to discuss with my wife.

But when my wife asking him to make it same price if wanted to let level 22 or 23 to us and he said he will personally to withdrawal 1k to make us to move to level 22/23 from originally level 19. Then my wife did told him that we decided to take level 22 and asking him to revised the booking offer and mail to us (after conversation by phone, my wife sending our email address to him at 19:06pm).

At same date 19:54pm, we received a message from Dato Vicent Tiew as following "Sorting out final batching and compilation with all sales branches. Will revert tomorrow"

At 27th June 2011 afternoon time, We haven't received a single call from Dato Vicent Tiew. So my wife sms (15:22pm) to him asking our unit as he promised yesterday but he did reply as "Still sorting out" (15:24pm).
At 16:13pm, I received another sms from him and telling "I have block D 26-01 rm395k. Do u want it ?". From this sms, it make me so disappointed with their sincere.
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Dato Vicent Tiew wo.... Dato wo.... sweat.gif
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post Jun 28 2011, 12:55 AM

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Aikks, no good lo..but if u really want, then just get
on with it.
Personally I do not feel it's a good project
with so much empty house to rent in cyberjaya.
Plus so many developments of apartments.
But never know...a calculated risk
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post Jun 28 2011, 11:27 AM

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The place mean GRR... i think it target rent to negro... sorry to say that..

u think local student wanted to move in? u r not in control (student/maintenance fee/bank interest).. good luck!!!



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post Jun 28 2011, 11:32 AM

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From the day 1 i get this first hand info and i look at their GRR proposal and planning... and look on the location & surrouding area...decide to give a pass for this projects...

Good luck to the buyers and purchasers anyway....
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post Jun 28 2011, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Neoh1979 @ Jun 24 2011, 11:49 PM)
I dun think it's a good investment.
Went to see the area, no good. Too many
empty rooms/ house to let. Based on mmu
student, not good enough. Also, many other projects there as well.
Might as well consider senza residence.
Good location, can target wider range of
buyers....or perhaps z residence....
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ya, but Senza boleh dapat ke?? hmm.gif


Added on June 28, 2011, 11:58 am
QUOTE(covasuites @ Jun 24 2011, 05:56 PM)
To all investors, please think twice before putting your $$ in.. the property will not go any much higher as the aprtment is mean for students stays..And!!! the most important thing is.. the "developer", is the same group that develop Cova Suites, Cova Square and Cova Villa, just ask around or pay a visit to the this places and see what have the developer been deliver to the purchaser..
cova villa - 99% segi students, almost everynight there's trouble make by the students. the building is very bad maintain by devloper.
Cova Suites - only 1 full time management staff allocated by andaman, only allocated 5 security guards per shift to man the area. the size of the ramp to car park is extremely comfrotable for small and medium size cars to drive up.. SUV and larger car will have prblm. security card system (3 tiers security) since Jan 2010 until today yet to deliver.

all are empty promises!!!
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Hi covasuites, I own an unit in Cova Villa, can share a little bit the Cova Villa's maintenance? Thinking to sell it off

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hows the response for the final block?

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