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 ▐▐ ★HTC Desire Official Thread V9 ★▐▐, AOSP or Sense.That Is The Question...

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ShinnKQ
post Feb 27 2011, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(taurusium @ Feb 27 2011, 01:47 PM)
some one can help with my prob..??
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Got try reboot?


Added on February 27, 2011, 2:07 pmGingerbread's reception still poor?

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post Feb 27 2011, 02:45 PM

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Hi, I want to ask, what is the advantages of getting S-OFF?
For what I see, it's just that you can change the partition of the internal memory to get more use-able internal memory for apps when using a small custom ROM, like MIUI.
Anymore advantages more than that?

Perhaps this question can be added to the homepage as well, as I don't seem to find any info there.
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post Feb 27 2011, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Feb 27 2011, 02:45 PM)
Hi, I want to ask, what is the advantages of getting S-OFF?
For what I see, it's just that you can change the partition of the internal memory to get more use-able internal memory for apps when using a small custom ROM, like MIUI.
Anymore advantages more than that?

Perhaps this question can be added to the homepage as well, as I don't seem to find any info there.
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When you S-ON you fake flashing recovery..

S-OFF leh you can use fastboot to do it

Can also change splash image
and boot animation

Basically can flash .img I guess
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post Feb 27 2011, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Feb 27 2011, 02:45 PM)
Hi, I want to ask, what is the advantages of getting S-OFF?
For what I see, it's just that you can change the partition of the internal memory to get more use-able internal memory for apps when using a small custom ROM, like MIUI.
Anymore advantages more than that?

Perhaps this question can be added to the homepage as well, as I don't seem to find any info there.
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What you mean by small custom rom? Got small and big wan meh?

MIUI can be used without S-off.

After S-off, can use fastboot command to eg. change recovery/splash screen etc etc.
And its safer too.

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post Feb 27 2011, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(ShinnKQ @ Feb 27 2011, 03:01 PM)
When you S-ON you fake flashing recovery..

S-OFF leh you can use fastboot to do it

Can also change splash image
and boot animation

Basically can flash .img I guess
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Those are fancy stuff only, any practical features about it?
I don't think I would risk bricking my phone for the candies.
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post Feb 27 2011, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Feb 27 2011, 03:04 PM)
Those are fancy stuff only, any practical features about it?
I don't think I would risk bricking my phone for the candies.
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Dont worry. It's relatively safe. The same like rooting.
ShinnKQ
post Feb 27 2011, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Feb 27 2011, 03:04 PM)
Those are fancy stuff only, any practical features about it?
I don't think I would risk bricking my phone for the candies.
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You already risked your phone rooting for a ROM.

Changing Hboot is very useful for space.

Int mem >150mb, you don't need ext, saved space and time formatting uSD...


If Desire had >1.5GB rom, the whole point about rooting is also fancy stuff then?


Oh, and this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806321



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post Feb 27 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(ShinnKQ @ Feb 27 2011, 03:15 PM)
You already risked your phone rooting for a ROM.

Changing Hboot is very useful for space.

Int mem 300mb, you don't need ext, saved space and time formatting uSD...
If Desire had >1.5GB rom, the whole point about rooting is also fancy stuff then?
Oh, and this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806321
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So, resizing the internal memory is still the main advantage of getting S-OFF?
Well, I guess I still stick to S-ON. Checked out MIUI preview and doesn't like it too much.
Might stick to some 'bigger' ROM, and also A2SD+ (I am about to fill up my 512MB EXT3 partition, LOL..).
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Hey guy, helping my fren to ask, if wanna buy new desire, what is thw screen look like? Is tht no more amoled screen?
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post Feb 27 2011, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Tricky @ Feb 27 2011, 03:44 PM)
Hey guy, helping my fren to ask, if wanna buy new desire, what is thw screen look like? Is tht no more amoled screen?
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S-LCD. Amoled only from some older 2nd hand units.
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QUOTE(sil3ntHunt3r @ Feb 27 2011, 01:53 PM)
U on custom ROM or stock ROM?
Before this can install? What is the last thing you do @ install on your phone before u face this problem?
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i think i use stock rom
if not mistaken, i tried to update market..then market cannot login, had to uninstall the update..

QUOTE(ShinnKQ @ Feb 27 2011, 01:53 PM)
Got try reboot?
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already tried that..
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post Feb 27 2011, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(nick67 @ Feb 27 2011, 03:02 PM)
What you mean by small custom rom? Got small and big wan meh?

MIUI can be used without S-off.

After S-off, can use fastboot command to eg. change recovery/splash screen etc etc.
And its safer too.
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got 1, usually Sense ROM bigger. ASOP rom smaller after installation. you can check the /syatem size to compare each time you try different rom.

QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Feb 27 2011, 03:04 PM)
Those are fancy stuff only, any practical features about it?
I don't think I would risk bricking my phone for the candies.
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rooting, partition, flash any rom, flash recovery, etc.. anything wrong, no worries. as long you have pc and usb cable
but S-OFF is more advanced thing, is actually modified the HBOOT, something like board bios. if the moment S-OFF, ur pc hang or power off.
possible it gonna brick the phone. but if you follow the steps carefully, with latest version of s-off which are very stable. it's not scary at all.

so, understand first the advantage of s-off, are you really need it and understand? then go ahead. for me, I s-off so we can choose the recommended system partition or custom table we like. I have 303MB internal memory, happy with it.. compare to stock user, only have 147MB internal memory.
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QUOTE(djlah @ Feb 27 2011, 04:19 PM)
got 1, usually Sense ROM bigger. ASOP rom smaller after installation. you can check the /syatem size to compare each time you try different rom.
rooting, partition, flash any rom, flash recovery, etc.. anything wrong, no worries. as long you have pc and usb cable
but S-OFF is more advanced thing, is actually modified the HBOOT, something like board bios. if the moment S-OFF, ur pc hang or power off.
possible it gonna brick the phone. but if you follow the steps carefully, with latest version of s-off which are very stable. it's not scary at all.

so, understand first the advantage of s-off, are you really need it and understand? then go ahead. for me, I s-off so we can choose the recommended system partition or custom table we like. I have 303MB internal memory, happy with it.. compare to stock user, only have 147MB internal memory.
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But if u using Sense Base Rom, you are not able to use custom table, so S-off is not necessary if you are looking for bigger space here. Correct me if Im wrong.
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QUOTE(taurusium @ Feb 27 2011, 04:00 PM)
i think i use stock rom
if not mistaken, i tried to update market..then market cannot login, had to uninstall the update..


already tried that..
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have u tried clear data for market?

QUOTE(bryan_823 @ Feb 27 2011, 04:26 PM)
But if u using Sense Base Rom, you are not able to use custom table, so S-off is not necessary if you are looking for bigger space here. Correct me if Im wrong.
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yup..it is true..
if u use aosp rom, then can change hboot..
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true. so normally new user are encourage just stay with stock. most of user will start experience following in sequence.
ppl start hunting and question when starting complaining out of space, then this is the time you start root the phone, start thinking any custom sense rom and trying xda folk script like firerat a2sd, data2ext, data2whatever, etc... to explore more free space solution....

after boring with sense rom, start trying ASOP rom. when we using asop rom, then you will ask why there is pretty of unused free space which is unusable. then this is the time for s-off and cMTD... anything else? please share your experience icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 27 2011, 05:55 PM

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Any WiFi heavy users?

Can compare WiFi reception between Sense/DHD/MIUI/Ginger?

Wah ever since I posted an interest for sgs nowadays random ppl pm me for Desire sell Lol

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post Feb 27 2011, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(djlah @ Feb 27 2011, 04:19 PM)
got 1, usually Sense ROM bigger. ASOP rom smaller after installation. you can check the /syatem size to compare each time you try different rom.
rooting, partition, flash any rom, flash recovery, etc.. anything wrong, no worries. as long you have pc and usb cable
but S-OFF is more advanced thing, is actually modified the HBOOT, something like board bios. if the moment S-OFF, ur pc hang or power off.
possible it gonna brick the phone. but if you follow the steps carefully, with latest version of s-off which are very stable. it's not scary at all.

so, understand first the advantage of s-off, are you really need it and understand? then go ahead. for me, I s-off so we can choose the recommended system partition or custom table we like. I have 303MB internal memory, happy with it.. compare to stock user, only have 147MB internal memory.
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Say, now we jump to AOSP or Gingerbread ROM, which are generally smaller than Sense ROM, we can take advantages of their smaller size and get S-OFF to resize the internal memory. Then, when we want to get back to Sense ROM, we will have to adjust again? (I am thinking that it's a yes, but just need some confirmation.)
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post Feb 27 2011, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Feb 27 2011, 06:10 PM)
Say, now we jump to AOSP or Gingerbread ROM, which are generally smaller than Sense ROM, we can take advantages of their smaller size and get S-OFF to resize the internal memory. Then, when we want to get back to Sense ROM, we will have to adjust again? (I am thinking that it's a yes, but just need some confirmation.)
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Hehe look forward to this question rclxms.gif

just fyi, I went back to Sense recently with CM7 Hboot and it still loaded fine, don't ask me why LOL XD and it even show 300mb int mem LOL XD

but I reverted to stock rom to be safe.

Anyway I have app2sd so xD

Too much apps on the phone makes mine sluggish ):

And I only have 70 apps lol

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QUOTE(phgmail @ Feb 27 2011, 04:29 PM)
have u tried clear data for market?

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done that also..still the same
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post Feb 27 2011, 06:25 PM

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Bro, you rooted?

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