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English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, 27-02-11 | 11:55 | ARS v. BIR in 3D YO!

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post Feb 7 2011, 08:23 PM

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Just realised this is a new thread, good luck to you then liez!

As for Rosicky, he hasn't performed well anytime this year - misguided passes, unsure touches, mistimed tackles etc. Prolly more to do with rustiness than corruption.

The team has to shoulder the blame. Even with a bad decision by the ref, no team has any business losing a 4 goal lead. And even with a man down, Arsenal had a tried and tested defensive tactic - possession.

Instead, we squandered every bit of possession. We tried to break on the counter when everyone was sitting deep and had to run more to switch to attack and lost possession royally. When we did take our time the passes were certainly not up to standard. Even Arsene is not complaining much about other factors, but realised we were panicky.

The general consensus by pundits hit the spot, even if many times they;re wrong about Arsenal. When they say we have a brittle mentality, it's generally true. These lads are mostly 23 and below

Anyway, with van Persie pulling out of Nethelands with the flu, I don't mind if he gets rested for Wolves and let Bendtner or Chamakh in for a bit.

As for Diaby, I think he did well in the 1st half too. He was always there to provide muscle and a decent amount of technical ability. Against Everton, his introduction allowed us to bring the fight to them when previously Felainini and co. were kicking our midfield around the park. When Arsenal comes up against these bruisers we need to get physical and Diaby brings that with him, along with the higher than average technical ability most Arsenal players possess.

QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Feb 7 2011, 03:24 PM)
Arsenal Self-Destruct syndrome is still there. The team doesn't look like a champion at all.
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post Feb 7 2011, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Feb 7 2011, 08:13 PM)
Thanks for clearing the mess (which was brought up by me sweat.gif)
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nah just posting the update since I've been keeping tab about the issue the moment I heard bout it.

I myself actually believed something is going on since some well known journalist been discussing something about it. Wrong info I guess. tongue.gif
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post Feb 7 2011, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Feb 7 2011, 10:51 AM)
saw the link to 14 minutes highlight of our little Japanese debut with Feyenoord at AM, and sharing it here. considering it is his 1st competitive match in Europe and his main experiences prior to this is high school football, i am impressed


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Conclusions from a measly single match:

For an 18-year-old, his not physically smaller than many of his teammates and these are big Dutchies! Has pace and very vitally, confidence. Dares to make runs and one killer pass attempt.

On the other hand, bad decision-making (too predictable. After 2 minutes of the video you could guess what his next action is, even if you wish it wasn't). Bet the right-sided Vitesse players knew when to do what on him after that. It's the reason why he loses possession primarily on tackles and having his crosses closed out. Experience trumps his skill, I suppose.

But then again, like many other Arsenal youth players, oozes experience. I would say he won't look out of place in the Championship.

However, like many Arsenal youth, can just as easily fizzle out and bomb. Let's hope Arsene's view that he has stereotypical Japanese work ethics is true because if he avoids the trap of highly-paid youth players getting complacent, he could turn out as a good winger.
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looks like Fabregas won't be reporting for Spain squad too - stomach bugs sweat.gif

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07022011/63/...pain-squad.html


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on the other note just realised all goal in the NU vs ARS is scored into one side of the goal, 4 from each team. Weird coincidence tongue.gif

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post Feb 7 2011, 09:41 PM

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"If the Arsenal players don't like being tackled, they should go and play basketball or netball or one of the other games." bartone
kelam kabut haramjadah dia ni..well thugs a thug.dirty football. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 7 2011, 09:47 PM

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good to know that it's just a rumour.i can't accept our player accepting any bribe and sell our game.
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QUOTE(leymar7 @ Feb 7 2011, 09:41 PM)
"If the Arsenal players don't like being tackled, they should go and play basketball or netball or one of the other games." bartone
kelam kabut haramjadah dia ni..well thugs a thug.dirty football. biggrin.gif
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Ask Barton go play rugby WTF. Too bad this is epl. If it's the la liga or ucl, red carded long time ago
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No FA action over Wilshere tweets

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Arsenal midfielder Jack Wilshere will not face any disciplinary action from the Football Association over his Twitter comments criticising referee Phil Dowd after Saturday’s 4-4 draw at Newcastle.

Wilshere, who has joined up with the England squad ahead of the friendly in Denmark, used his Twitter feed to hit out at Dowd’s handling of the Barclays Premier League clash, where Arsenal had raced into a 4-0 lead before having Abou Diaby sent off which proved to be the catalyst for Newcastle’s amazing comeback.

However, while the FA did consider the matter, the governing body will not be taking things further.

Former Liverpool striker Ryan Babel was fined £10,000 (€12,000) by the FA last month when he posted a doctored photo of referee Howard Webb in a Manchester United shirt, following a 1-0 defeat for Kenny Dalglish's team at Old Trafford.

However, Wilshere has escaped any sanction.

Dowd sent off Diaby in the 48th minute after he reacted to a challenge by Joey Barton by shoving the Newcastle player to the ground.

Wilshere felt a later incident involving Kevin Nolan and Wojciech Szczesny, in the immediate aftermath of the first of Barton’s two penalties, was just as serious and should have seen the Newcastle midfielder receive the same punishment as Diaby.

“Inconsistent refereeing needs to stop. It’s killing the game. If Diaby goes, what’s the difference between that and Nolan on our keeper?” Wilshere had posted on Twitter, an entry which was subsequently deleted by the Arsenal midfielder.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/no-fa-act...l#ixzz1DHbognmD
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see? FA will do nothing to englishman except violent conduct. If sagna tweeted that,idk what he kena..
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The draw at Newcastle broke my heart so much I couldn't even watch the BPL weekly game review.... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

To think that we performed so badly after losing just a bit-part player was disheartening... it's more mental than physical... if we lost Fabregas or Van Persie to a red card than I can understand la.. but Diaby ? We couldn't get any passing going straightaway after that, our players just dribble the ball up then lose it... even Malaysian players can play better than that... okay the dubious penalty decision was rubbish, but why put ourselves under so much pressure that we had to concede a stupid penalty ? I thought we were masters at keeping the ball.. no sign of that in the second half....

Experience counts. Period.
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post Feb 7 2011, 11:31 PM

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Gunners withdrawn from internationals
Glad it happen. Now we can worry about NB52, TW14 and JW19
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QUOTE(IsoZ @ Feb 7 2011, 07:36 PM)
GMT+8 12/2 - 23:00  Arsenal vs Wolverhampton
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wolves spirit is high...we must not let our guard down...
forward we march on.......................... flex.gif

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QUOTE(leymar7 @ Feb 7 2011, 11:26 PM)
see? FA will do nothing to englishman except violent conduct. If sagna tweeted that,idk what he kena..
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Spot on, Barton and Nolan won't get any punishment because of their nationality too. lol.
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“Inconsistent refereeing needs to stop. It’s killing the game. If Diaby goes, what’s the difference between that and Nolan on our keeper?” Wilshere had posted on Twitter, an entry which was subsequently deleted by the Arsenal midfielder.



I think Wishere was smart (or lucky?) for making the statement sounded general and most importantly, no referee name mentioned. In fact, "Inconsistent refereeing needs to stop. It’s killing the game." - is something FA should agree at smile.gif
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post Feb 8 2011, 12:45 AM

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To be fair, Rio Ferdinand was once suspended for missing a routine drug test, so the FA can come down hard on Englishmen as well.

And Wilshere's tweet is a very mild and reasonable one, whereas Babel's was mindless conspiracy.

In any case, credit where credit's due, Barton's tackle on Diaby, while hard, was fair. And despite being a twat he did well to not retaliate against Diaby (where Nolan did).

We have to take it on the chin, admit that mistakes were made and take responsibility.

Hope that the lads come back strong.
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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Feb 7 2011, 11:31 PM)
Gunners withdrawn from internationals
Glad it happen. Now we can worry about NB52, TW14 and JW19
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nice one. For once im gonna agree with SAF. International friendlies in the midweek out of nowhere = nuisance
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post Feb 8 2011, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(minority @ Feb 8 2011, 12:45 AM)
In any case, credit where credit's due, Barton's tackle on Diaby, while hard, was fair. And despite being a twat he did well to not retaliate against Diaby (where Nolan did).

We have to take it on the chin, admit that mistakes were made and take responsibility.

Hope that the lads come back strong.
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then we just have agree to disagree. i think both of Joey Barton tackles (on Andy and Abou) were dangerous and warranted a booking on each occasion. and i stand by my opinion that Phil Dowd had a horrible game

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QUOTE(minority @ Feb 8 2011, 12:45 AM)
To be fair, Rio Ferdinand was once suspended for missing a routine drug test, so the FA can come down hard on Englishmen as well.

And Wilshere's tweet is a very mild and reasonable one, whereas Babel's was mindless conspiracy.

In any case, credit where credit's due, Barton's tackle on Diaby, while hard, was fair. And despite being a twat he did well to not retaliate against Diaby (where Nolan did).

We have to take it on the chin, admit that mistakes were made and take responsibility.

Hope that the lads come back strong.
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So if Diaby's leg had been broken into 29820482039840923 pieces but Barton got the to ball first. Will you still regard it as a fair challenge?

The mere fact that the tackle was dangerous regardless of whehter he got to the ball first warrants a red. Period.
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QUOTE(leymar7 @ Feb 7 2011, 09:41 PM)
"If the Arsenal players don't like being tackled, they should go and play basketball or netball or one of the other games." bartone
kelam kabut haramjadah dia ni..well thugs a thug.dirty football. biggrin.gif
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not dirty football, it's "typical english football". NU is a typical english team which thy proud of. arsenal is french. Barton did da bad tackle at right time n right angle. cant blame bloody reff bcos he wasnt in da right angle to witness da tackle, n he is just another english anyway. Let's hope our J.W will show some work rate to anchor n dictate our midfield well in next game. keep our free flowing football style going.... no point to play rugby/wrestling in football game. Chamakh should b fielded next with walcott on right wing n Bendt on left wing (he could only score wif right foot). gd luck to arsene wenger wif da bloody decision to keep his money instead of buying a CB/DM. we don even have any backup CB anymore. =(

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